6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers, This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide.. walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
Walu, I wish we would have an open debate on the pro's and cons of this project to see how best it can be implemented, however it seems any different opinion means opposing the project. Best Regards On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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This project is fraught with too many challenges and the jubilee admin should not proceed as if its survival and life depends on it. A radical decision needs to be made otherwise it will turn out to be its greatest undoing, and a political weapon. There is urgent need for a reality check. If it was left to me, I would bury it overnight. Damn the political consequences. Reason must prevail over populism and sentimentalism. How many more urgent neeeds are there to fix our primary education - frm teachers to classrooms and basic things before you climb up the technology ladder? Elementary things first. Let's equip all secondary schools with computer labs before we escalate that to primary schools in the next phase (5yrs down the road) Makali Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+dmakali=yahoo.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 12:01:03 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmakali%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
@Makali, I agree with you. Some serious thinking through is needed. There is need for a strategy on the entire undertaking and the need to get it right from the outset. RgdsGG
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This project is fraught with too many challenges and the jubilee admin should not proceed as if its survival and life depends on it. A radical decision needs to be made otherwise it will turn out to be its greatest undoing, and a political weapon.
There is urgent need for a reality check. If it was left to me, I would bury it overnight. Damn the political consequences. Reason must prevail over populism and sentimentalism. How many more urgent neeeds are there to fix our primary education - frm teachers to classrooms and basic things before you climb up the technology ladder? Elementary things first. Let's equip all secondary schools with computer labs before we escalate that to primary schools in the next phase (5yrs down the road)
Makali Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Makali, You spoke like 35 wise men, its unfortunate the technocrats are not taking heed. Best Regards On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM, <dmakali@yahoo.com> wrote:
This project is fraught with too many challenges and the jubilee admin should not proceed as if its survival and life depends on it. A radical decision needs to be made otherwise it will turn out to be its greatest undoing, and a political weapon.
There is urgent need for a reality check. If it was left to me, I would bury it overnight. Damn the political consequences. Reason must prevail over populism and sentimentalism. How many more urgent neeeds are there to fix our primary education - frm teachers to classrooms and basic things before you climb up the technology ladder? Elementary things first. Let's equip all secondary schools with computer labs before we escalate that to primary schools in the next phase (5yrs down the road)
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Makali, I believe the same argument you are propagating was put forward when some forward looking government promised to replace the slate and chalk with exercise books and pencils. Regards "Reach for the moon, at the least you will get to the clouds" Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: "dmakali@yahoo.com" <dmakali@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 12:49 Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project This project is fraught with too many challenges and the jubilee admin should not proceed as if its survival and life depends on it. A radical decision needs to be made otherwise it will turn out to be its greatest undoing, and a political weapon. There is urgent need for a reality check. If it was left to me, I would bury it overnight. Damn the political consequences. Reason must prevail over populism and sentimentalism. How many more urgent neeeds are there to fix our primary education - frm teachers to classrooms and basic things before you climb up the technology ladder? Elementary things first. Let's equip all secondary schools with computer labs before we escalate that to primary schools in the next phase (5yrs down the road) Makali Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+dmakali=yahoo.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 12:01:03 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmakali%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
We cannot securely store or even stock books in classrooms and libraries. We should provide children with access to devices that can store ebooks (and save trees). We need devices that can receive digital tv (educational media). Children can watch animations on how blood flows through the human body or how germs replicate or how atoms are believed to function. I do not understand pastoralism/pastoralists, but they need mobile education if they will not go to classrooms. Maybe then, they would ranch (and cattle rustle less) if they could ranch more. On May 30, 2013 5:50 PM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Makali,
I believe the same argument you are propagating was put forward when some forward looking government promised to replace the slate and chalk with exercise books and pencils.
Regards
"Reach for the moon, at the least you will get to the clouds"
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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This project is fraught with too many challenges and the jubilee admin should not proceed as if its survival and life depends on it. A radical decision needs to be made otherwise it will turn out to be its greatest undoing, and a political weapon.
There is urgent need for a reality check. If it was left to me, I would bury it overnight. Damn the political consequences. Reason must prevail over populism and sentimentalism. How many more urgent neeeds are there to fix our primary education - frm teachers to classrooms and basic things before you climb up the technology ladder? Elementary things first. Let's equip all secondary schools with computer labs before we escalate that to primary schools in the next phase (5yrs down the road)
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Great ideas Muraya. It occurred to me that the syllabus could even be produce in module form with quizzes after each module and a major test after each topic for self-pace learning, much like what is done for distance/online courses. This would be very useful for students to repeat topics that they found difficult at their own time. Let the ideas flow. Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of S.M. Muraya Sent: May 30, 2013 6:43 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project We cannot securely store or even stock books in classrooms and libraries. We should provide children with access to devices that can store ebooks (and save trees). We need devices that can receive digital tv (educational media). Children can watch animations on how blood flows through the human body or how germs replicate or how atoms are believed to function. I do not understand pastoralism/pastoralists, but they need mobile education if they will not go to classrooms. Maybe then, they would ranch (and cattle rustle less) if they could ranch more. On May 30, 2013 5:50 PM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote: Makali, I believe the same argument you are propagating was put forward when some forward looking government promised to replace the slate and chalk with exercise books and pencils. Regards "Reach for the moon, at the least you will get to the clouds" Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: "dmakali@yahoo.com<mailto:dmakali@yahoo.com>" <dmakali@yahoo.com<mailto:dmakali@yahoo.com>> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 12:49 Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project This project is fraught with too many challenges and the jubilee admin should not proceed as if its survival and life depends on it. A radical decision needs to be made otherwise it will turn out to be its greatest undoing, and a political weapon. There is urgent need for a reality check. If it was left to me, I would bury it overnight. Damn the political consequences. Reason must prevail over populism and sentimentalism. How many more urgent neeeds are there to fix our primary education - frm teachers to classrooms and basic things before you climb up the technology ladder? Elementary things first. Let's equip all secondary schools with computer labs before we escalate that to primary schools in the next phase (5yrs down the road) Makali Sent from my BlackBerry(r) -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+dmakali=yahoo.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:yahoo.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 12:01:03 To: <dmakali@yahoo.com<mailto:dmakali@yahoo.com>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmakali%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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While it sucks for the students without electricity, I'm not sure if I would make a different choice. If I were in charge, I would just take the money and invest in teachers and increasing the number of grades for which free schooling is available. Well educated people existed before computers and this focus on what I would call vocational training (i.e. how to use a computer) is shortsighted. But anyway, with a fixed bag of money and a mandate to get these computers out and not every school having electricity, that's the only logical choice. The purpose of the computers is to raise the educational attainment of the country's young people as a whole and those with electricity access will be cheaper to educate using computers than those without computers. IMHO, the problem is the whole laptop endeavour, not the implementation. --- OpenStack for Africa: http://signup.kili.io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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But anyway, with a fixed bag of money and a mandate to get these computers out and not every school having electricity, that's the only logical choice.
