Re: [kictanet] UCC attempts to block social networks
Use of Kenyan Sim Cards may be the only option here. Bitange
Reporters Without Borders urges the Ugandan authorities to respect freedom of expression and not obstruct online social networks and news media on the eve of new opposition demonstrations. It would be dangerous for the government to make unjustified use of protection of national security as grounds for controlling information.
The role of that Facebook and Twitter are playing in providing the public with information about current developments is all the more important given the restrictions that have been placed on journalists trying to cover the demonstrations.
Reporters Without Borders urges the Ugandan authorities to respect freedom of expression and not obstruct online social networks and news media on the eve of new opposition demonstrations. It would be dangerous for the government to make unjustified use of protection of national security as grounds for controlling information.
The role of that Facebook and Twitter are playing in providing the public with information about current developments is all the more important given the restrictions that have been placed on journalists trying to cover the demonstrations.
The Uganda Communications Commission (UCC) tried to block access to social networks on 14 April, when "Walk to Work" demonstrations were held in several cities in protest against food and gasoline price hikes. In a letter (copy attached) signed by Quinto Ojok (standing in for the executive director), the UCC ordered 10 telecom companies "to block the use of Facebook and Tweeter for 24 hours as of now, that is 14th April 2011 at 3.30 pm."
The grounds given for the order was "a request from the security agencies that there is need to minimize the use of the media that may escalate violence to the public in respect of the ongoing situation due to the demonstration relating to 'Walk to Work'."
UCC executive director Godfrey Mutabazi told Reuters yesterday that he was ready to give fresh orders to block Facebook and Twitter locally if they were used "to fan unrest." The day before, thousands of people took to the streets to protest against the arrests of opposition leader Kizza Besigye and other demonstrators, who were accused of inciting violence.
Reached by telephone, Mutabazi told Reporters Without Borders he would cut off access to Facebook and Twitter only if it had to be done to protect the public. He said his statements should be seen as an appeal to Ugandans to be take care not to use social networks to issue calls for hatred or violence. "The freedom to live is more important than the freedom to express oneself," he added.
As a regulator, the UCC cannot block websites without help from Internet services providers. The 14 April letter was sent to Broadband (U), Foris Telecom Uganda and Infocom, with copies to Orange Uganda, Uganda Telecom, MTN Uganda, Warid Telecom, Airtel Uganda, Africaonline Uganda and ZAfsat Communications. Reporters Without Borders has told some of these companies that it opposes social networks being disconnected in a unilateral and abusive manner.
The blocking that the UCC ordered on 14 April was not implemented by all the companies concerned. Some requested clarification. Some said they got the letter too late. And some simply refused to comply. MTN Uganda, one of the leading ISPs, announced on Twitter on 15 April that it would not carry out the order: "@MTNUGANDACARE: @StoneAtwine Our stand is clear. We are not closing down FB or Twitter. Thanks."
Some users nonetheless experienced disruptions for several hours. Different information has been circulating about the ISPs involved.
Local NGOs have accused the security forces of using excessive violence to disperse demonstrators - charges rejected by the government.
The Eastern Africa Journalists Association (EAJA) has condemned the restrictions imposed by the government on journalists, who have been denied access to hospitals and certain places linked to the demonstrations. Around 10 journalists have been injured and have had equipment damaged while covering the protests, which began on 11 April. An armed forces spokesman apologized publicly.
Several sources have separately said that a UCC directive has also banned TV and radio stations from providing live coverage of the "Walk to Work" protests.
Reporters Without Borders is very worried about the restrictions that the Ugandan government is imposing on freedom of expression.
"The authorities must not confuse the event itself with coverage of the event," Reporters Without Borders said. "When media cover demonstrations, they are not taking part in them; they are simply doing their job of reporting the news. The media must not be prevented from working and journalists must not be obstructed."
source Reporters sans Frontières
A on 14 April, when "Walk to Work" demonstrations were held in several cities in protest against food and gasoline price hikes. In a letter (copy attached) signed by Quinto Ojok (standing in for the executive director), the UCC ordered 10 telecom companies "to block the use of Facebook and Tweeter for 24 hours as of now, that is 14th April 2011 at 3.30 pm."
The grounds given for the order was "a request from the security agencies that there is need to minimize the use of the media that may escalate violence to the public in respect of the ongoing situation due to the demonstration relating to 'Walk to Work'."
UCC executive director Godfrey Mutabazi told Reuters yesterday that he was ready to give fresh orders to block Facebook and Twitter locally if they were used "to fan unrest." The day before, thousands of people took to the streets to protest against the arrests of opposition leader Kizza Besigye and other demonstrators, who were accused of inciting violence.
Reached by telephone, Mutabazi told Reporters Without Borders he would cut off access to Facebook and Twitter only if it had to be done to protect the public. He said his statements should be seen as an appeal to Ugandans to be take care not to use social networks to issue calls for hatred or violence. "The freedom to live is more important than the freedom to express oneself," he added.
As a regulator, the UCC cannot block websites without help from Internet services providers. The 14 April letter was sent to Broadband (U), Foris Telecom Uganda and Infocom, with copies to Orange Uganda, Uganda Telecom, MTN Uganda, Warid Telecom, Airtel Uganda, Africaonline Uganda and ZAfsat Communications. Reporters Without Borders has told some of these companies that it opposes social networks being disconnected in a unilateral and abusive manner.
The blocking that the UCC ordered on 14 April was not implemented by all the companies concerned. Some requested clarification. Some said they got the letter too late. And some simply refused to comply. MTN Uganda, one of the leading ISPs, announced on Twitter on 15 April that it would not carry out the order: "@MTNUGANDACARE: @StoneAtwine Our stand is clear. We are not closing down FB or Twitter. Thanks."
Some users nonetheless experienced disruptions for several hours. Different information has been circulating about the ISPs involved.
Local NGOs have accused the security forces of using excessive violence to disperse demonstrators - charges rejected by the government.
The Eastern Africa Journalists Association (EAJA) has condemned the restrictions imposed by the government on journalists, who have been denied access to hospitals and certain places linked to the demonstrations. Around 10 journalists have been injured and have had equipment damaged while covering the protests, which began on 11 April. An armed forces spokesman apologized publicly.
Several sources have separately said that a UCC directive has also banned TV and radio stations from providing live coverage of the "Walk to Work" protests.
Reporters Without Borders is very worried about the restrictions that the Ugandan government is imposing on freedom of expression.
"The authorities must not confuse the event itself with coverage of the event," Reporters Without Borders said. "When media cover demonstrations, they are not taking part in them; they are simply doing their job of reporting the news. The media must not be prevented from working and journalists must not be obstructed."
source Reporters sans Frontières
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I think it is a very pertinent issue. What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing? On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:30 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Use of Kenyan Sim Cards may be the only option here.
Bitange
Reporters Without Borders urges the Ugandan authorities to respect freedom of expression and not obstruct online social networks and news media on the eve of new opposition demonstrations. It would be dangerous for the government to make unjustified use of protection of national security as grounds for controlling information.
The role of that Facebook and Twitter are playing in providing the public with information about current developments is all the more important given the restrictions that have been placed on journalists trying to cover the demonstrations.
Reporters Without Borders urges the Ugandan authorities to respect freedom of expression and not obstruct online social networks and news media on the eve of new opposition demonstrations. It would be dangerous for the government to make unjustified use of protection of national security as grounds for controlling information.
The role of that Facebook and Twitter are playing in providing the public with information about current developments is all the more important given the restrictions that have been placed on journalists trying to cover the demonstrations.
The Uganda Communications Commission (UCC) tried to block access to social networks on 14 April, when "Walk to Work" demonstrations were held in several cities in protest against food and gasoline price hikes. In a letter (copy attached) signed by Quinto Ojok (standing in for the executive director), the UCC ordered 10 telecom companies "to block the use of Facebook and Tweeter for 24 hours as of now, that is 14th April 2011 at 3.30 pm."
