Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010
Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G? http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%... Jevans DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Nation Media Group. �To get all breaking news alerts send the word BREAK to 6667 or visit http://mobile.nation.co.ke to read news on your mobile phone.�
At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial. Certainly 3G is more than producing the results - that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ago they said it was not commercially viable. Michael CEO Safaricom Limited ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Jevans Nyabiage Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM To: Michael Joseph Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G? http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20t est%204G%20later%20in%202010/-/1006/890190/-/j9u85pz/-/index.html Jevans DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Nation Media Group <http://www.nation.co.ke> . To get all breaking news alerts send the word BREAK to 6667 or visit http://mobile.nation.co.ke to read news on your mobile phone. ##################################################################################### NOTE: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom�s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here to read the policy. #####################################################################################
Dear Michael, We are glad to read from you, and we hope you are enjoying the "Connected Govt" Summit at the Coast. We have been raising a number of issues on the forum, related to Broadband, and by extension Mobile broadband, and now that you have responded to the 4G inquiry below, hopefully you could give us your comments on some of these pressing questions:- * Is unlimited connectivity viable on Edge, 3G, 4G - etc - instead of data bundles.. * How can we realize price reductions on Mobile broadband connectivity - What in your "considered" opinion makes Broadband Pricing remain as high as it is, even with Fibre optic having landed, and what in your "honest" opinion do you believe will enhance price "scale downs" in the market. * How can we increase broadband/mobile broadband uptake in "low" income areas, of the country, as a way of bridging the digital divide, and increasing universal coverage/access. An idea came up, of "zoning off" different income areas, such that a low income area zone, could have the privilege of access at much more reduced rates on data bundles , such as rural areas, to increase chances of uptake. Is it viable..? * How about giving special discounted Data connectivity rates, to institutions of basic learning, to boost such efforts as E-Learning, as a partnership with the relevant ministries, again with special focus on the low income areas. We pose these questions, because as a major player in the Telecoms industry, we believe your firm can help shape/lead the way towards enhanced quality & cost effective connectivity, for the benefit of all... Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Michael Joseph Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:35 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial. Certainly 3G is more than producing the results – that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ago they said it was not commercially viable. Michael CEO Safaricom Limited _____ From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Jevans Nyabiage Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM To: Michael Joseph Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G? http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%... Jevans DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the <http://www.nation.co.ke> Nation Media Group. To get all breaking news alerts send the word BREAK to 6667 or visit http://mobile.nation.co.ke to read news on your mobile phone. Note: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom�s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/Emailtermsandconditions> here to read the policy. _____ <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/fileadmin/resources/downloads/SafBanner.jpg>
Can I get back to you next week as I have limited access to my emails this weekend? Regards Michael Joseph CEO Safaricom Sent from my iPhone On 31 Mar 2010, at 20:06, "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Dear Michael,
We are glad to read from you, and we hope you are enjoying the "Connected Govt" Summit at the Coast.
We have been raising a number of issues on the forum, related to Broadband, and by extension Mobile broadband, and now that you have responded to the 4G inquiry below, hopefully you could give us your comments on some of these pressing questions:- Is unlimited connectivity viable on Edge, 3G, 4G - etc - instead of data bundles.. How can we realize price reductions on Mobile broadband connectivity - What in your "considered" opinion makes Broadband Pricing remain as high as it is, even with Fibre optic having landed, and what in your "honest" opinion do you believe will enhance price "scale downs" in the market. How can we increase broadband/mobile broadband uptake in "low" income areas, of the country, as a way of bridging the digital divide, and increasing universal coverage/access. An idea came up, of "zoning off" different income areas, such that a low income area zone, could have the privilege of access at much more reduced rates on data bundles , such as rural areas, to increase chances of uptake. Is it viable..? How about giving special discounted Data connectivity rates, to institutions of basic learning, to boost such efforts as E-Learning, as a partnership with the relevant ministries, again with special focus on the low income areas. We pose these questions, because as a major player in the Telecoms industry, we believe your firm can help shape/lead the way towards enhanced quality & cost effective connectivity, for the benefit of all...
Harry
From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Michael Joseph Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:35 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010
At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial.
Certainly 3G is more than producing the results – that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ag o they said it was not commercially viable.
Michael
CEO Safaricom Limited
From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces +mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Jevans Nyabiage Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM To: Michael Joseph Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010
Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G?
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%...