@Adam, you missed the point - that I believe Prof. Kaimenyi is too clever to have missed - which is that; - the fixed bag of money is "public" TAX payers money and not private equity. Public money MUST be spent equitably or at least be seen to have been spent equitably. The current laptop criterion as reported in the press entrenches the principle of "those who have resources will infact get more resources, while those who lack resources will infact be marginalized even further". This is fundamentally discriminatory (that is why I thought Mutoro will be excited :-) and is indeed the main reason why we re-wrote our constitution in favour of devolved governments. A better selection approach given limited funding would have been to say that with the 22Billions shillings for laptops, I will share out this bugdet equally amongst the 47 counties. Those counties with better infrastructure (electricity etc) can then provide the laptops to to more primary schools within their counties, while those with limited infrastructure can chose to equip the few facility-ready primary schools and then use the balance of monies to mature the infrastructure (put in electricity). Bottom line, no region in Kenya feels short-changed. But as Yawe argues in his post, the electricity thing might just be diversionary since the same budget makes provision for the solar-driven systems. I know folks on this list who are part of this laptop project and I wish they could share the details because after all, Prof. Kaimenyi may have just been misquoted and we are here ventilating on imaginery government positions. But then again, government is "Siri-kali" and folks may not be authorised to talk... walu. ________________________________ From: Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project While it sucks for the students without electricity, I'm not sure if I would make a different choice. If I were in charge, I would just take the money and invest in teachers and increasing the number of grades for which free schooling is available. Well educated people existed before computers and this focus on what I would call vocational training (i.e. how to use a computer) is shortsighted. But anyway, with a fixed bag of money and a mandate to get these computers out and not every school having electricity, that's the only logical choice. The purpose of the computers is to raise the educational attainment of the country's young people as a whole and those with electricity access will be cheaper to educate using computers than those without computers. IMHO, the problem is the whole laptop endeavour, not the implementation. --- OpenStack for Africa: http://signup.kili.io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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We made our bed on March 4th. Let us now sleep in it! On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
*From:* Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote
But anyway, with a fixed bag of money and a mandate to get these computers out and not every school having electricity, that's the only logical choice.
@Adam,
you missed the point - that I believe Prof. Kaimenyi is too clever to have missed - which is that; - the fixed bag of money is "public" TAX payers money and not private equity. Public money MUST be spent equitably or at least be seen to have been spent equitably.
The current laptop criterion as reported in the press entrenches the principle of "those who have resources will infact get more resources, while those who lack resources will infact be marginalized even further". This is fundamentally discriminatory (that is why I thought Mutoro will be excited :-) and is indeed the main reason why we re-wrote our constitution in favour of devolved governments.
A better selection approach given limited funding would have been to say that with the 22Billions shillings for laptops, I will share out this bugdet equally amongst the 47 counties. Those counties with better infrastructure (electricity etc) can then provide the laptops to to more primary schools within their counties, while those with limited infrastructure can chose to equip the few facility-ready primary schools and then use the balance of monies to mature the infrastructure (put in electricity). Bottom line, no region in Kenya feels short-changed.
But as Yawe argues in his post, the electricity thing might just be diversionary since the same budget makes provision for the solar-driven systems. I know folks on this list who are part of this laptop project and I wish they could share the details because after all, Prof. Kaimenyi may have just been misquoted and we are here ventilating on imaginery government positions.
But then again, government is "Siri-kali" and folks may not be authorised to talk...
walu.
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While it sucks for the students without electricity, I'm not sure if I would make a different choice.
If I were in charge, I would just take the money and invest in teachers and increasing the number of grades for which free schooling is available. Well educated people existed before computers and this focus on what I would call vocational training (i.e. how to use a computer) is shortsighted.
But anyway, with a fixed bag of money and a mandate to get these computers out and not every school having electricity, that's the only logical choice. The purpose of the computers is to raise the educational attainment of the country's young people as a whole and those with electricity access will be cheaper to educate using computers than those without computers.
IMHO, the problem is the whole laptop endeavour, not the implementation.
