Re: [kictanet] KICA Amendment- Regulation of Social Media
I see the comments coming in. Thank you. Here is more to ponder on: The Amendment will require that all bloggers register with the Commission (Read Communication Authority of Kenya) perhaps on the payment of a fee. Failure to register will be a criminal offense. So *1*. *Licensing of the social media platform* * 2. Registration of bloggers. * I like the question Mwendwa posed. What is news. If I’m walking by town and I witness an accident first hand- take a photo and break that information on my Whatsapp Status or Instagram stories or on Twitter- am I blogger? Will I have committed an offense? On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 14:55, Mwendwa Kivuva <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the bill, "*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
Anything that is not news is not a blog. The bill is defining blogging with the intention of regulating opinion on news. So that you would need a license to comment on any newsworthy event. Probably, the next question should be, what is the definition of News? Other questions are, if you blog fake news, will that also be blogging? Is fake news under the definition of blogging?
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
KICTAnet has a document repository for sharing policy briefs and reports. Does that make KICTAnet a social media platform? Will KICTAnet need a license to operate it's website?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 14:05 kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Are we worried about the definition of ‘social media platform’
The amendment proposes that for a social media platform to ‘operate’ in Kenya, they must seek a license. To get the license, they will have to comply with some obligations eg having an office in Kenya.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:44, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
I think posting on Twitter is covered under the term microblogging. My follow up question then is: does this include retweeting or liking someone else's tweet? If someone from another country criticizes a leader in Kenya, then I retweet this 280 character criticism, have I carried out the action of "blogging"?
Regards, Mildred.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mildred,
Thanks for starting us off.
Would you say someone posting on Twitter (280 characters) would also fall under the broad definition of blogger? Drawing this from ‘*writing on social media platforms*’
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:21, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
First, thank you for the opportunity to discuss this. I have very many initial thoughts but let me begin with the definition of blogging. I think it is important to look at the history of blogging as this will expand the definition of the term beyond just news items. On the ground, many bloggers like myself don't even concern themselves with news. For example, I have a poetry blog that is largely inactive but is still a "LOG" of my previous creative activities.
Wikipedia has outlined what a blog is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog
If we are to follow the definition of blogging that is outlined in this bill, does it mean then that blogs which do not deal with news will be exempt? If a blog deals with the history of Kenya, is this still news or not? What about satire based on news items? Parody? Memes?
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning Listers,
As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by including a part on Regulation of Social Media.
I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill.
Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet another attempt to ‘fix’ social media.
To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’:
"*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? Contributions are welcome.
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
-- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
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-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
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It would also be interesting to know the motivation behind the laws. Perhaps it is to unleash on opponents when it is convenient. In Uganda, Museveni said the decision to tax social media was made to “stop spreading lies.” In that case, you pay economically to "gossip" On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 15:06 kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote:
I see the comments coming in. Thank you.
Here is more to ponder on:
The Amendment will require that all bloggers register with the Commission (Read Communication Authority of Kenya) perhaps on the payment of a fee. Failure to register will be a criminal offense.
So *1*. *Licensing of the social media platform* * 2. Registration of bloggers. *
I like the question Mwendwa posed. What is news. If I’m walking by town and I witness an accident first hand- take a photo and break that information on my Whatsapp Status or Instagram stories or on Twitter- am I blogger? Will I have committed an offense?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 14:55, Mwendwa Kivuva <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the bill, "*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
Anything that is not news is not a blog. The bill is defining blogging with the intention of regulating opinion on news. So that you would need a license to comment on any newsworthy event. Probably, the next question should be, what is the definition of News? Other questions are, if you blog fake news, will that also be blogging? Is fake news under the definition of blogging?
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
KICTAnet has a document repository for sharing policy briefs and reports. Does that make KICTAnet a social media platform? Will KICTAnet need a license to operate it's website?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 14:05 kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Are we worried about the definition of ‘social media platform’
The amendment proposes that for a social media platform to ‘operate’ in Kenya, they must seek a license. To get the license, they will have to comply with some obligations eg having an office in Kenya.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:44, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
I think posting on Twitter is covered under the term microblogging. My follow up question then is: does this include retweeting or liking someone else's tweet? If someone from another country criticizes a leader in Kenya, then I retweet this 280 character criticism, have I carried out the action of "blogging"?
Regards, Mildred.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mildred,
Thanks for starting us off.