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Thank you. We do look forward to hearing from you.... Kind Regards, Harry _____ From: Michael Joseph [mailto:MJoseph@Safaricom.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:07 AM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 Can I get back to you next week as I have limited access to my emails this weekend? Regards Michael Joseph CEO Safaricom Sent from my iPhone On 31 Mar 2010, at 20:06, "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: Dear Michael, We are glad to read from you, and we hope you are enjoying the "Connected Govt" Summit at the Coast. We have been raising a number of issues on the forum, related to Broadband, and by extension Mobile broadband, and now that you have responded to the 4G inquiry below, hopefully you could give us your comments on some of these pressing questions:- * Is unlimited connectivity viable on Edge, 3G, 4G - etc - instead of data bundles.. * How can we realize price reductions on Mobile broadband connectivity - What in your "considered" opinion makes Broadband Pricing remain as high as it is, even with Fibre optic having landed, and what in your "honest" opinion do you believe will enhance price "scale downs" in the market. * How can we increase broadband/mobile broadband uptake in "low" income areas, of the country, as a way of bridging the digital divide, and increasing universal coverage/access. An idea came up, of "zoning off" different income areas, such that a low income area zone, could have the privilege of access at much more reduced rates on data bundles , such as rural areas, to increase chances of uptake. Is it viable..? * How about giving special discounted Data connectivity rates, to institutions of basic learning, to boost such efforts as E-Learning, as a partnership with the relevant ministries, again with special focus on the low income areas. We pose these questions, because as a major player in the Telecoms industry, we believe your firm can help shape/lead the way towards enhanced quality & cost effective connectivity, for the benefit of all... Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Michael Joseph Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:35 PM To: <mailto:harry@comtelsys.co.ke> harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial. Certainly 3G is more than producing the results – that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ago they said it was not commercially viable. Michael CEO Safaricom Limited _____ From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Jevans Nyabiage Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM To: Michael Joseph Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G? <http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%204G%20later%20in%202010/-/1006/890190/-/j9u85pz/-/index.html> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%... Jevans DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the <http://www.nation.co.ke> Nation Media Group. To get all breaking news alerts send the word BREAK to 6667 or visit <http://mobile.nation.co.ke> http://mobile.nation.co.ke to read news on your mobile phone. Note: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom�s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/Emailtermsandconditions> here to read the policy. _____ <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/fileadmin/resources/downloads/SafBanner.jpg> Note: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom�s Email Terms & Conditions. 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Dear Mr Joseph, I am one of the techies who has been very keen on technology advancements in Kenya and I'd like to use this email to bring to your attention some issues about Safaricom's 3G network and I hope listing them here will help Safaricom achieve better results. Initially when it rolled out, I was a staunch supporter on the new development. Safaricom has been the leading innovator and is now the forefront leader on communications. When Safaricom took the lead on Seacom last year, that created a new development enviroment for some of us and put in motion projects that had been on hold due to infrastructure. One project that I had been testing for over a year was the a server based system that providing streaming video/audio via the net, especially devices using 3G mobile networks. The implications of such a project showed a lot of potential and your network would make it possible for many Kenyans to use a video on demand service from whereever there was 3G coverage. A lot of testing had gone into the project at around the time when 3G was launched and over the months. One offshoot of the project was that Kenyan businesses who have IP CCTV services in their business premises could now stream those CCTV images. And I'm sure they can use such services, using other platforms, when the service works. In a summary and testing over time, the biggest problem that affects your data network is the ability to sustain reliable services. This has been the case ever since the service was launched and continues. The impression I have of Safaricom's data network is that of a system being run on trial and error basis and one therefore cannot build any developments around such a system. I shelved the project due to other priorities. When Orange re-launched their 3g+, though they do not offer faster speeds they are able to offer a reliable service. And I have measured that reliability against downtime versus slow speeds and at the moment I think Orange 3G+ runs a fantastic network. Unfortunately, their definition of a 3g+ service falls short of any high speed data developments but am confident that when they go 3G, they will be able to offer another chance for some of us at project development. Safaricom, in my novice view, needs to build brand loyalty. This loyalty can only come around based on dependable services. I'm very glad that 4G is a new development on the kenyan scene but going by the 3G experience, it somehow does not generate that much interest when 3G was launched. I wish Safaricom well in its new development towards 4G and I hope the problems that have plagued the 3G network have provided Safaricom enough experience to seek better ways of service delivery on 4G. With Rgds. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke>wrote:
Can I get back to you next week as I have limited access to my emails this weekend?