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On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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Walu, Please stop speed reading, as part of the costs are solar panels therefore making the selection process a farce, please also read my post about Chipuka Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 11:45 Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Listers, This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide.. walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Walu, In addition to clear "marginalization", I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer's for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A "how to do guide" was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book - I'm sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK. Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn't across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence! We don't seem interested in getting the model right, but "ticking the political box" saying that "laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical! This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start. The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder's forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions! Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Listers, This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide.. walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @ http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-... But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter. Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same. walu. ________________________________ From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Walu, In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK. Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence! We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical! This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start. The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions! Edith From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Listers, This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid.... adopted from http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000084770&story_title=6-000-primary-schools-picked-for-free-laptop-project&pageNo=2 Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide.. walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
Hi Walu et al. Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following: 1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results. 2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose. 3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology. I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country. I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought. Regards. John Matogo On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
*From:* Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J *Sent:* May 30, 2013 11:46 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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Bottom line, Need for further stakeholder engagement before implementation, maybe it has already been done, any lurkers in the know?, who knows the new Cabinet Secretaries twitter handle we notify him as soon as possible? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
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On May 31, 2013, at 12:54 AM, John Matogo <jmatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
*From:* Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J *Sent:* May 30, 2013 11:46 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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Dear John, Interesting perspectives. I differ with your assertion that "There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology" - I funded a "technology integration program into the curriculum" in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) - that's actually the CORE of what creates the transformation! The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case KIE - not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the "digital content" based on the national curriculum - this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension. Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits. Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste disposal). Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Hi Walu et al. Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following: 1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results. 2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose. 3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology. I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country. I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought. Regards. John Matogo On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @ http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-... But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter. Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same. walu. ________________________________ From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Walu, In addition to clear "marginalization", I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer's for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A "how to do guide" was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book - I'm sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK. Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn't across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence! We don't seem interested in getting the model right, but "ticking the political box" saying that "laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical! This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start. The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder's forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions! Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Listers, This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide.. walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmatogo%40strathmore.e... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, John Matogo Manager Incubation Centre, @iBizAfrica Strathmore University P.O. Box 59857-00200 Nairobi, KENYA Tel: +254 070 303 4280 (direct line) Personal Mobile:+254 722 813 533 Twitter: @jmatogo LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/avcn7qu Web: www.strathmore.edu<http://www.strathmore.edu> and http://www.ibizafrica.co.ke/ Note: All emails sent from Strathmore University are subject to Strathmore's Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here<http://www.strathmore.edu/aboutus.php?id=184> to read the policy. "Visit our Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/StrathmoreUniversity> Page and Twitter <https://twitter.com/StrathU> Account".
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next. That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future. Muchiri ************************* sent from my mobile device. On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,****
** **
Interesting perspectives.****
** **
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation! ****
** **
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension. ** **
** **
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.****
** **
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste disposal).****
** **
Edith****
** **
** **
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *John Matogo *Sent:* May 31, 2013 12:54 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
** **
Hi Walu et al.****
** **
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:****
** **
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.****
** **
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.****
** **
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.****
** **
** **
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.****
** **
I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.****
** **
Regards.****
** **
John Matogo****
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:****
*From:* Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.****
** **
walu.****
** ** ------------------------------
*From:* Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
** **
Walu,****
****
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.****
****
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!****
****
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical! ****
****
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.****
****
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!*** *
****
Edith****
****
****
****
****
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Walubengo J *Sent:* May 30, 2013 11:46 AM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project ****
****
Listers,****
****
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:****
****
****
****
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria.****
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....****
****
****
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..****
****
walu.****
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)****
****
****
****
** **
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Muchiri, You MUST get "pilots" right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots don't mean that you do things "jua kali" Edith From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next. That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future. Muchiri ************************* sent from my mobile device. On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: Dear John, Interesting perspectives. I differ with your assertion that "There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology" - I funded a "technology integration program into the curriculum" in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) - that's actually the CORE of what creates the transformation! The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case KIE - not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the "digital content" based on the national curriculum - this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension. Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits. Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste disposal). Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of John Matogo Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Hi Walu et al. Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following: 1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results. 2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose. 3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology. I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country. I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought. Regards. John Matogo On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @ http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-... But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter. Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same. walu. ________________________________ From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Walu, In addition to clear "marginalization", I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer's for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A "how to do guide" was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book - I'm sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK. Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn't across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence! We don't seem interested in getting the model right, but "ticking the political box" saying that "laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical! This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start. The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder's forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions! Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Listers, This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria. In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide.. walu. nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmatogo%40strathmore.e... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, John Matogo Manager Incubation Centre, @iBizAfrica Strathmore University P.O. Box 59857-00200 Nairobi, KENYA Tel: +254 070 303 4280<tel:%2B254%20070%20303%204280> (direct line) Personal Mobile:+254 722 813 533<tel:%2B254%20722%20813%20533> Twitter: @jmatogo LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/avcn7qu Web: www.strathmore.edu<http://www.strathmore.edu> and http://www.ibizafrica.co.ke/ Note: All emails sent from Strathmore University are subject to Strathmore's Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here<http://www.strathmore.edu/aboutus.php?id=184> to read the policy. "Visit our Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/StrathmoreUniversity> Page and Twitter <https://twitter.com/StrathU> Account". _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muchiri%40semacraft.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. Muchiri ************************* sent from my mobile device. On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots
don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for a
more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to
achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
************************* sent from my mobile device.
On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when
deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case
KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You
must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste
disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils.
I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices
could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet
choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst.
Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with
the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any
technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet
Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing
to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
________________________________
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>;
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop
KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> project
Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there has
been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t across
Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the
political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s
forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
adopted from
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now
it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in
courts :-)
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+1 From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 1:07 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. Muchiri ************************* sent from my mobile device. On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get "pilots" right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots don't mean that you do things "jua kali"
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com<mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com>] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
************************* sent from my mobile device.
On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that "There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology" - I funded a "technology integration program into the curriculum" in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) - that's actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case KIE - not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the "digital content" based on the national curriculum - this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of John Matogo Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
________________________________
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Walu,
In addition to clear "marginalization", I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer's for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A "how to do guide" was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book - I'm sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn't across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don't seem interested in getting the model right, but "ticking the political box" saying that "laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder's forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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Dear Edith. Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email. Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia... My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-) Best. JM On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
+1****
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*From:* Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 1:07 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. ****
Muchiri****
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On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots
don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for
a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to
achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
************************* sent from my mobile device.
On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when
deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case
KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative.