The grounds given for the order was "a request from the security agencies that there is need to minimize the use of the media that may escalate violence to the public in respect of the ongoing situation due to the demonstration relating to 'Walk to Work'."
UCC executive director Godfrey Mutabazi told Reuters yesterday that he was ready to give fresh orders to block Facebook and Twitter locally if they were used "to fan unrest." The day before, thousands of people took to the streets to protest against the arrests of opposition leader Kizza Besigye and other demonstrators, who were accused of inciting violence.
Reached by telephone, Mutabazi told Reporters Without Borders he would cut off access to Facebook and Twitter only if it had to be done to protect the public. He said his statements should be seen as an appeal to Ugandans to be take care not to use social networks to issue calls for hatred or violence. "The freedom to live is more important than the freedom to express oneself," he added.
As a regulator, the UCC cannot block websites without help from Internet services providers. The 14 April letter was sent to Broadband (U), Foris Telecom Uganda and Infocom, with copies to Orange Uganda, Uganda Telecom, MTN Uganda, Warid Telecom, Airtel Uganda, Africaonline Uganda and ZAfsat Communications. Reporters Without Borders has told some of these companies that it opposes social networks being disconnected in a unilateral and abusive manner.
The blocking that the UCC ordered on 14 April was not implemented by all the companies concerned. Some requested clarification. Some said they got the letter too late. And some simply refused to comply. MTN Uganda, one of the leading ISPs, announced on Twitter on 15 April that it would not carry out the order: "@MTNUGANDACARE: @StoneAtwine Our stand is clear. We are not closing down FB or Twitter. Thanks."
Some users nonetheless experienced disruptions for several hours. Different information has been circulating about the ISPs involved.
Local NGOs have accused the security forces of using excessive violence to disperse demonstrators - charges rejected by the government.
The Eastern Africa Journalists Association (EAJA) has condemned the restrictions imposed by the government on journalists, who have been denied access to hospitals and certain places linked to the demonstrations. Around 10 journalists have been injured and have had equipment damaged while covering the protests, which began on 11 April. An armed forces spokesman apologized publicly.
Several sources have separately said that a UCC directive has also banned TV and radio stations from providing live coverage of the "Walk to Work" protests.
Reporters Without Borders is very worried about the restrictions that the Ugandan government is imposing on freedom of expression.
"The authorities must not confuse the event itself with coverage of the event," Reporters Without Borders said. "When media cover demonstrations, they are not taking part in them; they are simply doing their job of reporting the news. The media must not be prevented from working and journalists must not be obstructed."
source Reporters sans Frontières
A on 14 April, when "Walk to Work" demonstrations were held in several cities in protest against food and gasoline price hikes. In a letter (copy attached) signed by Quinto Ojok (standing in for the executive director), the UCC ordered 10 telecom companies "to block the use of Facebook and Tweeter for 24 hours as of now, that is 14th April 2011 at 3.30 pm."
The grounds given for the order was "a request from the security agencies that there is need to minimize the use of the media that may escalate violence to the public in respect of the ongoing situation due to the demonstration relating to 'Walk to Work'."
UCC executive director Godfrey Mutabazi told Reuters yesterday that he was ready to give fresh orders to block Facebook and Twitter locally if they were used "to fan unrest." The day before, thousands of people took to the streets to protest against the arrests of opposition leader Kizza Besigye and other demonstrators, who were accused of inciting violence.
Reached by telephone, Mutabazi told Reporters Without Borders he would cut off access to Facebook and Twitter only if it had to be done to protect the public. He said his statements should be seen as an appeal to Ugandans to be take care not to use social networks to issue calls for hatred or violence. "The freedom to live is more important than the freedom to express oneself," he added.
As a regulator, the UCC cannot block websites without help from Internet services providers. The 14 April letter was sent to Broadband (U), Foris Telecom Uganda and Infocom, with copies to Orange Uganda, Uganda Telecom, MTN Uganda, Warid Telecom, Airtel Uganda, Africaonline Uganda and ZAfsat Communications. Reporters Without Borders has told some of these companies that it opposes social networks being disconnected in a unilateral and abusive manner.
The blocking that the UCC ordered on 14 April was not implemented by all the companies concerned. Some requested clarification. Some said they got the letter too late. And some simply refused to comply. MTN Uganda, one of the leading ISPs, announced on Twitter on 15 April that it would not carry out the order: "@MTNUGANDACARE: @StoneAtwine Our stand is clear. We are not closing down FB or Twitter. Thanks."
Some users nonetheless experienced disruptions for several hours. Different information has been circulating about the ISPs involved.
Local NGOs have accused the security forces of using excessive violence to disperse demonstrators - charges rejected by the government.
The Eastern Africa Journalists Association (EAJA) has condemned the restrictions imposed by the government on journalists, who have been denied access to hospitals and certain places linked to the demonstrations. Around 10 journalists have been injured and have had equipment damaged while covering the protests, which began on 11 April. An armed forces spokesman apologized publicly.
Several sources have separately said that a UCC directive has also banned TV and radio stations from providing live coverage of the "Walk to Work" protests.
Reporters Without Borders is very worried about the restrictions that the Ugandan government is imposing on freedom of expression.
"The authorities must not confuse the event itself with coverage of the event," Reporters Without Borders said. "When media cover demonstrations, they are not taking part in them; they are simply doing their job of reporting the news. The media must not be prevented from working and journalists must not be obstructed."
source Reporters sans Frontières
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they have to be a government full of very arrogant ignorant people to imagine you can block sites, or some service and other sections of the Internet. So many have tried it before, and trying to block sites tends to bring on more anger... Gitau On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue. What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:30 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Use of Kenyan Sim Cards may be the only option here.
Bitange
Reporters Without Borders urges the Ugandan authorities to respect freedom of expression and not obstruct online social networks and news media on the eve of new opposition demonstrations. It would be dangerous for the government to make unjustified use of protection of national security as grounds for controlling information.
The role of that Facebook and Twitter are playing in providing the public with information about current developments is all the more important given the restrictions that have been placed on journalists trying to cover the demonstrations.
Reporters Without Borders urges the Ugandan authorities to respect freedom of expression and not obstruct online social networks and news media on the eve of new opposition demonstrations. It would be dangerous for the government to make unjustified use of protection of national security as grounds for controlling information.
The role of that Facebook and Twitter are playing in providing the public with information about current developments is all the more important given the restrictions that have been placed on journalists trying to cover the demonstrations.
The Uganda Communications Commission (UCC) tried to block access to social networks on 14 April, when "Walk to Work" demonstrations were held in several cities in protest against food and gasoline price hikes. In a letter (copy attached) signed by Quinto Ojok (standing in for the executive director), the UCC ordered 10 telecom companies "to block the use of Facebook and Tweeter for 24 hours as of now, that is 14th April 2011 at 3.30 pm."
The grounds given for the order was "a request from the security agencies that there is need to minimize the use of the media that may escalate violence to the public in respect of the ongoing situation due to the demonstration relating to 'Walk to Work'."
UCC executive director Godfrey Mutabazi told Reuters yesterday that he was ready to give fresh orders to block Facebook and Twitter locally if they were used "to fan unrest." The day before, thousands of people took to the streets to protest against the arrests of opposition leader Kizza Besigye and other demonstrators, who were accused of inciting violence.
Reached by telephone, Mutabazi told Reporters Without Borders he would cut off access to Facebook and Twitter only if it had to be done to protect the public. He said his statements should be seen as an appeal to Ugandans to be take care not to use social networks to issue calls for hatred or violence. "The freedom to live is more important than the freedom to express oneself," he added.
