DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012. see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm Best Alice
#TurkanaOil is now trending worldwide on Twitter. Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati, do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs? walu. --- On Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> wrote: From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012. see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm Best Alice _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Read somewhere, in response to this same announcement "We still want elections in 2012" :-/ That aside, can new found wealth mean faster attainment of Vision 2030? Will we be like Ghana and start making strides or like (insert country with natural resource related civil strife here)? Or can we take a stab at Vision 2020 instead thanks to oil wealth? On 26 March 2012 14:09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
#TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
--- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org>* wrote:
From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
see:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
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I am not excited at all. I just came back from Nigeria where you have to queue for hours in a filling station, sometimes days. Filling up your car is a source of stress and you have to really plan for it. Maybe oil will make our incessant political infighting getting bloodier. Konza City excites me more than the discovery of oil. With Konza, we have to keep thinking of how to bake the national cake. With oil, we will just be fighting over the sharing of oil wealth. We will probably become lazy, and yes, probably more corrupt. Ikua On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
Read somewhere, in response to this same announcement "We still want elections in 2012" :-/
That aside, can new found wealth mean faster attainment of Vision 2030? Will we be like Ghana and start making strides or like (insert country with natural resource related civil strife here)? Or can we take a stab at Vision 2020 instead thanks to oil wealth?
On 26 March 2012 14:09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
#TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
--- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org>* wrote:
From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
see:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
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With right leaders at the top and a vigilant electorate the oil discovery should not be a curse. How I wish we Kenyans use the power of the ballot to weed out the corrupt 'nincompoops'. I am glad we have struck oil On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not excited at all. I just came back from Nigeria where you have to queue for hours in a filling station, sometimes days. Filling up your car is a source of stress and you have to really plan for it. Maybe oil will make our incessant political infighting getting bloodier. Konza City excites me more than the discovery of oil. With Konza, we have to keep thinking of how to bake the national cake. With oil, we will just be fighting over the sharing of oil wealth. We will probably become lazy, and yes, probably more corrupt.
Ikua
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
Read somewhere, in response to this same announcement "We still want elections in 2012" :-/
That aside, can new found wealth mean faster attainment of Vision 2030? Will we be like Ghana and start making strides or like (insert country with natural resource related civil strife here)? Or can we take a stab at Vision 2020 instead thanks to oil wealth?
On 26 March 2012 14:09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
#TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
--- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org>* wrote:
From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
see:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
Best Alice
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Hello Listers Oil or no oil the entire Kenyan population has to re-think its approach to handling of national issues. We all need to do some soul searching to see how we can rediscover what was one a society with some values. Our leaders past and present have exercised so much impunity that is has now afflicted the rest of the community. We live, eat, preach and dream politics while our development blueprints take decades to take off. I am in China at the moment and as we all know this country has achieved what it has because of high discipline and respect for order. No country can develop without a high sense of responsibility on the part of everyone. In my view, with our disorder, especially among those we have assigned responsibility to mind our national purse, oil discovery may come to naught and development plans such as Konza city and Vision 2030 may simply falter. Wamukoya --- On Mon, 26/3/12, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote: From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: jwamukoya1@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, 26 March, 2012, 15:57 I am not excited at all. I just came back from Nigeria where you have to queue for hours in a filling station, sometimes days. Filling up your car is a source of stress and you have to really plan for it. Maybe oil will make our incessant political infighting getting bloodier. Konza City excites me more than the discovery of oil. With Konza, we have to keep thinking of how to bake the national cake. With oil, we will just be fighting over the sharing of oil wealth. We will probably become lazy, and yes, probably more corrupt. Ikua On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote: Read somewhere, in response to this same announcement "We still want elections in 2012" :-/ That aside, can new found wealth mean faster attainment of Vision 2030? Will we be like Ghana and start making strides or like (insert country with natural resource related civil strife here)? Or can we take a stab at Vision 2020 instead thanks to oil wealth? On 26 March 2012 14:09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: #TurkanaOil is now trending worldwide on Twitter. Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati, do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs? walu. --- On Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> wrote: From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012. see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm Best Alice _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Please Google ''1980 China Law"... Chinese Communists used force to "civilize" their society as faith was / is criminalized & condemned by Communism. Will the "2010 Kenya Laws" unify and civilize Kenya? Laws that do not apply (the bill of rights) equally to all within the State? On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:35 PM, justus wamukoya <jwamukoya1@yahoo.com>wrote:
Hello Listers
Oil or no oil the entire Kenyan population has to re-think its approach to handling of national issues. We all need to do some soul searching to see how we can rediscover what was one a society with some values. Our leaders past and present have exercised so much impunity that is has now afflicted the rest of the community. We live, eat, preach and dream politics while our development blueprints take decades to take off.
