I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: * The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is: 1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me? Mblayo
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3Awhy-government-printer-must-resign-from-office-&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=60 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
Good point would also like to know if the law has to be published for it to be operationalize. Thought the whole idea of the government printer is just for communication purposes. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
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Thanks Kris - "operationalization" is at two levels. One is that the Cabinet Secretary/Minister for matters related to Trade is expected, within the Consumer Protection Act, 2012, to "operationalize" by appointing the Kenya Consumer Protection Advisory Committee and the other "operationalization" is that he has to "appoint a date" in 90 days when the law comes into "effect". After 90 days, it automatically takes effect but it will still be lame. Trouble is that the Minister can't "operationalize" what he hasn't seen. But immediately the President assents, it becomes law but the effective date may be progressive. In this case we have received a formal confirmation from the Ministry of Trade that they are also waiting for the Government Printer to publish it. Please join us for the peaceful demonstration on February 21st. The office of the Government Printer has, by all means, been slow to publish Bills and Acts. One wonders whether there is any further appraisals are ever conducted on such persons. Section 94 of that Act, it may interest some people on this list, reads thus; 94. There shall be consumer representation on all regulatory bodies and the respective appointing authorities shall have due regard to accredited consumer organizations and the Advisory Committee in making such appointments. ________________________________ From: kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Good point would also like to know if the law has to be published for it to be operationalize. Thought the whole idea of the government printer is just for communication purposes. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance.What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo
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I'm not a lawyer, but I will attempt to answer. In the time of legislation, a clause can be included in the law that it will become operational on gazettment, or on presidential ascent. Regards On 14 February 2013 17:23, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Good point would also like to know if the law has to be published for it to be operationalize. Thought the whole idea of the government printer is just for communication purposes.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
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Clarification needed /// if I am a techie, I work for a bank and I manage their firewall ... or i am CISSP certified professional or a business continuity and disaster recovery professional I am protecting consumers right ? Like the guy managing the firewalls at MPESA protects over 20million consumers ? just asking On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
I'm not a lawyer, but I will attempt to answer.
In the time of legislation, a clause can be included in the law that it will become operational on gazettment, or on presidential ascent.
Regards
On 14 February 2013 17:23, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Good point would also like to know if the law has to be published for it to be operationalize. Thought the whole idea of the government printer is just for communication purposes.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
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Liko, I think that for clarity as Bw. Mutoro indicated "accredited consumer organizations and the Advisory Committee" are what the law will recognize as able to present individuals for appointment to the various regulatory bodies. Given that this is the specific section of the Act that seems to be "squeezing" COFEK - I would imagine that there are certain regulatory bodies on which COFEK wants to ensure that it get its people appointed to. (I am simply trying to read between the lines) Brian On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Clarification needed ///
if I am a techie, I work for a bank and I manage their firewall ... or i am CISSP certified professional
or a business continuity and disaster recovery professional
I am protecting consumers right ?
Like the guy managing the firewalls at MPESA protects over 20million consumers ?
just asking
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
I'm not a lawyer, but I will attempt to answer.
In the time of legislation, a clause can be included in the law that it will become operational on gazettment, or on presidential ascent.
Regards
On 14 February 2013 17:23, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Good point would also like to know if the law has to be published for it to be operationalize. Thought the whole idea of the government printer is just for communication purposes.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com
wrote:
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
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Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke ________________________________ From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3Awhy-government-printer-must-resign-from-office-&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=60 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance.What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo
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Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Brian:
Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
------------------------------ *From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
*To:* smutoro@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: * The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
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Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Stephen,
I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards".
On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Brian:
Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
------------------------------ *From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
*To:* smutoro@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: * The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
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@James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Stephen,
I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards".
On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Brian:
Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
------------------------------ *From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
*To:* smutoro@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: * The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
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Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@James,
You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed.
On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Stephen,
I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards".
On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Brian:
Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
------------------------------ *From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
*To:* smutoro@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: * The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo
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Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke ________________________________ From: Kerubo Ombati <kaykerubo@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: @James,
You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed.
On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stephen,
I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards".
On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Brian:
Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February
21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
________________________________ From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance.What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo
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Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki ________________________________ From: stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke ________________________________ From: Kerubo Ombati <kaykerubo@gmail.com> To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: @James,
You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed.
On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Stephen,
I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards".
On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Brian:
Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February
21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action.