Would you say someone posting on Twitter (280 characters) would also fall under the broad definition of blogger? Drawing this from ‘*writing on social media platforms*’
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:21, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
First, thank you for the opportunity to discuss this. I have very many initial thoughts but let me begin with the definition of blogging. I think it is important to look at the history of blogging as this will expand the definition of the term beyond just news items. On the ground, many bloggers like myself don't even concern themselves with news. For example, I have a poetry blog that is largely inactive but is still a "LOG" of my previous creative activities.
Wikipedia has outlined what a blog is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog
If we are to follow the definition of blogging that is outlined in this bill, does it mean then that blogs which do not deal with news will be exempt? If a blog deals with the history of Kenya, is this still news or not? What about satire based on news items? Parody? Memes?
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> Good morning Listers, > > As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National > Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by > including a part on Regulation of Social Media. > > I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill. > > Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social > media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and > Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, > have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet > another attempt to ‘fix’ social media. > > To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of > the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’: > > "*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of > news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;* > > *"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, > media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing > repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;* > > What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi > trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? > Contributions are welcome. > > > -- > *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*. > > > >
-- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
-- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
@Mercy thank you for taking lead on this very vital discussion Yes I do think its important to understand the intention of the bill and why Hon Injendi is pushing for it, to get a clear comprehension of it as misguided as it is Further the effects and ramifications of the bill include pushing the digital divide and exclusion deeper as wananchi specifically those classified as bloggers and social media platforms, will not only have to worry about issues of internet accessibility but also the affordability of its use, violating freedom of expression. On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 3:08:59 PM GMT+3, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I see the comments coming in. Thank you. Here is more to ponder on: The Amendment will require that all bloggers register with the Commission (Read Communication Authority of Kenya) perhaps on the payment of a fee. Failure to register will be a criminal offense. So 1. Licensing of the social media platform 2. Registration of bloggers. I like the question Mwendwa posed. What is news. If I’m walking by town and I witness an accident first hand- take a photo and break that information on my Whatsapp Status or Instagram stories or on Twitter- am I blogger? Will I have committed an offense? On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 14:55, Mwendwa Kivuva <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote: According to the bill, "blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet; Anything that is not news is not a blog. The bill is defining blogging with the intention of regulating opinion on news. So that you would need a license to comment on any newsworthy event. Probably, the next question should be, what is the definition of News? Other questions are, if you blog fake news, will that also be blogging? Is fake news under the definition of blogging? "social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets; KICTAnet has a document repository for sharing policy briefs and reports. Does that make KICTAnet a social media platform? Will KICTAnet need a license to operate it's website? On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 14:05 kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Are we worried about the definition of ‘social media platform’ The amendment proposes that for a social media platform to ‘operate’ in Kenya, they must seek a license. To get the license, they will have to comply with some obligations eg having an office in Kenya. On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:44, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote: I think posting on Twitter is covered under the term microblogging. My follow up question then is: does this include retweeting or liking someone else's tweet? If someone from another country criticizes a leader in Kenya, then I retweet this 280 character criticism, have I carried out the action of "blogging"? Regards,Mildred. On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote: @Mildred, Thanks for starting us off. Would you say someone posting on Twitter (280 characters) would also fall under the broad definition of blogger? Drawing this from ‘writing on social media platforms’ On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:21, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers, First, thank you for the opportunity to discuss this. I have very many initial thoughts but let me begin with the definition of blogging. I think it is important to look at the history of blogging as this will expand the definition of the term beyond just news items. On the ground, many bloggers like myself don't even concern themselves with news. For example, I have a poetry blog that is largely inactive but is still a "LOG" of my previous creative activities. Wikipedia has outlined what a blog is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog If we are to follow the definition of blogging that is outlined in this bill, does it mean then that blogs which do not deal with news will be exempt? If a blog deals with the history of Kenya, is this still news or not? What about satire based on news items? Parody? Memes? Regards,Mildred Achoch. On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Good morning Listers, As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by including a part on Regulation of Social Media. I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill. Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet another attempt to ‘fix’ social media. To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’: "blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet; "social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets; What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? Contributions are welcome. -- Mercy Mutemi, Advocate. -- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com -- Mercy Mutemi, Advocate. -- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com -- Mercy Mutemi, Advocate. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafr... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Mercy Mutemi, Advocate. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/gichangamwara%40yahoo.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Hi Listers, I did an article over a year ago offering a technical view around how the government can monitize social media... Full article is on this link.. and excerpt below https://www.predictiveanalytics.co.ke/blog/big-data/facebook-key-take-away-f... We hence need to figure a way of tapping the growing revenues that Facebook mops from our market. The first step to achieving that will be to institute a Data Residency and Sovereignty legislation that will compel Facebook and other platforms to domicile the data generated by our netizens within our borders. Secondly it will be to model a taxation model that could be based on the absolute revenues that Facebook makes. Here’s a breakdown of how much ad revenue Facebook generated per monthly active user across the globe in 2017 (excluding revenue generated from Instagram and WhatsApp): - US & Canada = $82.44 - Europe = $26.94 - Asia-Pacific = $8.86 - Rest of World = $6.15 - Worldwide = $19.84 Kenya for instance falls under the rest of the world bracket and from the latest State of the Internet Report by Bloggers Association Of Kenya BAKE it indicates that we have an average of 8 Million active users on Facebook meaning Facebook makes an average of over US$ 48 Million Dollars per month from advertising in Kenyan territory this translates to Kshs4Billion On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 8:54 PM mwara gichanga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Mercy thank you for taking lead on this very vital discussion
Yes I do think its important to understand the intention of the bill and why Hon Injendi is pushing for it, to get a clear comprehension of it as misguided as it is
Further the effects and ramifications of the bill include pushing the digital divide and exclusion deeper as wananchi specifically those classified as bloggers and social media platforms, will not only have to worry about issues of internet accessibility but also the affordability of its use, violating freedom of expression.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 3:08:59 PM GMT+3, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I see the comments coming in. Thank you.
Here is more to ponder on:
The Amendment will require that all bloggers register with the Commission (Read Communication Authority of Kenya) perhaps on the payment of a fee. Failure to register will be a criminal offense.
So *1*. *Licensing of the social media platform* * 2. Registration of bloggers. *
I like the question Mwendwa posed. What is news. If I’m walking by town and I witness an accident first hand- take a photo and break that information on my Whatsapp Status or Instagram stories or on Twitter- am I blogger? Will I have committed an offense?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 14:55, Mwendwa Kivuva <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the bill, "*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
Anything that is not news is not a blog. The bill is defining blogging with the intention of regulating opinion on news. So that you would need a license to comment on any newsworthy event. Probably, the next question should be, what is the definition of News? Other questions are, if you blog fake news, will that also be blogging? Is fake news under the definition of blogging?
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
KICTAnet has a document repository for sharing policy briefs and reports. Does that make KICTAnet a social media platform? Will KICTAnet need a license to operate it's website?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 14:05 kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Are we worried about the definition of ‘social media platform’
The amendment proposes that for a social media platform to ‘operate’ in Kenya, they must seek a license. To get the license, they will have to comply with some obligations eg having an office in Kenya.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:44, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
I think posting on Twitter is covered under the term microblogging. My follow up question then is: does this include retweeting or liking someone else's tweet? If someone from another country criticizes a leader in Kenya, then I retweet this 280 character criticism, have I carried out the action of "blogging"?
Regards, Mildred.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mildred,
Thanks for starting us off.
Would you say someone posting on Twitter (280 characters) would also fall under the broad definition of blogger? Drawing this from ‘*writing on social media platforms*’
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:21, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
First, thank you for the opportunity to discuss this. I have very many initial thoughts but let me begin with the definition of blogging. I think it is important to look at the history of blogging as this will expand the definition of the term beyond just news items. On the ground, many bloggers like myself don't even concern themselves with news. For example, I have a poetry blog that is largely inactive but is still a "LOG" of my previous creative activities.
Wikipedia has outlined what a blog is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog
If we are to follow the definition of blogging that is outlined in this bill, does it mean then that blogs which do not deal with news will be exempt? If a blog deals with the history of Kenya, is this still news or not? What about satire based on news items? Parody? Memes?
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning Listers,
As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by including a part on Regulation of Social Media.
I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill.
Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet another attempt to ‘fix’ social media.
To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’:
"*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? Contributions are welcome.
