Bw. PS, I have read through the ICT(Amdendment) Policy and got more lost than informed.  Probably because am not a "learned friend" but I found the document deliberately "legalize" and possibly repeatative (am avoiding to say cut and paste) of selected sections of the new constitution. But I could be wrong for my expecting to find a friendly and readable document like the ICT policy 2006 - BUT now with revisions incorporating both the new constitution and the new developments in the ICT Sector. This is what I would have imagined an Amended Policy to look like. But maybe that is seperate document that maybe coming later?  Eng Kariuki & Co. any clarifications on this would be much appreciated. walu. --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Amendment Policy To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 8:02 PM Thank you Dakitari for this. I had download it from the site you've provided and will add my input once I'm in the net able area. On 24/08/2011, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

Listers, We have amended the 2006 ICT Policy (see http://www.information.go.ke/) in line with the Constitution.  We have also included ICT emerging issues.  This is the first draft that we need your input before we can finalize it and debate it at a stakeholder conference.

Regards

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Dear Walu Thanks for this update. We welcome the idea of facilitating an online debate. We have just consulted with Alice and Barrack, and we will agree on the specific dates to do this. Right now we are summarizing all contributions on the Ndemo debate and should be posting the report in the next one or two days. There has also been a pending request to discuss a research on Aligning records management with ICT e-government and Freedom of Information in East Africa, conducted by International Records Management Trust (IRMT) and supported by IDRC. The plan is to start this debate on 12th September for ten days. We will then hopefully conduct the ICT policy debate and considering the IGF is also happening, we will request PS Ndemo to allow just a little time so that we can provide our position early October. I hope this is agreeable to listers. Thanks alot and have a great week. Rgds GG ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World! Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:16:24 -0700 From: jwalu@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Amendment Policy-upgraded copy CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Hey Listers, revisit http://www.information.go.ke/ the Draft ICT (Amendment) Policy has now been upgraded to our expected standards. Go through and feel free to email comments...though it maybe better of GG and Barack could structure an online discussion on the same to bring out more structured feedback. Hopefully to be followed by a face2face convention on the same like we had, back in 2006. walu. --- On Thu, 8/25/11, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Amendment Policy To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 7:27 PM Bw. PS, I have read through the ICT(Amdendment) Policy and got more lost than informed. Probably because am not a "learned friend" but I found the document deliberately "legalize" and possibly repeatative (am avoiding to say cut and paste) of selected sections of the new constitution. But I could be wrong for my expecting to find a friendly and readable document like the ICT policy 2006 - BUT now with revisions incorporating both the new constitution and the new developments in the ICT Sector. This is what I would have imagined an Amended Policy to look like. But maybe that is seperate document that maybe coming later? Eng Kariuki & Co. any clarifications on this would be much appreciated. walu. --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Amendment Policy To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 8:02 PM Thank you Dakitari for this. I had download it from the site you've provided and will add my input once I'm in the net able area. On 24/08/2011, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

Listers, We have amended the 2006 ICT Policy (see http://www.information.go.ke/) in line with the Constitution. We have also included ICT emerging issues. This is the first draft that we need your input before we can finalize it and debate it at a stakeholder conference.

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Let me know so that I decide whether to recommend "apigiwe" makofi or "apigwe" makofi.

@Kamotho only the draft-zero creators can advise on this - and they are fully represented on the list  ;-)  And thanx for the comments, but from GGs advice it maybe until October when we get to dissect this policy with the full attention it deserves...but that also gives us 1mth to study it meanwhile.. regards, walu. --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Kamotho Njenga <kamothonjenga@gmail.com> wrote: From: Kamotho Njenga <kamothonjenga@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Amendment Policy-upgraded copy To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 12:15 PM Walu, This version is a splendid improvement from the earlier one. Someone must have worked overdrive over the weekend to get it to this status. Or was somebody sitting on the dossier only to pull it out on a Monday morning? Let me know so that I decide whether to recommend "apigiwe" makofi or "apigwe" makofi. Overall, the document makes good for a zero draft. Apparently there are a few issues to do with the sequencing logic that we will need to straighten up so that the reader is not tossed back and forth when going through the policy document e.g E-Commerce & E-govt among other sections are scattered across. Also observable from a broad perspective is that the core/ foundational aspects of ICT are relegated to the latter chapters of the document; Chapter 8 and beyond. Personally, I am finding it easier to read the document from the rear. As you state it will be absolutely in order to have a structured form of discussion so that we can dissect and scrutinize the various clauses for posterity reasons.  Kamotho Njenga On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Hey Listers, revisit http://www.information.go.ke/ the Draft ICT (Amendment) Policy has now been upgraded to our expected standards.  Go through and feel free to email comments...though it maybe better of GG and Barack could structure an online discussion on the same to bring out more structured feedback. Hopefully to be followed by a face2face convention on the same like we had, back  in 2006. walu. --- On Thu, 8/25/11, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Amendment Policy To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 7:27 PM Bw. PS, I have read through the ICT(Amdendment) Policy and got more lost than informed.  Probably because am not a "learned friend" but I found the document deliberately "legalize" and possibly repeatative (am avoiding to say cut and paste) of selected sections of the new constitution. But I could be wrong for my expecting to find a friendly and readable document like the ICT policy 2006 - BUT now with revisions incorporating both the new constitution and the new developments in the ICT Sector. This is what I would have imagined an Amended Policy to look like. But maybe that is seperate document that maybe coming later?  Eng Kariuki & Co. any clarifications on this would be much appreciated. walu. --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Amendment Policy To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 8:02 PM Thank you Dakitari for this. I had download it from the site you've provided and will add my input once I'm in the net able area. On 24/08/2011, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

Listers, We have amended the 2006 ICT Policy (see http://www.information.go.ke/) in line with the Constitution.  We have also included ICT emerging issues.  This is the first draft that we need your input before we can finalize it and debate it at a stakeholder conference.

Regards

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