Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David, I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan. The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step. Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations. Wainaina On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? David, I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan. The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step. Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations. Wainaina On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
-----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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David, Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public? alice (Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with) dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
-----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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To add to Alice's point, it is clear the media is determined to exclude content that would inform and empower the public...if the said content does not serve short-term interests of the media owners. The freedom of the media should not be at the expense of public interests. For instance, it is common knowledge that many objective and professional editors find themselves at the mercy of their employers whenever a news piece does not favour a friend of the owner. That is how we ended up with a media with blood in it's hands during the post-election crisis. It's all about the biased reporting the media has resorted to in fighting the Bill. So who should determine the direction and nature of content? An independent government regulator or the media owners? Maybe a mix of the two would be a step forward...which is what the amendments would result in. If the President passes the Bill, the big change for media would be on matters of programming codes. The other big issue of Section 88 is neither here nor there because failure by the President to ascent will leave us with the same provision under KCA (1998). Wainaina On 12/14/08, alice <alice@apc.org> wrote:
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
-----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Wainaina/Alice et al, 1. How can Kictanet help package the following for consumption in the public domain?? 2. How can stakeholders in this forum help guide this paradigm shift...i.e...that there is a different school of thought that cares about the rest of the bill and is willing to champion dialogue rather than fighting the Media?? 3. At Mediacorp, we can support Kictanet with 1/2page space in a leading daily (if need be) to pioneer dialogue and consensus building activities. We believe that kictanet can help cool temparatures before our businesses are affected for the second time this year. Bill On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote:
To add to Alice's point, it is clear the media is determined to exclude content that would inform and empower the public...if the said content does not serve short-term interests of the media owners. The freedom of the media should not be at the expense of public interests.
For instance, it is common knowledge that many objective and professional editors find themselves at the mercy of their employers whenever a news piece does not favour a friend of the owner. That is how we ended up with a media with blood in it's hands during the post-election crisis. It's all about the biased reporting the media has resorted to in fighting the Bill.
So who should determine the direction and nature of content? An independent government regulator or the media owners? Maybe a mix of the two would be a step forward...which is what the amendments would result in.
If the President passes the Bill, the big change for media would be on matters of programming codes. The other big issue of Section 88 is neither here nor there because failure by the President to ascent will leave us with the same provision under KCA (1998).
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, alice <alice@apc.org> wrote:
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Good people, At this point, finger pointing does not help and really "two wrongs does not make a right" because tempers are going high and Bill established what i was driving at, things could get back like before and you dont want that. Please lets appeal to the voice of reasoning and apply measures that would retract this track because all you need is like what happened in Greece the other day, a police officer deliberately or not shot a teenager and that country has not known peace. For Kenya, we dont even have the luxury of the Greece situation given the legacy so please i would put my weight behind Bill's proposals below, lets move quickly to calm tempers and defuse the tension. I left Nairobi this morning for Accra and trust me, the atmosphere was not good for my liking. Eric here
Wainaina/Alice et al,
1. How can Kictanet help package the following for consumption in the public domain?? 2. How can stakeholders in this forum help guide this paradigm shift...i.e...that there is a different school of thought that cares about the rest of the bill and is willing to champion dialogue rather than fighting the Media?? 3. At Mediacorp, we can support Kictanet with 1/2page space in a leading daily (if need be) to pioneer dialogue and consensus building activities. We believe that kictanet can help cool temparatures before our businesses are affected for the second time this year.
Bill
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote:
To add to Alice's point, it is clear the media is determined to exclude content that would inform and empower the public...if the said content does not serve short-term interests of the media owners. The freedom of the media should not be at the expense of public interests.
For instance, it is common knowledge that many objective and professional editors find themselves at the mercy of their employers whenever a news piece does not favour a friend of the owner. That is how we ended up with a media with blood in it's hands during the post-election crisis. It's all about the biased reporting the media has resorted to in fighting the Bill.