As a regulator, the UCC cannot block websites without help from Internet services providers. The 14 April letter was sent to Broadband (U), Foris Telecom Uganda and Infocom, with copies to Orange Uganda, Uganda Telecom, MTN Uganda, Warid Telecom, Airtel Uganda, Africaonline Uganda and ZAfsat Communications. Reporters Without Borders has told some of these companies that it opposes social networks being disconnected in a unilateral and abusive manner.
The blocking that the UCC ordered on 14 April was not implemented by all the companies concerned. Some requested clarification. Some said they got the letter too late. And some simply refused to comply. MTN Uganda, one of the leading ISPs, announced on Twitter on 15 April that it would not carry out the order: "@MTNUGANDACARE: @StoneAtwine Our stand is clear. We are not closing down FB or Twitter. Thanks."
Some users nonetheless experienced disruptions for several hours. Different information has been circulating about the ISPs involved.
Local NGOs have accused the security forces of using excessive violence to disperse demonstrators - charges rejected by the government.
The Eastern Africa Journalists Association (EAJA) has condemned the restrictions imposed by the government on journalists, who have been denied access to hospitals and certain places linked to the demonstrations. Around 10 journalists have been injured and have had equipment damaged while covering the protests, which began on 11 April. An armed forces spokesman apologized publicly.
Several sources have separately said that a UCC directive has also banned TV and radio stations from providing live coverage of the "Walk to Work" protests.
Reporters Without Borders is very worried about the restrictions that the Ugandan government is imposing on freedom of expression.
"The authorities must not confuse the event itself with coverage of the event," Reporters Without Borders said. "When media cover demonstrations, they are not taking part in them; they are simply doing their job of reporting the news. The media must not be prevented from working and journalists must not be obstructed."
source Reporters sans Frontières
A on 14 April, when "Walk to Work" demonstrations were held in several cities in protest against food and gasoline price hikes. In a letter (copy attached) signed by Quinto Ojok (standing in for the executive director), the UCC ordered 10 telecom companies "to block the use of Facebook and Tweeter for 24 hours as of now, that is 14th April 2011 at 3.30 pm."
The grounds given for the order was "a request from the security agencies that there is need to minimize the use of the media that may escalate violence to the public in respect of the ongoing situation due to the demonstration relating to 'Walk to Work'."
UCC executive director Godfrey Mutabazi told Reuters yesterday that he was ready to give fresh orders to block Facebook and Twitter locally if they were used "to fan unrest." The day before, thousands of people took to the streets to protest against the arrests of opposition leader Kizza Besigye and other demonstrators, who were accused of inciting violence.
Reached by telephone, Mutabazi told Reporters Without Borders he would cut off access to Facebook and Twitter only if it had to be done to protect the public. He said his statements should be seen as an appeal to Ugandans to be take care not to use social networks to issue calls for hatred or violence. "The freedom to live is more important than the freedom to express oneself," he added.
As a regulator, the UCC cannot block websites without help from Internet services providers. The 14 April letter was sent to Broadband (U), Foris Telecom Uganda and Infocom, with copies to Orange Uganda, Uganda Telecom, MTN Uganda, Warid Telecom, Airtel Uganda, Africaonline Uganda and ZAfsat Communications. Reporters Without Borders has told some of these companies that it opposes social networks being disconnected in a unilateral and abusive manner.
The blocking that the UCC ordered on 14 April was not implemented by all the companies concerned. Some requested clarification. Some said they got the letter too late. And some simply refused to comply. MTN Uganda, one of the leading ISPs, announced on Twitter on 15 April that it would not carry out the order: "@MTNUGANDACARE: @StoneAtwine Our stand is clear. We are not closing down FB or Twitter. Thanks."
Some users nonetheless experienced disruptions for several hours. Different information has been circulating about the ISPs involved.
Local NGOs have accused the security forces of using excessive violence to disperse demonstrators - charges rejected by the government.
The Eastern Africa Journalists Association (EAJA) has condemned the restrictions imposed by the government on journalists, who have been denied access to hospitals and certain places linked to the demonstrations. Around 10 journalists have been injured and have had equipment damaged while covering the protests, which began on 11 April. An armed forces spokesman apologized publicly.
Several sources have separately said that a UCC directive has also banned TV and radio stations from providing live coverage of the "Walk to Work" protests.
Reporters Without Borders is very worried about the restrictions that the Ugandan government is imposing on freedom of expression.
"The authorities must not confuse the event itself with coverage of the event," Reporters Without Borders said. "When media cover demonstrations, they are not taking part in them; they are simply doing their job of reporting the news. The media must not be prevented from working and journalists must not be obstructed."
source Reporters sans Frontières
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Its very easy to bypass such restrictions, especially in countries where a chunk of people in the technology field are aware of how to. ./Chucks On 4/26/11, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
they have to be a government full of very arrogant ignorant people to imagine you can block sites, or some service and other sections of the Internet. So many have tried it before, and trying to block sites tends to bring on more anger...
Gitau
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue. What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:30 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Use of Kenyan Sim Cards may be the only option here.
Bitange
Reporters Without Borders urges the Ugandan authorities to respect freedom of expression and not obstruct online social networks and news media on the eve of new opposition demonstrations. It would be dangerous for the government to make unjustified use of protection of national security as grounds for controlling information.
The role of that Facebook and Twitter are playing in providing the public with information about current developments is all the more important given the restrictions that have been placed on journalists trying to cover the demonstrations.
Reporters Without Borders urges the Ugandan authorities to respect freedom of expression and not obstruct online social networks and news media on the eve of new opposition demonstrations. It would be dangerous for the government to make unjustified use of protection of national security as grounds for controlling information.
The role of that Facebook and Twitter are playing in providing the public with information about current developments is all the more important given the restrictions that have been placed on journalists trying to cover the demonstrations.
The Uganda Communications Commission (UCC) tried to block access to social networks on 14 April, when "Walk to Work" demonstrations were held in several cities in protest against food and gasoline price hikes. In a letter (copy attached) signed by Quinto Ojok (standing in for the executive director), the UCC ordered 10 telecom companies "to block the use of Facebook and Tweeter for 24 hours as of now, that is 14th April 2011 at 3.30 pm."
The grounds given for the order was "a request from the security agencies that there is need to minimize the use of the media that may escalate violence to the public in respect of the ongoing situation due to the demonstration relating to 'Walk to Work'."
UCC executive director Godfrey Mutabazi told Reuters yesterday that he was ready to give fresh orders to block Facebook and Twitter locally if they were used "to fan unrest." The day before, thousands of people took to the streets to protest against the arrests of opposition leader Kizza Besigye and other demonstrators, who were accused of inciting violence.
Reached by telephone, Mutabazi told Reporters Without Borders he would cut off access to Facebook and Twitter only if it had to be done to protect the public. He said his statements should be seen as an appeal to Ugandans to be take care not to use social networks to issue calls for hatred or violence. "The freedom to live is more important than the freedom to express oneself," he added.
As a regulator, the UCC cannot block websites without help from Internet services providers. The 14 April letter was sent to Broadband (U), Foris Telecom Uganda and Infocom, with copies to Orange Uganda, Uganda Telecom, MTN Uganda, Warid Telecom, Airtel Uganda, Africaonline Uganda and ZAfsat Communications. Reporters Without Borders has told some of these companies that it opposes social networks being disconnected in a unilateral and abusive manner.
The blocking that the UCC ordered on 14 April was not implemented by all the companies concerned. Some requested clarification. Some said they got the letter too late. And some simply refused to comply. MTN Uganda, one of the leading ISPs, announced on Twitter on 15 April that it would not carry out the order: "@MTNUGANDACARE: @StoneAtwine Our stand is clear. We are not closing down FB or Twitter. Thanks."
