Re: [kictanet] Cable issues -Facility Sharing
I can agree more with Noor, In the recently concluded AITEC fiber summit conference at Laico, I tried to advance this philosophy and was accused of advancing a big brother concept. Shared service will help utilize the economies of scale to reach many with the infrastructure without replicating. It is indeed unfortunate that you have several players each with parallel cables of underutilized capacity. The investment could otherwise be extended to cover more areas in a scalable manner. When we players start talking to each other and sell and buy capacity to each other? Does CCK has a role to play?
Evans
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Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition sabotaging will reduce. We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable network to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts on their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to
Hi, Just to share some information on this subject. The ICT Policy in Section 5.10 envisages sharing and states as follows: " 5.10 Facility Sharing The Government will promote sharing of natural sites,physical infrastructure and co-location of ICT facilities by licensed operators." Eng.J.N.Kariuki --- On Mon, 9/11/09, Al Kags <alkags@alkags.com> wrote: From: Al Kags <alkags@alkags.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Monday, 9 November, 2009, 10:59 As I recall, this is a discussion that has gone on for close to a decade now if not more. For years, the discussion about say, the mobile providers sharing infrastructure has been ongoing unfruitfully. Now we have advanced it to cable and we are still talking about it. I was wondering why KPLC would be trying to invest I their own cable with NOFBI and KDN so well covering parts of Kenya... Why not invest further in them by providing real estate (their poles) and finance so we can then get a KPLC cable-to-the-home product instead? Surely its more cost effective? On this, I do think CCK lead more prominently and they should be seen to lead on the matter... Today, the discussion is vandalism... Tomorrow looms the more compelling discussion about how we are addressing ourselves to climate change with all this duplication. We have been warned.. -----Original Message----- From: godera@skyweb.co.ke Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:23:28 To: <alkags@alkags.com> Cc: <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Well said Evans. In my view, if all players were sharing the infrastructure, no one would be complaining of being sabotaged. They would all focus their energies if at all vandalism takes place on uniting to put an end to the vandalism, rather than the current scenario. Gilda Odera Quoting "Evans J. Nyagah" <ejnyagah@Telkom.co.ke>: this communities.
If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could be building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all interested providers. With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities,
Concerned,frustrated
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It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor ..
Frustrated
Kai
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What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side.
Kind regards
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300 From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <484601ca5f15$ae77f710$0b67e530$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people doing it we would not know the motives.
The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who
was
not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants (happens very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal).
Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the cable.
Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know.
Kai
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In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in disruption of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial sabotage.
Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage.
This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four hours, they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi.
Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined?
Jevans
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Engineer Kariuki, The ICT Policy in Section 5.10 envisages sharing and states as follows: " 5.10 Facility Sharing The Government will *promote* sharing of natural sites,physical infrastructure and co-location of ICT facilities by licensed operators." Sorry for taking the discussion backwards maybe the word *promote *should be replaced with *Compelled*, what do you think?, it might end this problem Regards On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:03 AM, John Kariuki < ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi, Just to share some information on this subject. The ICT Policy in Section 5.10 envisages sharing and states as follows:
" 5.10 Facility Sharing The Government will promote sharing of natural sites,physical infrastructure and co-location of ICT facilities by licensed operators."
Eng.J.N.Kariuki --- On *Mon, 9/11/09, Al Kags <alkags@alkags.com>* wrote:
From: Al Kags <alkags@alkags.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Monday, 9 November, 2009, 10:59
As I recall, this is a discussion that has gone on for close to a decade now if not more. For years, the discussion about say, the mobile providers sharing infrastructure has been ongoing unfruitfully. Now we have advanced it to cable and we are still talking about it. I was wondering why KPLC would be trying to invest I their own cable with NOFBI and KDN so well covering parts of Kenya... Why not invest further in them by providing real estate (their poles) and finance so we can then get a KPLC cable-to-the-home product instead? Surely its more cost effective?
On this, I do think CCK lead more prominently and they should be seen to lead on the matter...
Today, the discussion is vandalism... Tomorrow looms the more compelling discussion about how we are addressing ourselves to climate change with all this duplication.
We have been warned.. -----Original Message----- From: godera@skyweb.co.ke Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:23:28 To: <alkags@alkags.com> Cc: <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
Well said Evans. In my view, if all players were sharing the infrastructure, no one would be complaining of being sabotaged. They would all focus their energies if at all vandalism takes place on uniting to put an end to the vandalism, rather than the current scenario.
Gilda Odera Quoting "Evans J. Nyagah" <ejnyagah@Telkom.co.ke>:
I can agree more with Noor, In the recently concluded AITEC fiber summit conference at Laico, I tried to advance this philosophy and was accused of advancing a big brother concept. Shared service will help utilize the economies of scale to reach many with the infrastructure without replicating. It is indeed unfortunate that you have several players each with parallel cables of underutilized capacity. The investment could otherwise be extended to cover more areas in a scalable manner. When we players start talking to each other and sell and buy capacity to each other? Does CCK has a role to play?
