Google loses round one of court battle with Waiguru
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Google-loses-first-round-battle-against-W...
Grace Interesting to see that the issue of Internet Governance, specifically Third Party Liability, is coming into play in our courts. What is worrying is that I'm not seeing any policy direction on this issue. This was a key discussion point during WCIT12. Again, the issue of where we stand on this particularly important treaty is left for us to guess.. Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 10, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
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Interesting times, i must say. It would be prudent if CAK and other agencies started looking at legislation on this area, as should they fail, the courts will make the law. Victor Victor Kapiyo ==================================================== *"Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude" Zig Ziglar* On 10 December 2014 at 14:10, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Grace
Interesting to see that the issue of Internet Governance, specifically Third Party Liability, is coming into play in our courts. What is worrying is that I'm not seeing any policy direction on this issue.
This was a key discussion point during WCIT12. Again, the issue of where we stand on this particularly important treaty is left for us to guess..
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On Dec 10, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya's prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
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There should be a policy on when intermediaries can honour requests for disclosure etc. Otherwise, we shall see more of such cases in our courts. Relatedly, there are some posts purportedly unveiling the owner/editor of the Daily Post, pictures, address and all attached. Interesting times we live in! 2014-12-10 16:09 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Interesting times, i must say.
It would be prudent if CAK and other agencies started looking at legislation on this area, as should they fail, the courts will make the law.
Victor
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On 10 December 2014 at 14:10, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Grace
Interesting to see that the issue of Internet Governance, specifically Third Party Liability, is coming into play in our courts. What is worrying is that I'm not seeing any policy direction on this issue.
This was a key discussion point during WCIT12. Again, the issue of where we stand on this particularly important treaty is left for us to guess..
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On Dec 10, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya's prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Google-loses-first-round-battle-against-W...
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FWIW Google has existing policy regarding disclosure of user data and I believe that only applies to criminal cases. I'm not an expert at law but I doubt libel applies. On 10 Dec 2014, at 16:16, "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
There should be a policy on when intermediaries can honour requests for disclosure etc. Otherwise, we shall see more of such cases in our courts. Relatedly, there are some posts purportedly unveiling the owner/editor of the Daily Post, pictures, address and all attached. Interesting times we live in!
2014-12-10 16:09 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>: Interesting times, i must say.
It would be prudent if CAK and other agencies started looking at legislation on this area, as should they fail, the courts will make the law.
Victor
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On 10 December 2014 at 14:10, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Grace
Interesting to see that the issue of Internet Governance, specifically Third Party Liability, is coming into play in our courts. What is worrying is that I'm not seeing any policy direction on this issue.
This was a key discussion point during WCIT12. Again, the issue of where we stand on this particularly important treaty is left for us to guess..
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On Dec 10, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
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We have taken somewhat similar action around music piracy. On Dec 10, 2014 4:10 PM, "Victor Kapiyo via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting times, i must say.
It would be prudent if CAK and other agencies started looking at legislation on this area, as should they fail, the courts will make the law.
Victor
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On 10 December 2014 at 14:10, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Grace
Interesting to see that the issue of Internet Governance, specifically Third Party Liability, is coming into play in our courts. What is worrying is that I'm not seeing any policy direction on this issue.
This was a key discussion point during WCIT12. Again, the issue of where we stand on this particularly important treaty is left for us to guess..
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On Dec 10, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Google-loses-first-round-battle-against-W...
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Exactly how does Google come into this? Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
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Ngigi The whole issue comes under:- 1. Third Party liability - if google hosts the site. Which is what this suit is alluding to. OR 2. The new take down rules involving search engines ('right to be forgotten') which specifically states that someone has a right to have his/her particular story removed from search engines. See story below on this issue where the EU has specific policy direction:- http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/3/5867477/google-takes-down-links-to-british-... Again, some of these issues can be resolved fairly quickly if we had policy direction which the court can quickly use. Anyone knows what the latest ICT Bill says about these particular issues? Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Exactly how does Google come into this?
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On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Google-loses-first-round-battle-against-W...
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I don't think they are the right party in the suit. Unless they host those sites. On Dec 10, 2014 8:24 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Exactly how does Google come into this?