Some users nonetheless experienced disruptions for several hours. Different information has been circulating about the ISPs involved.
Local NGOs have accused the security forces of using excessive violence to disperse demonstrators - charges rejected by the government.
The Eastern Africa Journalists Association (EAJA) has condemned the restrictions imposed by the government on journalists, who have been denied access to hospitals and certain places linked to the demonstrations. Around 10 journalists have been injured and have had equipment damaged while covering the protests, which began on 11 April. An armed forces spokesman apologized publicly.
Several sources have separately said that a UCC directive has also banned TV and radio stations from providing live coverage of the "Walk to Work" protests.
Reporters Without Borders is very worried about the restrictions that the Ugandan government is imposing on freedom of expression.
"The authorities must not confuse the event itself with coverage of the event," Reporters Without Borders said. "When media cover demonstrations, they are not taking part in them; they are simply doing their job of reporting the news. The media must not be prevented from working and journalists must not be obstructed."
source Reporters sans Frontières
A on 14 April, when "Walk to Work" demonstrations were held in several cities in protest against food and gasoline price hikes. In a letter (copy attached) signed by Quinto Ojok (standing in for the executive director), the UCC ordered 10 telecom companies "to block the use of Facebook and Tweeter for 24 hours as of now, that is 14th April 2011 at 3.30 pm."
The grounds given for the order was "a request from the security agencies that there is need to minimize the use of the media that may escalate violence to the public in respect of the ongoing situation due to the demonstration relating to 'Walk to Work'."
UCC executive director Godfrey Mutabazi told Reuters yesterday that he was ready to give fresh orders to block Facebook and Twitter locally if they were used "to fan unrest." The day before, thousands of people took to the streets to protest against the arrests of opposition leader Kizza Besigye and other demonstrators, who were accused of inciting violence.
Reached by telephone, Mutabazi told Reporters Without Borders he would cut off access to Facebook and Twitter only if it had to be done to protect the public. He said his statements should be seen as an appeal to Ugandans to be take care not to use social networks to issue calls for hatred or violence. "The freedom to live is more important than the freedom to express oneself," he added.
As a regulator, the UCC cannot block websites without help from Internet services providers. The 14 April letter was sent to Broadband (U), Foris Telecom Uganda and Infocom, with copies to Orange Uganda, Uganda Telecom, MTN Uganda, Warid Telecom, Airtel Uganda, Africaonline Uganda and ZAfsat Communications. Reporters Without Borders has told some of these companies that it opposes social networks being disconnected in a unilateral and abusive manner.
The blocking that the UCC ordered on 14 April was not implemented by all the companies concerned. Some requested clarification. Some said they got the letter too late. And some simply refused to comply. MTN Uganda, one of the leading ISPs, announced on Twitter on 15 April that it would not carry out the order: "@MTNUGANDACARE: @StoneAtwine Our stand is clear. We are not closing down FB or Twitter. Thanks."
Some users nonetheless experienced disruptions for several hours. Different information has been circulating about the ISPs involved.
Local NGOs have accused the security forces of using excessive violence to disperse demonstrators - charges rejected by the government.
The Eastern Africa Journalists Association (EAJA) has condemned the restrictions imposed by the government on journalists, who have been denied access to hospitals and certain places linked to the demonstrations. Around 10 journalists have been injured and have had equipment damaged while covering the protests, which began on 11 April. An armed forces spokesman apologized publicly.
Several sources have separately said that a UCC directive has also banned TV and radio stations from providing live coverage of the "Walk to Work" protests.
Reporters Without Borders is very worried about the restrictions that the Ugandan government is imposing on freedom of expression.
"The authorities must not confuse the event itself with coverage of the event," Reporters Without Borders said. "When media cover demonstrations, they are not taking part in them; they are simply doing their job of reporting the news. The media must not be prevented from working and journalists must not be obstructed."
source Reporters sans Frontières
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's. Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements. I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world. Regards Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Yes, the walk-to-work protests in Uganda are predominantly political. I'm quite intrigued by this: the opposition didn't manage to excite anyone before the elections, which was a bit disappointing - but then, I thought, perhaps just as well: Museveni had clearly taken a long, hard look at Kenya and understood that any election would have to show a distinct victory, not an ambiguous two percentage point lead or so. And he made sure that it was clear. Cost Uganda a bomb, but hey, that's of limited interest to a president for life. Except high costs of living are of course a legitimate concern, and the walk-to-work gimmick is quite inspired: Museveni needs to do something about it to prevent mass dynamics from getting out of control, but there's no way he can do anything that won't make him look cruel and silly. I mean - how can you forbid people from walking to work, and teargas and shoot them for it?? On a related note, yes, I understand that throwing stones won't get me power, but I'm writing this in a power cut. Power has been off all day, and just went off again. I have a deadline. Sure, solar lamps are great, but I think this argument partly distracts from the fact that there is, both in Uganda and in Kenya, systemic failure behind what people protest about: there is little a government can do about the price of oil on global markets, but *plenty* of other inefficiencies in the system that drive the costs of living up: inefficiencies in the fuel transport, the fact that there is a barely crawling railway and all goods transports are via road, the lack of a competent agricultural extension service and irrigation, the fact that KPLC are allowed to charge me an arm and a leg, but don't deliver, ..... Like many people in this economy, I would be able to work to my full capacity if I weren't constantly fighting all those breakdowns - being stuck in traffic, evading power cuts etc. And that's nothing life threatening - if price increases mean you have to cut back on meals, or decide between doctor and food, then it's a whole different story, and my little niggles really fade in significance. . This has little to do with ICT, though. But if you have power and a functioning internet connection, here's an amusing contribution from Urban Legend Kampala - digital content and stuff, you know, just to get us back on track :) http://urbanlegendkampala.com/2011/04/26/kayihura-commends-jesus-for-not-wal... On 26 April 2011 20:37, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Nice Dr. Ndemo "use Kenyan SIM cards". But dont forget if Kenya goes the Ugandan way, you will be the one issuing orders for the internet to be SHUT down. Those will be orders from above. At that time, we will buy Ugandan SIM cards. On 26/04/2011, Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
Yes, the walk-to-work protests in Uganda are predominantly political. I'm quite intrigued by this: the opposition didn't manage to excite anyone before the elections, which was a bit disappointing - but then, I thought, perhaps just as well: Museveni had clearly taken a long, hard look at Kenya and understood that any election would have to show a distinct victory, not an ambiguous two percentage point lead or so. And he made sure that it was clear. Cost Uganda a bomb, but hey, that's of limited interest to a president for life.
Except high costs of living are of course a legitimate concern, and the walk-to-work gimmick is quite inspired: Museveni needs to do something about it to prevent mass dynamics from getting out of control, but there's no way he can do anything that won't make him look cruel and silly. I mean - how can you forbid people from walking to work, and teargas and shoot them for it??
On a related note, yes, I understand that throwing stones won't get me power, but I'm writing this in a power cut. Power has been off all day, and just went off again. I have a deadline. Sure, solar lamps are great, but I think this argument partly distracts from the fact that there is, both in Uganda and in Kenya, systemic failure behind what people protest about: there is little a government can do about the price of oil on global markets, but *plenty* of other inefficiencies in the system that drive the costs of living up: inefficiencies in the fuel transport, the fact that there is a barely crawling railway and all goods transports are via road, the lack of a competent agricultural extension service and irrigation, the fact that KPLC are allowed to charge me an arm and a leg, but don't deliver, ..... Like many people in this economy, I would be able to work to my full capacity if I weren't constantly fighting all those breakdowns - being stuck in traffic, evading power cuts etc. And that's nothing life threatening - if price increases mean you have to cut back on meals, or decide between doctor and food, then it's a whole different story, and my little niggles really fade in significance. .