Regards Michael Joseph CEO Safaricom
Sent from my iPhone
Dear Michael, I couldn’t help noticing the “sent from my iPhone” tag at the end of your email. Is this a sign of good things to come (Safaricom introducing iPhone services) or do you have an Orange line J ? Regards, Harry Karanja n Director n SoftLaw Limited n Genius Executive Centre n 15th Floor View Park Towers n Utalii Lane n Nairobi CBD n Tel: +254 20 342 225 From: kictanet-bounces+kairo=softlaw.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kairo=softlaw.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Michael Joseph Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:07 AM To: kairo@softlaw.co.ke Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [SPAM] Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 Can I get back to you next week as I have limited access to my emails this weekend? Regards Michael Joseph CEO Safaricom Sent from my iPhone On 31 Mar 2010, at 20:06, "Harry Delano" <harry@comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: Dear Michael, We are glad to read from you, and we hope you are enjoying the "Connected Govt" Summit at the Coast. We have been raising a number of issues on the forum, related to Broadband, and by extension Mobile broadband, and now that you have responded to the 4G inquiry below, hopefully you could give us your comments on some of these pressing questions:- * Is unlimited connectivity viable on Edge, 3G, 4G - etc - instead of data bundles.. * How can we realize price reductions on Mobile broadband connectivity - What in your "considered" opinion makes Broadband Pricing remain as high as it is, even with Fibre optic having landed, and what in your "honest" opinion do you believe will enhance price "scale downs" in the market. * How can we increase broadband/mobile broadband uptake in "low" income areas, of the country, as a way of bridging the digital divide, and increasing universal coverage/access. An idea came up, of "zoning off" different income areas, such that a low income area zone, could have the privilege of access at much more reduced rates on data bundles , such as rural areas, to increase chances of uptake. Is it viable..? * How about giving special discounted Data connectivity rates, to institutions of basic learning, to boost such efforts as E-Learning, as a partnership with the relevant ministries, again with special focus on the low income areas. We pose these questions, because as a major player in the Telecoms industry, we believe your firm can help shape/lead the way towards enhanced quality & cost effective connectivity, for the benefit of all... Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Michael Joseph Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:35 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial. Certainly 3G is more than producing the results – that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ago they said it was not commercially viable. Michael CEO Safaricom Limited _____ From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Jevans Nyabiage Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM To: Michael Joseph Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G? http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%... Jevans DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the <http://www.nation.co.ke> Nation Media Group. To get all breaking news alerts send the word BREAK to 6667 or visit http://mobile.nation.co.ke to read news on your mobile phone. Note: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom�s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/Emailtermsandconditions> here to read the policy. _____ <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/fileadmin/resources/downloads/SafBanner.jpg> Note: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricoms Email Terms & Conditions. Please click <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/Emailtermsandconditions> here to read the policy. _____ <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/fileadmin/resources/downloads/SafBanner.jpg>
Very welcome...LTE or call it 4G will be very good for the last mile, we need it here! We are speaking about insanely fast speeds … potential as high as 150Mbps download and upload speeds as high as 50Mbps … about 100x more bandwidth (much faster) than most 3G networks. Safaricom should go ahead and test! On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke>wrote:
At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial.
Certainly 3G is more than producing the results – that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ago they said it was not commercially viable.
Michael
*CEO*
*Safaricom Limited*
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*From:* kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph <kictanet-bounces%2Bmjoseph>=safaricom.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Jevans Nyabiage *Sent:* Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM *To:* Michael Joseph *Cc:* ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010
Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G?
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%...
Jevans
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On 01/04/2010, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
Very welcome...LTE or call it 4G will be very good for the last mile, we need it here! We are speaking about insanely fast speeds … potential as high as 150Mbps download and upload speeds as high as 50Mbps … about 100x more bandwidth (much faster) than most 3G networks. Safaricom should go ahead and test!
IMHO, while this is a great idea it should not just be pegged on the speeds but also on the consumer benefit. Just to ask, how many consumers outside Nairobi really understand the essence behind 3G? Can Safaricom, say, for instance, the viability of 3G, at the moment from the consumers end? What about areas which are not fully covered by 3G? Sometimes, the consumer ends up getting confused with this 'new' products leaving him with no choice but to subscribe without public education, which is an essential tool for helping the end user make informed choices at the end of the day.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke>wrote:
At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial.
Certainly 3G is more than producing the results – that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ago they said it was not commercially viable.
Michael
*CEO*
*Safaricom Limited*
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*From:* kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph <kictanet-bounces%2Bmjoseph>=safaricom.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Jevans Nyabiage *Sent:* Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM *To:* Michael Joseph *Cc:* ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010
Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G?
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%...
