Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
Interesting debate..but I beg to disagree with Muriuki and others who toe this thought process.....a quick google drill shows that the joke is on us. I checked randomly on some of your anticipated guests...and... 1. Ruto William Samoei Education – BSc. Hons (UON) Born – 1966 Email - info@williamrutto.com URL. www.williamrutto.com Verdict – Cannot be ICT illiterate 2. Eng. Raila Odinga Eduction - M.Sc (Mechanical Engineering), University of Magdeburg Born – 1945 Email. railaodinga@yahoo.com URL. http://www.raila2007.com/ Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate..actually used a laptop launching his vision.. 3. Najib Balala Born – 1967 Education - Business Administration Leadership, Harvard University Urban Management, University of Toronto Email – najib@mombasa.co.ke URL – www.najibbalala.net Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate. For those doing work/research..Why don't you check... - is ICT community possibly alienating itself from the rest?? -what were these chaps avoiding by evading the dabate?? -and other questions... Then you will realise that these chaps are much cleverer than we think... Bill -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Muriuki Mureithi Sent: 18 May 2007 11:55 To: Bill Kagai Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable Many thanks for the comments that have come through the list . it shows the dynamism of the ICT fraternity . The absence of the presidential aspirants talks loudly that either they are not familiar with issues , or if they are familiar they do not them consider significant at national level or they do not care. Either way we in the ICT world are proactive people and instead of castigating them let us roll our sleeves and work with them and make sure they understand the issues, the significance and why they matter. This is an on-going programme and as indicated in the debate and we shall have another session in July and hopefully the political scenario on the presidential aspirants will be clearer . For now, to determine who to invite was based on government of national unity versus the opposition as broadly perceived in the national political arena. After the party elections we shall have clarity on who to invite in the next round . The overall objective of the project is to ensure that we place the ICT agenda as campaign issue and we need to show the presidential aspirants that ICT is an national issue Muriuki Mureithi Team leader ICT mainstreaming in the Political Arena project KICTANET -- -- With Kind Regards, Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Suite B2, Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 URL. www.mediacorp.co.ke --
Which is why i submit that it is more the attitude of politicians not showing up and feel they can just go free and it is become aceeptable then ICTs. Eric here On 18 May 2007, at 14:24, Bill Kagai wrote:
Interesting debate..but I beg to disagree with Muriuki and others who toe this thought process.....a quick google drill shows that the joke is on us. I checked randomly on some of your anticipated guests...and...
1. Ruto William Samoei Education – BSc. Hons (UON) Born – 1966 Email - info@williamrutto.com URL. www.williamrutto.com
Verdict – Cannot be ICT illiterate
2. Eng. Raila Odinga Eduction - M.Sc (Mechanical Engineering), University of Magdeburg Born – 1945 Email. railaodinga@yahoo.com URL. http://www.raila2007.com/
Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate..actually used a laptop launching his vision..
3. Najib Balala Born – 1967 Education - Business Administration Leadership, Harvard University Urban Management, University of Toronto Email – najib@mombasa.co.ke URL – www.najibbalala.net
Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate.
For those doing work/research..Why don't you check... - is ICT community possibly alienating itself from the rest?? -what were these chaps avoiding by evading the dabate?? -and other questions...
Then you will realise that these chaps are much cleverer than we think...
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Muriuki Mureithi Sent: 18 May 2007 11:55 To: Bill Kagai Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
Many thanks for the comments that have come through the list . it shows the dynamism of the ICT fraternity .
The absence of the presidential aspirants talks loudly that either they are not familiar with issues , or if they are familiar they do not them consider significant at national level or they do not care. Either way we in the ICT world are proactive people and instead of castigating them let us roll our sleeves and work with them and make sure they understand the issues, the significance and why they matter.
This is an on-going programme and as indicated in the debate and we shall have another session in July and hopefully the political scenario on the presidential aspirants will be clearer . For now, to determine who to invite was based on government of national unity versus the opposition as broadly perceived in the national political arena. After the party elections we shall have clarity on who to invite in the next round .
