Re: [kictanet] Does Anyone Know If "254" Had a Meaning? (Was ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan)
hi Look at the attachment and will see how ITU has assigned the codes. The information is from the internet www.wtng.info/wtng --- On Tue, 7/19/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Does Anyone Know If "254" Had a Meaning? (Was ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan) To: gathuri_njorohio@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 9:38 PM Dr. Ochuodho, 254 sounds cool, I guess its just a primary key to different nations, ITU being a global body is operated by resolutions agreed upon by members, just like ISO, WTO, lobbying and negotiations are a key component, considering the fact that we had East African Posts and Telecommunications when we got the code , it would be interesting to know how the decision was arrived at, as for the CCTLD, institutional mechanisms are well defined by ICANN and with increased involvement in ICANNs activities and support from bodies such as AFTLD .ss should be a reality sooner than we can imagine, well done though.. On 7/20/11, samuel ochanji <sochanji@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr Ochuodho,
Thanks for updating us on the events up North in Juba. Talking about the ccTLD, a lot of noise has been generated, as we inevitably expected, about South Sudan applying for .SS which has negative connotations to the
notorious Nazi era SS(Schutzstaffel) in Europe. I understand, from comments
made by Eng. Lugga to the press, that S. Sudan has already applied for .SS. Is there a "clause" in ISO rules or IANA that might prevent them from awarding .SS South Sudan perhaps based on "public interest" or any other excuse or are we likely to see .ss domains soon? Kindly clarify of us.
Best wishes as you help build this new and promising nation! Rgds
________________________________ From: Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> To: sochanji@yahoo.com Cc: Madaraka Party <madaraka-kenya@yahoogroups.com>; NVK-Mageuzi Juba-Caucus <NVK-M-Juba-Caucus@yahoogroups.com>; "g47-kenya@yahoogroups.com" <g47-kenya@yahoogroups.com>; ProgressiveMinds <progressiveminds@yahoogroups.com>; NVK Youth <nvk-youth@yahoogroups.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Does Anyone Know If "254" Had a Meaning? (Was ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan)
Friends,
Sincere thanks for the compliments. However, there wasn't really any magic: we simply happened to be in the right places at the right time. Thanks to history!
Nonetheless, for those of us who might not have been there at the time Kenya acquired its code: could there be any in our midst who knows "why 254"? I know it is NOT the prerogative of a country to choose a code. But in the same vein, I am aware it is not prohibited for countries to request. Word has it "292" had been earmarked for us (after Eritrea - "291")!
On receiving this information, a Ugandan friend remarked: "You mean such 'pretty' numbers existed ........ better TZ's '255'"! No wonder US/North America 'picked' "1", and Great Britain "44"! Can someone enlighten me why "254"?
Thanks too to those inquiring about the ccTLD (Internet Domain). I can only say: "Coming Soon". Numerous steps to go through, but nearly there.
Best rgrds, Shem
________________________________ From: Michael A. Asudi <michael.asudi@gmail.com> To: NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com Cc: g47-kenya@yahoogroups.com; Madaraka Party
<madaraka-kenya@yahoogroups.com>; ProgressiveMinds
<progressiveminds@yahoogroups.com>; NVK-Mageuzi Juba-Caucus <NVK-M-Juba-Caucus@yahoogroups.com>; NVK Youth <nvk-youth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2011, 20:52 Subject: Re: [NVK-Mageuzi] Re: [g47-kenya] Congratulations Dr. Shem (Was ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan)
Great work Now S. Sudan joins the global world Keep up Doc
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Silas Owiti Mudekhere <mudekhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. Ochuodho,
Congratulations are perfectly in order! Last evening, while attending to one of my "Juakalis" I got that info and was very delighted. What thrills me is the sacrifice some of you visioners have made to make some of these things work. As important as the symbolism of the code numbers assigned are, I am alive to the tribulations that the technical people and the kind of capacity building processes required to make this a reality. I am yet to see an Engineer and IT geek that is so committed, yet humble to work behind the scenes in difficult conditions to achieve results timely as
you
have! Congratulations again my senior for guiding this process! I do not want to believe that you did all this simply because they are your Luo brothers :)...As the commentator said, the code issue may look like a small things but to me as a communications facilitator, I very well understand what it takes/means to be shut out of Gateway-God forbid if such a thing was to happen. Anyhow, my understanding is that in about a month we should be able to permanently divorced from the 249!
