KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA. The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF. (2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services. (5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine. The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage. What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill? Warm Regards ______________________
Dear Kivuva, I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests. Regards On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
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Thank you Barrack, In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research." Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget? See my response inline, for your other initial remarks. On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
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Hi Kivuva, 10 percent is too much. Since i dont have a good background of how the 10% was arrived at, i proposed it be reduced to 5 %. The other 5 % can go to Capacity Building and R and D. On a separate note, i guess parliament only has money for waheshimiwas to visit the constituency ;-) i bet the budget is not enough for Capacity Building. On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 11:32 pm Mwendwa Kivuva, <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Thank you Barrack,
In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research."
Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget?
See my response inline, for your other initial remarks.
On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
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Mwendwa, USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about *watu wangu* or *kwetu. *I shared an *analysis * <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing>earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be *AGAIN *marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them! Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking. Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for *pishori *we need to make this *biriani *(aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake. THK On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you Barrack,
In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research."
Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget?
See my response inline, for your other initial remarks.
On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
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Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume. Regards On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Mwendwa,
USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about *watu wangu* or *kwetu. *I shared an *analysis * <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing>earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be *AGAIN *marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them!
Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking.
Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for *pishori *we need to make this *biriani *(aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake.
THK
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you Barrack,
In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research."
Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget?
See my response inline, for your other initial remarks.
On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
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My opinion would be that a law should not prescribe how the USF should be spent; instead the USF Advisory Council should be more representative of both industry and beneficiaries to give better suggestions on how the money should be spent both in terms of focus areas, as well as in terms of implementation approach (and maybe it needs more power to direct the purpose of the funds rather than just advise). It is also crucial to have stronger representation and engagement by ICT Authority, and maybe even Transport Authorities etc to have better synergies. It shouldn’t be that one funds 1.2m devices to primary schools, yet no-one funds internet to a single one of those schools. There should be a lot more transparency on what is discussed and decided in those meetings and how the USF is spent; the CA’s quarterly statistics are the perfect opportunity to also share on progress of how many places have been connected, and how many people have been using the network/services. No need to wait for annual reports nowadays. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno via kictanet Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:08 AM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume. Regards On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Mwendwa, USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about watu wangu or kwetu. I shared an analysis <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing> earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be AGAIN marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them! Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking. Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for pishori we need to make this biriani (aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake. THK On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Thank you Barrack, In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research." Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget? See my response inline, for your other initial remarks. On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Kivuva, I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests. This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m. Regards On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA. The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF. (2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services. (5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine. The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage. What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill? 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Morning Kivuva, Unfortunately I am on the other end of @Adam’s POV. The law must prescribe in the narrowest terms possible the uses USF should be put to. I am reminded of a recent order from the President that the USF funds be appropriated to fight cybercrime since the funds are idle. Secondly, I am quite uncomfortable with expanding the uses of the USF when we have no evidence that we have finally achieved 100% penetration levels. The amendment should be tailored towards demanding more transparency from the Authority, tightening reporting standards and returns to Parliament. Proposals on appropriating USF for capacity building especially for Members of Parliament- I would also oppose those strongly. CAK has other sources of funds besides USF - those can be appropriated for those other purposes. Let’s dedicate USF to its original purpose until everyone is online. Then we can talk about other extra-curricula activities. On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 09:10, Adam Lane via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My opinion would be that a law should not prescribe how the USF should be spent; instead the USF Advisory Council should be more representative of both industry and beneficiaries to give better suggestions on how the money should be spent both in terms of focus areas, as well as in terms of implementation approach (and maybe it needs more power to direct the purpose of the funds rather than just advise). It is also crucial to have stronger representation and engagement by ICT Authority, and maybe even Transport Authorities etc to have better synergies. It shouldn’t be that one funds 1.2m devices to primary schools, yet no-one funds internet to a single one of those schools.
There should be a lot more transparency on what is discussed and decided in those meetings and how the USF is spent; the CA’s quarterly statistics are the perfect opportunity to also share on progress of how many places have been connected, and how many people have been using the network/services. No need to wait for annual reports nowadays.
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane= huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 8:08 AM *To:* Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting
Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume.
Regards
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Mwendwa,
USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about *watu wangu* or *kwetu. *I shared an *analysis * <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing>earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be *AGAIN *marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them!
Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking.
Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for *pishori *we need to make this *biriani *(aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake.
THK
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you Barrack,
In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research."
Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget?
See my response inline, for your other initial remarks.