You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe
eWaste disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one
pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices
could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet
choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst.
Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with
the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any
technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet
Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing
to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
________________________________
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>;
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop
KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> project
Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there
has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t
across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the
political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s
forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
adopted from
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now
it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in
courts :-)
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John, Project in Uganda - you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) - project CurriculumNet. There're lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled "Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet" may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education. Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important - the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it's not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students. Last point, it's important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures! I rest my case. Edith From: John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu] Sent: May 31, 2013 2:35 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Dear Edith. Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email. Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia... My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-) Best. JM On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: +1 From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com<mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com>] Sent: May 31, 2013 1:07 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. Muchiri ************************* sent from my mobile device. On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get "pilots" right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots don't mean that you do things "jua kali"
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com<mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com>] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
************************* sent from my mobile device.
On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that "There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology" - I funded a "technology integration program into the curriculum" in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) - that's actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case KIE - not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the "digital content" based on the national curriculum - this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of John Matogo Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
________________________________
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Walu,
In addition to clear "marginalization", I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer's for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A "how to do guide" was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book - I'm sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn't across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don't seem interested in getting the model right, but "ticking the political box" saying that "laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder's forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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John, I may add, your point on avoiding "pilotosis" is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book. Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: May 31, 2013 3:13 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project John, Project in Uganda - you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) - project CurriculumNet. There're lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled "Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet" may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education. Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important - the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it's not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students. Last point, it's important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures! I rest my case. Edith From: John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu]<mailto:[mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu]> Sent: May 31, 2013 2:35 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Dear Edith. Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email. Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia... My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-) Best. JM On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: +1 From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com<mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com>] Sent: May 31, 2013 1:07 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. Muchiri ************************* sent from my mobile device. On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get "pilots" right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots don't mean that you do things "jua kali"
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com<mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com>] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
************************* sent from my mobile device.
On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that "There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology" - I funded a "technology integration program into the curriculum" in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) - that's actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case KIE - not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the "digital content" based on the national curriculum - this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of John Matogo Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
________________________________
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Walu,
In addition to clear "marginalization", I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer's for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A "how to do guide" was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book - I'm sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn't across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don't seem interested in getting the model right, but "ticking the political box" saying that "laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder's forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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Hi Edith. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I am looking for action now. In messages below some colleagues are mentioning that we need to have a stakeholders workshop. I offer to host such a workshop. Edith will you buy the tea and Mandazi ;-) Who are the stakeholders? Let us get moving. Have a great weekend. Regards. John Matogo On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
John,****
** **
I may add, your point on avoiding “pilotosis” is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book.****
** **
Edith****
** **
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Edith Adera *Sent:* May 31, 2013 3:13 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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John,****
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Project in Uganda – you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) – project CurriculumNet.****
** **
There’re lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled “Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet” may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education.****
** **
Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important – the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it’s not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students.****
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Last point, it’s important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures! ****
** **
I rest my case.****
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Edith****
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** **
** **
*From:* John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 2:35 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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Dear Edith.****
Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email.****
Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia...****
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My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. ****
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Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-)*** *
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Best.****
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JM****
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:****
+1****
****
*From:* Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 1:07 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
****
True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. ****
Muchiri****
************************* sent from my mobile device.****
On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots
don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for
a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to
achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
************************* sent from my mobile device.
On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when
deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case
KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative.
You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe
eWaste disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one
pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices
could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet
choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst.
Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with
the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any
technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet
Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing
to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
________________________________
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>;
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Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there
has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t
across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the
political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s
forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
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Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
adopted from
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now
it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in
courts :-)
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Stakeholders I'd suggest are Kenya Primary School Heads Association, KIE, Kenya Publishers Association, Kenya Parents Teachers Association, Ministry of Education, Universities with teacher training programmes, civil society organizations working in the basic education space such as Uwezo, National Taxpayers Association etc and donors that fund programs related to primary education. Some way of incorporating feedback from the general public would be useful and media should be included as part of a process of this nature as both stakeholders and partners in dissemination. Any critical stakeholder I've missed? Kind regards, Muchiri Nyaggah @muchiri Cell: +254 722 506400 Skype: mrmuchiri On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:16 PM, John Matogo <jmatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:
Hi Edith. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I am looking for action now.
In messages below some colleagues are mentioning that we need to have a stakeholders workshop. I offer to host such a workshop. Edith will you buy the tea and Mandazi ;-)
Who are the stakeholders?
Let us get moving. Have a great weekend.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
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I may add, your point on avoiding “pilotosis” is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book.****
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Edith****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Edith Adera *Sent:* May 31, 2013 3:13 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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John,****
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Project in Uganda – you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) – project CurriculumNet.****
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There’re lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled “Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet” may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education.****
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Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important – the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it’s not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students.****
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Last point, it’s important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures!****
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I rest my case.****
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Edith****
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*From:* John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 2:35 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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Dear Edith.****
Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email.****
Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia...****
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My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. ****
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Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-)** **
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Best.****
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JM****
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:****
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*From:* Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 1:07 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. ****
Muchiri****
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On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots
don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for
a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to
achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
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On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when
deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our
case KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative.
You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe
eWaste disposal).
Edith
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Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one
pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices
could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet
choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst.
Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree
with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for
any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet
Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but
willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop
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Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there
has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t
across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the
political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s
forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
adopted from
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now
it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in
courts :-)
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I agree Muchiri plus KiCTANET and Ministry of Information members. However we need to know who is coordinating this project or is it a secret? any lurkers in he know? Best regards On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Muchiri Nyaggah <muchiri@semacraft.com>wrote:
Stakeholders I'd suggest are Kenya Primary School Heads Association, KIE, Kenya Publishers Association, Kenya Parents Teachers Association, Ministry of Education, Universities with teacher training programmes, civil society organizations working in the basic education space such as Uwezo, National Taxpayers Association etc and donors that fund programs related to primary education. Some way of incorporating feedback from the general public would be useful and media should be included as part of a process of this nature as both stakeholders and partners in dissemination. Any critical stakeholder I've missed?
Kind regards,
Muchiri Nyaggah @muchiri Cell: +254 722 506400 Skype: mrmuchiri
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:16 PM, John Matogo <jmatogo@strathmore.edu>wrote:
Hi Edith. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I am looking for action now.
In messages below some colleagues are mentioning that we need to have a stakeholders workshop. I offer to host such a workshop. Edith will you buy the tea and Mandazi ;-)
Who are the stakeholders?
Let us get moving. Have a great weekend.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
John,****
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I may add, your point on avoiding “pilotosis” is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book.****
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Edith****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Edith Adera *Sent:* May 31, 2013 3:13 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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John,****
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Project in Uganda – you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) – project CurriculumNet.*** *
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There’re lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled “Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet” may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education.****
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Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important – the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it’s not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students.****
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Last point, it’s important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures!****
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Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia... ****
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My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. ****
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Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-)* ***
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True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. ****
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On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability.
Pilots don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation
for a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking
to achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
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On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures
when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our
case KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative.
You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe
eWaste disposal).
Edith
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Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one
pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices
could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet
choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst.
Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree
with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some
months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for
any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet
Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but
willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop
KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> project
Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there
has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t
across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the
political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s
forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
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Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was
wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of
electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
adopted from
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But
now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in
courts :-)
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John/Muchiri, I see Bwana Ndemo suggesting to enlist the CS and PS education on the list - that's a great move to take this debate to the next level of action. Kudos John for volunteering yourself to move us to action. Next step? I guess we can all contribute, but I would imagine the CS and PS education would want to host such a meeting as the owners, right? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Muchiri Nyaggah Sent: May 31, 2013 7:16 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Stakeholders I'd suggest are Kenya Primary School Heads Association, KIE, Kenya Publishers Association, Kenya Parents Teachers Association, Ministry of Education, Universities with teacher training programmes, civil society organizations working in the basic education space such as Uwezo, National Taxpayers Association etc and donors that fund programs related to primary education. Some way of incorporating feedback from the general public would be useful and media should be included as part of a process of this nature as both stakeholders and partners in dissemination. Any critical stakeholder I've missed? Kind regards, Muchiri Nyaggah @muchiri Cell: +254 722 506400 Skype: mrmuchiri On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:16 PM, John Matogo <jmatogo@strathmore.edu<mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu>> wrote: Hi Edith. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I am looking for action now. In messages below some colleagues are mentioning that we need to have a stakeholders workshop. I offer to host such a workshop. Edith will you buy the tea and Mandazi ;-) Who are the stakeholders? Let us get moving. Have a great weekend. Regards. John Matogo On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: John, I may add, your point on avoiding "pilotosis" is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book. Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: May 31, 2013 3:13 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project John, Project in Uganda - you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) - project CurriculumNet. There're lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled "Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet" may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education. Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important - the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it's not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students. Last point, it's important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures! I rest my case. Edith From: John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu]<mailto:[mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu]> Sent: May 31, 2013 2:35 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Dear Edith. Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email. Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia... My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-) Best. JM On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote: +1 From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com<mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com>] Sent: May 31, 2013 1:07 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. Muchiri ************************* sent from my mobile device. On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get "pilots" right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots don't mean that you do things "jua kali"
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com<mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com>] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
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On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that "There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology" - I funded a "technology integration program into the curriculum" in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) - that's actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case KIE - not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the "digital content" based on the national curriculum - this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of John Matogo Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
________________________________
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca<mailto:eadera@idrc.ca>> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Walu,
In addition to clear "marginalization", I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer's for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A "how to do guide" was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book - I'm sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn't across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don't seem interested in getting the model right, but "ticking the political box" saying that "laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago - were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder's forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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Dear Edith. I agree with you, the Ministry should steer the process. My offer still stands. If there are people with the right contacts that can relay this offer please do so. Dr. Ndemo could you please guide and/or link us to the appropriate contacts to move us forward. Who will coordinate? Possibly someone from the Ministry? Just my thoughts. Is the list of Stake holders that Muchiri generated complete? I think the sooner we get these going, the better and we can then get a tentative date. Regards. John Matogo Manager Incubation Centre, @iBizAfrica Strathmore University P.O. Box 59857-00200 Nairobi, KENYA Tel: +254 070 303 4280 (direct line) Personal Mobile:+254 722 813 533 Twitter: @jmatogo LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/avcn7qu Web: www.strathmore.edu and http://www.ibizafrica.co.ke/ On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
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I see Bwana Ndemo suggesting to enlist the CS and PS education on the list – that’s a great move to take this debate to the next level of action. Kudos John for volunteering yourself to move us to action. ****
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Next step? I guess we can all contribute, but I would imagine the CS and PS education would want to host such a meeting as the owners, right?****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Muchiri Nyaggah *Sent:* May 31, 2013 7:16 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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Stakeholders I'd suggest are Kenya Primary School Heads Association, KIE, Kenya Publishers Association, Kenya Parents Teachers Association, Ministry of Education, Universities with teacher training programmes, civil society organizations working in the basic education space such as Uwezo, National Taxpayers Association etc and donors that fund programs related to primary education. Some way of incorporating feedback from the general public would be useful and media should be included as part of a process of this nature as both stakeholders and partners in dissemination. Any critical stakeholder I've missed?****
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:16 PM, John Matogo <jmatogo@strathmore.edu> wrote:****
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Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I am looking for action now.****
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In messages below some colleagues are mentioning that we need to have a stakeholders workshop. I offer to host such a workshop. Edith will you buy the tea and Mandazi ;-)****
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Who are the stakeholders?****
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Let us get moving. Have a great weekend.****
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:****
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I may add, your point on avoiding “pilotosis” is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book.****
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*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Edith Adera *Sent:* May 31, 2013 3:13 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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Project in Uganda – you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) – project CurriculumNet.****
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There’re lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled “Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet” may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education.****
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Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important – the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it’s not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students.****
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Last point, it’s important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures! ****
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I rest my case.****
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*From:* John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 2:35 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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Dear Edith.****
Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email.****
Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia...****
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My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. ****
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Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-)*** *
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:****
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*From:* Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 1:07 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project****
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True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. ****
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On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots
don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for
a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to
achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
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On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when
deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case
KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative.
