Hey Ray, MTN Business Kenya offers the best cloud services which can be compared to Amozon one. You can reach me on 0722922852 for further details. Regards, James On Mar 4, 2014 4:38 PM, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:16:40 +0300 From: "Ken Mwaura" <mwaura.kenn@gmail.com> To: "'Ray Keller'" <raykeller8@gmail.com> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Hosting options for kenya Message-ID: <020101cf37ac$08d8c400$1a8a4c00$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Ray,

Gestalt Gild offers hosting services, we have our data center in Nairobi. I'll be pleased to guide you through the service off list. We schedule for a meeting and discuss your requirement further, how is your calendar?

Kind regards, Ken Mwaura. Account Manager Gestalt Gild|Website| Kusi Lane, off 3rd Parklands Avenue| Box 12129 - 00100 Nairobi, KENYA.| Office: +254 738222884 Ext. 524; Mobile +254 738959900, +254 723650688. We enable you decide when, where and how you want to interact with business.

-----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mwaura.kenn=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ray Keller Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:18 PM To: Ken Mwaura Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Hosting options for kenya

Hello Friends

I am looking for some help from experts in this list, I have a content rich website which will be used by users in kenya.

Can you suggest me where I can host it? Rates I got from safaricom is very high.

Is there any cloud service which I can use and rates are comparable to amazon.

Critical points are me

1. As it is content base site so data transfer will be very high 2. Latency is critical factor 3. Uptime

Which countries has direct pipe connection with kenya?

I am looking for cost effective prices either in kenya or data centers which are directly connected with kenya.

Please help.

Regards Ray Sent from iPhone

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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:36:14 +0300 From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator Message-ID: <D121D843-006C-46C6-8F6B-1F0F0B953F07@hussein.me.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

@Walu

We are saying the same thing really...

My point being that everyone is looking at Safaricom as this omnipresent being yet they are not really..

The time has come for the competition to stop running under the skirts of the Regulator every time Safaricom coughs..

Ali Hussein

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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein

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On Mar 4, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Ali,

I think you are refusing to see the efficacy of MPESA in the Safaricom ecosystem. Whereas Voice still contributes their largest profit percentages, this voice market is glued together around the MPESA product.

Think Microsoft of the last decade. Why was their applications so successful (MS-Word, MS-Excel, MS-Exchange, etc)? Because they were build around their fairly universal and monopolistic Operating System (MS-Windows). In todays world of tablets and Smartphones and CloudComputing, the Operating system of choice has changed (from Microsoft to Android, iOS and CloudServices i.e. TCP/IP).

Suddenly Microsoft finds itself exposed on their product lines (Word, Excel, etc) because they have lost the monopoly of the Operating System. Same thing with Safcom. You expose MPESA to real competition, you break their stronghold on the Voice and other data services. That is what I blogged about @http://tiny.cc/3o36bx (thnx GG for sharing :-)

Safaricom is clever (that is why they are no. 1) and one can see from their recent industry moves that they are reacting appropriately. What I dont know is if CCK can also their overall game plan and what it means for the industry. Sorry, let me rephrase that - I think CCK can also see the Safaricom game plan, but I am still not sure they have the "oomph" to intervene one way or the other.

At this point in time, the game has moved from being "technical", gone through being "economical" and we are now at the stage where the big boys(where are the girls :-() in politics are receiving calls from interested parties on which way the game should end. I dont have moles way up there but ladies and gentlemen this discussion (Yu acquisition) must now at a the Politcal layer.

You and I can only wait and see - and run to court if we feel aggrieved by the final decisions taken.

walu. -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 3/4/14, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014, 1:42 PM

Edith +1. Mark, sometimes regulatory action is used as a weapon when one has been unable to compete. My take is that Mpesa isn't yet the bread and butter of Safaricom. The greatest value it has is in its network effect. I suspect that Safaricom is already on the hunt for the next big thing. They are building out WiMAX networks, engaging businesses for computing needs etc. This boring stuff is where the money is. My take? CAK (CCK) needs to stand down on this one and let the market take its course. After all what else does the competition need to be done for them to compete with Safaricom? Share out subscribers through legislation? I think this isn't a perfect market but the regulator here is doing an ok job..

Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 <%200713%20601113> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:

Mark and Listers,

If I were Safaricom, I would do exactly what they are doing and MORE! That is the nature of competition! But if the consumer behaved differently.....aka "rational consumer behaviour"......would the competition hold? ....I dont think for long!

Edith ________________________________________ From: Mark Mwangi [mwangy@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:33 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator

@Edith the reason it doesn't work here is because of arrogance or incompetence by the competition. There is no reason as to why the small players have not ganged up and built joint infrastructure like 3G networks to rival Safaricom. I have always said hey should push for twin sim phones to make space on peoples phones but the tend to think selling galaxy phones will translate to profits.

Look at Orange. They should have a monopoly on the iPhone game but now Safaricom sell iPhone too.

Airtel treat clients like they are doing hem a favour right from the Kencell days. I don't know what Yu's strategy was.

@Dennis and @Ali I think this is a bad deal and the regulator shouldn't allow it. It will further constrict choice and thus make a mockery of the license grant in the first place.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto: eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: BIG QUESTION Why can't Kenya sustain a "multi player" environment? Ive argued for years that it has to do with peculiar "consumer behaviour" of Kenyans. Open competition has not worked, number portability has not worked.....what will sustain a vibrant multi player environment?

I've just returned from Ghana where the 4+ players have all sorts of offerings whooing consumers left, right and centre...you have all sorts of incentives that seems to keep all players afloat....number portability works etc etc.

Why not Kenya?

What's your take?

Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] on behalf of Ali Hussein [ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 11:47 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator

Dennis

Couldn't agree with you more.

In this particular case the regulator will do best to stand down and let market forces play out.

Ali Hussein

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On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com<mailto: dmbuvi@gmail.com><mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com<mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com>>> wrote:

I thought Kenya was a liberal country, what's with everyone wanting to place regulatory hurdles on Yu's exit.

Biggest issue is Safaricom's acquisition of spectrum belonging to YU and thus putting more spectrum under them - which they badly need to improve network quality in urban areas which suffer from congestion.

Industry analysts have long predicted consolidation of MNOs in African countries to 3 or 4 per country (see an interview I did with Coleago in December http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/coleago's-chris-gives-insights-on-lte-network-sharing,-spectrum,-future-and-regulation-of-africa-telecoms# )

The buy out paves the way for licensing of MVNOs, which have an advantage of sharing existing capacity and unutilised resources rather than building out whole networks again.

On 4 Mar 2014 05:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke><mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>>> wrote: Listers

Yu has been bleeding red ink since it launched. It was inevitable. No public review will change that. The Network Effect is clearly at play here with Safaricom. None of the other players are profitable. Orange is being kept afloat by GoK and the mother company in France. Airtel considers Kenya a loss leader because of its 'strategic' nature in Africa and hence cannot abandon it. Not sure how long that will continue.

The interesting bit here is that Orange may eventually buy Safaricom because of some actions in far off cities that we have no control over...that for me is the real risk..

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375<tel:%2B254%200770%20906375><tel:%2B254%200770%20906375> / 0713 601113<tel:0713%20601113><tel:0713%20601113>

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On Mar 3, 2014, at 11:20 PM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com <mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com><mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com<mailto: ict.researcher@yahoo.com>>> wrote:

For starters, the company's assets true worth need to be independently established and its outstanding liabilities audited. Mere reported "spend a combined $100 million" inflated with 'sweatheart deal' exit premium does not in any way reflect the much lower true worth of the exiting business persons which no doubt a consortium of Kenyans investors can raise and potentially enable consumers to migrate enmasse to 100 p.c. "MKenya Network":-)

On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:44 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke><mailto: Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>>> wrote: The regulator has just received the application. We are in the process of reviewing the application with a view to deciding the way forward. It is therefore too early to subject the application to public consultation.

Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: ICT Researcher Sent: Monday, 3 March 2014 21:11 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: ICT Researcher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Yu acquisition proposal to regulator

Airtel, Safaricom seek to buy Essar?s Yu in Kenya - Safaricom will get Yu?s infrastructure, while Airtel is expected to acquire Yu?s subscriber base < http://www.livemint.com/Industry/BZZuR21BJsoJf6jksBhnVN/Airtel-Safaricom-see...

Considering the profoundly adverse Triopoly consumer choice consequences, Should the regulator not initiate a public consultation before decision making?

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