Kind regards,
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
________________________________ From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
To: smutoro@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance.What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo
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Brian, There are two ways of generating Bills to Parliament. The first one is through the line Ministry taking the Bill through consultations with stakehoders then finally it becomes an Act of Parliament. The line Ministry will make sure that the provisions of the Act are implemented. The other method of getting the Bills through Parliament is through a sponsorship by an interest group through some MP. Such Bills go through Parliament but fail to get a home (Ministry) that bears the responsibility. In most cases such bills never become effective. One example is the Njoki Ndungu's Children's Act. A great piece of legislation but has failed to get a real home. Nobody knows why some Acts of Parliment fail to be enforced. Civil Society that often sponsors Bills through MPs must change tact and start pushing them through the line Ministry. This is what we did with the Freedom of Information and Data Protection Bills that we worked with Civil Society to push them. With the new constitution, it is imperative that we closely work with the civil society for the sake of our country. Lone ranger tactics often fail and we all end up missing the point. Ndemo.
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
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Brian: Thanks for your need-to-know request. The Consumer Rights Article 46(3) of the Constitution of Kenya 2010, provides for a legislation to "give it full effect". It follows neither of the two suggested options - of being escalated through a Ministry or Civil Society organization and "some MP". In the case of the Consumer Protection Act, 2012 - any doubting Thomases can ask Mr Charles Nyachae or Dr Catherine Mumma to check if it is not a CIC product. Lets face it - as economists or social scientists, we don't know all the law we purport to. Even what is being quoted elsewhere as the classic case study merely because some people were involved - how easy is it to ask information or protect private data as provided for by Article 31? This is the kind of a fallacy, where a civil servant, in a lone ranger style, advertises (for instance) to recruit a board member of a parastatal of a would-be equal. That would be usurpation of the role of a Minister to advertise and perhaps interview and recommend an "equal" for appointment to the same position. Fact - not everything coming from everyone in government is a fact as it appears to be sadly taken, on most occasions at least based on my reading, on this list. After all, government functions, policy making and implementation cannot be wholly carried out online in a lone ranger style. It equally misses the point. Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:43 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Brian, There are two ways of generating Bills to Parliament. The first one is through the line Ministry taking the Bill through consultations with stakehoders then finally it becomes an Act of Parliament. The line Ministry will make sure that the provisions of the Act are implemented. The other method of getting the Bills through Parliament is through a sponsorship by an interest group through some MP. Such Bills go through Parliament but fail to get a home (Ministry) that bears the responsibility. In most cases such bills never become effective. One example is the Njoki Ndungu's Children's Act. A great piece of legislation but has failed to get a real home.
Nobody knows why some Acts of Parliment fail to be enforced. Civil Society that often sponsors Bills through MPs must change tact and start pushing them through the line Ministry. This is what we did with the Freedom of Information and Data Protection Bills that we worked with Civil Society to push them. With the new constitution, it is imperative that we closely work with the civil society for the sake of our country. Lone ranger tactics often fail and we all end up missing the point.
Ndemo.
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
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My brother Stephen, If you read my post, I did not in any way refer to you or Cofek. I was simply explaining the dilema of lone ranger Bills. I gave the example of Njoki Ndungu's sexual offenses Act and also wanted to add Muthuto's alcohol Act. There are many of this lone ranger Bills that suffer at the alter of implementation. Line Ministry sponsored Bills often have an institutional arrangement to enable smooth implementation. That is why we have a regulator to ensure the Insurance industry, the Cooperative industry or closer to home the Telecom industry is well regulated when we have many players. Similarly, when there will be many consumer outfits, we shall certainly need a regulator to ensure the public interests are taken care of. Imagine if the Cooperative Ministry fails to ensure elections are held in the cooperative movement. I do not want to fight with you at all. Most Boards will be advertizing to allow all Kenyans participate in the running of their public investments. We are not the first ones to do this but this is going to be standard practice if you properly interpret the constitution. Have a great week ahead my brother. Ndemo.
Brian: Thanks for your need-to-know request. The Consumer Rights Article 46(3) of the Constitution of Kenya 2010, provides for a legislation to "give it full effect". It follows neither of the two suggested options - of being escalated through a Ministry or Civil Society organization and "some MP". In the case of the Consumer Protection Act, 2012 - any doubting Thomases can ask Mr Charles Nyachae or Dr Catherine Mumma to check if it is not a CIC product. Lets face it - as economists or social scientists, we don't know all the law we purport to. Even what is being quoted elsewhere as the classic case study merely because some people were involved - how easy is it to ask information or protect private data as provided for by Article 31?
This is the kind of a fallacy, where a civil servant, in a lone ranger style, advertises (for instance) to recruit a board member of a parastatal of a would-be equal. That would be usurpation of the role of a Minister to advertise and perhaps interview and recommend an "equal" for appointment to the same position. Fact - not everything coming from everyone in government is a fact as it appears to be sadly taken, on most occasions at least based on my reading, on this list. After all, government functions, policy making and implementation cannot be wholly carried out online in a lone ranger style. It equally misses the point.