I am in China at the moment and as we all know this country has achieved what it has because of high discipline and respect for order. No country can develop without a high sense of responsibility on the part of everyone. In my view, with our disorder, especially among those we have assigned responsibility to mind our national purse, oil discovery may come to naught and development plans such as Konza city and Vision 2030 may simply falter.
Wamukoya
--- On *Mon, 26/3/12, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: jwamukoya1@yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, 26 March, 2012, 15:57
I am not excited at all. I just came back from Nigeria where you have to queue for hours in a filling station, sometimes days. Filling up your car is a source of stress and you have to really plan for it. Maybe oil will make our incessant political infighting getting bloodier. Konza City excites me more than the discovery of oil. With Konza, we have to keep thinking of how to bake the national cake. With oil, we will just be fighting over the sharing of oil wealth. We will probably become lazy, and yes, probably more corrupt.
Ikua
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=francis.hook@gmail.com>
wrote:
Read somewhere, in response to this same announcement "We still want elections in 2012" :-/
That aside, can new found wealth mean faster attainment of Vision 2030? Will we be like Ghana and start making strides or like (insert country with natural resource related civil strife here)? Or can we take a stab at Vision 2020 instead thanks to oil wealth?
On 26 March 2012 14:09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
#TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
--- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alice@apc.org> <alice@apc.org<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alice@apc.org>
* wrote:
From: alice@apc.org<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alice@apc.org><; alice@apc.org <http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alice@apc.org>
Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
see:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
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I do appreciate your views and we are all familiar with that dark part of Chinese history. However, this does not mean we should not emulate whatever good values that have propelled some communities forward. Afterall, haven't we as a country had skeletons in our closets? Justus - On Tue, 27/3/12, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote: From: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: "justus wamukoya" <jwamukoya1@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, 27 March, 2012, 17:51 Please Google ''1980 China Law"... Chinese Communists used force to "civilize" their society as faith was / is criminalized & condemned by Communism. Will the "2010 Kenya Laws" unify and civilize Kenya? Laws that do not apply (the bill of rights) equally to all within the State? On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:35 PM, justus wamukoya <jwamukoya1@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello Listers Oil or no oil the entire Kenyan population has to re-think its approach to handling of national issues. We all need to do some soul searching to see how we can rediscover what was one a society with some values. Our leaders past and present have exercised so much impunity that is has now afflicted the rest of the community. We live, eat, preach and dream politics while our development blueprints take decades to take off. I am in China at the moment and as we all know this country has achieved what it has because of high discipline and respect for order. No country can develop without a high sense of responsibility on the part of everyone. In my view, with our disorder, especially among those we have assigned responsibility to mind our national purse, oil discovery may come to naught and development plans such as Konza city and Vision 2030 may simply falter. Wamukoya --- On Mon, 26/3/12, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote: From: Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: jwamukoya1@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, 26 March, 2012, 15:57 I am not excited at all. I just came back from Nigeria where you have to queue for hours in a filling station, sometimes days. Filling up your car is a source of stress and you have to really plan for it. Maybe oil will make our incessant political infighting getting bloodier. Konza City excites me more than the discovery of oil. With Konza, we have to keep thinking of how to bake the national cake. With oil, we will just be fighting over the sharing of oil wealth. We will probably become lazy, and yes, probably more corrupt. Ikua On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote: Read somewhere, in response to this same announcement "We still want elections in 2012" :-/ That aside, can new found wealth mean faster attainment of Vision 2030? Will we be like Ghana and start making strides or like (insert country with natural resource related civil strife here)? Or can we take a stab at Vision 2020 instead thanks to oil wealth? On 26 March 2012 14:09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: #TurkanaOil is now trending worldwide on Twitter. Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati, do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs? walu. --- On Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> wrote: From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012. see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm Best Alice _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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The Chinese Communists actually passed some GOOD laws, that will NOT pass in a corrupt but democratic Kenyan parliament. http://newyork.china-consulate.org/eng/lsqz/laws/t42222.htm If such a law was passed in Kenya, ALL of Kenya would develop faster than we will even with the oil find. Instead, we entrenched the opposite (exemptions to the Bill of Rights) in the 2010 Kenya Constitution. Without oil, but with more justice + innovation, Israel is way ahead in the Middle East. http://www.mendeley.com/research/mental-health-aspects-arabisraeli-adolescen... http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120123/Study-explores-global-rise-of-mono... On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:07 PM, justus wamukoya <jwamukoya1@yahoo.com>wrote:
I do appreciate your views and we are all familiar with that dark part of Chinese history. However, this does not mean we should not emulate whatever good values that have propelled some communities forward. Afterall, haven't we as a country had skeletons in our closets?
Justus
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: "justus wamukoya" <jwamukoya1@yahoo.com>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, 27 March, 2012, 17:51
Please Google ''1980 China Law"...
Chinese Communists used force to "civilize" their society as faith was / is criminalized & condemned by Communism.
Will the "2010 Kenya Laws" unify and civilize Kenya?
Laws that do not apply (the bill of rights) equally to all within the State?
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Hello Listers
Oil or no oil the entire Kenyan population has to re-think its approach to handling of national issues. We all need to do some soul searching to see how we can rediscover what was one a society with some values. Our leaders past and present have exercised so much impunity that is has now afflicted the rest of the community. We live, eat, preach and dream politics while our development blueprints take decades to take off.
I am in China at the moment and as we all know this country has achieved what it has because of high discipline and respect for order. No country can develop without a high sense of responsibility on the part of everyone. In my view, with our disorder, especially among those we have assigned responsibility to mind our national purse, oil discovery may come to naught and development plans such as Konza city and Vision 2030 may simply falter.
Wamukoya
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I am not excited at all. I just came back from Nigeria where you have to queue for hours in a filling station, sometimes days. Filling up your car is a source of stress and you have to really plan for it. Maybe oil will make our incessant political infighting getting bloodier. Konza City excites me more than the discovery of oil. With Konza, we have to keep thinking of how to bake the national cake. With oil, we will just be fighting over the sharing of oil wealth. We will probably become lazy, and yes, probably more corrupt.
Ikua
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Read somewhere, in response to this same announcement "We still want elections in 2012" :-/
That aside, can new found wealth mean faster attainment of Vision 2030? Will we be like Ghana and start making strides or like (insert country with natural resource related civil strife here)? Or can we take a stab at Vision 2020 instead thanks to oil wealth?
On 26 March 2012 14:09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>
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#TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
--- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alice@apc.org> <alice@apc.org<http://uk.mc295.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alice@apc.org>
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Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
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Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "S.M. Muraya" <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:31:22 To: Mugo Kibati<mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mugo%40vision2030.go.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Also in addition to mugokibati's comments... Big oil is currently run by an international cartel of players called opec, with both ability and means to wreak destabilizing interference in a way no one could. My suggestion would be a strategic approach to play game, seek a miniscule scale and then grow our involvement with time. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:51 PM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned..... Lucy Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
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Some spanner in the works: A cabinet minister sold the gamia1 well to Tullow Oil at 800Million. Wow. Then with the best estimate of 2million barrels, Kenya has already put in place revenue sharing arrangement for the next 4 years, with Tullow oil getting 80%, 60%, 40%, 20% respectively. After that the resource goes back to Kenya, after which it might be COMPLETELY dry. OPEC cartels work with speed with minimum waste. Kenya is already screwed Regards. Lordmwesh On 28/03/2012, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned.....