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www.A1.io On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya's prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
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From the news article, the offending site is hosted on the blogspot[.]com platform which is a product of Google. Google has policies in place regarding disclosure of personal information to authorities. You can easily check them out online. On 11 Dec 2014, at 07:49, "Victor Kapiyo via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I don't think they are the right party in the suit. Unless they host those sites.
On Dec 10, 2014 8:24 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Exactly how does Google come into this?
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On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Google-loses-first-round-battle-against-W...
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This is an interesting development. The law has been silent in terms of Intermediary Liabilities. It would be good to have precedence in terms of case law on the same since we have refused to propose bills on the same. The only challenge is those advising the judge, and the media too are not very informed in the area of Internet intermediaries and we might end up with bad precedence. This is also the Observation of Kictanet (Victor, Grace and Alice), and CIPIT in the Stanford map on Intermediary liability in Kenya (1) We should not expect web hosting companies to police content of their customers, but this has become the norm everywhere. Companies like Rapidshare shrunk to nothing because of requirement to police client's content. (2). Others like megauploads died out. In other jurisdictions, search engines too suffer law suites yet they just make the information available and are not the publishers. Why does this happen? Intermediaries are easier to identify: and therefore, they become the only ones to sue in cases where the alleged culprit remains anonymous, and they have the technical ability to ensure the compliance to court rulings, and they have deep pockets in case the litigant wins the case and there is libel damages are to be paid. There is precedence elsewhere in the world, an interesting one was decided by the Supreme court of Argentina (3) where a lady had sued Google and Yahoo for linking search results to third-party content that violated her fundamental rights and infringed copyright. The decision was largely favourable to search engines. Lets wait and see. Notes (1) http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/page/wilmap-kenya (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapidShare (3) http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/case-watch-top-argentine -court-blazes-trail-online-free-expression ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya T: twitter.com/lordmwesh "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson On 11 December 2014 at 07:58, Mark Kipyegon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
From the news article, the offending site is hosted on the blogspot[.]com platform which is a product of Google.
Google has policies in place regarding disclosure of personal information to authorities. You can easily check them out online.
On 11 Dec 2014, at 07:49, "Victor Kapiyo via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I don't think they are the right party in the suit. Unless they host those sites. On Dec 10, 2014 8:24 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Exactly how does Google come into this?
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www.A1.io On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya's prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Google-loses-first-round-battle-against-W...
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On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is an interesting development.
The law has been silent in terms of Intermediary Liabilities. It would be good to have precedence in terms of case law on the same since we have refused to propose bills on the same. The only challenge is those advising the judge, and the media too are not very informed in the area of Internet intermediaries and we might end up with bad precedence. This is also the Observation of Kictanet (Victor, Grace and Alice), and CIPIT in the Stanford map on Intermediary liability in Kenya (1)
We should not expect web hosting companies to police content of their customers, but this has become the norm everywhere. Companies like Rapidshare shrunk to nothing because of requirement to police client's content. (2). Others like megauploads died out. In other jurisdictions, search engines too suffer law suites yet they just make the information available and are not the publishers.
Why does this happen? Intermediaries are easier to identify: and therefore, they become the only ones to sue in cases where the alleged culprit remains anonymous, and they have the technical ability to ensure the compliance to court rulings, and they have deep pockets in case the litigant wins the case and there is libel damages are to be paid.
There is precedence elsewhere in the world, an interesting one was decided by the Supreme court of Argentina (3) where a lady had sued Google and Yahoo for linking search results to third-party content that violated her fundamental rights and infringed copyright. The decision was largely favourable to search engines.
Lets wait and see.
Notes (1) http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/page/wilmap-kenya (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapidShare (3) http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/case-watch-top-argentine-court-...
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On 11 December 2014 at 07:58, Mark Kipyegon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: From the news article, the offending site is hosted on the blogspot[.]com platform which is a product of Google.
Google has policies in place regarding disclosure of personal information to authorities. You can easily check them out online.
On 11 Dec 2014, at 07:49, "Victor Kapiyo via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I don't think they are the right party in the suit. Unless they host those sites.
On Dec 10, 2014 8:24 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Exactly how does Google come into this?
Waithaka Ngigi
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On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.
Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Google-loses-first-round-battle-against-W...