The overall objective of the project is to ensure that we place the ICT agenda as campaign issue and we need to show the presidential aspirants that ICT is an national issue
Muriuki Mureithi Team leader ICT mainstreaming in the Political Arena project KICTANET
-- -- With Kind Regards, Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Suite B2, Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 URL. www.mediacorp.co.ke --
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Thanks Bill, I found websites for hon. Julia Ojiambo, hon. William Ruto, hon. Kalonzo Musyoka, hon. Raila Odinga, hon. Najib Balala, hon. Uhuru Kenyatta but did not succeed for hon. Musalia Mudavadi, hon. Joseph Nyaga, and Nazlin Umar. I deliberataly avoided looking for hon. Mutahi Kagwe's website. Noticeably, Uhuru Kenyatta is ".ke" and registered his domain in May 2005. The others have dot coms and dot net. The oldest was created in June and two were registered two days apart in September last year. <http://www.kenic.or.ke/cgi-bin/kenic/whois> domain: UHURUKENYATTA.CO.KE created: 2006/05/05 changed: 2007/05/10 expiry: 2008/05/05 from <http://www.whois.net/> Domain Name: RAILA2007.COM Updated Date: 15-nov-2006 Creation Date: 12-jun-2006 Expiration Date: 12-jun-2008 Domain Name: WILLIAMRUTTO.COM Updated Date: 20-nov-2006 Creation Date: 01-sep-2006 Expiration Date: 01-sep-2007 Domain Name: KALONZOMUSYOKAFORPRESIDENT.COM Updated Date: 16-feb-2007 Creation Date: 03-sep-2006 Expiration Date: 03-sep-2007 Domain Name: ELECTJULIA.COM <http://electjulia.com/> Updated Date: 14-feb-2007 Creation Date: 01-feb-2007 Expiration Date: 01-feb-2009 Domain Name: NAJIBBALALA.NET Updated Date: 14-mar-2007 Creation Date: 14-mar-2007 Expiration Date: 14-mar-2008 It was quite interesting, thanks. Alex On 5/18/07, Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote:
Interesting debate..but I beg to disagree with Muriuki and others who toe this thought process.....a quick google drill shows that the joke is on us. I checked randomly on some of your anticipated guests...and...
1. Ruto William Samoei Education – BSc. Hons (UON) Born – 1966 Email - info@williamrutto.com URL. www.williamrutto.com
Verdict – Cannot be ICT illiterate
2. Eng. Raila Odinga Eduction - M.Sc (Mechanical Engineering), University of Magdeburg Born – 1945 Email. railaodinga@yahoo.com URL. http://www.raila2007.com/
Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate..actually used a laptop launching his vision..
3. Najib Balala Born – 1967 Education - Business Administration Leadership, Harvard University Urban Management, University of Toronto Email – najib@mombasa.co.ke URL – www.najibbalala.net
Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate.
For those doing work/research..Why don't you check... - is ICT community possibly alienating itself from the rest?? -what were these chaps avoiding by evading the dabate?? -and other questions...
Then you will realise that these chaps are much cleverer than we think...
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Muriuki Mureithi Sent: 18 May 2007 11:55 To: Bill Kagai Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
Many thanks for the comments that have come through the list . it shows the dynamism of the ICT fraternity .
The absence of the presidential aspirants talks loudly that either they are not familiar with issues , or if they are familiar they do not them consider significant at national level or they do not care. Either way we in the ICT world are proactive people and instead of castigating them let us roll our sleeves and work with them and make sure they understand the issues, the significance and why they matter.
This is an on-going programme and as indicated in the debate and we shall have another session in July and hopefully the political scenario on the presidential aspirants will be clearer . For now, to determine who to invite was based on government of national unity versus the opposition as broadly perceived in the national political arena. After the party elections we shall have clarity on who to invite in the next round .
