Re: [kictanet] Fraud at KENIC?
Dear Sidney, I have read your email. I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised. As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted. Thank you. Regards, Abdalla On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was
something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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When does this happen? On 24 Jan 2018 15:24, "Sidney Ochieng via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was
something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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-- Regards, Sidney
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Still nothing? -- Phares
On Jan 25, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Martin via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
When does this happen?
On 24 Jan 2018 15:24, "Sidney Ochieng via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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Just the other day, we received the attached communique from Kenic, and a follow up brief, though somewhat not fully satisfactory - upon further questions/scrutiny. What exactly is happening..? Harry On 25 Jan 2018 22:43, "Phares Kariuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Still nothing?
-- Phares
On Jan 25, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Martin via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
When does this happen?
On 24 Jan 2018 15:24, "Sidney Ochieng via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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-- Regards, Sidney
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Dear Listers, Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list. Thank you. Kind regards, Abdalla Omari. Chief Executive Officer
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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-- Regards, Sidney
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Dear Colleagues, Many thanks Abdalla for the detailed response to the issues raised. On a separate note i find it interesting that someone is circulating a document with personal data and using it as a dossier and we don't have a problem forwading the same even though it is full of allegations. I think this is very wrong and should be stopped. Whenever we have genuine concerns, we should be civil enough to respect personal data in cases where it is included in the dossiers, let us not forget that some of the data may belong to customers across the border. I am also hopeful that we will get a similar detailed response on the downtime affecting e-citizen. Best Regards On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Abdalla via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was
something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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Barrack, While I understand and appreciate your concerns that allegations had to be addressed and for me I find that asking questions through here often leads to prompt responses rather than reaching out to the organisations concerned. We discuss allegations on here all the time. As for the personal data, that might have been a misstep on my part but I think they were necessary to prove the overall point of the allegations, as Harry's question below proves. No one asked how I got hold of the document but I assure you that it had been circulating in various circles so it was already in the public domain. Perhaps the question should be why KENICs systems are so vulnerable to such leaks. On 26 January 2018 at 08:40, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Many thanks Abdalla for the detailed response to the issues raised. On a separate note i find it interesting that someone is circulating a document with personal data and using it as a dossier and we don't have a problem forwading the same even though it is full of allegations. I think this is very wrong and should be stopped. Whenever we have genuine concerns, we should be civil enough to respect personal data in cases where it is included in the dossiers, let us not forget that some of the data may belong to customers across the border.
I am also hopeful that we will get a similar detailed response on the downtime affecting e-citizen.
Best Regards
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Abdalla via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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Hi Sidney, Many thanks, i know your intention was good but i just wanted to highlight the need to safeguard personal data even as we dig deep to ascertain issues. I consider this a healthy debate and we are learning from each other. Unfortunately someone may misuse the data which was being used for a good purpose. Best Regards On 26 Jan 2018 09:39, "Sidney Ochieng" <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Barrack, While I understand and appreciate your concerns that allegations had to be addressed and for me I find that asking questions through here often leads to prompt responses rather than reaching out to the organisations concerned. We discuss allegations on here all the time.
As for the personal data, that might have been a misstep on my part but I think they were necessary to prove the overall point of the allegations, as Harry's question below proves. No one asked how I got hold of the document but I assure you that it had been circulating in various circles so it was already in the public domain. Perhaps the question should be why KENICs systems are so vulnerable to such leaks.
On 26 January 2018 at 08:40, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Many thanks Abdalla for the detailed response to the issues raised. On a separate note i find it interesting that someone is circulating a document with personal data and using it as a dossier and we don't have a problem forwading the same even though it is full of allegations. I think this is very wrong and should be stopped. Whenever we have genuine concerns, we should be civil enough to respect personal data in cases where it is included in the dossiers, let us not forget that some of the data may belong to customers across the border.
I am also hopeful that we will get a similar detailed response on the downtime affecting e-citizen.
Best Regards
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Abdalla via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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@Barrack, Are you contracted as an attorney for KeNIC? The tone of your response seems to castigate some listers whereas this is a forum where people are free to air their opinions freely, unless that changed without my knowledge. Secondly, I think you are wrong to come to the defense of KeNIC. They are capable of doing that themselves. On personal data being passed around, I think it's better to be open about what someone alleges. If anyone feels offended, they can seek legal redress. Just my rebuke of your stand :-) Now that that is off my chest, I think this statement by KeNIC has been concocted. It was done on 24th but could not be released until 26th. It comes out strongly in defense of their staff as not being capable of impropriety. That is subject to interrogation by listers who believe that there has been some impropriety in the process. I am still reading the statement, and need to read the previous one again, alongside the one that contains the allegations. I have seen this in the statement released today: "S*everal domains attracted higher amounts with NI.KE <http://NI.KE> attracting up to KES 1,000,0000,038.*" - I am wondering whether this is a typo or some misplaced comma or zero.... On 26 January 2018 at 08:40, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Many thanks Abdalla for the detailed response to the issues raised. On a separate note i find it interesting that someone is circulating a document with personal data and using it as a dossier and we don't have a problem forwading the same even though it is full of allegations. I think this is very wrong and should be stopped. Whenever we have genuine concerns, we should be civil enough to respect personal data in cases where it is included in the dossiers, let us not forget that some of the data may belong to customers across the border.