Jevans
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I dont think Safcom or any other Telco needs permission from Users(customers) to test new technologies (unless ofcourse these are medically harmful - of which the regulator would have cleared beforehand). Futhermore, I dont think CCK licenses peg the introduction of new technologies(4G) on the success or otherwise of the older technologies (2go r3g)... So lets not mix the two issues. If consumers have issues with the old technologies, they should raise those issues (like Aki did) INDEPENDENT of subsequent technologies... Plse dont introduce barriers to new developments(@Jevans), after all if eventually 4g s*cks, the customers will simply vote with their feet... walu. --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 11:21 AM On 01/04/2010, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
Very welcome...LTE or call it 4G will be very good for the last mile, we need it here! We are speaking about insanely fast speeds … potential as high as 150Mbps download and upload speeds as high as 50Mbps … about 100x more bandwidth (much faster) than most 3G networks. Safaricom should go ahead and test!
IMHO, while this is a great idea it should not just be pegged on the speeds but also on the consumer benefit. Just to ask, how many consumers outside Nairobi really understand the essence behind 3G? Can Safaricom, say, for instance, the viability of 3G, at the moment from the consumers end? What about areas which are not fully covered by 3G? Sometimes, the consumer ends up getting confused with this 'new' products leaving him with no choice but to subscribe without public education, which is an essential tool for helping the end user make informed choices at the end of the day.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke>wrote:
At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial.
Certainly 3G is more than producing the results – that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ago they said it was not commercially viable.
Michael
*CEO*
*Safaricom Limited*
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*From:* kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph <kictanet-bounces%2Bmjoseph>=safaricom.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Jevans Nyabiage *Sent:* Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM *To:* Michael Joseph *Cc:* ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010
Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G?
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%...
Jevans
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What should be addressed is the delivery of quality service to the customer at affordable price not the technology employed. Whether it is LTE, 4G or NG may not matter to the customer. Most customers have no idea of the stage of technology development and this may be of least interest to them per sey. What may matter most is the "quality service at affodable price." Let the Telecos not make technology applied a big issue. Regards Vitalis ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: volunga@yahoo.com Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 11:20:42 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 I dont think Safcom or any other Telco needs permission from Users(customers) to test new technologies (unless ofcourse these are medically harmful - of which the regulator would have cleared beforehand). Futhermore, I dont think CCK licenses peg the introduction of new technologies(4G) on the success or otherwise of the older technologies (2go r3g)... So lets not mix the two issues. If consumers have issues with the old technologies, they should raise those issues (like Aki did) INDEPENDENT of subsequent technologies... Plse dont introduce barriers to new developments(@Jevans), after all if eventually 4g s*cks, the customers will simply vote with their feet... walu. --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: ke-internetusers@bdix.net, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 11:21 AM
On 01/04/2010, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
Very welcome...LTE or call it 4G will be very good for the last mile, we need it here! We are speaking about insanely fast speeds … potential as high as 150Mbps download and upload speeds as high as 50Mbps … about 100x more bandwidth (much faster) than most 3G networks. Safaricom should go ahead and test!
IMHO, while this is a great idea it should not just be pegged on the speeds but also on the consumer benefit. Just to ask, how many consumers outside Nairobi really understand the essence behind 3G? Can Safaricom, say, for instance, the viability of 3G, at the moment from the consumers end? What about areas which are not fully covered by 3G?
Sometimes, the consumer ends up getting confused with this 'new' products leaving him with no choice but to subscribe without public education, which is an essential tool for helping the end user make informed choices at the end of the day.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke>wrote:
At extreme risk of responding via this list, I ask why should we not be testing new technology which might benefit both the Kenyan public and the industry? It did not say we are launching it commercially but merely hoping to do a technical trial.
Certainly 3G is more than producing the results – that is why all of a sudden the other operators want to climb on board when 2 years ago they said it was not commercially viable.
Michael
*CEO*
*Safaricom Limited*
------------------------------
*From:* kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph <kictanet-bounces%2Bmjoseph>=safaricom.co.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Jevans Nyabiage *Sent:* Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:20 PM *To:* Michael Joseph *Cc:* ke-internetusers@bdix.net; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] Kenya's Safaricom says to test 4G later in 2010
Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G?
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Kenyas%20Safaricom%20says%20to%20test%...
Jevans
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke>wrote:
Has Safaricom fully achieved the benefits of 3G to start testing 4G?
Jevans, IMHO, you should put this question to those who use such services from Safaricom. Safaricom has the service out there. The question is whether or not the consumers feel satisfied with it. I think that would be the measure/yardstick. Safaricom can go ahead and roll 4G, 5G and even nG, but doesn't consume the services itself. For Safaricom, the benefits are measured through their books or acounts, right? As a consumer (and I haven't tasted videotelefony or even MMS), I can only say I am happy with their Internet connectivity via 3G. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Dorcas Muthoni -
Harry Delano -
Harry Karanja -
Jevans Nyabiage -
Michael Joseph -
Odhiambo Washington -
Solomon Mburu Kamau -
Vitalis Olunga -
Walubengo J