The overall objective of the project is to ensure that we place the ICT agenda as campaign issue and we need to show the presidential aspirants that ICT is an national issue
Muriuki Mureithi Team leader ICT mainstreaming in the Political Arena project KICTANET
-- -- With Kind Regards, Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Suite B2, Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 URL. www.mediacorp.co.ke --
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William Ruto website was working fine..when I bumped into it this morning..now it has been re-directed to the KACC website... No wonder these guys are avoiding ICT foras. Any slightly distorted media can cost them jobs... I see a dialogue entry point..by collectively working together with the August house members to sort out this persistent website beef they have had to keep with....from Kalonzo Musyoka and now to Ruto.. I would not touch ICTs with ten yard pole if I were a politician...I can say... Bill On 5/18/07, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Bill,
I found websites for hon. Julia Ojiambo, hon. William Ruto, hon. Kalonzo Musyoka, hon. Raila Odinga, hon. Najib Balala, hon. Uhuru Kenyatta but did not succeed for hon. Musalia Mudavadi, hon. Joseph Nyaga, and Nazlin Umar. I deliberataly avoided looking for hon. Mutahi Kagwe's website.
Noticeably, Uhuru Kenyatta is ".ke" and registered his domain in May 2005. The others have dot coms and dot net. The oldest was created in June and two were registered two days apart in September last year.
<http://www.kenic.or.ke/cgi-bin/kenic/whois>
domain: UHURUKENYATTA.CO.KE created: 2006/05/05 changed: 2007/05/10 expiry: 2008/05/05
from <http://www.whois.net/>
Domain Name: RAILA2007.COM Updated Date: 15-nov-2006 Creation Date: 12-jun-2006 Expiration Date: 12-jun-2008
Domain Name: WILLIAMRUTTO.COM Updated Date: 20-nov-2006 Creation Date: 01-sep-2006 Expiration Date: 01-sep-2007
Domain Name: KALONZOMUSYOKAFORPRESIDENT.COM Updated Date: 16-feb-2007 Creation Date: 03-sep-2006 Expiration Date: 03-sep-2007
Domain Name: ELECTJULIA.COM <http://electjulia.com/> Updated Date: 14-feb-2007 Creation Date: 01-feb-2007 Expiration Date: 01-feb-2009
Domain Name: NAJIBBALALA.NET Updated Date: 14-mar-2007 Creation Date: 14-mar-2007 Expiration Date: 14-mar-2008
It was quite interesting, thanks.
Alex
On 5/18/07, Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research@mediacorp.co.ke> wrote:
Interesting debate..but I beg to disagree with Muriuki and others who toe this thought process.....a quick google drill shows that the joke is on us. I checked randomly on some of your anticipated guests...and...
1. Ruto William Samoei Education – BSc. Hons (UON) Born – 1966 Email - info@williamrutto.com URL. www.williamrutto.com
Verdict – Cannot be ICT illiterate
2. Eng. Raila Odinga Eduction - M.Sc (Mechanical Engineering), University of Magdeburg Born – 1945 Email. railaodinga@yahoo.com URL. http://www.raila2007.com/
Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate..actually used a laptop launching his vision..
3. Najib Balala Born – 1967 Education - Business Administration Leadership, Harvard University Urban Management, University of Toronto Email – najib@mombasa.co.ke URL – www.najibbalala.net
Verdict – Also not ICT illiterate.
For those doing work/research..Why don't you check... - is ICT community possibly alienating itself from the rest?? -what were these chaps avoiding by evading the dabate?? -and other questions...
Then you will realise that these chaps are much cleverer than we think...
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+research= mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+research=mediacorp.co.ke@kictanet.or.ke ] On Behalf Of Muriuki Mureithi Sent: 18 May 2007 11:55 To: Bill Kagai Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
Many thanks for the comments that have come through the list . it shows the dynamism of the ICT fraternity .
The absence of the presidential aspirants talks loudly that either they are not familiar with issues , or if they are familiar they do not them consider significant at national level or they do not care. Either way we in the ICT world are proactive people and instead of castigating them let us roll our sleeves and work with them and make sure they understand the issues, the significance and why they matter.
This is an on-going programme and as indicated in the debate and we shall have another session in July and hopefully the political scenario on the
presidential aspirants will be clearer . For now, to determine who to invite was based on government of national unity versus the opposition as broadly perceived in the national political arena. After the party elections we shall have clarity on who to invite in the next round .
The overall objective of the project is to ensure that we place the ICT agenda as campaign issue and we need to show the presidential aspirants that ICT is an national issue
Muriuki Mureithi Team leader ICT mainstreaming in the Political Arena project KICTANET
-- -- With Kind Regards, Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Suite B2, Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 URL. www.mediacorp.co.ke --
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