U.S. $ 140 million investment in local startups by Kenyan government
Hi, Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed. As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Robert, Welcome back. Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school? Rgds On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
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$140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to me. Am I missing something? Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now 71: https://angel.co/locations Of those, only 3 are hiring: https://angel.co/kenya/jobs And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't changed ... As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local startups to get on there. -Adam -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Robert,
Welcome back.
Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
Rgds
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
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@Adam, Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me coming back to the list. Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw in their twenty cents? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to me. Am I missing something? Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now 71: https://angel.co/locations Of those, only 3 are hiring: https://angel.co/kenya/jobs And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't changed ... As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local startups to get on there. -Adam -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: Robert,
Welcome back.
Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
Rgds
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good. My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were calling. We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end. My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
@Adam,
Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me coming back to the list.
Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw in their twenty cents?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to me. Am I missing something?
Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now 71:
Of those, only 3 are hiring:
And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't changed ...
As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local startups to get on there.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Robert,
Welcome back.
Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
Rgds
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
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I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot. Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either to startups or elsewhere)? -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good.
My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were calling.
We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end.
My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
@Adam,
Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me coming back to the list.
Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw in their twenty cents?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to me. Am I missing something?
Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now 71:
Of those, only 3 are hiring:
And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't changed ...
As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local startups to get on there.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Robert,
Welcome back.
Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
Rgds
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
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Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they reincarnate every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from one ministry to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and morph into other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so called line mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's budget.... i am hoping you get teh picture... They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software development On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot.
Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either to startups or elsewhere)?
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good.
My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were calling.
We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end.
My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
@Adam,
Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me coming back to the list.
Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw in their twenty cents?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to me. Am I missing something?
Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now 71:
Of those, only 3 are hiring:
And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't changed ...
As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local startups to get on there.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Robert,
Welcome back.
Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
Rgds
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
[image: http://startupbrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAIROBI-infographic-1.jpg]
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Sounds like a great start for a piece of investigative reporting by an aspiring journalist looking to make a name for him or herself. -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they reincarnate every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from one ministry to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and morph into other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so called line mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's budget.... i am hoping you get teh picture...
They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software development
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot.
Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either to startups or elsewhere)?
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good.
My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were calling.
We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end.
My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
@Adam,
Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me coming back to the list.
Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw in their twenty cents?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to me. Am I missing something?
Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now 71:
Of those, only 3 are hiring:
And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't changed ...
As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local startups to get on there.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Robert,
Welcome back.
Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
Rgds
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
[image: http://startupbrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAIROBI-infographic-1.jpg]
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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HERE, THEY OFFER U CASH, YOU SAY NO, THEY DOBLE IT, OFFER IT TO UA BOSS AND U STILL DONT GET TO DO THE STORY.... On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Sounds like a great start for a piece of investigative reporting by an aspiring journalist looking to make a name for him or herself.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they reincarnate every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from one ministry to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and morph into other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so called line mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's budget.... i am hoping you get teh picture...
They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software development
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot.
Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either to startups or elsewhere)?
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good.
My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were calling.
We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end.
My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
@Adam,
Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me coming back to the list.
Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw in their twenty cents?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to me. Am I missing something?
Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now 71:
Of those, only 3 are hiring:
And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't changed ...
As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local startups to get on there.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>wrote:
Robert,
Welcome back.
Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
Rgds
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
[image: http://startupbrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAIROBI-infographic-1.jpg]
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Kenya is ripe for something like Huffington Post or Politico - an online only 'newspaper' that has a full newsgathering capacity with proper branding and a marketing budget. Such a site could definitely reach 10M monthly uniques (if it was properly funded) and generate probably $1MUSD/year in revenues in 2 years with a $300-500kUSD investment .... too bad the $140M is already gone :-/ -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
HERE, THEY OFFER U CASH, YOU SAY NO, THEY DOBLE IT, OFFER IT TO UA BOSS AND U STILL DONT GET TO DO THE STORY....
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Sounds like a great start for a piece of investigative reporting by an aspiring journalist looking to make a name for him or herself.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they reincarnate every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from one ministry to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and morph into other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so called line mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's budget.... i am hoping you get teh picture...
They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software development
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot.
Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either to startups or elsewhere)?
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good.
My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were calling.
We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end.
My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
@Adam,
Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me coming back to the list.
Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw in their twenty cents?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote: $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to me. Am I missing something?
Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now 71:
Of those, only 3 are hiring:
And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't changed ...
As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local startups to get on there.