Lucy
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Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Hi Lucy - by the time we have oil revenues coming in, MDGs will be long gone! Unless you want us to start seriously addressing infant mortality after 2016/17:-) Regards, Mugo Mugo Kibati Director General Kenya Vision 2030 Delivery Secretariat KUSCCO Centre, 2nd Floor - Upper Hill PO Box 52301 - 00200, Nairobi Email: mugo@vision2030.go.ke www.vision2030.go.ke -----Original Message----- From: Lucy Kimani [mailto:lkimani@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:36 AM To: mugo@vision2030.go.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned..... Lucy Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Mugo, Ok you got me on the 2016/17, lakini I hope this means you are seriously addressing the MDG:-) mine was just to point you to a success story and perhaps you can follow their lead without reinventing the wheel... Lucy --- On Wed, 3/28/12, Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> wrote: From: Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: "'Lucy Kimani'" <lkimani@yahoo.com> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 5:27 AM Hi Lucy - by the time we have oil revenues coming in, MDGs will be long gone! Unless you want us to start seriously addressing infant mortality after 2016/17:-) Regards, Mugo Mugo Kibati Director General Kenya Vision 2030 Delivery Secretariat KUSCCO Centre, 2nd Floor - Upper Hill PO Box 52301 - 00200, Nairobi Email: mugo@vision2030.go.ke www.vision2030.go.ke -----Original Message----- From: Lucy Kimani [mailto:lkimani@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:36 AM To: mugo@vision2030.go.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned..... Lucy Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Listers, There have been more than 8 billion mentions of Turkana in the web since the discovery of Oil in the Northern Kenya County. I also happen to have mentioned it several times as I tried to convince my wife that marrying a Turkana woman as my second now will be a great investment for the future. Unfortunately, I have not succeeded but what has struck me is the fact that we have all taken a wrong tangent on this Oil issue. Personally the first thing that came into my mind is immediate abolishing of our Geography syllabus. If you recall the Geography that we did and still is valid classifies Kenya as non natural resource country. Even as Patni was testifying that Kenya had Commercial quantity Gold, none of us educated believed what he was saying. It took us another 10 years to realize that indeed there was Gold in Kenya. The first Commercial Gold mining was issued last year. This was as a result of the Late Michukis efficiency, that we came to known of a commercially viable mine Gold reserves in this country. The Monday announcement that Kenya had struck oil was distressful to me as I began to ask myself what other mineral resources do we have that we do not know. Indeed a simple research revealed that in Taita we have Iron Ore, Uranium, Tanzanite etc; from Kitui to Makueni we have Coal; in Homabays Homa Hills we have probably the best yield Iron Ore that can be found anywhere; in Migori, Kisii, Transmara and Pokot we have Gold; in Pokot lies many other minerals including Copper, limestone and Zinc plus other rare earth minerals; in the Coastal regions we have Titanium and other rare earth minerals and of course the Northern Kenya is a sea bed of Oil. As a curious student in the US, I one time discovered a map that had classified East Africa as a possible oil reserve. I was excited and immediately prepared a strategic concept paper which I wanted to deliver to the then President, Daniel Moi. It turned out to be my greatest nightmare. I was pumped from office to office with curious Civil Servants asking me why I will want to waste time with such a document. Eventually, I was sent to Foreign Affairs to see the Director of Political Affairs. He took my document and simply told me young man, go back to your schooling. You can very easily go to jail here for underestimating our intelligence. Should we wait until the British come to tell us what to exploit and what we should not? Some of the Coal field in Ukambani can be easily mined using open-cast method that does not require complex drilling yet we have destroyed the tree cover by burning charcoal in many parts of this country. We can package the coal nicely and have it sold in super markets. There is not much capital expenditure requirement to have as many as 1,000 youth working in this new project. We can even spend Kazi Kwa Vijana resources in order to save a few more trees. When we revert to arguments such as is oil a curse or a blessing we are borrowing from the Western media without engaging our brains. Can we see headlines such as Kenya MUST abolish colonial geography, Kenyan Universities intensify geological research, Curious Kenyans root for more research, Oil discovery what next? We must begin to think big and more positively otherwise we shall be dependants for ages to come. Ndemo.