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The law is silent on intermediary liabilities but we can borrow 'safe harbour scheme' from countries like Australia, US and Europe. Safe harbour scheme for internet intermediaries protect them from liability for offenses committed by persons who use their services, where the intermediary meets certain conditions. This is because given the quantity of material generated on these sites, and the instantaneous way in which online communications are sent and received, this may be oppressive and unreasonable to expect the search engines to police all content coursing through the system. May be Section 230 of Communications Decency Act 1996 (US) contains a particularly strong and broadly applicable safe harbour scheme which can be used to come up with an internet intermediary law. No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider...No cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section. From: Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: scmutunga@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 December 2014, 9:23 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Google loses round one of court battle with Waiguru This is an interesting development. The law has been silent in terms of Intermediary Liabilities. It would be good to have precedence in terms of case law on the same since we have refused to propose bills on the same. The only challenge is those advising the judge, and the media too are not very informed in the area of Internet intermediaries and we might end up with bad precedence. This is also the Observation of Kictanet (Victor, Grace and Alice), and CIPIT in the Stanford map on Intermediary liability in Kenya (1) We should not expect web hosting companies to police content of their customers, but this has become the norm everywhere. Companies like Rapidshare shrunk to nothing because of requirement to police client's content. (2). Others like megauploads died out. In other jurisdictions, search engines too suffer law suites yet they just make the information available and are not the publishers. Why does this happen? Intermediaries are easier to identify: and therefore, they become the only ones to sue in cases where the alleged culprit remains anonymous, and they have the technical ability to ensure the compliance to court rulings, and they have deep pockets in case the litigant wins the case and there is libel damages are to be paid. There is precedence elsewhere in the world, an interesting one was decided by the Supreme court of Argentina (3) where a lady had sued Google and Yahoo for linking search results to third-party content that violated her fundamental rights and infringed copyright. The decision was largely favourable to search engines. Lets wait and see. Notes (1) http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/page/wilmap-kenya (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapidShare (3) http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/case-watch-top-argentine-court-... ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya T: twitter.com/lordmwesh "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson On 11 December 2014 at 07:58, Mark Kipyegon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
From the news article, the offending site is hosted on the blogspot[.]com platform which is a product of Google. Google has policies in place regarding disclosure of personal information to authorities. You can easily check them out online. On 11 Dec 2014, at 07:49, "Victor Kapiyo via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I don't think they are the right party in the suit. Unless they host those sites.On Dec 10, 2014 8:24 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Exactly how does Google come into this?Waithaka NgigiAlliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenyawww.A1.ioOn 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated.Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Google-loses-first-round-battle-against-W... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/vkapiyo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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I think they key difference between this case and the usual third-party intermediate wrangles we come across is that Google are not being held liable for the content, they are merely being asked to disclose the *identity* of the content owner, which they would have obtained when setting up the hosting for this owner. IMHO this is not a big deal and Google should simply provide the required information as required by court. On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Isaac Mutunga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The law is silent on intermediary liabilities but we can borrow 'safe harbour scheme' from countries like Australia, US and Europe. Safe harbour scheme for internet intermediaries protect them from liability for offenses committed by persons who use their services, where the intermediary meets certain conditions. This is because given the quantity of material generated on these sites, and the instantaneous way in which online communications are sent and received, this may be oppressive and unreasonable to expect the search engines to police all content coursing through the system. May be Section 230 of *Communications Decency Act 1996 *(US) contains a particularly strong and broadly applicable safe harbour scheme which can be used to come up with an internet intermediary law.
*No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider...No cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section.*
------------------------------ *From:* Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> *To:* scmutunga@yahoo.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','scmutunga@yahoo.com');> *Sent:* Thursday, 11 December 2014, 9:23 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Google loses round one of court battle with Waiguru
This is an interesting development.
The law has been silent in terms of Intermediary Liabilities. It would be good to have precedence in terms of case law on the same since we have refused to propose bills on the same. The only challenge is those advising the judge, and the media too are not very informed in the area of Internet intermediaries and we might end up with bad precedence. This is also the Observation of Kictanet (Victor, Grace and Alice), and CIPIT in the Stanford map on Intermediary liability in Kenya (1)
We should not expect web hosting companies to police content of their customers, but this has become the norm everywhere. Companies like Rapidshare shrunk to nothing because of requirement to police client's content. (2). Others like megauploads died out. In other jurisdictions, search engines too suffer law suites yet they just make the information available and are not the publishers.