This has little to do with ICT, though. But if you have power and a functioning internet connection, here's an amusing contribution from Urban Legend Kampala - digital content and stuff, you know, just to get us back on track :)
http://urbanlegendkampala.com/2011/04/26/kayihura-commends-jesus-for-not-wal...
On 26 April 2011 20:37, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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You sound like a pessimist. This administration has created more freedom reforms than the entire East Africa combined including the past two administrations in Kenya. And if it realy wanted to curtail such freedom, the New Costitution would not have passed. We are aware that Kenyans are using social media to propagate hate messages. This is a moral issue and I know the basis of it. Here is the summary: Over the Easter, I decided to record and listen to all the sermons from at least five TV stations. My conclusion. We are a drift (lost in the wilderness). some of the preachers should not preach to human beings. Here you find extortionists, liers and peddlers of deception. Our theology is misplaced from what it is supposed to be. They promise a heaven yet we know we are supposed to make heaven here on earth. We need a religious regulator in Kenya and demand for some reforms in this sector. We know Jesus went through Biblical Studies before he started to preach but what I saw was unqualified individuals pretending to preach. In the 16th century Europe, they were in our current state of deception, corruption, begging etc. It was the Protestant Ethic that shaped their destiny and led to the current idiologies in the West. Read the work of Martin Luther, John Calvin and the Puritans of England. This is what shaped the future of Europe. We must now embrace the values in our new constitution and hopefully reform our religions to the extent that they can lead a moral revolution. Without this, no one individual can govern this country effectively. We must blame ourselves for the weaknesses we have. Honesty, intergrity, humility etc are key to governance. We cannot propagate hate and blame the Government. This is why President Kennedy said "ask not what the Government has done for you but what you have done for the Government". Have a nice day. Ndemo.
Nice Dr. Ndemo
"use Kenyan SIM cards".
But dont forget if Kenya goes the Ugandan way, you will be the one issuing orders for the internet to be SHUT down. Those will be orders from above. At that time, we will buy Ugandan SIM cards.
On 26/04/2011, Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
Yes, the walk-to-work protests in Uganda are predominantly political. I'm quite intrigued by this: the opposition didn't manage to excite anyone before the elections, which was a bit disappointing - but then, I thought, perhaps just as well: Museveni had clearly taken a long, hard look at Kenya and understood that any election would have to show a distinct victory, not an ambiguous two percentage point lead or so. And he made sure that it was clear. Cost Uganda a bomb, but hey, that's of limited interest to a president for life.
Except high costs of living are of course a legitimate concern, and the walk-to-work gimmick is quite inspired: Museveni needs to do something about it to prevent mass dynamics from getting out of control, but there's no way he can do anything that won't make him look cruel and silly. I mean - how can you forbid people from walking to work, and teargas and shoot them for it??
On a related note, yes, I understand that throwing stones won't get me power, but I'm writing this in a power cut. Power has been off all day, and just went off again. I have a deadline. Sure, solar lamps are great, but I think this argument partly distracts from the fact that there is, both in Uganda and in Kenya, systemic failure behind what people protest about: there is little a government can do about the price of oil on global markets, but *plenty* of other inefficiencies in the system that drive the costs of living up: inefficiencies in the fuel transport, the fact that there is a barely crawling railway and all goods transports are via road, the lack of a competent agricultural extension service and irrigation, the fact that KPLC are allowed to charge me an arm and a leg, but don't deliver, ..... Like many people in this economy, I would be able to work to my full capacity if I weren't constantly fighting all those breakdowns - being stuck in traffic, evading power cuts etc. And that's nothing life threatening - if price increases mean you have to cut back on meals, or decide between doctor and food, then it's a whole different story, and my little niggles really fade in significance. .
This has little to do with ICT, though. But if you have power and a functioning internet connection, here's an amusing contribution from Urban Legend Kampala - digital content and stuff, you know, just to get us back on track :)
http://urbanlegendkampala.com/2011/04/26/kayihura-commends-jesus-for-not-wal...
On 26 April 2011 20:37, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Certainly Daktari. There is need for some regulation of the religious sector. In the mid 1990s, when I was a journalist with the Standard, the religious community withdrew adverts from the newspaper after a colleague of mine wrote a piece titled: "Crusading their way to riches". Crusades were just begining to be the trend, at the Parks and a few street corners. Extortion is now more the name of the game among many of the crusades including those aired on TV and radio. We must not, in the name of respecting religion allow the society to be conned and led astray. Some people pay fortunes to some of these religious groups who promise so much, and in the process ruin families. Oloo Janak. --- On Wed, 4/27/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] UCC attempts to block social networks To: williamjanak@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 1:55 AM You sound like a pessimist. This administration has created more freedom reforms than the entire East Africa combined including the past two administrations in Kenya. And if it realy wanted to curtail such freedom, the New Costitution would not have passed. We are aware that Kenyans are using social media to propagate hate messages. This is a moral issue and I know the basis of it. Here is the summary: Over the Easter, I decided to record and listen to all the sermons from at least five TV stations. My conclusion. We are a drift (lost in the wilderness). some of the preachers should not preach to human beings. Here you find extortionists, liers and peddlers of deception. Our theology is misplaced from what it is supposed to be. They promise a heaven yet we know we are supposed to make heaven here on earth. We need a religious regulator in Kenya and demand for some reforms in this sector. We know Jesus went through Biblical Studies before he started to preach but what I saw was unqualified individuals pretending to preach. In the 16th century Europe, they were in our current state of deception, corruption, begging etc. It was the Protestant Ethic that shaped their destiny and led to the current idiologies in the West. Read the work of Martin Luther, John Calvin and the Puritans of England. This is what shaped the future of Europe. We must now embrace the values in our new constitution and hopefully reform our religions to the extent that they can lead a moral revolution. Without this, no one individual can govern this country effectively. We must blame ourselves for the weaknesses we have. Honesty, intergrity, humility etc are key to governance. We cannot propagate hate and blame the Government. This is why President Kennedy said "ask not what the Government has done for you but what you have done for the Government". Have a nice day. Ndemo.
Nice Dr. Ndemo
"use Kenyan SIM cards".
But dont forget if Kenya goes the Ugandan way, you will be the one issuing orders for the internet to be SHUT down. Those will be orders from above. At that time, we will buy Ugandan SIM cards.
On 26/04/2011, Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
Yes, the walk-to-work protests in Uganda are predominantly political. I'm quite intrigued by this: the opposition didn't manage to excite anyone before the elections, which was a bit disappointing - but then, I thought, perhaps just as well: Museveni had clearly taken a long, hard look at Kenya and understood that any election would have to show a distinct victory, not an ambiguous two percentage point lead or so. And he made sure that it was clear. Cost Uganda a bomb, but hey, that's of limited interest to a president for life.
Except high costs of living are of course a legitimate concern, and the walk-to-work gimmick is quite inspired: Museveni needs to do something about it to prevent mass dynamics from getting out of control, but there's no way he can do anything that won't make him look cruel and silly. I mean - how can you forbid people from walking to work, and teargas and shoot them for it??
On a related note, yes, I understand that throwing stones won't get me power, but I'm writing this in a power cut. Power has been off all day, and just went off again. I have a deadline. Sure, solar lamps are great, but I think this argument partly distracts from the fact that there is, both in Uganda and in Kenya, systemic failure behind what people protest about: there is little a government can do about the price of oil on global markets, but *plenty* of other inefficiencies in the system that drive the costs of living up: inefficiencies in the fuel transport, the fact that there is a barely crawling railway and all goods transports are via road, the lack of a competent agricultural extension service and irrigation, the fact that KPLC are allowed to charge me an arm and a leg, but don't deliver, ..... Like many people in this economy, I would be able to work to my full capacity if I weren't constantly fighting all those breakdowns - being stuck in traffic, evading power cuts etc. And that's nothing life threatening - if price increases mean you have to cut back on meals, or decide between doctor and food, then it's a whole different story, and my little niggles really fade in significance. .