So who should determine the direction and nature of content? An independent government regulator or the media owners? Maybe a mix of the two would be a step forward...which is what the amendments would result in.
If the President passes the Bill, the big change for media would be on matters of programming codes. The other big issue of Section 88 is neither here nor there because failure by the President to ascent will leave us with the same provision under KCA (1998).
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, alice <alice@apc.org> wrote:
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Eric, On a very,very,veeery light note here.... --- On Sun, 12/14/08, emko@internetresearch.com.gh <emko@internetresearch.com.gh> wrote:
I left Nairobi this morning for Accra and trust me, the atmosphere was not good for my liking.
Sounds like you stole some Kofi Annan's negotiated-deal-making IP?;) Or it runs deep among Ghanaians? In case you're recalled to Nairobi (by Consumers, Kictanet, Government, and the Media Owners), you won't mind if none of the protagonists comprehensively publicise your negotiated "opinion and expression peace accord" shuttle-diplomacy efforts? Hey, I am just trying to diffuse some tensions here, you know..;) Sincerely, Alex
Alex, Really, the issue for Africans is for how long shall we be taking ten steps back after taking two forward? Africa's founding leaders including Nkrumah, Kenaytta, Nyerere sang one song, "Forward ever, backwards never", even from their ancestral home, they are urging us to go forward, lets go forward people. Eric here
Eric,
On a very,very,veeery light note here....
--- On Sun, 12/14/08, emko@internetresearch.com.gh <emko@internetresearch.com.gh> wrote:
I left Nairobi this morning for Accra and trust me, the atmosphere was not good for my liking.
Sounds like you stole some Kofi Annan's negotiated-deal-making IP?;) Or it runs deep among Ghanaians?
In case you're recalled to Nairobi (by Consumers, Kictanet, Government, and the Media Owners), you won't mind if none of the protagonists comprehensively publicise your negotiated "opinion and expression peace accord" shuttle-diplomacy efforts?
Hey, I am just trying to diffuse some tensions here, you know..;)
Sincerely,
Alex
It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain. It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed. Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? David, Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public? alice (Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with) dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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All, There's a light at the end of the tunnel. K24 TV took a bold step of giving PS Ndemo an opportunity to explain the Bill and they aired that atleast 3 times yesterday. They have aired the same today. Am pleased to note that other media houses (print and electronic) were watching and some indicated their intention to go the K24 way. We should commend such a station (not because am affiliated to it)but because they took the objective step even while most other stations continued to invite opponents of the Bill only. That said, there is need to strengthen citizen journalism in Kenya to empower masses to influence those who have traditionally held power in government and the conventional media. We at Bunge SMS are trying out our bit. We also have seen Ushahidi.com do a commendable job. Many others are coming up. Let's hope no-one switches off the light at the end of the tunnel ;-) Wainaina On 12/15/08, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain.
It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed.
Edith
________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Dear Edith, We are uploading the published bill in the next one hour. It will indeed help if everybody reads it before they make any comments. I would want anybody to point any section in the published ammendment that limits press freedom. You participated in most of our early interactions and the intent on the broadcast section was very well understood - to introduce proper regulatory mechanism. My friend Kaikai wants me to prove that in the past few days media has been propagating violence. Most of you saw their plan of action which lawyers tell me amounts to serous offence. Ndemo.
It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain.
It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed.
Edith
________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Daktari, Good to hear the bill will be published online. I am a tad concerned about this statement you made; On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:37 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Sec 88 was not part of the amendments from the start and even if the President wanted to send the amendment back, it will not be possible as it was not part of the originally publeshed amendments. In my view if we want to strike out this section fast, we have to use the misleneous amendment bill. This is the only way out and it will be supported accross the isle.