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
-- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
-- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
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Thank you @Timothy. Are there any drawbacks to your proposal? @Mwara I think the purpose of the Bill is anybody’s guess at this time. But there are clues hidden in the amendments that show some cleverness on the MPs part. Eg: *841B. A licensee may collect, use, preserve, and share information of its user where it is reasonably necessary to respond to a legal process.* This could point to the never ending thirst to make user information available. This is not without severe constitutional consequences. On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:51, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Listers,
I did an article over a year ago offering a technical view around how the government can monitize social media... Full article is on this link.. and excerpt below
https://www.predictiveanalytics.co.ke/blog/big-data/facebook-key-take-away-f...
We hence need to figure a way of tapping the growing revenues that Facebook mops from our market. The first step to achieving that will be to institute a Data Residency and Sovereignty legislation that will compel Facebook and other platforms to domicile the data generated by our netizens within our borders. Secondly it will be to model a taxation model that could be based on the absolute revenues that Facebook makes. Here’s a breakdown of how much ad revenue Facebook generated per monthly active user across the globe in 2017 (excluding revenue generated from Instagram and WhatsApp):
- US & Canada = $82.44 - Europe = $26.94 - Asia-Pacific = $8.86 - Rest of World = $6.15 - Worldwide = $19.84
Kenya for instance falls under the rest of the world bracket and from the latest State of the Internet Report by Bloggers Association Of Kenya BAKE it indicates that we have an average of 8 Million active users on Facebook meaning Facebook makes an average of over US$ 48 Million Dollars per month from advertising in Kenyan territory this translates to Kshs4Billion
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 8:54 PM mwara gichanga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Mercy thank you for taking lead on this very vital discussion
Yes I do think its important to understand the intention of the bill and why Hon Injendi is pushing for it, to get a clear comprehension of it as misguided as it is
Further the effects and ramifications of the bill include pushing the digital divide and exclusion deeper as wananchi specifically those classified as bloggers and social media platforms, will not only have to worry about issues of internet accessibility but also the affordability of its use, violating freedom of expression.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 3:08:59 PM GMT+3, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I see the comments coming in. Thank you.
Here is more to ponder on:
The Amendment will require that all bloggers register with the Commission (Read Communication Authority of Kenya) perhaps on the payment of a fee. Failure to register will be a criminal offense.
So *1*. *Licensing of the social media platform* * 2. Registration of bloggers. *
I like the question Mwendwa posed. What is news. If I’m walking by town and I witness an accident first hand- take a photo and break that information on my Whatsapp Status or Instagram stories or on Twitter- am I blogger? Will I have committed an offense?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 14:55, Mwendwa Kivuva <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the bill, "*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
Anything that is not news is not a blog. The bill is defining blogging with the intention of regulating opinion on news. So that you would need a license to comment on any newsworthy event. Probably, the next question should be, what is the definition of News? Other questions are, if you blog fake news, will that also be blogging? Is fake news under the definition of blogging?
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
KICTAnet has a document repository for sharing policy briefs and reports. Does that make KICTAnet a social media platform? Will KICTAnet need a license to operate it's website?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 14:05 kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Are we worried about the definition of ‘social media platform’
The amendment proposes that for a social media platform to ‘operate’ in Kenya, they must seek a license. To get the license, they will have to comply with some obligations eg having an office in Kenya.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:44, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
I think posting on Twitter is covered under the term microblogging. My follow up question then is: does this include retweeting or liking someone else's tweet? If someone from another country criticizes a leader in Kenya, then I retweet this 280 character criticism, have I carried out the action of "blogging"?
Regards, Mildred.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mildred,
Thanks for starting us off.
Would you say someone posting on Twitter (280 characters) would also fall under the broad definition of blogger? Drawing this from ‘*writing on social media platforms*’
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:21, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
First, thank you for the opportunity to discuss this. I have very many initial thoughts but let me begin with the definition of blogging. I think it is important to look at the history of blogging as this will expand the definition of the term beyond just news items. On the ground, many bloggers like myself don't even concern themselves with news. For example, I have a poetry blog that is largely inactive but is still a "LOG" of my previous creative activities.
Wikipedia has outlined what a blog is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog
If we are to follow the definition of blogging that is outlined in this bill, does it mean then that blogs which do not deal with news will be exempt? If a blog deals with the history of Kenya, is this still news or not? What about satire based on news items? Parody? Memes?
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning Listers,
As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by including a part on Regulation of Social Media.
I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill.
Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet another attempt to ‘fix’ social media.
To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’:
"*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? Contributions are welcome.