Evans
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Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition sabotaging will reduce. We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable network to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts on their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to this communities. If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could be building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all interested providers. With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities,
Concerned,frustrated
Mahmoud Noor Sent from my BlackBerry(r)
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It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor ..
Frustrated
Kai
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Colleagues
What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side.
Kind regards
Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry?
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Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people doing it we would not know the motives.
The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who was not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants (happens very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal).
Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the cable.
Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know.
Kai
Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>= kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues
In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in disruption of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial sabotage.
Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage.
This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four hours, they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi.
Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined?
Jevans
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Engineer Kariuki,
The ICT Policy in Section 5.10 envisages sharing and states as follows:
" 5.10 Facility Sharing The Government will *promote* sharing of natural sites,physical infrastructure and co-location of ICT facilities by licensed operators."
Sorry for taking the discussion backwards maybe the word *promote *should be replaced with *Compelled*, what do you think?
Mandatory sharing of infrastructure is not as useful as incentivising. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
McTim The ICT Policy in Section 5.10 envisages sharing and states as follows: " 5.10 Facility Sharing The Government will promote sharing of natural sites,physical infrastructure and co-location of ICT facilities by licensed operators." Sorry for taking the discussion backwards maybe the word promote should be replaced with Compelled, what do you think? Mandatory sharing of infrastructure is not as useful as incentivising. Unfortunately in the world of Telecoms i do not think the authorities can equal the market incentives and so you will always find that Mandatory requirements will be more effective than "lets be good neighbours and love thy competitor and the environment policies". It's all about the cash and market share. So why give a competitor access to strategically located infrastucture so he can access your clients. I think this is a challenge especially for incumbents who painfully opened up markets in what was then virgin territory. badru
Mandatory sharing of infrastructure is not as useful as incentivising.
McTim, am not sure i would agree entirely with you, Joseph Stigler who among other economist made the "incentive" argument as we entered the 21st century have had to apply breaks because incentivising does not work under all conditions, sometimes the legal route is more useful. Eric here
-- Cheers,
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Thank you Eng. Kariuki. The policy seems to be saying the right thing. Perhaps the right question to ask is what the regulator has done to implement this aspect of the policy. tim waema On 11/9/09, John Kariuki <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi, Just to share some information on this subject. The ICT Policy in Section 5.10 envisages sharing and states as follows:
" 5.10 Facility Sharing The Government will promote sharing of natural sites,physical infrastructure and co-location of ICT facilities by licensed operators."
Eng.J.N.Kariuki --- On *Mon, 9/11/09, Al Kags <alkags@alkags.com>* wrote:
From: Al Kags <alkags@alkags.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Monday, 9 November, 2009, 10:59
As I recall, this is a discussion that has gone on for close to a decade now if not more. For years, the discussion about say, the mobile providers sharing infrastructure has been ongoing unfruitfully. Now we have advanced it to cable and we are still talking about it. I was wondering why KPLC would be trying to invest I their own cable with NOFBI and KDN so well covering parts of Kenya... Why not invest further in them by providing real estate (their poles) and finance so we can then get a KPLC cable-to-the-home product instead? Surely its more cost effective?
On this, I do think CCK lead more prominently and they should be seen to lead on the matter...
Today, the discussion is vandalism... Tomorrow looms the more compelling discussion about how we are addressing ourselves to climate change with all this duplication.
We have been warned.. -----Original Message----- From: godera@skyweb.co.ke Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:23:28 To: <alkags@alkags.com> Cc: <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
Well said Evans. In my view, if all players were sharing the infrastructure, no one would be complaining of being sabotaged. They would all focus their energies if at all vandalism takes place on uniting to put an end to the vandalism, rather than the current scenario.
Gilda Odera Quoting "Evans J. Nyagah" <ejnyagah@Telkom.co.ke>:
I can agree more with Noor, In the recently concluded AITEC fiber summit conference at Laico, I tried to advance this philosophy and was accused of advancing a big brother concept. Shared service will help utilize the economies of scale to reach many with the infrastructure without replicating. It is indeed unfortunate that you have several players each with parallel cables of underutilized capacity. The investment could otherwise be extended to cover more areas in a scalable manner. When we players start talking to each other and sell and buy capacity to each other? Does CCK has a role to play?
Evans
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Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition sabotaging will reduce. We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable network to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts on their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to this communities. If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could be building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all interested providers. With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities,
Concerned,frustrated
Mahmoud Noor Sent from my BlackBerry(r)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300 From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> To: <jairah@kippra.or.ke> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <484401ca5f15$ab0cdfa0$01269ee0$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor ..
Frustrated
Kai
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>= kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von jairah@kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
Colleagues
What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side.
Kind regards
Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry?
-----Original Message----- From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 To: <jairah@kippra.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300 From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <484601ca5f15$ae77f710$0b67e530$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people doing it we would not know the motives.
The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who was not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants (happens very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal).
Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the cable.
Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know.
Kai
Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>= kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues
In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in disruption of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial sabotage.
Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage.
This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four hours, they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi.
Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined?
Jevans
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