I am also hopeful that we will get a similar detailed response on the downtime affecting e-citizen.
Best Regards
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Abdalla via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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@ Wash, Let me declare that i am not holding brief for KeNIC even though my work involves promoting ccTLDs across the African continent at www.aftld.org. I wanted us to have a sober and informed conversation as is the case now, you may also notice that i requested that for a statement on the ecitizen downtime so that we dont cast aspersions where there are genuine challenges. What we are debating happens a lot beyond the borders hence my call for a sober and informed conversation on the same whilst protecting the privacy of innocent customers whose details are being thrown around. I hope that clarifies my stand. On 26 Jan 2018 15:25, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Barrack,
Are you contracted as an attorney for KeNIC? The tone of your response seems to castigate some listers whereas this is a forum where people are free to air their opinions freely, unless that changed without my knowledge. Secondly, I think you are wrong to come to the defense of KeNIC. They are capable of doing that themselves. On personal data being passed around, I think it's better to be open about what someone alleges. If anyone feels offended, they can seek legal redress.
Just my rebuke of your stand :-)
Now that that is off my chest, I think this statement by KeNIC has been concocted. It was done on 24th but could not be released until 26th. It comes out strongly in defense of their staff as not being capable of impropriety. That is subject to interrogation by listers who believe that there has been some impropriety in the process.
I am still reading the statement, and need to read the previous one again, alongside the one that contains the allegations.
I have seen this in the statement released today: "S*everal domains attracted higher amounts with NI.KE <http://NI.KE> attracting up to KES 1,000,0000,038.*" - I am wondering whether this is a typo or some misplaced comma or zero....
On 26 January 2018 at 08:40, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Many thanks Abdalla for the detailed response to the issues raised. On a separate note i find it interesting that someone is circulating a document with personal data and using it as a dossier and we don't have a problem forwading the same even though it is full of allegations. I think this is very wrong and should be stopped. Whenever we have genuine concerns, we should be civil enough to respect personal data in cases where it is included in the dossiers, let us not forget that some of the data may belong to customers across the border.
I am also hopeful that we will get a similar detailed response on the downtime affecting e-citizen.
Best Regards
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Abdalla via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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On another note. I hope Kenic are looking into the issue of this data leak. There is a growing concern of sensitive systems being abused from within. Log every user operation even if it is just a read-only activity. And lastly on a general point of advice - always back up the database before any major operation. And for data that is as significant as that which is held by Kenic - backup to even 10 copies and store some offline. Aside from offline backups, we have advanced system backup utilities such as VMWare's live replication and snapshots. With such you can roll back and be live in a matter of seconds. Regards, Kevin On 26 January 2018 at 16:28, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Wash,
Let me declare that i am not holding brief for KeNIC even though my work involves promoting ccTLDs across the African continent at www.aftld.org. I wanted us to have a sober and informed conversation as is the case now, you may also notice that i requested that for a statement on the ecitizen downtime so that we dont cast aspersions where there are genuine challenges. What we are debating happens a lot beyond the borders hence my call for a sober and informed conversation on the same whilst protecting the privacy of innocent customers whose details are being thrown around. I hope that clarifies my stand.
On 26 Jan 2018 15:25, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Barrack,
Are you contracted as an attorney for KeNIC? The tone of your response seems to castigate some listers whereas this is a forum where people are free to air their opinions freely, unless that changed without my knowledge. Secondly, I think you are wrong to come to the defense of KeNIC. They are capable of doing that themselves. On personal data being passed around, I think it's better to be open about what someone alleges. If anyone feels offended, they can seek legal redress.
Just my rebuke of your stand :-)
Now that that is off my chest, I think this statement by KeNIC has been concocted. It was done on 24th but could not be released until 26th. It comes out strongly in defense of their staff as not being capable of impropriety. That is subject to interrogation by listers who believe that there has been some impropriety in the process.
I am still reading the statement, and need to read the previous one again, alongside the one that contains the allegations.
I have seen this in the statement released today: "S*everal domains attracted higher amounts with NI.KE <http://NI.KE> attracting up to KES 1,000,0000,038.*" - I am wondering whether this is a typo or some misplaced comma or zero....