Mugo, Ok you got me on the 2016/17, lakini I hope this means you are seriously addressing the MDG:-) mine was just to point you to a success story and perhaps you can follow their lead without reinventing the wheel... Lucy
--- On Wed, 3/28/12, Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> wrote:
From: Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: "'Lucy Kimani'" <lkimani@yahoo.com> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 5:27 AM
Hi Lucy - by the time we have oil revenues coming in, MDGs will be long gone! Unless you want us to start seriously addressing infant mortality after 2016/17:-)
Regards, Mugo
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-----Original Message----- From: Lucy Kimani [mailto:lkimani@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:36 AM To: mugo@vision2030.go.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned.....
Lucy
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On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: "S.M. Muraya" <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:31:22 To: Mugo Kibati<mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
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Bwana Ndemo, Bold Statement! I've always wondered (and don't tell me it costs a lot), why we always wait for foreigners to help us discover our precious resources - I have never received a convincing answer. I vividly recall when we went with you to CFSK and you asked them why they do not accompany "the precious metal they extract from computer parts" to China to discover what Chinese do withthem so we can do the same in Kenya to make more money. It's the same with exploration - why leave it to foreigners? Edith ________________ Edith Ofwona Adera Senior Program Specialist | Spécialiste de programme principal | Especialista Principal de Programa Climate Change and Water Program Agriculture and Environment | Agriculture et environnement | Agricultura y Medio Ambiente International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa Liason House 2nd floor, State House Avenue, Nairobi, Kenya +254-20-2713160/1 | Fax: +254-20-2711063 | Mobile: +254-733-624345 eadera@idrc.ca | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:30 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers Listers, There have been more than 8 billion mentions of Turkana in the web since the discovery of Oil in the Northern Kenya County. I also happen to have mentioned it several times as I tried to convince my wife that marrying a Turkana woman as my second now will be a great investment for the future. Unfortunately, I have not succeeded but what has struck me is the fact that we have all taken a wrong tangent on this Oil issue. Personally the first thing that came into my mind is immediate abolishing of our Geography syllabus. If you recall the Geography that we did and still is valid classifies Kenya as non natural resource country. Even as Patni was testifying that Kenya had Commercial quantity Gold, none of us "educated" believed what he was saying. It took us another 10 years to realize that indeed there was Gold in Kenya. The first Commercial Gold mining was issued last year. This was as a result of the Late Michuki's efficiency, that we came to known of a commercially viable mine Gold reserves in this country. The Monday announcement that Kenya had struck oil was distressful to me as I began to ask myself what other mineral resources do we have that we do not know. Indeed a simple research revealed that in Taita we have Iron Ore, Uranium, Tanzanite etc; from Kitui to Makueni we have Coal; in Homabay's Homa Hills we have probably the best yield Iron Ore that can be found anywhere; in Migori, Kisii, Transmara and Pokot we have Gold; in Pokot lies many other minerals including Copper, limestone and Zinc plus other rare earth minerals; in the Coastal regions we have Titanium and other rare earth minerals and of course the Northern Kenya is a sea bed of Oil. As a curious student in the US, I one time discovered a map that had classified East Africa as a possible oil reserve. I was excited and immediately prepared a strategic concept paper which I wanted to deliver to the then President, Daniel Moi. It turned out to be my greatest nightmare. I was pumped from office to office with curious Civil Servants asking me why I will want to waste time with such a document. Eventually, I was sent to Foreign Affairs to see the Director of Political Affairs. He took my document and simply told me "young man, go back to your schooling. You can very easily go to jail here for underestimating our intelligence". Should we wait until the British come to tell us what to exploit and what we should not? Some of the Coal field in Ukambani can be easily mined using open-cast method that does not require complex drilling yet we have destroyed the tree cover by burning charcoal in many parts of this country. We can package the coal nicely and have it sold in super markets. There is not much capital expenditure requirement to have as many as 1,000 youth working in this new project. We can even spend Kazi Kwa Vijana resources in order to save a few more trees. When we revert to arguments such as "is oil a curse or a blessing" we are borrowing from the Western media without engaging our brains. Can we see headlines such as "Kenya MUST abolish colonial geography", "Kenyan Universities intensify geological research", "Curious Kenyans root for more research", "Oil discovery what next"? We must begin to think big and more positively otherwise we shall be dependants for ages to come. Ndemo.