-Adam
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>wrote:
Robert,
Welcome back.
Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school?
Rgds
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed.
As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on the economy.
Regards
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Adam, notice, the deathly 'silence' around this topic..... see no evil hear no evil.... On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Kenya is ripe for something like Huffington Post or Politico - an online only 'newspaper' that has a full newsgathering capacity with proper branding and a marketing budget.
Such a site could definitely reach 10M monthly uniques (if it was properly funded) and generate probably $1MUSD/year in revenues in 2 years with a $300-500kUSD investment .... too bad the $140M is already gone :-/
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
HERE, THEY OFFER U CASH, YOU SAY NO, THEY DOBLE IT, OFFER IT TO UA BOSS AND U STILL DONT GET TO DO THE STORY....
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Sounds like a great start for a piece of investigative reporting by an aspiring journalist looking to make a name for him or herself.
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they reincarnate every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from one ministry to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and morph into other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so called line mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's budget.... i am hoping you get teh picture...
They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software development
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot.
Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either to startups or elsewhere)?
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good.
My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were calling.
We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end.
My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
> @Adam, > > Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me > coming back to the list. > > Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw > in their twenty cents? > > Regards > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> > wrote: > $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible to > me. Am I missing something? > > Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now > 71: > > https://angel.co/locations > > Of those, only 3 are hiring: > > https://angel.co/kenya/jobs > > And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be > developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't > changed ... > > As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, > AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local > startups to get on there. > > -Adam > > -- > Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io > Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> > More Musings: varud.com > About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>wrote: > > Robert, > > Welcome back. > > Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in > funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a > different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school? > > Rgds > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > > wrote: > > Hi, > > Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing > spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed. > > As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with > me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it > would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on > the economy. > > Regards > > [image: > http://startupbrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAIROBI-infographic-1.jpg] > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy > and regulation. 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Peter, Waiting for someone to accuse you of "Negative Energy" for noting how we "Work Evil" in Kenya. Will note this again... Show us a government institution with working information systems (usually developed in phases over 18 to 36 months) and we will know a leadership team practicing more ethics than theft. We cannot expect public officials and firms which "survive or thrive" on opacity (kickbacks and looting) to model or deliver on transparency and accountability. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya On Jan 22, 2014 3:25 PM, "Peter Wakaba" <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
Adam, notice, the deathly 'silence' around this topic..... see no evil hear no evil....
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Kenya is ripe for something like Huffington Post or Politico - an online only 'newspaper' that has a full newsgathering capacity with proper branding and a marketing budget.
Such a site could definitely reach 10M monthly uniques (if it was properly funded) and generate probably $1MUSD/year in revenues in 2 years with a $300-500kUSD investment .... too bad the $140M is already gone :-/
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
HERE, THEY OFFER U CASH, YOU SAY NO, THEY DOBLE IT, OFFER IT TO UA BOSS AND U STILL DONT GET TO DO THE STORY....
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Sounds like a great start for a piece of investigative reporting by an aspiring journalist looking to make a name for him or herself.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they reincarnate every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from one ministry to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and morph into other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so called line mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's budget.... i am hoping you get teh picture...
They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software development
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot.
Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either to startups or elsewhere)?
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
> Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form the > ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to > start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of > someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry > had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good. > > My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 names, > either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were talking about > while several became downright menacing when we told them why we were > calling. > > We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end. > > My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash. > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > > wrote: > >> @Adam, >> >> Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me >> coming back to the list. >> >> Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to throw >> in their twenty cents? >> >> Regards >> >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> >> wrote: >> $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible >> to me. Am I missing something? >> >> Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now >> 71: >> >> https://angel.co/locations >> >> Of those, only 3 are hiring: >> >> https://angel.co/kenya/jobs >> >> And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be >> developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't >> changed ... >> >> As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, >> AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local >> startups to get on there. >> >> -Adam >> >> -- >> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io >> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> >> More Musings: varud.com >> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>wrote: >> >> Robert, >> >> Welcome back. >> >> Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in >> funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a >> different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school? >> >> Rgds >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe < >> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing >> spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed. >> >> As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above with >> me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as it >> would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on >> the economy. >> >> Regards >> >> [image: >> http://startupbrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAIROBI-infographic-1.jpg] >> >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >> and regulation. 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Peter We moved from Kusema ... to Kutenda ... All that matters is shipping ... On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:56 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Peter,
Waiting for someone to accuse you of "Negative Energy" for noting how we "Work Evil" in Kenya.