On 26 January 2018 at 08:40, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Many thanks Abdalla for the detailed response to the issues raised. On a separate note i find it interesting that someone is circulating a document with personal data and using it as a dossier and we don't have a problem forwading the same even though it is full of allegations. I think this is very wrong and should be stopped. Whenever we have genuine concerns, we should be civil enough to respect personal data in cases where it is included in the dossiers, let us not forget that some of the data may belong to customers across the border.
I am also hopeful that we will get a similar detailed response on the downtime affecting e-citizen.
Best Regards
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Abdalla via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
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@everyone, I have received the two domains I ended up "winning" in the auction - so from my point of view there has not been a problem. That said the process, details, and fine-print of the process could had been better from Kenic's side. I probably ended up spending around 20hours of work time to make sure I fully understood all the communications/processes so that everything was done correctly from my side. Kind regards Michael Pedersen
Hey Abdalla, Thanks for the attached response, have gone through it. Some queries still linger:- 1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed. 2. How foolproof, or what measures were taken to ward off rigging or 'defective' bids in the system. A cursory look at the list of bidders, if at all authentic seems to indicate most of those email addresses are foreign, and very few of them on the local . KE domain space. How ironical..? 3. It almost sounds incredulous that one bid reached KES 1,000,0000,038. Would love to look forward to when that gets paid up, please keep us posted.. Harry On 26 Jan 2018 08:23, "Abdalla via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was
something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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Harry, 1. Why would the second level domain system, *supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere)*, cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed. *I think the system KeNIC is referring to here is the auction system - not the registry itself.* Thereafter, when auction closed; my understanding from the two communications is that the bulk deletion from the registry of the SLDs that were reserved but not paid for caused erroneous deletion of nameservers from the registry database. Kennedy. On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Harry Delano via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hey Abdalla,
Thanks for the attached response, have gone through it. Some queries still linger:-
1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed.
2. How foolproof, or what measures were taken to ward off rigging or 'defective' bids in the system. A cursory look at the list of bidders, if at all authentic seems to indicate most of those email addresses are foreign, and very few of them on the local . KE domain space. How ironical..?
3. It almost sounds incredulous that one bid reached KES 1,000,0000,038. Would love to look forward to when that gets paid up, please keep us posted..
Harry
On 26 Jan 2018 08:23, "Abdalla via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
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Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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@Kennedy You got that right. The auction is not connected to the main core registry system. In the scheme of things we ought to commend KeNIC and the CA (Communication Authority) for responding promptly to issues of public interest. This can only improve their engagement and performance in relation to the public. I wish I could say the same regarding the team behind the eCiziten Portal. @Sidney you raised a pertinent issue on possible fraud and leakage. Mine is to ask for clarification from KeNIC on this issue. 1. Was anyone who bid and won a domain denied it and given to someone else? 2. Since we know no system in the world is 100% full proof it would be good to get an assurance from KeNIC on what happens next. @Barrack, I applaud your bringing to attention the privacy angle. There’s zero excuse for someone to peddle a document with personal information the way this document was circulated. Respect of personal privacy is an important matter in today’s world. Even as we wait for a bill to address this I urge us to play a personal role in this and exercise self regulation. Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 26 Jan 2018, at 10:15 AM, Kennedy Aseda via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Harry,
1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed. I think the system KeNIC is referring to here is the auction system - not the registry itself.
Thereafter, when auction closed; my understanding from the two communications is that the bulk deletion from the registry of the SLDs that were reserved but not paid for caused erroneous deletion of nameservers from the registry database.
Kennedy.
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Harry Delano via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hey Abdalla,
Thanks for the attached response, have gone through it. Some queries still linger:-
1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed.
2. How foolproof, or what measures were taken to ward off rigging or 'defective' bids in the system. A cursory look at the list of bidders, if at all authentic seems to indicate most of those email addresses are foreign, and very few of them on the local . KE domain space. How ironical..?
3. It almost sounds incredulous that one bid reached KES 1,000,0000,038. Would love to look forward to when that gets paid up, please keep us posted..
Harry
On 26 Jan 2018 08:23, "Abdalla via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. Chief Executive Officer
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Listers, > So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail... > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
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I recall getting a call from Kenic a while back. I almost panicked when they mentioned that it was about a domain I had registered. My initial thoughts were along the line that it had been hacked and defaced in a very serious way. To my surprise they were calling to remind me to renew on time. The registrar of my domain(Safaricom) had not even bothered to send me an email or any other kind of reminder regarding the same. And at this point I will add that their cPanel is the most poorly implemented interface that I have interacted with. Completely crap. Anyway, I guess am joining Ali in commending Kenic for the efforts that they are putting in. Going further, perhaps they should consider bringing in a reputable audit firm to help put this matter to rest. It would be a good thing to do in principle and also, the mentioned figures are significant. Regards, Kevin On 26 January 2018 at 10:44, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Kennedy
You got that right. The auction is not connected to the main core registry system.