If we can be pre-emptive, can we clarify exactly, what should be the next course of action because I am certain this will be taken out of context especially at parliament level. It is good to prepare people on how it will happen before others read reluctance from the state to dialogue through a technicality. Bill On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:25 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Edith, We are uploading the published bill in the next one hour. It will indeed help if everybody reads it before they make any comments. I would want anybody to point any section in the published ammendment that limits press freedom. You participated in most of our early interactions and the intent on the broadcast section was very well understood - to introduce proper regulatory mechanism.
My friend Kaikai wants me to prove that in the past few days media has been propagating violence. Most of you saw their plan of action which lawyers tell me amounts to serous offence.
Ndemo.
It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain.
It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed.
Edith
________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
Dear Dr. Ndemo and all, The Media plan of action does indeed amount to some serious offenses, not least abuse of public resources. Also agree that we need an open parliament., we can not let the media claim to speak for the public anymore. best alice bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Dear Edith, We are uploading the published bill in the next one hour. It will indeed help if everybody reads it before they make any comments. I would want anybody to point any section in the published ammendment that limits press freedom. You participated in most of our early interactions and the intent on the broadcast section was very well understood - to introduce proper regulatory mechanism.
My friend Kaikai wants me to prove that in the past few days media has been propagating violence. Most of you saw their plan of action which lawyers tell me amounts to serous offence.
Ndemo.
It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain.
It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed.
Edith
________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Dear Dr Ndemo, This is the most honable thing to do. Members need to contribute from a point of knowlewdge. Its unfortunate kenyans stand to lose the gains we have so far made. What disturbs me is that we aren't negotiating for freedom of expression- a right to all kenyans and the human race! But kenyans are being taken for granted to fight for MOA. The truth is that the same journalists are exploited n conned of their professional rights at the expense of keeping a job. All other professions cherish regulation to guarantee that individual as well as group, communities n society's are freedom and rights protected and that the quality of life is continuously being improved. Publish the entire bill to elicit unbiased n kwoledgeable debate. My own opinion. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:25:40 To: <n_macharia@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? Dear Edith, We are uploading the published bill in the next one hour. It will indeed help if everybody reads it before they make any comments. I would want anybody to point any section in the published ammendment that limits press freedom. You participated in most of our early interactions and the intent on the broadcast section was very well understood - to introduce proper regulatory mechanism. My friend Kaikai wants me to prove that in the past few days media has been propagating violence. Most of you saw their plan of action which lawyers tell me amounts to serous offence. Ndemo.
It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain.
It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed.
Edith
________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Comments from a leading Lawyer. Hi Bill, It appears that the PS may be right. There is a legal and procedural complication. Let us go through the sequence of events: 1. The Kenya Communications Act, No. 2 of 1998, was enacted in 1998. This was by the KANU government. Section 88 of the Act provides for "Powers on occurrence of emergency". This gave the Minister for Internal Security the power to take temporary possession of any telecommunication apparatus in the event of a declaration of any public emergency or in the interest of public safety and tranquillity. 2. On 18th July 2008 the Government published the Kenya Communication (Amendment) Bill, 2008 . The Memorandum of objects and reasons states that the principal object of the Bill is to make certain necessary amendments to the Kenya Communcations Act, No. 2 of 1998. The proposed amendments are to help streamline and introduce regulatory provisions in electronic transactions and broadcasting which are presently weak. An example would be to make theft of electronic data criminal as at the moment theft is only defined as the unlawful taking of goods and livestock. The Bill merely sought to bring the Act up to date with technological developments in IT and to strengthen the Act in areas where it is weak. 3. The Parliamentary Departmental Committee on Energy, Communications and Public Works considered the Bill and received representations from various parties. The Committee made recommendations for various amendments to the Bill. 4. One of the Committee's recommendations was that the Bill be amended by inserting a new clause deleting section 88 of the Act. Please note that section 88 of the Act already exists. The Bill as introduced by the Minister did not seek to delete section 88 of the Act. The Committee however proposed that deletion by seeking to amend the Bill. 5. Parliament rejected this proposed amendment of the Bill. Parliament passed the rest of the Bill as proposed by the Minister and with the other minor amendments that had been agreed. 