Will note this again... Show us a government institution with working information systems (usually developed in phases over 18 to 36 months) and we will know a leadership team practicing more ethics than theft.
We cannot expect public officials and firms which "survive or thrive" on opacity (kickbacks and looting) to model or deliver on transparency and accountability.
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya On Jan 22, 2014 3:25 PM, "Peter Wakaba" <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
Adam, notice, the deathly 'silence' around this topic..... see no evil hear no evil....
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Kenya is ripe for something like Huffington Post or Politico - an online only 'newspaper' that has a full newsgathering capacity with proper branding and a marketing budget.
Such a site could definitely reach 10M monthly uniques (if it was properly funded) and generate probably $1MUSD/year in revenues in 2 years with a $300-500kUSD investment .... too bad the $140M is already gone :-/
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
HERE, THEY OFFER U CASH, YOU SAY NO, THEY DOBLE IT, OFFER IT TO UA BOSS AND U STILL DONT GET TO DO THE STORY....
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Sounds like a great start for a piece of investigative reporting by an aspiring journalist looking to make a name for him or herself.
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com>wrote:
we have a multitude of 'funds'. Hard to track because they reincarnate every year, change with every government, rebrand, shift from one ministry to another... are positioned to do one thing at creation and morph into other things.... then disbursement is countrywide through, so called line mininstries, so each allocation goies into a certain ministry's budget.... i am hoping you get teh picture...
They fund everything from kiosks, to farmactivity to mobile software development
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
> I was only thinking that they had a very loose definition of > 'startup' and were including any investment in any technology in the > country for 2012 including new tire factories and whatnot. > > Was there actually a fund that a government body disbursed (either > to startups or elsewhere)? > > -- > Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io > Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> > More Musings: varud.com > About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Into the Ether. In 2010, I got list of three hundred names form >> the ministry of youth of pple who had allegedly benefitted from funding to >> start up or grow small businesses. I got the list with assistance of >> someone 'high up' after an interview where they indicated that the ministry >> had been very effective in disbursing funds and the uptake had been good. >> >> My producer had a rude shock when they called up the first 20 >> names, either numbers were dead, the people had no idea what we were >> talking about while several became downright menacing when we told them why >> we were calling. >> >> We were 'quietly' adviced to drop that project from our end. >> >> My guess is a good as yours about what happened to that cash. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, robert yawe < >> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> @Adam, >>> >>> Thanks for the link, it is participation like this that keeps me >>> coming back to the list. >>> >>> Now where exactly did the 12 billion go, is anyone willing to >>> throw in their twenty cents? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> >>> On Monday, 20 January 2014, 16:09, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> >>> wrote: >>> $140M USD invested in startups in 2012 seems a bit implausible >>> to me. Am I missing something? >>> >>> Also, that 54 startups listed in Angellist located in Kenya is now >>> 71: >>> >>> https://angel.co/locations >>> >>> Of those, only 3 are hiring: >>> >>> https://angel.co/kenya/jobs >>> >>> And of those 3, all have foreigners on the team and won't be >>> developing core product here in 2 years if the Kenyanization regime isn't >>> changed ... >>> >>> As an aside, if anybody is hiring at a tech/design startup, >>> AngelList is a great place to have a profile and I'd encourage more local >>> startups to get on there. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> -- >>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io >>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> >>> More Musings: varud.com >>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>wrote: >>> >>> Robert, >>> >>> Welcome back. >>> >>> Now to put this into perspective, Kenyan Startups received in >>> funding approx Ksh ***12, 000, 000, 000*** in 2012. Is there, maybe, a >>> different numberline that us old - hackers were not taught in school? >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, robert yawe < >>> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Hoping that you have all started the year well and in a changing >>> spirit, I had a tech free 3 weeks and feel very refreshed. >>> >>> As we started the year a friend shared the the statistic above >>> with me does anyone on this list know which startups received this money as >>> it would be good to see how it has helped them and the impact it has had on >>> the economy. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> [image: >>> http://startupbrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NAIROBI-infographic-1.jpg] >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Regards,* >>> >>> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi >>> Synod Building >>> T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + >>> 254 737 811 000 >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/adam%40varud.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/peterwakaba%40gmail.co... >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>> and regulation. 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Adam Nelson -
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Ngigi Waithaka -
Peter Wakaba -
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S.M. Muraya