Why does this happen? Intermediaries are easier to identify: and therefore, they become the only ones to sue in cases where the alleged culprit remains anonymous, and they have the technical ability to ensure the compliance to court rulings, and they have deep pockets in case the litigant wins the case and there is libel damages are to be paid.
There is precedence elsewhere in the world, an interesting one was decided by the Supreme court of Argentina (3) where a lady had sued Google and Yahoo for linking search results to third-party content that violated her fundamental rights and infringed copyright. The decision was largely favourable to search engines.
Lets wait and see.
Notes (1) http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/page/wilmap-kenya (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapidShare (3) http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/case-watch-top-argentine -court-blazes-trail-online-free-expression
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On 11 December 2014 at 07:58, Mark Kipyegon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> wrote:
From the news article, the offending site is hosted on the blogspot[.]com platform which is a product of Google.
Google has policies in place regarding disclosure of personal information to authorities. You can easily check them out online.
On 11 Dec 2014, at 07:49, "Victor Kapiyo via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> wrote:
I don't think they are the right party in the suit. Unless they host those sites. On Dec 10, 2014 8:24 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> wrote:
Exactly how does Google come into this? Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io <http://www.a1.io/> On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated. Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
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Brian On the contrary, privacy is another major issue that is now a big thing in the whole internet Governance debate. Different schools of thought here. Bottomline is that we must tread carefully because it also alludes to:- 1. The protection of whistle blowers 2. And on the converse people who hid behind the internet's anonymity to commit crime. This is a delicate balancing act and I suspect there are no easy answers. Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I think they key difference between this case and the usual third-party intermediate wrangles we come across is that Google are not being held liable for the content, they are merely being asked to disclose the *identity* of the content owner, which they would have obtained when setting up the hosting for this owner.
IMHO this is not a big deal and Google should simply provide the required information as required by court.
On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Isaac Mutunga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The law is silent on intermediary liabilities but we can borrow 'safe harbour scheme' from countries like Australia, US and Europe. Safe harbour scheme for internet intermediaries protect them from liability for offenses committed by persons who use their services, where the intermediary meets certain conditions. This is because given the quantity of material generated on these sites, and the instantaneous way in which online communications are sent and received, this may be oppressive and unreasonable to expect the search engines to police all content coursing through the system. May be Section 230 of Communications Decency Act 1996 (US) contains a particularly strong and broadly applicable safe harbour scheme which can be used to come up with an internet intermediary law. No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider...No cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section.
From: Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: scmutunga@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 December 2014, 9:23 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Google loses round one of court battle with Waiguru
This is an interesting development.
The law has been silent in terms of Intermediary Liabilities. It would be good to have precedence in terms of case law on the same since we have refused to propose bills on the same. The only challenge is those advising the judge, and the media too are not very informed in the area of Internet intermediaries and we might end up with bad precedence. This is also the Observation of Kictanet (Victor, Grace and Alice), and CIPIT in the Stanford map on Intermediary liability in Kenya (1)
We should not expect web hosting companies to police content of their customers, but this has become the norm everywhere. Companies like Rapidshare shrunk to nothing because of requirement to police client's content. (2). Others like megauploads died out. In other jurisdictions, search engines too suffer law suites yet they just make the information available and are not the publishers.
Why does this happen? Intermediaries are easier to identify: and therefore, they become the only ones to sue in cases where the alleged culprit remains anonymous, and they have the technical ability to ensure the compliance to court rulings, and they have deep pockets in case the litigant wins the case and there is libel damages are to be paid.
There is precedence elsewhere in the world, an interesting one was decided by the Supreme court of Argentina (3) where a lady had sued Google and Yahoo for linking search results to third-party content that violated her fundamental rights and infringed copyright. The decision was largely favourable to search engines.
Lets wait and see.
Notes (1) http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/page/wilmap-kenya (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapidShare (3) http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/case-watch-top-argentine-court-...
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On 11 December 2014 at 07:58, Mark Kipyegon via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
From the news article, the offending site is hosted on the blogspot[.]com platform which is a product of Google.
Google has policies in place regarding disclosure of personal information to authorities. You can easily check them out online.
