New subject: Tandaa - An Honest Analysis

18 Nov 2008

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Alai,
I am somewhat now tempted to start a local content blog focusing on
'opinion influencers' and opinion shapers themselves - informed by the
fact that, content is king and awaited 'future online content warfare'
arrived a long time ago.
So despite excluding my skunkworks presentation from your firing
squad, I shall nonetheless shoot back at you;)
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com>
wrote:
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Mirembe
I have a very open and honest analysis of our Tandaa conference.
The facts which we must change is that Paul Kukubo, my big brother
still
sees it best to defend foreign companies and say that "eve if we want
local
content we must stilldo it with foreigners'.
Paul stated, "Let's realise that Internet is one. How can have 'our
Internet' so shielded away for 'outsiders Internet' to the extent that
'our content' is only accessible to us yet somehow  we expected to
make money from 'outsiders' through 'our Internet'? Maybe we should
not use downloaded [even-free] 'foreign' software, 'foreign'
computers, 'foreign' concepts, nothing 'foreign' except only localyy
made?" That was heavy!
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Let me tell you a thing. We
must focus on local mpaka it becomes music. When I saw the slides of
Joe
Mucheru, which apparently I have seen in every conference I have
attended
in
which he is the speaker. The websites listed there, non were Kenyan.
The
fact that Mucheru works for a Carlifornian company and he is Kenyan
should
make Mucheru sell Kenya more.
Its what all (or at least the majority of) the people in that room
were there *actually doing* Give Mucheru a break. (You stand accused
of promoting 'foreign content' by using Google mailing lists;)
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If you wanted a subscription website, you
should have started with kenyalaw.org. If you wanted affiliates,
mamamikes.com has affiliates. Lets focus on local. Lets give it lots
of
thought. We must give local examples and then mention the foreign
ones
just
as an after-thought.
I wish you had asked ICT Board to make a presentation to the audience
to articulate you point?
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We want the companies to give the local content much thought and they
can
only do that when they think locally. When you make people believe
...
...
facebook is great, we wont head anywhere. See why Tanzanians are
engaging
more in bongo5.com and jamiiforums than facebook and others. They are
actively loading pics and content and these two websites are really
coming
up well and considreing the age of the websites, we will see nice
...
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from them. We should not glorify anything western. We must start
appreciating our own facebook like Ngari has developed a good site,
www.kasarani.com
Kasarani is your website, right? The conference was not a sales pitch
for *anyone* but a conversation exploring various ways to promote
local content.
...
When I started my start forum and blogging thing, jamiiforums.com, we
had
lots of problems. But we also had people telling us that the forum
which
is
being run by my great friend Maxence, was going nowhere because
Tanzanians
don't speak a lot of English. See the site now. I don't think that
...
...
is
any forum in this region with that kind of killer traffic.
Me, me, me again... Try a bit of our, our, our, country's local
content.
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There is no forum
in this region which makes the government shakes like hell when
issues are
being analyzed there. And they are doing it most of the time in
Swahili.
We
must focus on being local if we want local content.
'Government' is a strange 3-legged animal Executive, Legislature, and
Judiciacy.
If one makes this animal 'shake like hell,' that person ought to be in
very serious trouble...
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NMG bought a script from Germans and installed it on their site
without a
forum nor blogs for the senior writers. Why? No creativity. NTV,
EasyFm
and
QFM are not online. A very good percentage of articles in Mailbox are
plagiarized from blogs and forums without acknowledgement and
...
...
entertainment and lifestyle mazagines are plagiarized from magazines
Well I have....... I tried to unsubscribe to no Avail. Robert please do
smtg about it

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Behalf Of Wainaina Mungai
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:22 AM
To: James Kagwe
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis

Hi all,

As indicated by Alex, spam & forced mailinglist subscriptions is a
critical "local content" issue now that Alai has pointed fingers.

I have been forced onto lists that do not allow for unsubscribing thus
I have marked Alai's address and his mailinglists as spam addresses.

Robert, please sort that out first so that the "traffic" and
"subscription" numbers on your lists is a true reflection of
subscription by choice rather than forced numbers.

I bet someone else has had the same experience with Kazi africa, bidii
africa and other lists.

Wainaina

On 11/18/08, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
that
things
there
articles in
like
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cosmopolitan and Elle sometimes word for word.
Why so excessive negative energy? There must be something NMG have
done
right?
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The Tandaa website was .com and not .co.ke. Even if you are not
hosting
locally, you could still have had a local domain registration.
Had you tried http://www.tandaa.co.ke/ before the conference? BTW, I
host websites abroad many times and I have no problems with it. It can
be a business decision why host locally with painfully expensive ISP?
Host 'politically incorrect' website at a pro-conformist provider
'anti-telcos' content with one of them.... etc.. It's a matrix of
decision making procees..
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The funniest thing I got from the conference, why would 6 or 7
speakers
speak for 15 minutes each and then  the forum audience is given 10
minutes
to ask questions and suggestions?
The sun waits for no King and time has never been enough.
...
Do you know that the slides from Capital,
NMG, Google, Homeboyz, Kictanet, ICT board, Strathmore, Rich, Cisco
and
others are shown to us almost in every conference we attend. They
have
become so predictable that the best place to get more stories and
even
slides which you have never seen is from the public.
Would you also be suggesting that new school textbooks be published
every
year?
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Givingg 15 minutes to
each speaker which is 105 minutes for the seven speakers then the
audience
asks and get replies in 10 minutes is really not correct and shows
and
attitude of escapism where te audience are feared that they might
embarass
the speakers with questions.
You just created conveniently suitable circumstances to arrive at your
conclusion?
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The other facts of the conference was ok. The moderator, Al Kags, was
ok
but
I think that we can do alot of improvements by having power cable
well
spread for bloggers and also the Wi-Fi to be abit superior. I had to
rely
on
my Zain unlimited since the ICT board Wi-fi kept shutting down.
Would it not have been fair to mention some of those 'ok' facts. Its
called "fair commentating"
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We also think that we can have an active network and the best place
to
start
is now here in KICTANET. I see us turning KICTANET into an open
vbulletin
run forum with CMS managed frontpage like www.haitiwebs.com and
www.mustangevolution.com. Vbulletin is so superior and it wont take
us
even
a day to have this thing up and running.
Dunno..
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Senior members, what do you think?
I just have. But allow me to add that *nix users have this thing about
multi-thread thought processes which lead me to advice users to format
their Windows and install *nix. It makes engagement multi-faceted
critique and criticize when necessesary but also appreciate and praise
excellent achievement.
Tandaa.08 was an excellent event and I wish the ICT board could
explain to us who were the brains behind it. They can count on me for
their next such conference.
Rider:
There is a clip one run NTV of an Edloret pharmacist who literary and
severally slapped himself on the face upon being visited by Pharmacies
and Poisons Board drug inspectors.
Let's not always take the shrtest route to slap every great
initiative, erroneously.
Also we avoid "local content spam", for example, forced mailing lists
subscriptions;)
G'day,
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Re: [kictanet] Tandaa - An Honest Analysis

James Kagwe

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