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:43 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Brian, There are two ways of generating Bills to Parliament. The first one is through the line Ministry taking the Bill through consultations with stakehoders then finally it becomes an Act of Parliament. The line Ministry will make sure that the provisions of the Act are implemented. The other method of getting the Bills through Parliament is through a sponsorship by an interest group through some MP. Such Bills go through Parliament but fail to get a home (Ministry) that bears the responsibility. In most cases such bills never become effective. One example is the Njoki Ndungu's Children's Act. A great piece of legislation but has failed to get a real home.
Nobody knows why some Acts of Parliment fail to be enforced. Civil Society that often sponsors Bills through MPs must change tact and start pushing them through the line Ministry. This is what we did with the Freedom of Information and Data Protection Bills that we worked with Civil Society to push them. With the new constitution, it is imperative that we closely work with the civil society for the sake of our country. Lone ranger tactics often fail and we all end up missing the point.
Ndemo.
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
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Bw. Ndemo, Could be wrong but is it not primarily a matter of leadership/governance? Does Organizational Reporting not make a big difference in Performance Management? If all parties involved in executing a strategy or promoting a civil culture, do report on who is supporting/hindering their efforts, would it not make a difference? Reporting tools/technologies are valuable but in Kenya we view them as expenses not as enhancers of performance. If all we factor is expenses or kickbacks we may end up not contracting (local) firms which can educate us on the way to go. An IT Professional recently noted, were it not for Business Reporting, they would put everyone in their organization on "Open Office", but as it is they need to maintain some licenses of an Office Suite greatly enhanced by other Business Reporting Technologies :) On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
My brother Stephen, If you read my post, I did not in any way refer to you or Cofek. I was simply explaining the dilema of lone ranger Bills. I gave the example of Njoki Ndungu's sexual offenses Act and also wanted to add Muthuto's alcohol Act. There are many of this lone ranger Bills that suffer at the alter of implementation.
Line Ministry sponsored Bills often have an institutional arrangement to enable smooth implementation. That is why we have a regulator to ensure the Insurance industry, the Cooperative industry or closer to home the Telecom industry is well regulated when we have many players. Similarly, when there will be many consumer outfits, we shall certainly need a regulator to ensure the public interests are taken care of. Imagine if the Cooperative Ministry fails to ensure elections are held in the cooperative movement.
I do not want to fight with you at all. Most Boards will be advertizing to allow all Kenyans participate in the running of their public investments. We are not the first ones to do this but this is going to be standard practice if you properly interpret the constitution.
Have a great week ahead my brother.
Ndemo.
Brian: Thanks for your need-to-know request. The Consumer Rights Article 46(3) of the Constitution of Kenya 2010, provides for a legislation to "give it full effect". It follows neither of the two suggested options - of being escalated through a Ministry or Civil Society organization and "some MP". In the case of the Consumer Protection Act, 2012 - any doubting Thomases can ask Mr Charles Nyachae or Dr Catherine Mumma to check if it is not a CIC product. Lets face it - as economists or social scientists, we don't know all the law we purport to. Even what is being quoted elsewhere as the classic case study merely because some people were involved - how easy is it to ask information or protect private data as provided for by Article 31?
This is the kind of a fallacy, where a civil servant, in a lone ranger style, advertises (for instance) to recruit a board member of a parastatal of a would-be equal. That would be usurpation of the role of a Minister to advertise and perhaps interview and recommend an "equal" for appointment to the same position. Fact - not everything coming from everyone in government is a fact as it appears to be sadly taken, on most occasions at least based on my reading, on this list. After all, government functions, policy making and implementation cannot be wholly carried out online in a lone ranger style. It equally misses the point.
Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke
On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:43 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Brian, There are two ways of generating Bills to Parliament. The first one is through the line Ministry taking the Bill through consultations with stakehoders then finally it becomes an Act of Parliament. The line Ministry will make sure that the provisions of the Act are implemented. The other method of getting the Bills through Parliament is through a sponsorship by an interest group through some MP. Such Bills go through Parliament but fail to get a home (Ministry) that bears the responsibility. In most cases such bills never become effective. One example is the Njoki Ndungu's Children's Act. A great piece of legislation but has failed to get a real home.
Nobody knows why some Acts of Parliment fail to be enforced. Civil Society that often sponsors Bills through MPs must change tact and start pushing them through the line Ministry. This is what we did with the Freedom of Information and Data Protection Bills that we worked with Civil Society to push them. With the new constitution, it is imperative that we closely work with the civil society for the sake of our country. Lone ranger tactics often fail and we all end up missing the point.
Ndemo.
I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK.
Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: *
The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).
Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result.
Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls.
From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.
Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is:
1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly)
Please enlighten me? Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
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participants (11)
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Agosta Liko
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bitange@jambo.co.ke
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Brian Munyao Longwe
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James Mbugua
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John Kariuki
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Kerubo Ombati
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Kivuva
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kris njoroge
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Odhiambo Washington
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S.M. Muraya
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stephen Mutoro