On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to
a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers;
b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
Warm Regards
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Spot on Kanini regards barry
On 25 Oct 2019, at 09:42, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Morning Kivuva,
Unfortunately I am on the other end of @Adam’s POV. The law must prescribe in the narrowest terms possible the uses USF should be put to. I am reminded of a recent order from the President that the USF funds be appropriated to fight cybercrime since the funds are idle.
Secondly, I am quite uncomfortable with expanding the uses of the USF when we have no evidence that we have finally achieved 100% penetration levels. The amendment should be tailored towards demanding more transparency from the Authority, tightening reporting standards and returns to Parliament.
Proposals on appropriating USF for capacity building especially for Members of Parliament- I would also oppose those strongly. CAK has other sources of funds besides USF - those can be appropriated for those other purposes. Let’s dedicate USF to its original purpose until everyone is online. Then we can talk about other extra-curricula activities.
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 09:10, Adam Lane via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: My opinion would be that a law should not prescribe how the USF should be spent; instead the USF Advisory Council should be more representative of both industry and beneficiaries to give better suggestions on how the money should be spent both in terms of focus areas, as well as in terms of implementation approach (and maybe it needs more power to direct the purpose of the funds rather than just advise). It is also crucial to have stronger representation and engagement by ICT Authority, and maybe even Transport Authorities etc to have better synergies. It shouldn’t be that one funds 1.2m devices to primary schools, yet no-one funds internet to a single one of those schools.
There should be a lot more transparency on what is discussed and decided in those meetings and how the USF is spent; the CA’s quarterly statistics are the perfect opportunity to also share on progress of how many places have been connected, and how many people have been using the network/services. No need to wait for annual reports nowadays.
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Badam.lane>=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno via kictanet Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:08 AM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com <mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com>> Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com <mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting
Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume.
Regards
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Mwendwa,
USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about watu wangu or kwetu. I shared an analysis <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing>earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be AGAIN marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them!
Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking.
Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for pishori we need to make this biriani (aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake.
THK
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Thank you Barrack,
In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research."
Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget?
See my response inline, for your other initial remarks.
On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com <mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to
a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers;
b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
Warm Regards
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I have come across a detailed brief <https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Universal-Service-Fund-Framework.pdf> on the USF from the CA that's worth a read. Regards, *Victor Kapiyo* Partner | *Lawmark Partners LLP* *Suite No. 8, Centro House, Westlands, Nairobi | **Web: www.lawmark.co.ke <http://www.lawmark.co.ke> * ==================================================== *“Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig Ziglar* On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 10:27, Barry Macharia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Spot on Kanini
regards barry
On 25 Oct 2019, at 09:42, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Morning Kivuva,
Unfortunately I am on the other end of @Adam’s POV. The law must prescribe in the narrowest terms possible the uses USF should be put to. I am reminded of a recent order from the President that the USF funds be appropriated to fight cybercrime since the funds are idle.
Secondly, I am quite uncomfortable with expanding the uses of the USF when we have no evidence that we have finally achieved 100% penetration levels. The amendment should be tailored towards demanding more transparency from the Authority, tightening reporting standards and returns to Parliament.
Proposals on appropriating USF for capacity building especially for Members of Parliament- I would also oppose those strongly. CAK has other sources of funds besides USF - those can be appropriated for those other purposes. Let’s dedicate USF to its original purpose until everyone is online. Then we can talk about other extra-curricula activities.
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 09:10, Adam Lane via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My opinion would be that a law should not prescribe how the USF should be spent; instead the USF Advisory Council should be more representative of both industry and beneficiaries to give better suggestions on how the money should be spent both in terms of focus areas, as well as in terms of implementation approach (and maybe it needs more power to direct the purpose of the funds rather than just advise). It is also crucial to have stronger representation and engagement by ICT Authority, and maybe even Transport Authorities etc to have better synergies. It shouldn’t be that one funds 1.2m devices to primary schools, yet no-one funds internet to a single one of those schools.
There should be a lot more transparency on what is discussed and decided in those meetings and how the USF is spent; the CA’s quarterly statistics are the perfect opportunity to also share on progress of how many places have been connected, and how many people have been using the network/services. No need to wait for annual reports nowadays.
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane= huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 8:08 AM *To:* Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting
Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume.
Regards
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Mwendwa,
USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about *watu wangu* or *kwetu. *I shared an *analysis * <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing>earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be *AGAIN *marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them!
Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking.
Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for *pishori *we need to make this *biriani *(aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake.