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
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The efforts to regulate and tax social media is one of the areas highlighted in the CIPESA State of Internet Freedom Report 2019 <https://cipesa.org/fifafrica/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Collaboration-on-International-ICT-Policy-for-East-and-Southern-Africa-SIFA-19.pdf>. It is indeed an emerging trend across different countries, and governments appear to be quickly learning from each other. One of the concerns noted in the report is the fact that governments are increasingly becoming intolerant to criticism, especially in the online context. This heightened sensitivity by government officials, is in my view, unfounded. My take is that when you take up public office, you must be ready to face the heat from all sides because we can not always agree, especially where there is wrongdoing. The response we are seeing e.g. in Tanzania to regulate bloggers is just another attempt to muzzle free speech, and such bad laws should be defied and defeated by right-thinking members of the society. The originators of such bills must be reminded that Kenya has since moved on from that dark news, and as citizens, we have no intention of heading back there. *Victor Kapiyo* Partner | *Lawmark Partners LLP* *Suite No. 8, Centro House, Westlands, Nairobi | **Web: www.lawmark.co.ke <http://www.lawmark.co.ke> * ==================================================== *“Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig Ziglar* On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 22:08, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you @Timothy.
Are there any drawbacks to your proposal?
@Mwara I think the purpose of the Bill is anybody’s guess at this time. But there are clues hidden in the amendments that show some cleverness on the MPs part. Eg:
*841B. A licensee may collect, use, preserve, and share information of its user where it is reasonably necessary to respond to a legal process.*
This could point to the never ending thirst to make user information available. This is not without severe constitutional consequences.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:51, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Listers,
I did an article over a year ago offering a technical view around how the government can monitize social media... Full article is on this link.. and excerpt below
https://www.predictiveanalytics.co.ke/blog/big-data/facebook-key-take-away-f...
We hence need to figure a way of tapping the growing revenues that Facebook mops from our market. The first step to achieving that will be to institute a Data Residency and Sovereignty legislation that will compel Facebook and other platforms to domicile the data generated by our netizens within our borders. Secondly it will be to model a taxation model that could be based on the absolute revenues that Facebook makes. Here’s a breakdown of how much ad revenue Facebook generated per monthly active user across the globe in 2017 (excluding revenue generated from Instagram and WhatsApp):
- US & Canada = $82.44 - Europe = $26.94 - Asia-Pacific = $8.86 - Rest of World = $6.15 - Worldwide = $19.84
Kenya for instance falls under the rest of the world bracket and from the latest State of the Internet Report by Bloggers Association Of Kenya BAKE it indicates that we have an average of 8 Million active users on Facebook meaning Facebook makes an average of over US$ 48 Million Dollars per month from advertising in Kenyan territory this translates to Kshs4Billion
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 8:54 PM mwara gichanga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Mercy thank you for taking lead on this very vital discussion
Yes I do think its important to understand the intention of the bill and why Hon Injendi is pushing for it, to get a clear comprehension of it as misguided as it is
Further the effects and ramifications of the bill include pushing the digital divide and exclusion deeper as wananchi specifically those classified as bloggers and social media platforms, will not only have to worry about issues of internet accessibility but also the affordability of its use, violating freedom of expression.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 3:08:59 PM GMT+3, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I see the comments coming in. Thank you.
Here is more to ponder on:
The Amendment will require that all bloggers register with the Commission (Read Communication Authority of Kenya) perhaps on the payment of a fee. Failure to register will be a criminal offense.
So *1*. *Licensing of the social media platform* * 2. Registration of bloggers. *
I like the question Mwendwa posed. What is news. If I’m walking by town and I witness an accident first hand- take a photo and break that information on my Whatsapp Status or Instagram stories or on Twitter- am I blogger? Will I have committed an offense?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 14:55, Mwendwa Kivuva <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the bill, "*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
Anything that is not news is not a blog. The bill is defining blogging with the intention of regulating opinion on news. So that you would need a license to comment on any newsworthy event. Probably, the next question should be, what is the definition of News? Other questions are, if you blog fake news, will that also be blogging? Is fake news under the definition of blogging?