This has little to do with ICT, though. But if you have power and a functioning internet connection, here's an amusing contribution from Urban Legend Kampala - digital content and stuff, you know, just to get us back on track :)
http://urbanlegendkampala.com/2011/04/26/kayihura-commends-jesus-for-not-wal...
On 26 April 2011 20:37, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Got to give it to decent Americans.. They start and build more great companies (employers & employees) than anyone else in the world based on certain values.. http://www.businessinsider.com/my-final-word-on-job-hopping-dont-underestima... Lest anyone think PS Ndemo has lost it in his comments below.. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:55 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
You sound like a pessimist. This administration has created more freedom reforms than the entire East Africa combined including the past two administrations in Kenya. And if it realy wanted to curtail such freedom, the New Costitution would not have passed.
We are aware that Kenyans are using social media to propagate hate messages. This is a moral issue and I know the basis of it. Here is the summary:
Over the Easter, I decided to record and listen to all the sermons from at least five TV stations. My conclusion. We are a drift (lost in the wilderness). some of the preachers should not preach to human beings. Here you find extortionists, liers and peddlers of deception. Our theology is misplaced from what it is supposed to be. They promise a heaven yet we know we are supposed to make heaven here on earth.
We need a religious regulator in Kenya and demand for some reforms in this sector. We know Jesus went through Biblical Studies before he started to preach but what I saw was unqualified individuals pretending to preach. In the 16th century Europe, they were in our current state of deception, corruption, begging etc. It was the Protestant Ethic that shaped their destiny and led to the current idiologies in the West. Read the work of Martin Luther, John Calvin and the Puritans of England. This is what shaped the future of Europe.
We must now embrace the values in our new constitution and hopefully reform our religions to the extent that they can lead a moral revolution. Without this, no one individual can govern this country effectively. We must blame ourselves for the weaknesses we have. Honesty, intergrity, humility etc are key to governance. We cannot propagate hate and blame the Government. This is why President Kennedy said "ask not what the Government has done for you but what you have done for the Government".
Have a nice day.
Ndemo.
Daktari I agree about the preachers.... Can your Ministry or in this case CCK do something ? Or Cofek .... Kenyans need protection from these churches more than from telcos Thanks Sent from my iPhone 5 Trial Device On Apr 27, 2011, at 8:55 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
You sound like a pessimist. This administration has created more freedom reforms than the entire East Africa combined including the past two administrations in Kenya. And if it realy wanted to curtail such freedom, the New Costitution would not have passed.
We are aware that Kenyans are using social media to propagate hate messages. This is a moral issue and I know the basis of it. Here is the summary:
Over the Easter, I decided to record and listen to all the sermons from at least five TV stations. My conclusion. We are a drift (lost in the wilderness). some of the preachers should not preach to human beings. Here you find extortionists, liers and peddlers of deception. Our theology is misplaced from what it is supposed to be. They promise a heaven yet we know we are supposed to make heaven here on earth.
We need a religious regulator in Kenya and demand for some reforms in this sector. We know Jesus went through Biblical Studies before he started to preach but what I saw was unqualified individuals pretending to preach. In the 16th century Europe, they were in our current state of deception, corruption, begging etc. It was the Protestant Ethic that shaped their destiny and led to the current idiologies in the West. Read the work of Martin Luther, John Calvin and the Puritans of England. This is what shaped the future of Europe.
We must now embrace the values in our new constitution and hopefully reform our religions to the extent that they can lead a moral revolution. Without this, no one individual can govern this country effectively. We must blame ourselves for the weaknesses we have. Honesty, intergrity, humility etc are key to governance. We cannot propagate hate and blame the Government. This is why President Kennedy said "ask not what the Government has done for you but what you have done for the Government".
Have a nice day.
Ndemo.
Nice Dr. Ndemo
"use Kenyan SIM cards".
But dont forget if Kenya goes the Ugandan way, you will be the one issuing orders for the internet to be SHUT down. Those will be orders from above. At that time, we will buy Ugandan SIM cards.
On 26/04/2011, Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
Yes, the walk-to-work protests in Uganda are predominantly political. I'm quite intrigued by this: the opposition didn't manage to excite anyone before the elections, which was a bit disappointing - but then, I thought, perhaps just as well: Museveni had clearly taken a long, hard look at Kenya and understood that any election would have to show a distinct victory, not an ambiguous two percentage point lead or so. And he made sure that it was clear. Cost Uganda a bomb, but hey, that's of limited interest to a president for life.
Except high costs of living are of course a legitimate concern, and the walk-to-work gimmick is quite inspired: Museveni needs to do something about it to prevent mass dynamics from getting out of control, but there's no way he can do anything that won't make him look cruel and silly. I mean - how can you forbid people from walking to work, and teargas and shoot them for it??
On a related note, yes, I understand that throwing stones won't get me power, but I'm writing this in a power cut. Power has been off all day, and just went off again. I have a deadline. Sure, solar lamps are great, but I think this argument partly distracts from the fact that there is, both in Uganda and in Kenya, systemic failure behind what people protest about: there is little a government can do about the price of oil on global markets, but *plenty* of other inefficiencies in the system that drive the costs of living up: inefficiencies in the fuel transport, the fact that there is a barely crawling railway and all goods transports are via road, the lack of a competent agricultural extension service and irrigation, the fact that KPLC are allowed to charge me an arm and a leg, but don't deliver, ..... Like many people in this economy, I would be able to work to my full capacity if I weren't constantly fighting all those breakdowns - being stuck in traffic, evading power cuts etc. And that's nothing life threatening - if price increases mean you have to cut back on meals, or decide between doctor and food, then it's a whole different story, and my little niggles really fade in significance. .
This has little to do with ICT, though. But if you have power and a functioning internet connection, here's an amusing contribution from Urban Legend Kampala - digital content and stuff, you know, just to get us back on track :)
http://urbanlegendkampala.com/2011/04/26/kayihura-commends-jesus-for-not-wal...
On 26 April 2011 20:37, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Thanks. What we give in religious places of worship is not tax! It is CSR or because we feel "sufficiently philantropic" especially on the 10 percent tithe - where many of us often give less - hence "cheating" God. Yes, we have many criminals in religious robes every Fri, Sat and Sundays - but it is a matter of individual choice. What we need is the Min of Justice to sensitize the public - so they do not fall to the Marxist "opium" ideology. Kenyans are "religious" people on average - such a campaign will simply fall on its head. Martha Karua, as a minister, had attempted this. The need to have a "regulatory" mechanism (a CCK) of religious bodies - seeing the confessions of some sheikhs on ntv last night that some of their "colleagues" are promoting terrorism - perhaps Mutula Kilonzo should take it up from where Martha had left it. Yes, Cofek will write to him next week asking for this. Good morning Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:28:55 To: <stephen@cofek.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] UCC attempts to block social networks Daktari I agree about the preachers.... Can your Ministry or in this case CCK do something ? Or Cofek .... Kenyans need protection from these churches more than from telcos Thanks Sent from my iPhone 5 Trial Device On Apr 27, 2011, at 8:55 AM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
You sound like a pessimist. This administration has created more freedom reforms than the entire East Africa combined including the past two administrations in Kenya. And if it realy wanted to curtail such freedom, the New Costitution would not have passed.
We are aware that Kenyans are using social media to propagate hate messages. This is a moral issue and I know the basis of it. Here is the summary:
Over the Easter, I decided to record and listen to all the sermons from at least five TV stations. My conclusion. We are a drift (lost in the wilderness). some of the preachers should not preach to human beings. Here you find extortionists, liers and peddlers of deception. Our theology is misplaced from what it is supposed to be. They promise a heaven yet we know we are supposed to make heaven here on earth.
