Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation
Warm greetings! I try to reconcile this "love-hate relationship with Government". Private companies that are not even Kenyan for our esteemed national laws to apply to them who are providers of solutions used by the public have all this personal information. They may choose to transpose it into data. Use it for data analytics and profit from it, with occasional leakage. Yet the hue and cry and backlash e.g data privacy demands etc is not evidenced as much. Would this mean that they are trusted more, are our friends more or cannot be reached at? Considering the widespread and increased usage of technology/tools, it warrants how to enhance trusted relations with Governments. Because Governments will always perform their function - so how does it look like in the tech age? Blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Friday, 17 February 2017, 11:07, Rapudo Hawi via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers, It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010. The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner, Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert Telephone: +254 720975498 Twitter: rapudohawi Sykpe: rapudo.hawi Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/hawirapudoblog On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers, There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly. Best regards | Christopher Wambua | | Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs | | | | | Tel: +254 20 4242000/209Mobile: +254 703 042209/ +254 730172209 | | P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 | | | | wambua@ca.go.ke Communications Authority of Kenya ca_kenya www.ca.go.ke | | | | Disclaimer: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use by the individual(s) or entity to whom?it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action ?in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Additionally, if you have received this email in error please notify the sender ?immediately by a reply e-mail. | | | From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca. go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Date: Friday, February 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM To: Christoper Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>, ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear... CA, please help us understand this... Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin. com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote: But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.Read on:-http://www.nation.co.ke/news/G overnment-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/ index.html Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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Hi Wangari, Yup, we don't trust the government as much as we do private companies. A company has a strong profit motive, and right now that motive aligns, mostly, with user privacy. When they don't we have freaked out, remember FB... Governments on the other hand have only two motives; staying in power and controlling their citizens and a lot of times those motives don't align with privacy On 18 Feb 2017 06:48, "WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Warm greetings!
I try to reconcile this "love-hate relationship with Government".
Private companies that are not even Kenyan for our esteemed national laws to apply to them who are providers of solutions used by the public have all this personal information. They may choose to transpose it into data. Use it for data analytics and profit from it, with occasional leakage. Yet the hue and cry and backlash e.g data privacy demands etc is not evidenced as much. Would this mean that they are trusted more, are our friends more or cannot be reached at?
Considering the widespread and increased usage of technology/tools, it warrants how to enhance trusted relations with Governments. Because Governments will always perform their function - so how does it look like in the tech age?
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
On Friday, 17 February 2017, 11:07, Rapudo Hawi via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010.
The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security
Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner,
Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert
*Telephone:* +254 720975498
*Twitter:* rapudohawi
*Sykpe:* rapudo.hawi
*Linkedin: *www.linkedin.com/in/hawirapudoblog
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly.
Best regards
*Christopher Wambua* Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
Tel: +254 20 4242000/209 Mobile: +254 703 042209/ +254 730172209 P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation
What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear...
CA, please help us understand this...
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin. com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions. The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers. Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/G overnment-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/ index.html <http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phone-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html>
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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