You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe
eWaste disposal).
Edith
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idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one
pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices
could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet
choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst.
Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with
the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any
technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet
Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing
to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
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KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> project
Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there
has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t
across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the
political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s
forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
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Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
adopted from
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now
it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in
courts :-)
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I may add, your point on avoiding “pilotosis” is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book. Edith From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: May 31, 2013 3:13 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project John, Project in Uganda – you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) – project CurriculumNet. There’re lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled “Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet” may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education. Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important – the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it’s not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students. Last point, it’s important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures! I rest my case. Edith From:John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu] Sent: May 31, 2013 2:35 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Dear Edith. Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email. Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia... My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-) Best. JM On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote: +1 From:Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 1:07 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. Muchiri ************************* sent from my mobile device. On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
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On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program
into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum
approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative. You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other
benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe eWaste disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project,
I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of
@ Matogo, +1 I like the "action" bit. We have to move our ideas off the cyberspace into the real world. Am told Peter Kenneth lost the election because he was tallying the n0. of his facebook "likes" and his tweeter "followers" :-). But I digress... The point is we need to get off our keyboards and manage our country as citizens. If Matogo is offering the venue @ Strath Univ I believe, I will offer to give a paper on the pros and cons of the project, Media (any of KBC, NTV, Citizen, et al?) can offer to cover the event, participants can offer to buy lunch/snacks, etc, etc. In other words, lets not wait for the official government to organise this because they have too many other pressing issues to deal with. But if we + media lead the way, they will find it hard to ignore our input. walu. ________________________________ From: John Matogo <jmatogo@strathmore.edu> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [mediaeditors] [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project Hi Edith. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I am looking for action now. In messages below some colleagues are mentioning that we need to have a stakeholders workshop. I offer to host such a workshop. Edith will you buy the tea and Mandazi ;-) Who are the stakeholders? Let us get moving. Have a great weekend. Regards. John Matogo On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote: John, the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst. Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo
(teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach
on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to
"expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
________________________________
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools
for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing
technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana,
Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in courts :-)
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Good idea Walu, Are technocrats banned from commenting on list serves? There is deafening silence from colleagues in government quarters. Best Regards On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@ Matogo, +1
I like the "action" bit. We have to move our ideas off the cyberspace into the real world. Am told Peter Kenneth lost the election because he was tallying the n0. of his facebook "likes" and his tweeter "followers" :-). But I digress...
The point is we need to get off our keyboards and manage our country as citizens. If Matogo is offering the venue @ Strath Univ I believe, I will offer to give a paper on the pros and cons of the project, Media (any of KBC, NTV, Citizen, et al?) can offer to cover the event, participants can offer to buy lunch/snacks, etc, etc.
In other words, lets not wait for the official government to organise this because they have too many other pressing issues to deal with. But if we + media lead the way, they will find it hard to ignore our input.
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* John Matogo <jmatogo@strathmore.edu> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum <mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 6:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [mediaeditors] [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Hi Edith. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I am looking for action now.
In messages below some colleagues are mentioning that we need to have a stakeholders workshop. I offer to host such a workshop. Edith will you buy the tea and Mandazi ;-)
Who are the stakeholders?
Let us get moving. Have a great weekend.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
John,**** ** ** I may add, your point on avoiding “pilotosis” is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book.**** ** ** Edith**** ** ** *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Edith Adera *Sent:* May 31, 2013 3:13 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project**** ** ** John,**** ** ** Project in Uganda – you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) – project CurriculumNet.**** ** ** There’re lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled “Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet” may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education.**** ** ** Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important – the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it’s not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students.**** ** ** Last point, it’s important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures! **** ** ** I rest my case.**** ** ** Edith**** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 2:35 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project**** ** ** Dear Edith.**** Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email.**** Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia...** ** ** ** My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. **** ** ** Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-)** ** ** ** Best.**** ** ** JM**** On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:**** +1**** **** *From:* Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 1:07 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project**** **** True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. **** Muchiri**** ************************* sent from my mobile device.**** On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots
don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for
a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to
achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
************************* sent from my mobile device.
On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when
deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case
KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative.
You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe
eWaste disposal).
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one
pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices
could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet
choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst.
Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with
the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any
technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet
Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing
to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
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Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there
has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t
across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the
political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s
forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
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Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
adopted from
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now
it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in
courts :-)
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Project is being coordinated by Ministry of Education. I will ask the PS and CS if they can be guests on this list. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:17:02 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum<mediaeditors@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6000 primary schools picked for free laptop project-Action time? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
I believe this is the correct approach. It is important to reinforce this matter as a pedagogy rather than technology issue. On Sat, Jun 1, 2013, at 09:00 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
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Many thanks Dr. Ndemo, seems like we were making noise in the wrong quarters, your initiative is welcome. I also agree with Dr. Siganga Best Regards On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:34 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
I believe this is the correct approach. It is important to reinforce this matter as a pedagogy rather than technology issue.