THK
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you Barrack,
In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research."
Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget?
See my response inline, for your other initial remarks.
On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to
a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers;
b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
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Well summarised Mercy Regards Best regards Barrack Otieno On Friday, 25-10-2019 at 10:25 Barry Macharia via kictanet wrote: Spot on Kanini regards barry On 25 Oct 2019, at 09:42, kanini mutemi via kictanet wrote: Morning Kivuva, Unfortunately I am on the other end of @Adam’s POV. The law must prescribe in the narrowest terms possible the uses USF should be put to. I am reminded of a recent order from the President that the USF funds be appropriated to fight cybercrime since the funds are idle. Secondly, I am quite uncomfortable with expanding the uses of the USF when we have no evidence that we have finally achieved 100% penetration levels. The amendment should be tailored towards demanding more transparency from the Authority, tightening reporting standards and returns to Parliament. Proposals on appropriating USF for capacity building especially for Members of Parliament- I would also oppose those strongly. CAK has other sources of funds besides USF - those can be appropriated for those other purposes. Let’s dedicate USF to its original purpose until everyone is online. Then we can talk about other extra-curricula activities. On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 09:10, Adam Lane via kictanet wrote: My opinion would be that a law should not prescribe how the USF should be spent; instead the USF Advisory Council should be more representative of both industry and beneficiaries to give better suggestions on how the money should be spent both in terms of focus areas, as well as in terms of implementation approach (and maybe it needs more power to direct the purpose of the funds rather than just advise). It is also crucial to have stronger representation and engagement by ICT Authority, and maybe even Transport Authorities etc to have better synergies. It shouldn’t be that one funds 1.2m devices to primary schools, yet no-one funds internet to a single one of those schools. There should be a lot more transparency on what is discussed and decided in those meetings and how the USF is spent; the CA’s quarterly statistics are the perfect opportunity to also share on progress of how many places have been connected, and how many people have been using the network/services. No need to wait for annual reports nowadays. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane [1]=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno via kictanet Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:08 AM To: Adam Lane Cc: Barrack Otieno Subject: Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume. Regards On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet wrote: Mwendwa, USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about _watu wangu_ or _kwetu. _I shared an analysis [2]earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be AGAIN marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them! Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking. Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for _pishori _we need to make this _biriani _(aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake. THK On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: Thank you Barrack, In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research." Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget? See my response inline, for your other initial remarks. On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno wrote: Dear Kivuva, I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests. This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m. Regards On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, wrote: This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA. The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF. (2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services. (5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine. The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage. What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill? 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@kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> 100% We have seen how the USF is currently being spent or not being spent. In the abssence of transparency and uncertainty on how those billions need to be apportioned the law needs to check-in. I understand where Adam is coming from but we can always change the law. Probably better than to leave it to the vagaries of people who may or may not have the interest of the country at heart. Not that we have much confidence in the lawmakers anyway... It's the lesser of two evils I guess. Regards *Ali Hussein* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 9:43 AM kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Morning Kivuva,
Unfortunately I am on the other end of @Adam’s POV. The law must prescribe in the narrowest terms possible the uses USF should be put to. I am reminded of a recent order from the President that the USF funds be appropriated to fight cybercrime since the funds are idle.
Secondly, I am quite uncomfortable with expanding the uses of the USF when we have no evidence that we have finally achieved 100% penetration levels. The amendment should be tailored towards demanding more transparency from the Authority, tightening reporting standards and returns to Parliament.
Proposals on appropriating USF for capacity building especially for Members of Parliament- I would also oppose those strongly. CAK has other sources of funds besides USF - those can be appropriated for those other purposes. Let’s dedicate USF to its original purpose until everyone is online. Then we can talk about other extra-curricula activities.
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 09:10, Adam Lane via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My opinion would be that a law should not prescribe how the USF should be spent; instead the USF Advisory Council should be more representative of both industry and beneficiaries to give better suggestions on how the money should be spent both in terms of focus areas, as well as in terms of implementation approach (and maybe it needs more power to direct the purpose of the funds rather than just advise). It is also crucial to have stronger representation and engagement by ICT Authority, and maybe even Transport Authorities etc to have better synergies. It shouldn’t be that one funds 1.2m devices to primary schools, yet no-one funds internet to a single one of those schools.
There should be a lot more transparency on what is discussed and decided in those meetings and how the USF is spent; the CA’s quarterly statistics are the perfect opportunity to also share on progress of how many places have been connected, and how many people have been using the network/services. No need to wait for annual reports nowadays.