That gets me to wonder, how do we as Kenyans, recognize our heros? For me, this is a case I want to put to the NVK-M (at least the Juba Caucus) for consideration.
Stay well bro, and God be with the Republic of South Sudan
Silas
--- On Tue, 7/19/11, Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> Subject: [g47-kenya] Fw: ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan To: "NVK-Mageuzi Members List" <nvk-mageuzi@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Madaraka Party" <madaraka-kenya@yahoogroups.com>, "ProgressiveMinds" <progressiveminds@yahoogroups.com>, "NVK-Mageuzi Juba-Caucus" <NVK-M-Juba-Caucus@yahoogroups.com>, "NVK Youth" <nvk-youth@yahoogroups.com>, "G-47 Kenya" <g47-kenya@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 8:17 AM
Fyi!
Shem J. Ochuodho, MSc (Eng), PhD, LLD (Hon) Senior Advisor Ministry of Telecom & Postal Services Government of South Sudan (GoSS), Juba Commonwealth Telecom Organization (CTO/GoSS) 2010 African Internaut Award Recipient Kenya Community Abroad (KCA) 2007 Excellence Award Winner AfricaOnline 2005 Industry Pioneer Award Recipient Father of Internet in Kenya (Computer Society of Kenya - CSK 2000) Cell: +249-955-021-040/+256-477-232025/+254-725-016679 Skype: shem.ochuodho
-- Michael Asudi International Telecommunication Union Youth Forum Fellow KAAD Scholar Certified Pasha Manager Founder & Chair Model-I.T.U Youth Org Email:michael.asudi@gmail.com <Email%3Amichael.asudi@gmail.com>
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Thanks Gathuri, its truly an open world :-) On 7/20/11, gathuri njorohio <gathuri_njorohio@yahoo.com> wrote:
hi Look at the attachment and will see how ITU has assigned the codes. The information is from the internet www.wtng.info/wtng
--- On Tue, 7/19/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Does Anyone Know If "254" Had a Meaning? (Was ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan) To: gathuri_njorohio@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 9:38 PM
Dr. Ochuodho,
254 sounds cool, I guess its just a primary key to different nations, ITU being a global body is operated by resolutions agreed upon by members, just like ISO, WTO, lobbying and negotiations are a key component, considering the fact that we had East African Posts and Telecommunications when we got the code , it would be interesting to know how the decision was arrived at, as for the CCTLD, institutional mechanisms are well defined by ICANN and with increased involvement in ICANNs activities and support from bodies such as AFTLD .ss should be a reality sooner than we can imagine, well done though..
On 7/20/11, samuel ochanji <sochanji@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr Ochuodho,
Thanks for updating us on the events up North in Juba. Talking about the ccTLD, a lot of noise has been generated, as we inevitably expected, about South Sudan applying for .SS which has negative connotations to the
notorious Nazi era SS(Schutzstaffel) in Europe. I understand, from comments
made by Eng. Lugga to the press, that S. Sudan has already applied for .SS. Is there a "clause" in ISO rules or IANA that might prevent them from awarding .SS South Sudan perhaps based on "public interest" or any other excuse or are we likely to see .ss domains soon? Kindly clarify of us.
Best wishes as you help build this new and promising nation! Rgds
________________________________ From: Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> To: sochanji@yahoo.com Cc: Madaraka Party <madaraka-kenya@yahoogroups.com>; NVK-Mageuzi Juba-Caucus <NVK-M-Juba-Caucus@yahoogroups.com>; "g47-kenya@yahoogroups.com" <g47-kenya@yahoogroups.com>; ProgressiveMinds <progressiveminds@yahoogroups.com>; NVK Youth <nvk-youth@yahoogroups.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Does Anyone Know If "254" Had a Meaning? (Was ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan)
Friends,
Sincere thanks for the compliments. However, there wasn't really any magic: we simply happened to be in the right places at the right time. Thanks to history!