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This UNCTAD report could be of interest to some colleagues: [1]http://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/dtlstict2012d5_en.pdf References 1. http://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/dtlstict2012d5_en.pdf
Many thanks Dr. Ndemo, seems like we were making noise in the wrong quarters, your initiative is welcome. I also agree with Dr. Siganga Best Regards On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:34 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
I believe this is the correct approach. It is important to reinforce this matter as a pedagogy rather than technology issue.
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013, at 09:00 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Project is being coordinated by Ministry of Education. I will ask the PS and CS if they can be guests on this list.
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@ Walu I like the direction you want us to take this discussion - offline. Your sentiments reminds me of an article by Jasper Mbiuki. "That hashtag will never change the world; just get up and do something" The article reads in part....we must be careful not to retreat into an online world to the exclusion of the real world. If you care about a particular cause, by all means get involved online and highlight it......However, after that get involved in advancing your cause in the real world. There can be no substitute for knocking on doors and taking your message to the grassroots. To change the world requires more than a few tweets and posts. We must all roll up our sleeves and get involved..... Read the full article here<http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/-/440808/1865372/-/item/0/-/cukjeqz/-/index.html> Best Rgds On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@ Matogo, +1
I like the "action" bit. We have to move our ideas off the cyberspace into the real world. Am told Peter Kenneth lost the election because he was tallying the n0. of his facebook "likes" and his tweeter "followers" :-). But I digress...
The point is we need to get off our keyboards and manage our country as citizens. If Matogo is offering the venue @ Strath Univ I believe, I will offer to give a paper on the pros and cons of the project, Media (any of KBC, NTV, Citizen, et al?) can offer to cover the event, participants can offer to buy lunch/snacks, etc, etc.
In other words, lets not wait for the official government to organise this because they have too many other pressing issues to deal with. But if we + media lead the way, they will find it hard to ignore our input.
walu.
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Hi Edith. Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I am looking for action now.
In messages below some colleagues are mentioning that we need to have a stakeholders workshop. I offer to host such a workshop. Edith will you buy the tea and Mandazi ;-)
Who are the stakeholders?
Let us get moving. Have a great weekend.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
John,**** ** ** I may add, your point on avoiding “pilotosis” is actually one of the key lessons highlighted in the book.**** ** ** Edith**** ** ** *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera= idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Edith Adera *Sent:* May 31, 2013 3:13 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project**** ** ** John,**** ** ** Project in Uganda – you can get more details from the national curriculum development centre (NCDC, Uganda) – project CurriculumNet.**** ** ** There’re lots of lessons to learn e.g. a book we published summarizing lessons on schoolnetworking from 9 African countries entitled “Networking Institutions of Learning - SchoolNet” may be instructive. You can get a copy at http://web.idrc.ca/openebooks/008-x/, while covering the early-to-mid 2000s, it demonstrates the early lessons of pioneers in school networking in Africa. More work has been done by others e.g. ROCARE who have examined more African countries at all levels of education.**** ** ** Our entry point must be to enhance educational outcomes! So both content and skill is important – the content should largely follow the Kenyan educational curriculum and objectives (so it’s not just about picking any content though you can supplement). You cannot leave out the teachers, unfortunately, it has to be both teachers and students.**** ** ** Last point, it’s important, perhaps, most important to learn from failures! **** ** ** I rest my case.**** ** ** Edith**** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* John Matogo [mailto:jmatogo@strathmore.edu] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 2:35 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project**** ** ** Dear Edith.**** Thanks for your email. Just some quick reaction to your email.**** Kindly share more information about the project you run in Uganda. I also learning that Rwanda have a had a massive roll out of over 200k laptops in the past couple of years. Yes there are a number of failures just to mention a few Akasha 1 in India, Schoolnet project in Namibia...** ** ** ** My only reservation with your proposal is let us not focus on the teacher but on the children. There is already so much content available, let us not reinvent. Also we need to have in mind the goals of the education at the various stages for the children. This will help us focus on whether we concentrate on content (knowledge) or on skills. **** ** ** Another point of caution is let us not get paralyzed by Pilotosis.. :-)** ** ** ** Best.**** ** ** JM**** On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:**** +1**** **** *From:* Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] *Sent:* May 31, 2013 1:07 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Cc:* KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop project**** **** True. They need to allow stakeholders to interogate the design of it before it goes too far...at the very least in the spirit of public participation enshrined in the constitution. **** Muchiri**** ************************* sent from my mobile device.**** On May 31, 2013 12:56 PM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Muchiri,
You MUST get “pilots” right to achieve scale and sustainability. Pilots
don’t mean that you do things “jua kali”
Edith
From: Muchiri Nyaggah [mailto:muchiri@semacraft.com] Sent: May 31, 2013 12:45 PM
To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
project
I was under the impresion that this phase is a pilot in preparation for
a more widescale roll-out later in the year or early next.
That notwithstanding it would be great to hear what they are seeking to
achieve with this and how it will inform the project's future.
Muchiri
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On May 31, 2013 11:31 AM, "Edith Adera" <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote:
Dear John,
Interesting perspectives.
I differ with your assertion that “There are many massive failures when
deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology” – I funded a “technology integration program into the curriculum” in Uganda for 5 years (primary and secondary school levels) – that’s actually the CORE of what creates the transformation!