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane= huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 8:08 AM *To:* Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting
Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume.
Regards
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Mwendwa,
USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about *watu wangu* or *kwetu. *I shared an *analysis * <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing>earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be *AGAIN *marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them!
Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking.
Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for *pishori *we need to make this *biriani *(aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake.
THK
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you Barrack,
In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research."
Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget?
See my response inline, for your other initial remarks.
On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to
a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers;
b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
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@Kanini ery well articulated! Hats off to you! @Adam, while I tend to agree to some point your POV, we as a people are very cunning. Given a *blank signed cheque* situation as is USF, we need to clamp it down with legislation, policies and procedures PLUS MONITORING & EVALUATION. Otherwise as it stands the ISF funds are seen as idle YET so much remains to be done - THE RIGHT WAY. On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 9:44 AM kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Morning Kivuva,
Unfortunately I am on the other end of @Adam’s POV. The law must prescribe in the narrowest terms possible the uses USF should be put to. I am reminded of a recent order from the President that the USF funds be appropriated to fight cybercrime since the funds are idle.
Secondly, I am quite uncomfortable with expanding the uses of the USF when we have no evidence that we have finally achieved 100% penetration levels. The amendment should be tailored towards demanding more transparency from the Authority, tightening reporting standards and returns to Parliament.
Proposals on appropriating USF for capacity building especially for Members of Parliament- I would also oppose those strongly. CAK has other sources of funds besides USF - those can be appropriated for those other purposes. Let’s dedicate USF to its original purpose until everyone is online. Then we can talk about other extra-curricula activities.
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 09:10, Adam Lane via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My opinion would be that a law should not prescribe how the USF should be spent; instead the USF Advisory Council should be more representative of both industry and beneficiaries to give better suggestions on how the money should be spent both in terms of focus areas, as well as in terms of implementation approach (and maybe it needs more power to direct the purpose of the funds rather than just advise). It is also crucial to have stronger representation and engagement by ICT Authority, and maybe even Transport Authorities etc to have better synergies. It shouldn’t be that one funds 1.2m devices to primary schools, yet no-one funds internet to a single one of those schools.
There should be a lot more transparency on what is discussed and decided in those meetings and how the USF is spent; the CA’s quarterly statistics are the perfect opportunity to also share on progress of how many places have been connected, and how many people have been using the network/services. No need to wait for annual reports nowadays.
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane= huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 8:08 AM *To:* Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting
Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume.
Regards
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Mwendwa,
USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about *watu wangu* or *kwetu. *I shared an *analysis * <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing>earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be *AGAIN *marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them!
Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking.
Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for *pishori *we need to make this *biriani *(aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake.
THK
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you Barrack,
In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research."
Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget?
See my response inline, for your other initial remarks.
On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Kivuva,
I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests.
This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m.
Regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA.
The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF.
(2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to
a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers;
b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services.
(5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine.
The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage.
What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill?
Warm Regards
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Fair enough on being more prescriptive as it seems there is a lack of trust, that more transparency could certainly help with! From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 10:54 AM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com> Cc: Twahir Hussein Kassim <twahir@hussein.me.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting @Kanini ery well articulated! Hats off to you! @Adam, while I tend to agree to some point your POV, we as a people are very cunning. Given a blank signed cheque situation as is USF, we need to clamp it down with legislation, policies and procedures PLUS MONITORING & EVALUATION. Otherwise as it stands the ISF funds are seen as idle YET so much remains to be done - THE RIGHT WAY. On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 9:44 AM kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Morning Kivuva, Unfortunately I am on the other end of @Adam’s POV. The law must prescribe in the narrowest terms possible the uses USF should be put to. I am reminded of a recent order from the President that the USF funds be appropriated to fight cybercrime since the funds are idle. Secondly, I am quite uncomfortable with expanding the uses of the USF when we have no evidence that we have finally achieved 100% penetration levels. The amendment should be tailored towards demanding more transparency from the Authority, tightening reporting standards and