Nonetheless, for those of us who might not have been there at the time Kenya acquired its code: could there be any in our midst who knows "why 254"? I know it is NOT the prerogative of a country to choose a code. But in the same vein, I am aware it is not prohibited for countries to request. Word has it "292" had been earmarked for us (after Eritrea - "291")!
On receiving this information, a Ugandan friend remarked: "You mean such 'pretty' numbers existed ........ better TZ's '255'"! No wonder US/North America 'picked' "1", and Great Britain "44"! Can someone enlighten me why "254"?
Thanks too to those inquiring about the ccTLD (Internet Domain). I can only say: "Coming Soon". Numerous steps to go through, but nearly there.
Best rgrds, Shem
________________________________ From: Michael A. Asudi <michael.asudi@gmail.com> To: NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com Cc: g47-kenya@yahoogroups.com; Madaraka Party
<madaraka-kenya@yahoogroups.com>; ProgressiveMinds
<progressiveminds@yahoogroups.com>; NVK-Mageuzi Juba-Caucus <NVK-M-Juba-Caucus@yahoogroups.com>; NVK Youth <nvk-youth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2011, 20:52 Subject: Re: [NVK-Mageuzi] Re: [g47-kenya] Congratulations Dr. Shem (Was ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan)
Great work Now S. Sudan joins the global world Keep up Doc
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Silas Owiti Mudekhere <mudekhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. Ochuodho,
Congratulations are perfectly in order! Last evening, while attending to one of my "Juakalis" I got that info and was very delighted. What thrills me is the sacrifice some of you visioners have made to make some of these things work. As important as the symbolism of the code numbers assigned are, I am alive to the tribulations that the technical people and the kind of capacity building processes required to make this a reality. I am yet to see an Engineer and IT geek that is so committed, yet humble to work behind the scenes in difficult conditions to achieve results timely as
you
have! Congratulations again my senior for guiding this process! I do not want to believe that you did all this simply because they are your Luo brothers :)...As the commentator said, the code issue may look like a small things but to me as a communications facilitator, I very well understand what it takes/means to be shut out of Gateway-God forbid if such a thing was to happen. Anyhow, my understanding is that in about a month we should be able to permanently divorced from the 249!
That gets me to wonder, how do we as Kenyans, recognize our heros? For me, this is a case I want to put to the NVK-M (at least the Juba Caucus) for consideration.
Stay well bro, and God be with the Republic of South Sudan
Silas
--- On Tue, 7/19/11, Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> Subject: [g47-kenya] Fw: ITU: Country Code 211 Officially Assigned to South Sudan To: "NVK-Mageuzi Members List" <nvk-mageuzi@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Madaraka Party" <madaraka-kenya@yahoogroups.com>, "ProgressiveMinds" <progressiveminds@yahoogroups.com>, "NVK-Mageuzi Juba-Caucus" <NVK-M-Juba-Caucus@yahoogroups.com>, "NVK Youth" <nvk-youth@yahoogroups.com>, "G-47 Kenya" <g47-kenya@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 8:17 AM
Fyi!
Shem J. Ochuodho, MSc (Eng), PhD, LLD (Hon) Senior Advisor Ministry of Telecom & Postal Services Government of South Sudan (GoSS), Juba Commonwealth Telecom Organization (CTO/GoSS) 2010 African Internaut Award Recipient Kenya Community Abroad (KCA) 2007 Excellence Award Winner AfricaOnline 2005 Industry Pioneer Award Recipient Father of Internet in Kenya (Computer Society of Kenya - CSK 2000) Cell: +249-955-021-040/+256-477-232025/+254-725-016679 Skype: shem.ochuodho
-- Michael Asudi International Telecommunication Union Youth Forum Fellow KAAD Scholar Certified Pasha Manager Founder & Chair Model-I.T.U Youth Org Email:michael.asudi@gmail.com <Email%3Amichael.asudi@gmail.com>
Our approach, what I call the Third Way, is to manage that process of change to extend opportunity and prosperity for all-*Tony Blair*
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