6. The Bill shall now be forwarded to the President for his assent. 7. Section 46 of the Constitution provides that when a Bill had been passed by the National Assembly it shall be forwarded to the President for his assent. Where the President refuses to assent to a Bill he shall, within fourteen days of the refusal, submit a memorandum to the Speaker indicating the specific provisions of the Bill which in his opinion should be reconsidered by the National Assembly including his recommendations for amendments. 8. The Bill as forwarded to the President shall NOT contain the Committee's proposal to delete section 88 of the Kenya Communication Act. There shall therefore be no provision relating to section 88 in the Bill for the President to send back to Parliament. Thus it would appear that the only way to delete section 88 is to publish a miscelleneous amendment Bill. Anyway, if the intention is to delete section 88 of the Act I do not see the problem with publishing a fresh Kenya Communications (Further Amendment) Bill, 2008, to that effect. This would now be a short Bill that can be drafted within a couple of hours and published by Friday this week or even earlier. The Minister can then explain the complication relating to the President rejecting the Bill and the fact that the new Bill shall take care of section 88. I find no precedent for a Further Amendment Bill but I also find no law that prevents the publication of one. The standing orders prevent the publication of Bill for a period of six months after Parliament has rejected it. It may therefore arise as a matter in issue if a Member questions why a proposal rejected by Parliament is being brought back before six months have lapsed. But that is a debateble issue as this would not be the re-introducation of a Bill but a Further Amendment Bill. Please note that the Bill made no mention of section 88. Indeed the section has been in existence for ten years and was only receiving sporadic criticism till now. The Media took advantage of the Bill's publication to push for the deletion of section 88 and have now escalated their demand for its deletion. On 12/15/08, n_macharia@yahoo.co.uk <n_macharia@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dear Dr Ndemo, This is the most honable thing to do. Members need to contribute from a point of knowlewdge. Its unfortunate kenyans stand to lose the gains we have so far made.
What disturbs me is that we aren't negotiating for freedom of expression- a right to all kenyans and the human race! But kenyans are being taken for granted to fight for MOA. The truth is that the same journalists are exploited n conned of their professional rights at the expense of keeping a job. All other professions cherish regulation to guarantee that individual as well as group, communities n society's are freedom and rights protected and that the quality of life is continuously being improved.
Publish the entire bill to elicit unbiased n kwoledgeable debate. My own opinion. Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:25:40 To: <n_macharia@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
Dear Edith, We are uploading the published bill in the next one hour. It will indeed help if everybody reads it before they make any comments. I would want anybody to point any section in the published ammendment that limits press freedom. You participated in most of our early interactions and the intent on the broadcast section was very well understood - to introduce proper regulatory mechanism.
My friend Kaikai wants me to prove that in the past few days media has been propagating violence. Most of you saw their plan of action which lawyers tell me amounts to serous offence.
Ndemo.
It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain.
It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed.
Edith
________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
-----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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I agree with Edith, like I asked earlier, is the bill at http://www.information.go.ke/docs/DRAFT%20ICT%20BILL%202008.pdf the exact copy of what was passed in parliament? Esther/Eng Kariuki/Eng. Rege or Dr. Ndemo could confirm. But my 2cents is that there are good things coming up in the bill for the IT world. My other point is that Media Content MUST be regulated - I am just not sure if the said clauses 'over-do' as insunuated by my friend, journalism mentor and Editor D. Makali. I may only know after reading the original/gazetted copies... walu. --- On Mon, 12/15/08, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:51 AM It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain.
It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed.