returns to Parliament. Proposals on appropriating USF for capacity building especially for Members of Parliament- I would also oppose those strongly. CAK has other sources of funds besides USF - those can be appropriated for those other purposes. Let’s dedicate USF to its original purpose until everyone is online. Then we can talk about other extra-curricula activities. On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 09:10, Adam Lane via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: My opinion would be that a law should not prescribe how the USF should be spent; instead the USF Advisory Council should be more representative of both industry and beneficiaries to give better suggestions on how the money should be spent both in terms of focus areas, as well as in terms of implementation approach (and maybe it needs more power to direct the purpose of the funds rather than just advise). It is also crucial to have stronger representation and engagement by ICT Authority, and maybe even Transport Authorities etc to have better synergies. It shouldn’t be that one funds 1.2m devices to primary schools, yet no-one funds internet to a single one of those schools. There should be a lot more transparency on what is discussed and decided in those meetings and how the USF is spent; the CA’s quarterly statistics are the perfect opportunity to also share on progress of how many places have been connected, and how many people have been using the network/services. No need to wait for annual reports nowadays. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Badam.lane>=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno via kictanet Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:08 AM To: Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com<mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com>> Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendments: Universal Service Fund use and reporting Well said Twahir. That is why i have a problem with 10% of 18 billion being allocated to Miscellaneous expenses. Ongeza Volume. Regards On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:03 AM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Mwendwa, USF is a good idea BUT unfortunately as we know things Kenyan; are about watu wangu or kwetu. I shared an analysis <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzvbBqyDi9Mv-pu6c5bVDm1wYVJM-O1COJvj9mG7K5Q/edit?usp=sharing> earlier on how skewed the beneficiaries list was. If there was to be any sense on legislating on this then I think legislating on how beneficiaries are selected should be the thing. The very purpose of this fund was to ensure areas where it didn't make economic sense for telcos, were covered. Seriously, what justification can we give to see areas that have perennially been marginalised be AGAIN marginalised on what had sort to level the ground for them. To name just a few counties with their allocations against their area (km2); Turkana (0 for an area 71,598km2), Narok (2 for an area 17,921km2 ), Tana River (2 for an area 35,376km2) compared against Machakos (69 for an area 5,953km2) and Kakamega (40 for an area 3,034km2). It is baffling! And to say that schools in the area were not e-ready I think is not a palatable excuse! The fund should have sort to e-ready them! Seriously as an Kenyan, I am ANGRY at what is there on the ground. Have been visiting institutions over the past few days and what I see is to say the least very heart breaking. Sincerity to the people we serve is the much sort for pishori we need to make this biriani (aka inclusivity) that we so badly need to partake. THK On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:35 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Thank you Barrack, In another thread, you said "part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research." Why would you propose the USF to be raided, while Parliament has its own budget? See my response inline, for your other initial remarks. On Thursday, 24 October 2019, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Kivuva, I think only 5% should be used to fund other objectives of the fund 10 % for miscelleanous in a budget is extraneous. There are many interests salivating for the fund as we have observed in the recent past. The objective of the USF is very clear and the fund should be used to fullfill this fund. CA has whole department that can address quality control issues hence we don't need to legislate this. I think Parliament should not be misused by selfish interests. This is a very good observation, let QoS issues be budgeted and handled within main CA budget. But how do you arrive at the 5% to fund other objectives? You can imagine 5% of Ksh10B is Ksh500m. Regards On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 4:38 pm Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet, <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: This is a continuation of the discusion on the proposed amendment of KICA. The new amendments to KICA proposed by Hon. Elisha Odhiambo, MP, published on March 15th, 2019, seeks to substitute sub-section (2) of section 84J that deals with Universal Service Fund (USF), with Communications Authority (CA) mandated to provide annual reports to parliament on the utilisation of the USF. (2) The object and purpose of the Fund shall be to a) promote the availability of quality of service at just, reasonable and affordable rates for all consumers; b) increase nationwide access to advanced telecommunications services; c) advance the availability of such services to all consumers, including those in low income, and rural areas; d) increase access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries and rural health care facilities; e) provide equitable and non-discriminatory contribution from all providers of telecommunications services to the fund supporting universal service programs; and f) support capacity building and promote innovation in information and communications technology services. (5) The USF shall be utilised by the Commission as follows a) 6% shall be used for ensuring the availability of telecommunications services to all consumers, including those in low income and rural areas; b) 20% shall be used for increasing access to telecommunications and advanced services in schools, libraries, and rural health care facilities. c)10% shall be used for furthering the other objectives of the Fund as the Commission may determine. The rationale of the bill is to prescribe how the USF is used and make it mandatory for CA to report annually on its usage. What are your thoughts on this new amendment? Does it cover all use-cases for USF e.g courier and news services? Are there other considerations you would want to be included in the bill? 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participants (9)
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Adam Lane -
Ali Hussein -
Barrack Otieno -
Barrack Otieno -
Barry Macharia -
kanini mutemi -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
Twahir Hussein Kassim -
Victor Kapiyo