In the scheme of things we ought to commend KeNIC and the CA (Communication Authority) for responding promptly to issues of public interest. This can only improve their engagement and performance in relation to the public. I wish I could say the same regarding the team behind the eCiziten Portal.
@Sidney you raised a pertinent issue on possible fraud and leakage. Mine is to ask for clarification from KeNIC on this issue.
1. Was anyone who bid and won a domain denied it and given to someone else? 2. Since we know no system in the world is 100% full proof it would be good to get an assurance from KeNIC on what happens next.
@Barrack, I applaud your bringing to attention the privacy angle. There’s zero excuse for someone to peddle a document with personal information the way this document was circulated. Respect of personal privacy is an important matter in today’s world. Even as we wait for a bill to address this I urge us to play a personal role in this and exercise self regulation.
Regards
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Skype: abu-jomo
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On 26 Jan 2018, at 10:15 AM, Kennedy Aseda via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Harry,
1. Why would the second level domain system, *supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere)*, cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed. *I think the system KeNIC is referring to here is the auction system - not the registry itself.*
Thereafter, when auction closed; my understanding from the two communications is that the bulk deletion from the registry of the SLDs that were reserved but not paid for caused erroneous deletion of nameservers from the registry database.
Kennedy.
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Harry Delano via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hey Abdalla,
Thanks for the attached response, have gone through it. Some queries still linger:-
1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed.
2. How foolproof, or what measures were taken to ward off rigging or 'defective' bids in the system. A cursory look at the list of bidders, if at all authentic seems to indicate most of those email addresses are foreign, and very few of them on the local . KE domain space. How ironical..?
3. It almost sounds incredulous that one bid reached KES 1,000,0000,038. Would love to look forward to when that gets paid up, please keep us posted..
Harry
On 26 Jan 2018 08:23, "Abdalla via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Kennedy
You got that right. The auction is not connected to the main core registry system.
In the scheme of things we ought to commend KeNIC and the CA (Communication Authority) for responding promptly to issues of public interest. This can only improve their engagement and performance in relation to the public. I wish I could say the same regarding the team behind the eCiziten Portal.
@Sidney you raised a pertinent issue on possible fraud and leakage. Mine is to ask for clarification from KeNIC on this issue.
1. Was anyone who bid and won a domain denied it and given to someone else
All bid winners were communicated to, asked to confirm their interest and follow up by making payments directly to the KeNIC account and send proof of payment to the Finance team. Only 12 domains have been paid for and registered as communicated earlier.
2. Since we know no system in the world is 100% full proof it would be good to get an assurance from KeNIC on what happens next.
All names that have not been paid for will be released for auction and the date of the 2nd auction will be communicated. We are coming up with stringent procedures for the next auction.
@Barrack, I applaud your bringing to attention the privacy angle. There’s zero excuse for someone to peddle a document with personal information the way this document was circulated. Respect of personal privacy is an important matter in today’s world. Even as we wait for a bill to address this I urge us to play a personal role in this and exercise self regulation.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
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On 26 Jan 2018, at 10:15 AM, Kennedy Aseda via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Harry,
1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed. I think the system KeNIC is referring to here is the auction system - not the registry itself.
Thereafter, when auction closed; my understanding from the two communications is that the bulk deletion from the registry of the SLDs that were reserved but not paid for caused erroneous deletion of nameservers from the registry database.
Kennedy.
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Harry Delano via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Hey Abdalla,
Thanks for the attached response, have gone through it. Some queries still linger:-
1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed.
2. How foolproof, or what measures were taken to ward off rigging or 'defective' bids in the system. A cursory look at the list of bidders, if at all authentic seems to indicate most of those email addresses are foreign, and very few of them on the local . KE domain space. How ironical..?
3. It almost sounds incredulous that one bid reached KES 1,000,0000,038. Would love to look forward to when that gets paid up, please keep us posted..
Harry
On 26 Jan 2018 08:23, "Abdalla via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. Chief Executive Officer
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com <mailto:sidney.ochieng@gmail.com>> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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participants (12)
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Abdalla -
Ali Hussein -
Barrack Otieno -
ceo
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Harry Delano -
Kennedy Aseda -
Kevin Kamonye -
Martin -
Michael Pedersen -
Odhiambo Washington -
Phares Kariuki -
Sidney Ochieng