Edith
________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public?
alice
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with)
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain
Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason-
I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But
Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst
Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give
Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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-----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know
that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the
to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with
more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure
signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by
2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same
and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show
unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the
fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press,
dmakali@yahoo.com wrote: that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? that it was agreed truth relating the media. Be just a little the Bill is not publicly petitioning him. headline' in all papers that the Bill is public will only be they do not want to be
seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Edith, I totally agree with you on this point. I have realized that many, even some policy makers/decision makers, are expressing their views from an un-informed position, based on no credible information. Many have not even read the Bill and rely on word of mouth or what the media says. The same thing happened to some extent with Constitution review process until many read the document on their own and it was not surprising to hear people wonder aloud where the contentious issues were according to the way they had been told. My thesis here is that key issues like these must have a popular version for the lay-people. There are many institutions who can repackage technical information to suit different publics. Nyaki ________________________________ From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> To: elizaslider@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:51:10 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? It worries me that the masses are taking sides depending on what others say, rather than to read the bill themselves. Is there a "popular version" of the bill for ordinary Kenyans? Can we get a copy of the current bill or be pointed to where the latest version can be downloaded? This information is not necessarily within the public domain. It is high time we do not leave our future in the hands of afew, but let everyone be educated about the issues at hand so they can engage from an informed standpoint - we need an OPEN parliament. We have enough digital tools to allow interaction between parliament and the governed. Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of alice [alice@apc.org] Sent: 14 December 2008 19:40 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? David, Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998 communications act. So why not present the big full picture to all and especially the public? alice (Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the organizations I am affiliated with) dmakali@yahoo.com wrote:
Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David
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David,
I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan.
The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations.
Wainaina
On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
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Dear David, Thank you for your understanding that electronic media must be regulated. At the same time, I note with disappointment that you have not read the Bill especially as it relates to content regulation. I want to make it clear and you can rea for yourself that CCK will not intevere with any content but will ask to certain content at specified times. For example that content of adult nature must be aired after prime time. And of course they would look at the manner you present the content. For example, if you are reading news and you are reporting on dead bodies, it is prudent to warn the viewers just in case they either do not want to see or they do not want their children to see. There is nothing in the bill to suggest that the Government would direct the journalist as to what can be seen. In fact the section was revised in consultation with Media. Sec 88 was not part of the amendments from the start and even if the President wanted to send the amendment back, it will not be possible as it was not part of the originally publeshed amendments. In my view if we want to strike out this section fast, we have to use the misleneous amendment bill. This is the only way out and it will be supported accross the isle. Ndemo Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: dmakali@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:27:41 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? Wainaina I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black out for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to evaluate exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the same page. Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not consider ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself to decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and ignored our views, not reasonably but glibly. I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive views about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio or tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff story frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the minister having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to raid standard. Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite govt fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial govt. Examples are many. Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice not rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow? Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and obligations? Even the principal act is beta! Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to these issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting and wailing. David Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? David, I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan. The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step. Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations. Wainaina On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
-----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a
more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
-----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all
and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when
Wainaina is right by every standard. This is a total over-reaction. The so called fourth estate in Kenya in their mindsets are untouchables even when it is so clear the scale of the mess they can cause to the Kenyan public-the same people they are claiming to be fighting for. The demonstrations on Jamhuri day, which I particpated, were not about the communications bill. Rather they were planned because of the refusal by MPs to pay tax as well as escalating prices of food. Groups were formed on facebook for those purposes. And civil societies have been in the same media calling for demonstrations but had not included communication bill as one of the reasons.The shock am still struggling to fight is how the media changed it to be a campaign for themselves. They have perfected the art of mis-informing Kenyans and wanting to get away with it. As if that is not enough, when an MP or a party like ODM comes up to disown the bill, our media gladly plays the clips to show cause why the bill is unpopular instead of hammering them for failing to attend the parliamentary sitting that passed the bill. Am feeling a bit sick about our media, however much we love them for the work they do. But the message to you our friends is that nowhere in the world are media allowed work totally uncensored. In Rwanda, the media openly told the Hutus not to let a single Tutsi escape. And it was replayed like the safaricom adverts on national radio. Media must read what is designed for any such ugly situations in that light. The bill is aout extreme cases of media irresponsibility or "states of emergency" as they have put it. If any media house know they are totally responsible citizens, let them support the bill. After all its all about their irresponsible competitors. --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote: From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? To: esmainah@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 6:53 AM David, I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan. The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step. Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations. Wainaina On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote: little papers they drench