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
KICTAnet has a document repository for sharing policy briefs and reports. Does that make KICTAnet a social media platform? Will KICTAnet need a license to operate it's website?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 14:05 kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Are we worried about the definition of ‘social media platform’
The amendment proposes that for a social media platform to ‘operate’ in Kenya, they must seek a license. To get the license, they will have to comply with some obligations eg having an office in Kenya.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:44, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
I think posting on Twitter is covered under the term microblogging. My follow up question then is: does this include retweeting or liking someone else's tweet? If someone from another country criticizes a leader in Kenya, then I retweet this 280 character criticism, have I carried out the action of "blogging"?
Regards, Mildred.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mildred,
Thanks for starting us off.
Would you say someone posting on Twitter (280 characters) would also fall under the broad definition of blogger? Drawing this from ‘*writing on social media platforms*’
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:21, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
First, thank you for the opportunity to discuss this. I have very many initial thoughts but let me begin with the definition of blogging. I think it is important to look at the history of blogging as this will expand the definition of the term beyond just news items. On the ground, many bloggers like myself don't even concern themselves with news. For example, I have a poetry blog that is largely inactive but is still a "LOG" of my previous creative activities.
Wikipedia has outlined what a blog is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog
If we are to follow the definition of blogging that is outlined in this bill, does it mean then that blogs which do not deal with news will be exempt? If a blog deals with the history of Kenya, is this still news or not? What about satire based on news items? Parody? Memes?
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning Listers,
As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by including a part on Regulation of Social Media.
I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill.
Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet another attempt to ‘fix’ social media.
To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’:
"*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? Contributions are welcome.
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
-- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
-- *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
-- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
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Thank you very much Mercy for moderating these timely discussions. I wonder if it would make sense to also consider, more broadly, OTTs and how they contribute to the Internet value chain in a way that would contribute to, for example, the Communications Authority’s strategy for regulatory treatment of OTTs. The CA should ideally call for public discussions/contribution to these issues soon before these ill informed bills are tabled in parliament. Best Alice
On Oct 23, 2019, at 05:07, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I see the comments coming in. Thank you.
Here is more to ponder on:
The Amendment will require that all bloggers register with the Commission (Read Communication Authority of Kenya) perhaps on the payment of a fee. Failure to register will be a criminal offense.
So 1. Licensing of the social media platform 2. Registration of bloggers.
I like the question Mwendwa posed. What is news. If I’m walking by town and I witness an accident first hand- take a photo and break that information on my Whatsapp Status or Instagram stories or on Twitter- am I blogger? Will I have committed an offense?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 14:55, Mwendwa Kivuva <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote: According to the bill, "blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;
Anything that is not news is not a blog. The bill is defining blogging with the intention of regulating opinion on news. So that you would need a license to comment on any newsworthy event. Probably, the next question should be, what is the definition of News? Other questions are, if you blog fake news, will that also be blogging? Is fake news under the definition of blogging?
"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;
KICTAnet has a document repository for sharing policy briefs and reports. Does that make KICTAnet a social media platform? Will KICTAnet need a license to operate it's website?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 14:05 kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Are we worried about the definition of ‘social media platform’
The amendment proposes that for a social media platform to ‘operate’ in Kenya, they must seek a license. To get the license, they will have to comply with some obligations eg having an office in Kenya.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:44, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote: I think posting on Twitter is covered under the term microblogging. My follow up question then is: does this include retweeting or liking someone else's tweet? If someone from another country criticizes a leader in Kenya, then I retweet this 280 character criticism, have I carried out the action of "blogging"?
Regards, Mildred.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote: @Mildred,
Thanks for starting us off.
Would you say someone posting on Twitter (280 characters) would also fall under the broad definition of blogger? Drawing this from ‘writing on social media platforms’
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:21, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers,
First, thank you for the opportunity to discuss this. I have very many initial thoughts but let me begin with the definition of blogging. I think it is important to look at the history of blogging as this will expand the definition of the term beyond just news items. On the ground, many bloggers like myself don't even concern themselves with news. For example, I have a poetry blog that is largely inactive but is still a "LOG" of my previous creative activities.
Wikipedia has outlined what a blog is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog
If we are to follow the definition of blogging that is outlined in this bill, does it mean then that blogs which do not deal with news will be exempt? If a blog deals with the history of Kenya, is this still news or not? What about satire based on news items? Parody? Memes?