We need a religious regulator in Kenya and demand for some reforms in this sector. We know Jesus went through Biblical Studies before he started to preach but what I saw was unqualified individuals pretending to preach. In the 16th century Europe, they were in our current state of deception, corruption, begging etc. It was the Protestant Ethic that shaped their destiny and led to the current idiologies in the West. Read the work of Martin Luther, John Calvin and the Puritans of England. This is what shaped the future of Europe.
We must now embrace the values in our new constitution and hopefully reform our religions to the extent that they can lead a moral revolution. Without this, no one individual can govern this country effectively. We must blame ourselves for the weaknesses we have. Honesty, intergrity, humility etc are key to governance. We cannot propagate hate and blame the Government. This is why President Kennedy said "ask not what the Government has done for you but what you have done for the Government".
Have a nice day.
Ndemo.
Nice Dr. Ndemo
"use Kenyan SIM cards".
But dont forget if Kenya goes the Ugandan way, you will be the one issuing orders for the internet to be SHUT down. Those will be orders from above. At that time, we will buy Ugandan SIM cards.
On 26/04/2011, Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
Yes, the walk-to-work protests in Uganda are predominantly political. I'm quite intrigued by this: the opposition didn't manage to excite anyone before the elections, which was a bit disappointing - but then, I thought, perhaps just as well: Museveni had clearly taken a long, hard look at Kenya and understood that any election would have to show a distinct victory, not an ambiguous two percentage point lead or so. And he made sure that it was clear. Cost Uganda a bomb, but hey, that's of limited interest to a president for life.
Except high costs of living are of course a legitimate concern, and the walk-to-work gimmick is quite inspired: Museveni needs to do something about it to prevent mass dynamics from getting out of control, but there's no way he can do anything that won't make him look cruel and silly. I mean - how can you forbid people from walking to work, and teargas and shoot them for it??
On a related note, yes, I understand that throwing stones won't get me power, but I'm writing this in a power cut. Power has been off all day, and just went off again. I have a deadline. Sure, solar lamps are great, but I think this argument partly distracts from the fact that there is, both in Uganda and in Kenya, systemic failure behind what people protest about: there is little a government can do about the price of oil on global markets, but *plenty* of other inefficiencies in the system that drive the costs of living up: inefficiencies in the fuel transport, the fact that there is a barely crawling railway and all goods transports are via road, the lack of a competent agricultural extension service and irrigation, the fact that KPLC are allowed to charge me an arm and a leg, but don't deliver, ..... Like many people in this economy, I would be able to work to my full capacity if I weren't constantly fighting all those breakdowns - being stuck in traffic, evading power cuts etc. And that's nothing life threatening - if price increases mean you have to cut back on meals, or decide between doctor and food, then it's a whole different story, and my little niggles really fade in significance. .
This has little to do with ICT, though. But if you have power and a functioning internet connection, here's an amusing contribution from Urban Legend Kampala - digital content and stuff, you know, just to get us back on track :)
http://urbanlegendkampala.com/2011/04/26/kayihura-commends-jesus-for-not-wal...
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Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Thanks Andrea. You are so apt. Perhaps Dr. Ndemo needs to find time to have a lesson or two from your argument. There is a clear difference between the reaction of "real consumers" as Eng. Wainaina and other minority middle to higher class Kenyans will argue - after affording 3 seven-course meals daily - and millions of low income earners who survive on a poor single meal a day would respond! When we argue from the comfort of our Nairobi offices, we need to take a moment and ask for instance why our domestic workers should pay for a loaf of bread as we do when we pay them Sh5K and we we have an average income of Sh5M. Lets us not be insensitive! You cant talk of ICT innovation on an empty stomach! Yes, times are hard for governments people dont have to get to the streets - but on inefficiencies, wastages and corruption that drive costs of living - is there any (innovation) of a lamguage that govt understands better? Would Mubarak and Gbagbo have left power through "innovations"? Anyway, there must be a balance between consumer demands and governments mitigation. Govts need to invest in serious commitments and communicate. They should not spring surprises on poor masses as they live large and expect poor people not to protest - in whatever best way that catches their action! Good morning! Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+stephen=cofek.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:21:59 To: <stephen@cofek.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] UCC attempts to block social networks _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/stephen%40cofek.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
As a patriotic Kenyan, I plan to boycott the local version of the walk-to-work campaign by driving my "LED lantern"-based Toyota after enjoying breakfast cooked on an LED lantern-powered oven.... ;-) Dr. Ndemo, have you considered leading by example by boycotting the use of your tax-payer fueled Mercedes; and instead cycle to that Ministry office in solidarity with wananchi? Just get fellow technocrats on-board and am sure your boss & his colleagues in Cabinet will take the necessary action. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Eng. Mungai, I think you are trivializing our long term economic solutions for short term gains. The Walk-to-work is not a Kenyan innovation. I refuse to copy the Ugandans because they are doing what we used to do some 20 years ago. We need to come up with our innovation to propel us to another level. I proposed optimism where we support local innovations to create jobs and help reduce poverty. I would have expected a counter proposal from you. This is what is reffered to a health debate. Regards Ndemo.
As a patriotic Kenyan, I plan to boycott the local version of the walk-to-work campaign by driving my "LED lantern"-based Toyota after enjoying breakfast cooked on an LED lantern-powered oven.... ;-)
Dr. Ndemo, have you considered leading by example by boycotting the use of your tax-payer fueled Mercedes; and instead cycle to that Ministry office in solidarity with wananchi? Just get fellow technocrats on-board and am sure your boss & his colleagues in Cabinet will take the necessary action.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Daktari, You had a point on the lantern innovation and our support for such. However, my point is that we already have given those of you in government the tools to make a change without us having to boycott anything; or walk to anywhere. We appreciate when you speak like "one of us" but in the real sense, you actually have the power and privilege that many listers would instead prefer if they see it used to make a change. I am asking more from you in way of leadership. The real concern for wananchi is better governance (e.g. CCK, content on FM stations, ISP and MNO operations etc) and better leadership. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Eng. Mungai, I think you are trivializing our long term economic solutions for short term gains. The Walk-to-work is not a Kenyan innovation. I refuse to copy the Ugandans because they are doing what we used to do some 20 years ago. We need to come up with our innovation to propel us to another level. I proposed optimism where we support local innovations to create jobs and help reduce poverty. I would have expected a counter proposal from you. This is what is reffered to a health debate.
Regards
Ndemo.
As a patriotic Kenyan, I plan to boycott the local version of the walk-to-work campaign by driving my "LED lantern"-based Toyota after enjoying breakfast cooked on an LED lantern-powered oven.... ;-)
Dr. Ndemo, have you considered leading by example by boycotting the use of your tax-payer fueled Mercedes; and instead cycle to that Ministry office in solidarity with wananchi? Just get fellow technocrats on-board and am sure your boss & his colleagues in Cabinet will take the necessary action.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Eng. Mungai, Thank you for the advise. We strive to get the best balance possible. Some of these positions are extremely difficult since Kenyans think of self first. If we were to be selfless for six months, we shall realize 30% efficiencies. But we must appreciate the achievements of the current leadership. Appreciation will make us work even harder. This is true even in any household. If your spouse never appreciates any of your good deeds and only reminding you of what has not been achieved, you will have no motivation to ... Regards Ndemo.
Daktari,
You had a point on the lantern innovation and our support for such. However, my point is that we already have given those of you in government the tools to make a change without us having to boycott anything; or walk to anywhere.