The trick is to work with the curriculum development agency (in our case
KIE – not sure what they have done to-date?); work with subject matter specialists - teachers; instructional designers and digital developers and follow the legal/statutory curriculum approval processes to approve the “digital content” based on the national curriculum – this allows scaling up easily. It is NOT about typing the text books into digital format, but enriching them and making them multimedia to enhance student comprehension.
Computers/laptops for the sake of laptops is not that transformative.
You must have the right digital educational content to enhance teaching, learning and performance. Our scientific evidence showed improved performance of 30-50%!! In addition to many other benefits.
Lastly, the entire model must be right, end-to-end (including safe
eWaste disposal).
Edith
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Sent: May 31, 2013 12:54 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet - Media Editors Forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 6, 000 primary schools picked for free laptop
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of John Matogo project
Hi Walu et al.
Interesting reading your perspectives on the laptop for class one
pupils. I am attending the eLearning Africa 2013 conference and talking to a number of experts who have research on this topic and soliciting their thoughts on how to roll out the project, I am also following discussions on experiences from other developing countries on similar initiatives. Some of the things that I am realizing are the following:
1. Not every child needs to get a personal device. A number of devices
could be provided to every school, possibly a lab type of environment or resource centre. Simple access/exposure to the technology to the students will have transformational results.
2. The choice of device(s) is also very important. A laptop or tablet
choice has merits and demerits. More so a tablet maybe useful in the early stages class 1-3 but higher than this a device with a keyboard is necessary. Also electricity requirements of the devices could be a consideration. Readers are also useful but for a different purpose.
3. Minimal supervision of the students is an important catalyst.
Therefore we may not have to focus so much on the teacher training aspect. If we do we will get stuck. The availability of the devices should not cause a planned disruption of the status quo (teaching methods of teachers) let it happen. The children will learn to use the technology and apply it to their learning when they see the opportunity presents itself. Similarly teachers will make use of the technology when they opportunity presents itself and when they become comfortable with the technology. There are many massive failures when deliberate efforts are made to incorporate the technology into the curriculum and/or modify the curriculum to incorporate the technology.
I think it is a great thing that we have these discussions, I agree with
the president, we must implement this promise. It is a big undertaking, but the results will transform our country.
I encourage you to see this short video
http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html that may give you food for thought.
Regards.
John Matogo
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.ca> wrote
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the >Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
Edith I summarized most of this lists arguments on a public blog for any
technocrat to read @
http://www.nation.co.ke/blogs/A-sober-take-on-laptops-for-class-one-pupils/-...
But perhaps they are too busy to read blogs. Perhaps the ICT Cabinet
Sec. might translate some of our divergent view into a formal government brief and share with his counterpart at the Ministry of education. Thereafter we except to hear an improved approach on this matter.
Personally I have been abit skeptical over the whole project but willing
to make the best out of it in terms of ideas. But if we deliberately? start off on a wrong note one begins to wonder if the objective has already been hijacked by folks who want to "expense" some billions rather than "invest" the same.
walu.
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop
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Walu,
In addition to clear “marginalization”, I wonder to what extent there
has been wide consultation to engage key stakeholders including those in the ICT industry who have rolled out computers in schools (e.g. computer for schools Kenya - CFSK; cyber schools for curriculum content etc etc) and to learn from the very many schoolnet programs in Kenya and Africa. For example, IDRC funded schoolnets in Africa (including in Kenya) for over 10 years, these lessons are well documented. E.g. an external evaluation of Computer’s for schools Kenya program of providing computers to schools is quite instructive and worth reading at http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/43675/1/130237.pdf . A “how to do guide” was also developed, documenting the entire cycle from sourcing the computers to eWaste management with lessons learned incorporated in the guide book – I’m sure copies can be gladly availed by CFSK.
Others have consolidated lessons about what works and what doesn’t
across Africa (e.g. ROCARE network of researchers studying computer programs in schools and the impacts in Africa). We should learn not to reinvent, but draw on evidence!
We don’t seem interested in getting the model right, but “ticking the
political box” saying that “laptops have been delivered by 1st January 2014! Looking at the entire cycle from procurement, teacher/student training, curriculum content provision, ongoing technical maintenance to eWaste disposal et etc is very critical!
This list had a fairly extended discussion on this program some months
ago – were these views consolidated and shared with the Ministry? Grace? Walu? I think it should be done as a start.
The Cabinet secretary should also be advised to hold a stakeholder’s
forum to discuss experience and lessons so we have sustainable interventions!
Edith
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
Sent: May 30, 2013 11:46 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] 6,000 primary schools picked for free laptop project
Listers,
This project seems to have just kicked off on the wrong tangent...was wondering how they would select WHICH primary schools would get the laptops and was shocked to read:
He (Kaimenyi, Cabinet Sec. for Education) said the availability of electricity and nearness to the main grid was the basis used in deciding
idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J the schools selection criteria.
In every three schools with electricity connection, the ministry has
selected one school close to the mains grid and another one that is far away from the grid....
adopted from
Never mind that I thought these laptops would "solar-powered". But now
it looks like if you are lucky to live near an electricity pole, your luck doubles as you get a bonus benefit of a laptop. If you happen to leave very far from one (think Pokot, Turkana, Tana River, Wajir, etc) your tough luck just got tougher. I cant think of a better way of "extending" rather than "bridging" the digital divide..
walu.
nb: Mutoro:-sounds like you guys are going to have a very busy year in
courts :-)
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participants (15)
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Adam Nelson
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Ali Hussein
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Amos Ochieng
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Barrack Otieno
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bitange@jambo.co.ke
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dmakali@yahoo.com
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Edith Adera
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Grace Githaiga
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John Matogo
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Muchiri Nyaggah
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Philip Adar
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robert yawe
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S.M. Muraya
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Walubengo J
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waudo siganga