On 11 Dec 2014, at 07:49, "Victor Kapiyo via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I don't think they are the right party in the suit. Unless they host those sites. On Dec 10, 2014 8:24 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Exactly how does Google come into this? Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya’s prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated. Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
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I am yet to read the ruling but it brings in another interesting perspective. Google Kenya though always ready to assist has been relying on "Google Inc is in America". If Google Kenya can be sued for Google Inc matters, it is going to be an interesting twist. 2014-12-13 10:28 GMT+03:00 Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Brian
On the contrary, privacy is another major issue that is now a big thing in the whole internet Governance debate. Different schools of thought here. Bottomline is that we must tread carefully because it also alludes to:-
1. The protection of whistle blowers
2. And on the converse people who hid behind the internet's anonymity to commit crime.
This is a delicate balancing act and I suspect there are no easy answers.
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On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I think they key difference between this case and the usual third-party intermediate wrangles we come across is that Google are not being held liable for the content, they are merely being asked to disclose the *identity* of the content owner, which they would have obtained when setting up the hosting for this owner.
IMHO this is not a big deal and Google should simply provide the required information as required by court.
On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Isaac Mutunga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The law is silent on intermediary liabilities but we can borrow 'safe harbour scheme' from countries like Australia, US and Europe. Safe harbour scheme for internet intermediaries protect them from liability for offenses committed by persons who use their services, where the intermediary meets certain conditions. This is because given the quantity of material generated on these sites, and the instantaneous way in which online communications are sent and received, this may be oppressive and unreasonable to expect the search engines to police all content coursing through the system. May be Section 230 of *Communications Decency Act 1996 *(US) contains a particularly strong and broadly applicable safe harbour scheme which can be used to come up with an internet intermediary law.
*No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider...No cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section.*
------------------------------ *From:* Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* scmutunga@yahoo.com *Sent:* Thursday, 11 December 2014, 9:23 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Google loses round one of court battle with Waiguru
This is an interesting development.
The law has been silent in terms of Intermediary Liabilities. It would be good to have precedence in terms of case law on the same since we have refused to propose bills on the same. The only challenge is those advising the judge, and the media too are not very informed in the area of Internet intermediaries and we might end up with bad precedence. This is also the Observation of Kictanet (Victor, Grace and Alice), and CIPIT in the Stanford map on Intermediary liability in Kenya (1)
We should not expect web hosting companies to police content of their customers, but this has become the norm everywhere. Companies like Rapidshare shrunk to nothing because of requirement to police client's content. (2). Others like megauploads died out. In other jurisdictions, search engines too suffer law suites yet they just make the information available and are not the publishers.
Why does this happen? Intermediaries are easier to identify: and therefore, they become the only ones to sue in cases where the alleged culprit remains anonymous, and they have the technical ability to ensure the compliance to court rulings, and they have deep pockets in case the litigant wins the case and there is libel damages are to be paid.
There is precedence elsewhere in the world, an interesting one was decided by the Supreme court of Argentina (3) where a lady had sued Google and Yahoo for linking search results to third-party content that violated her fundamental rights and infringed copyright. The decision was largely favourable to search engines.
Lets wait and see.
Notes (1) http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/page/wilmap-kenya (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapidShare (3) http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/case-watch-top-argentine -court-blazes-trail-online-free-expression
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On 11 December 2014 at 07:58, Mark Kipyegon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
From the news article, the offending site is hosted on the blogspot[.]com platform which is a product of Google.
Google has policies in place regarding disclosure of personal information to authorities. You can easily check them out online.
On 11 Dec 2014, at 07:49, "Victor Kapiyo via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I don't think they are the right party in the suit. Unless they host those sites. On Dec 10, 2014 8:24 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Exactly how does Google come into this? Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io <http://www.a1.io/> On 10 Dec 2014 12:56, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Constitutional and Human Rights Division of the High Court, sitting in Nairobi, declined to grant Google Kenya's prayers to be struck out of the case in which Ms Waiguru has sued Google Kenya and its mother company Google Incorporated. Google Kenya had made the application in response to a suit the Cabinet Secretary had filed against it and Google Inc. as part of her fight with a Kenyan website Daily Post over publication of a story she claims was defamatory.
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