Mugo, Ok you got me on the 2016/17, lakini I hope this means you are seriously addressing the MDG:-) mine was just to point you to a success story and perhaps you can follow their lead without reinventing the wheel... Lucy
--- On Wed, 3/28/12, Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> wrote:
From: Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: "'Lucy Kimani'" <lkimani@yahoo.com> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 5:27 AM
Hi Lucy - by the time we have oil revenues coming in, MDGs will be long gone! Unless you want us to start seriously addressing infant mortality after 2016/17:-)
Regards, Mugo
Mugo Kibati Director General Kenya Vision 2030 Delivery Secretariat KUSCCO Centre, 2nd Floor - Upper Hill PO Box 52301 - 00200, Nairobi Email: mugo@vision2030.go.ke www.vision2030.go.ke
-----Original Message----- From: Lucy Kimani [mailto:lkimani@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:36 AM To: mugo@vision2030.go.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned.....
Lucy
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On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: "S.M. Muraya" <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:31:22 To: Mugo Kibati<mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
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Edith, Agreed, that is indeed a very bold statement and a challenge I dare say to all of us as Kenyans to "think outside the proverbial box". I wish the journalists on this list would take the statement and blow it up on a one page "service to the community" as a driver to the kinds of conversations we as Kenyans ought to be engaged in on the Turkana Oil discovery. Unfortunately this also presents more homework for the Director General aka Mugo Kibati and the Ministry of Planning to include this in our National Development & Vision 2030. Edith thanks for sharing as I would have otherwise missed the statement as i did not see it cross the list... Lucy --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote: From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: lkimani@yahoo.com Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 29, 2012, 5:35 AM Bwana Ndemo, Bold Statement! I've always wondered (and don't tell me it costs a lot), why we always wait for foreigners to help us discover our precious resources - I have never received a convincing answer. I vividly recall when we went with you to CFSK and you asked them why they do not accompany "the precious metal they extract from computer parts" to China to discover what Chinese do withthem so we can do the same in Kenya to make more money. It's the same with exploration - why leave it to foreigners? Edith ________________ Edith Ofwona Adera Senior Program Specialist | Spécialiste de programme principal | Especialista Principal de Programa Climate Change and Water Program Agriculture and Environment | Agriculture et environnement | Agricultura y Medio Ambiente International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa Liason House 2nd floor, State House Avenue, Nairobi, Kenya +254-20-2713160/1 | Fax: +254-20-2711063 | Mobile: +254-733-624345 eadera@idrc.ca | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:30 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers Listers, There have been more than 8 billion mentions of Turkana in the web since the discovery of Oil in the Northern Kenya County. I also happen to have mentioned it several times as I tried to convince my wife that marrying a Turkana woman as my second now will be a great investment for the future. Unfortunately, I have not succeeded but what has struck me is the fact that we have all taken a wrong tangent on this Oil issue. Personally the first thing that came into my mind is immediate abolishing of our Geography syllabus. If you recall the Geography that we did and still is valid classifies Kenya as non natural resource country. Even as Patni was testifying that Kenya had Commercial quantity Gold, none of us "educated" believed what he was saying. It took us another 10 years to realize that indeed there was Gold in Kenya. The first Commercial Gold mining was issued last year. This was as a result of the Late Michuki's efficiency, that we came to known of a commercially viable mine Gold reserves in this country. The Monday announcement that Kenya had struck oil was distressful to me as I began to ask myself what other mineral resources do we have that we do not know. Indeed a simple research revealed that in Taita we have Iron Ore, Uranium, Tanzanite etc; from Kitui to Makueni we have Coal; in Homabay's Homa Hills we have probably the best yield Iron Ore that can be found anywhere; in Migori, Kisii, Transmara and Pokot we have Gold; in Pokot lies many other minerals including Copper, limestone and Zinc plus other rare earth minerals; in the Coastal regions we have Titanium and other rare earth minerals and of course the Northern Kenya is a sea bed of Oil. As a curious student in the US, I one time discovered a map that had classified East Africa as a possible oil reserve. I was excited and immediately prepared a strategic concept paper which I wanted to deliver to the then President, Daniel Moi. It turned out to be my greatest nightmare. I was pumped from office to office with curious Civil Servants asking me why I will want to waste time with such a document. Eventually, I was sent to Foreign Affairs to see the Director of