Dear Becky, Indeed you are right. The Right/ Freedom debate is one that rages in legal circles.We may not settle it here, unfortunately, save to say that a consensus should emerge on whether it should be stated / and implemented as a right( preferable- and in keeping with its basic tenet- than as a a freedoom.it really sometimes is just sematics as freedoms and rights are subject to exceptions-due to the cometiting nature of other rights/freedomse.g. right to expression versus right to reputation. Civil and political rights also get precedence in most jurisdictions over social and economic rights. Access clauses/ implementation AND Costs are issues too that indeed need to be tackled.See Day 3 / Principle 6 On a serious side of FOI see... http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foi/story/0,,1170196,00.html Any more views...?Anyone? Kihanya ----- Original Message ---- From: Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> To: kihanyajn@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:16:45 PM Subject: [kictanet] FOI--- how good is it?? Kihanya, thanks for the background, some thoughts on some of the questions raised, Right to verses freedom I think it should be freedom of information because in legal terms, the two terms are different. Though am not a lawyer, I read about the positive rights (right to) and the negative rights (freedoms) Now, governments are quick to obey the negative rights as opposed to positive rights. For instance, we can all go and demonstrate about our freedom from torture or detention without trial and the government will easily heed to our demands, (I guess so) But what about other recognized rights like the right to water? Can the government be compelled to honour our right to water, i think the main objective of the FOI should be to protect e-government and accountability but the bill talks about charging a minimal fee to those accessing information, what will happen to those people out of town, it talks about photocopying and perusal charges, but what about provision of such information in electronic format, do we still pay?? and will it serve the overall objective?? That’s my take on it Rebecca Wanjiku, journalist, p.o box 33515, Nairobi.00600 Kenya. Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/ Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Please unsubscribe or change your options at http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kihanyajn%40yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com