us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a
more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
-----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all
and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when
Wainaina is right by every standard. This is a total over-reaction. The so called fourth estate in Kenya in their mindsets are untouchables even when it is so clear the scale of the mess they can cause to the Kenyan public-the same people they are claiming to be fighting for. The demonstrations on Jamhuri day, which I particpated, were not about the communications bill. Rather they were planned because of the refusal by MPs to pay tax as well as escalating prices of food. Groups were formed on facebook for those purposes. And civil societies have been in the same media calling for demonstrations but had not included communication bill as one of the reasons.The shock am still struggling to fight is how the media changed it to be a campaign for themselves. They have perfected the art of mis-informing Kenyans and wanting to get away with it. As if that is not enough, when an MP or a party like ODM comes up to disown the bill, our media gladly plays the clips to show cause why the bill is unpopular instead of hammering them for failing to attend the parliamentary sitting that passed the bill. Am feeling a bit sick about our media, however much we love them for the work they do. But the message to you our friends is that nowhere in the world are media allowed work totally uncensored. In Rwanda, the media openly told the Hutus not to let a single Tutsi escape. And it was replayed like the safaricom adverts on national radio. Media must read what is designed for any such ugly situations in that light. The bill is aout extreme cases of media irresponsibility or "states of emergency" as they have put it. If any media house know they are totally responsible citizens, let them support the bill. After all its all about their irresponsible competitors. (This is personal opinion. Sentiments expressed do not reflect those for whom I work for or work with) --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> wrote: From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? To: esmainah@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 6:53 AM David, I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan. The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step. Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations. Wainaina On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote: little papers they drench
us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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Dear Wainaina, If Media is as objective as David says, I will avail myself for a debate with whoever they select in order to help Kenyans understand these amendments. We must move from petty arguments to discussing real issues. I want to take this opportunity to thank the many jounalists who have expressed solidarity with Government to regulate electronic media. Reading through their smss and e_mails it is clear that the greatest threat to media freedom are media owners. They rightfully point out that: The KCA ammendments is not a media bill as it seeks to introduce electronic transactions and broadcast; Electronic Media world over is regulated and this is what the bill seeks to achieve: Noone should be above the law; and We must salvage our moral standing by regulating content. The rightful body that should be raising issues in this saga is the Media Council but instead it is the MOA. Just ask yourself what it is that MOA has to do with the rights of a journalist? Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting? David, I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating to the content of the Action Plan. The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is does not change much but it is not in line with the Action Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step. Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such revelations. Wainaina On 12/14/08, dmakali@yahoo.com <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put across your cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course not opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to support the bill and not been given airtime. Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed any of the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming. And we don't need to go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The worst have taken place under the current regime! You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a little more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of the media lacks foundation. David Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?
The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA) crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information & Communications".
According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given coverage.
Why?
The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result. The intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting. The strategy includes:
1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning him. 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by previous regimes. 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers and similar headlines on electronic media. 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is unconstitutional...etc etc 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching and you'll notice the biased reporting. 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President yields to the Media's agenda.
The media has the right to petition the President but the problem with their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by all possible means including excluding all those who have a different opinion.
In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation. The nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be fed with one side of the story.
Over to you. Wainaina
On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek@gmail.com> wrote:
Habari, Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But one interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to begin with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected representatives vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including that of Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand? Or is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to be seen in 'bad' light .
On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or watch on TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the majority of us have no other source of information, or do not seek other avenues of getting information, a fact very well known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they drench us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no matter how skewed their opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker! If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social, political and economic foundation, these merchants of "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a Radio Mille Collines can happen here very easily... In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial enterprises out to make a tidy profit?
Kinuthia...
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