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
> On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Good morning Listers, > > As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by including a part on Regulation of Social Media. > > I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill. > > Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet another attempt to ‘fix’ social media. > > To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’: > > "blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet; > > "social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets; > > What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? Contributions are welcome. > > > -- > Mercy Mutemi, Advocate. > > >
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Hi Alice, Very good proposal. I think part of the USF funds ( i propose 5 %) should be used for Capacity Building and Research for members of parliament and other key stakeholders on emerging issues such as OTTs. This will support Private Sector and Civil Society efforts. Academia can benefit from the fund to do Research. Regards On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, 10:09 pm Alice Munyua via kictanet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you very much Mercy for moderating these timely discussions.
I wonder if it would make sense to also consider, more broadly, OTTs and how they contribute to the Internet value chain in a way that would contribute to, for example, the Communications Authority’s strategy for regulatory treatment of OTTs. The CA should ideally call for public discussions/contribution to these issues soon before these ill informed bills are tabled in parliament.
Best Alice
On Oct 23, 2019, at 05:07, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I see the comments coming in. Thank you.
Here is more to ponder on:
The Amendment will require that all bloggers register with the Commission (Read Communication Authority of Kenya) perhaps on the payment of a fee. Failure to register will be a criminal offense.
So *1*. *Licensing of the social media platform* * 2. Registration of bloggers. *
I like the question Mwendwa posed. What is news. If I’m walking by town and I witness an accident first hand- take a photo and break that information on my Whatsapp Status or Instagram stories or on Twitter- am I blogger? Will I have committed an offense?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 14:55, Mwendwa Kivuva <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the bill, "*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;*
Anything that is not news is not a blog. The bill is defining blogging with the intention of regulating opinion on news. So that you would need a license to comment on any newsworthy event. Probably, the next question should be, what is the definition of News? Other questions are, if you blog fake news, will that also be blogging? Is fake news under the definition of blogging?
*"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;*
KICTAnet has a document repository for sharing policy briefs and reports. Does that make KICTAnet a social media platform? Will KICTAnet need a license to operate it's website?
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 14:05 kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Are we worried about the definition of ‘social media platform’
The amendment proposes that for a social media platform to ‘operate’ in Kenya, they must seek a license. To get the license, they will have to comply with some obligations eg having an office in Kenya.
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:44, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
I think posting on Twitter is covered under the term microblogging. My follow up question then is: does this include retweeting or liking someone else's tweet? If someone from another country criticizes a leader in Kenya, then I retweet this 280 character criticism, have I carried out the action of "blogging"?
Regards, Mildred.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mildred,
Thanks for starting us off.
Would you say someone posting on Twitter (280 characters) would also fall under the broad definition of blogger? Drawing this from ‘*writing on social media platforms*’
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:21, Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
First, thank you for the opportunity to discuss this. I have very many initial thoughts but let me begin with the definition of blogging. I think it is important to look at the history of blogging as this will expand the definition of the term beyond just news items. On the ground, many bloggers like myself don't even concern themselves with news. For example, I have a poetry blog that is largely inactive but is still a "LOG" of my previous creative activities.
Wikipedia has outlined what a blog is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog
If we are to follow the definition of blogging that is outlined in this bill, does it mean then that blogs which do not deal with news will be exempt? If a blog deals with the history of Kenya, is this still news or not? What about satire based on news items? Parody? Memes?
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, kanini mutemi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> Good morning Listers, > > As GG had alerted us last week, there is a bill before the National > Assembly that seeks to amend the Kenya Information and Communication Act by > including a part on Regulation of Social Media. > > I will lead us on a discussion on this Bill. > > Between 2016 to date, we have seen many attempts to regulate social > media conduct. Interestingly, one such attempt, the Computer Misuse and > Cybercrimes Act, where many of its sections on regulation of social media, > have been suspended is coming up for hearing today. Now we tackle yet > another attempt to ‘fix’ social media. > > To start with, I will post the definitions proposed in the bill of > the word ‘social media platform’ and ‘blogging’: > > "*blogging" means collecting, writing, editing and presenting of > news or news articles in social media platforms or in the internet;* > > *"social media platforms" includes online publishing and discussion, > media sharing, blogging, social networking, document and data sharing > repositories, social media applications, social bookmarking and widgets;* > > What are your initial thoughts? What ‘problem’ is Hon. Injendi > trying to fix with this bill? Who will fall under those definitions? > Contributions are welcome. > > > -- > *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*. > > > >
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participants (7)
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Alice Munyua -
Barrack Otieno -
kanini mutemi -
mwara gichanga -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
Timothy- Coach- Oriedo -
Victor Kapiyo