Political Affairs. He took my document and simply told me "young man, go back to your schooling. You can very easily go to jail here for underestimating our intelligence". Should we wait until the British come to tell us what to exploit and what we should not? Some of the Coal field in Ukambani can be easily mined using open-cast method that does not require complex drilling yet we have destroyed the tree cover by burning charcoal in many parts of this country. We can package the coal nicely and have it sold in super markets. There is not much capital expenditure requirement to have as many as 1,000 youth working in this new project. We can even spend Kazi Kwa Vijana resources in order to save a few more trees. When we revert to arguments such as "is oil a curse or a blessing" we are borrowing from the Western media without engaging our brains. Can we see headlines such as "Kenya MUST abolish colonial geography", "Kenyan Universities intensify geological research", "Curious Kenyans root for more research", "Oil discovery what next"? We must begin to think big and more positively otherwise we shall be dependants for ages to come. Ndemo.
Mugo, Ok you got me on the 2016/17, lakini I hope this means you are seriously addressing the MDG:-) mine was just to point you to a success story and perhaps you can follow their lead without reinventing the wheel... Lucy
--- On Wed, 3/28/12, Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> wrote:
From: Mugo Kibati <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers To: "'Lucy Kimani'" <lkimani@yahoo.com> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 5:27 AM
Hi Lucy - by the time we have oil revenues coming in, MDGs will be long gone! Unless you want us to start seriously addressing infant mortality after 2016/17:-)
Regards, Mugo
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-----Original Message----- From: Lucy Kimani [mailto:lkimani@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:36 AM To: mugo@vision2030.go.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned.....
Lucy
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On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Turkana oil war! Is this the start of proxy wars and divide and conquer from the west! Is this the time political heat will increase? Is it a blessing or we will follow the historical route of the curse of the black gold? On 26/03/2012, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
#TurkanaOil is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
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ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
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Oil is not new to Africa nor will renew our economy, for as long as we want to eat the cake before we bake it we shall all but be kicking each other in the teeth trying to allocate ourselves a natural resource found in the midst of forgotten Kenyans. With all its resource wealth, DRC Congo is still a battlefield. lets all vote in leaders not preachers, statesmen and women not people who will make the Turukanas stateless. god save Kenya from our gluttony and greed then maybe then will our oil become our wealth 10 years down the road , hope we live to still have a country to be proud of and not another Ogoni massacre Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 04:09:08 -0700 From: jwalu@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: mudii_aradi@hotmail.com #TurkanaOil is now trending worldwide on Twitter. Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati, do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs? walu. --- On Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> wrote: From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012. see: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm Best Alice _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mudii_aradi%40hotmail.c... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Confirmed by the BBC about an hour ago. Daniel Waweru www.kenyaimagine.com Art and analysis; debate and opinion. On 26 March 2012 13:36, mudii aradi <mudii_aradi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Oil is not new to Africa nor will renew our economy, for as long as we want to eat the cake before we bake it we shall all but be kicking each other in the teeth trying to allocate ourselves a natural resource found in the midst of forgotten Kenyans. With all its resource wealth, DRC Congo is still a battlefield. lets all vote in leaders not preachers, statesmen and women not people who will make the Turukanas stateless. god save Kenya from our gluttony and greed then maybe then will our oil become our wealth 10 years down the road , hope we live to still have a country to be proud of and not another Ogoni massacre
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 04:09:08 -0700 From: jwalu@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: mudii_aradi@hotmail.com
#TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
--- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org>* wrote:
From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
see:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
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It shocks me that people go to the BBC to confirm news that has been reported by local media. On 26 March 2012 16:00, Daniel Waweru <daniel.waweru@gmail.com> wrote:
Confirmed by the BBC about an hour ago.
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On 26 March 2012 13:36, mudii aradi <mudii_aradi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Oil is not new to Africa nor will renew our economy, for as long as we want to eat the cake before we bake it we shall all but be kicking each other in the teeth trying to allocate ourselves a natural resource found in the midst of forgotten Kenyans. With all its resource wealth, DRC Congo is still a battlefield. lets all vote in leaders not preachers, statesmen and women not people who will make the Turukanas stateless. god save Kenya from our gluttony and greed then maybe then will our oil become our wealth 10 years down the road , hope we live to still have a country to be proud of and not another Ogoni massacre
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 04:09:08 -0700 From: jwalu@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: mudii_aradi@hotmail.com
#TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
--- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org>* wrote:
From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
see:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
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On 26 March 2012 17:06, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
It shocks me that people go to the BBC to confirm news that has been reported by local media.
I wish there was a like button to this post. I'd have said the same. Maybe we have 'lost' confidence and trust with the local media.
On 26 March 2012 16:00, Daniel Waweru <daniel.waweru@gmail.com> wrote:
Confirmed by the BBC about an hour ago.
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On 26 March 2012 13:36, mudii aradi <mudii_aradi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Oil is not new to Africa nor will renew our economy, for as long as we want to eat the cake before we bake it we shall all but be kicking each other in the teeth trying to allocate ourselves a natural resource found in the midst of forgotten Kenyans. With all its resource wealth, DRC Congo is still a battlefield. lets all vote in leaders not preachers, statesmen and women not people who will make the Turukanas stateless. god save Kenya from our gluttony and greed then maybe then will our oil become our wealth 10 years down the road , hope we live to still have a country to be proud of and not another Ogoni massacre
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 04:09:08 -0700 From: jwalu@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: mudii_aradi@hotmail.com
#TurkanaOil <https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23TurkanaOil> is now trending worldwide on Twitter.
Just wondering, @ Mugo Kibati,
do re-write our V2030? Particularly sections relating to BPO/ITES...it might be that our answer to being a middle-income country by 2030 is through black gold and not ICTs?
walu.
--- On *Sat, 3/24/12, alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org>* wrote:
From: alice@apc.org <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] DNS Security Stability and Resiliency review draft report To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Saturday, March 24, 2012, 9:55 PM
ICANN's Security, Stability & Resiliency of the DNS Review Team (SSR -RT) released its Draft Report and Recommendations for public comments . Comment period closes April 30, 2012.
see:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ssrt-draft-report-15mar12-en.htm
Best Alice
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participants (18)
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alice＠apc.org -
arebacollins＠gmail.com -
bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
Daniel Waweru -
Dennis Kioko -
Edith Adera -
Evans Ikua -
Francis Hook -
james ratemo -
justus wamukoya -
Kivuva -
Lucy Kimani -
mudii aradi -
Mugo Kibati -
mugo＠vision2030.go.ke
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S.M. Muraya -
Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau -
Walubengo J