We appreciate when you speak like "one of us" but in the real sense, you actually have the power and privilege that many listers would instead prefer if they see it used to make a change. I am asking more from you in way of leadership. The real concern for wananchi is better governance (e.g. CCK, content on FM stations, ISP and MNO operations etc) and better leadership.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Eng. Mungai, I think you are trivializing our long term economic solutions for short term gains. The Walk-to-work is not a Kenyan innovation. I refuse to copy the Ugandans because they are doing what we used to do some 20 years ago. We need to come up with our innovation to propel us to another level. I proposed optimism where we support local innovations to create jobs and help reduce poverty. I would have expected a counter proposal from you. This is what is reffered to a health debate.
Regards
Ndemo.
As a patriotic Kenyan, I plan to boycott the local version of the walk-to-work campaign by driving my "LED lantern"-based Toyota after enjoying breakfast cooked on an LED lantern-powered oven.... ;-)
Dr. Ndemo, have you considered leading by example by boycotting the use of your tax-payer fueled Mercedes; and instead cycle to that Ministry office in solidarity with wananchi? Just get fellow technocrats on-board and am sure your boss & his colleagues in Cabinet will take the necessary action.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Hi Engineer, From your position who exactly is this animal called government, as Kariuki Chotara once quipped "wapi huyo Karu Max anafanya watoto was university kutupamawe, a shikwe na kufungwa jela" in the same breath from your utterances I say "let us find this fellow called government and jail him/her/it after which the price of imported petroleum will come down to 3/- per litre and all Kenyans will be free". What the late Kariuki Chotara did not understand was what is called an ideology and him I forgive, government is an ideology not a place, person or principle. As we implement the new constitution at 3G speed I hope those of us in the know are aware of the impending tsunami "when you feel the earth quake look out for the tsunami" - A Japanese plaque written over 100 years ago whose message was ignored by the younger more technologically savvy generation. We are about to create 42 centres of power each of which will want to add additional levies to those currently existing ones so the 25% increase in the cost of living in the urban areas will seem like a drop in the ocean. Bananas from Tanzania will pass through 3 counties each of which will want to charge a levy so by the time the banana gets to you in Nairobi it will definitely not cost the current 5/- worse still will be those coming from Kisii. You and I are government so lets stop throwing stones at ourselves and use our education to offer solutions to problems. The government is like a knife therefore what matters is who welds it. Regards PS. The ability to shutdown social media is an essential safety device and I strongly believe needs to be put in place not having it is like sending our police to apprehend armed thugs by claiming that the police might use the guns to shoot innocent people. I vote for an internet kill switch just like the rest of the developed nations, do not deceive yourself that the internet has no kill switch. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Thanks for the timely reminder but….I am referring to the part of government that *collects tax *and spends it (in)/appropriately to address some taxpayer's concerns such as roads, etc subsidies in times of hardship etc. We are all government in an extrapolated sense...but let us focus on the *net tax collector* rather than the net taxpayer. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Engineer,
From your position who exactly is this animal called government, as Kariuki Chotara once quipped "wapi huyo Karu Max anafanya watoto was university kutupamawe, a shikwe na kufungwa jela" in the same breath from your utterances I say "let us find this fellow called government and jail him/her/it after which the price of imported petroleum will come down to 3/- per litre and all Kenyans will be free".
What the late Kariuki Chotara did not understand was what is called an ideology and him I forgive, government is an ideology not a place, person or principle.
As we implement the new constitution at 3G speed I hope those of us in the know are aware of the impending tsunami "when you feel the earth quake look out for the tsunami" - A Japanese plaque written over 100 years ago whose message was ignored by the younger more technologically savvy generation.
We are about to create 42 centres of power each of which will want to add additional levies to those currently existing ones so the 25% increase in the cost of living in the urban areas will seem like a drop in the ocean. Bananas from Tanzania will pass through 3 counties each of which will want to charge a levy so by the time the banana gets to you in Nairobi it will definitely not cost the current 5/- worse still will be those coming from Kisii.
You and I are government so lets stop throwing stones at ourselves and use our education to offer solutions to problems. The government is like a knife therefore what matters is who welds it.
Regards
PS. The ability to shutdown social media is an essential safety device and I strongly believe needs to be put in place not having it is like sending our police to apprehend armed thugs by claiming that the police might use the guns to shoot innocent people. I vote for an internet kill switch just like the rest of the developed nations, do not deceive yourself that the internet has no kill switch.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Bob, good food for thought, you brought it out at the right time, i sat with a senior Citizen over Easter and he mentioned the bit about the 42 Centres of Power and how each county is erecting Cess stations for people passing through ostensibly for road maintenance, who knows what is yet to come, i guess this is where ICTs will play a huge role in educating the masses otherwise we are cooked :-), i agree Sirkal is me and you that is all of us. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Eng. Wainaina Mungai < wainaina.mungai@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the timely reminder but….I am referring to the part of government that *collects tax *and spends it (in)/appropriately to address some taxpayer's concerns such as roads, etc subsidies in times of hardship etc.
We are all government in an extrapolated sense...but let us focus on the *net tax collector* rather than the net taxpayer.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi Engineer,
From your position who exactly is this animal called government, as Kariuki Chotara once quipped "wapi huyo Karu Max anafanya watoto was university kutupamawe, a shikwe na kufungwa jela" in the same breath from your utterances I say "let us find this fellow called government and jail him/her/it after which the price of imported petroleum will come down to 3/- per litre and all Kenyans will be free".
What the late Kariuki Chotara did not understand was what is called an ideology and him I forgive, government is an ideology not a place, person or principle.
As we implement the new constitution at 3G speed I hope those of us in the know are aware of the impending tsunami "when you feel the earth quake look out for the tsunami" - A Japanese plaque written over 100 years ago whose message was ignored by the younger more technologically savvy generation.
We are about to create 42 centres of power each of which will want to add additional levies to those currently existing ones so the 25% increase in the cost of living in the urban areas will seem like a drop in the ocean. Bananas from Tanzania will pass through 3 counties each of which will want to charge a levy so by the time the banana gets to you in Nairobi it will definitely not cost the current 5/- worse still will be those coming from Kisii.
You and I are government so lets stop throwing stones at ourselves and use our education to offer solutions to problems. The government is like a knife therefore what matters is who welds it.
Regards
PS. The ability to shutdown social media is an essential safety device and I strongly believe needs to be put in place not having it is like sending our police to apprehend armed thugs by claiming that the police might use the guns to shoot innocent people. I vote for an internet kill switch just like the rest of the developed nations, do not deceive yourself that the internet has no kill switch.
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Hi, All government employees are net tax payers like you and I so who exactly is this tax collector who is not a net tax payer? Or yes, the member of parliament who you and I elected to go and take care of our interests. So instead of bashing the bureaucrats plan on how to discipline parliament, be it central or devolved, because we remain government and the buck stops with you and I. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Eng. Wainaina Mungai <wainaina.mungai@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wed, 27 April, 2011 10:40:31 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is government? Thanks for the timely reminder but….I am referring to the part of government that collects tax and spends it (in)/appropriately to address some taxpayer's concerns such as roads, etc subsidies in times of hardship etc. We are all government in an extrapolated sense...but let us focus on the net tax collector rather than the net taxpayer. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi Engineer,
From your position who exactly is this animal called government, as Kariuki Chotara once quipped "wapi huyo Karu Max anafanya watoto was university kutupamawe, a shikwe na kufungwa jela" in the same breath from your utterances I say "let us find this fellow called government and jail him/her/it after which the price of imported petroleum will come down to 3/- per litre and all Kenyans will be free".
What the late Kariuki Chotara did not understand was what is called an ideology and him I forgive, government is an ideology not a place, person or principle.
As we implement the new constitution at 3G speed I hope those of us in the know are aware of the impending tsunami "when you feel the earth quake look out for the tsunami" - A Japanese plaque written over 100 years ago whose message was ignored by the younger more technologically savvy generation.
We are about to create 42 centres of power each of which will want to add additional levies to those currently existing ones so the 25% increase in the cost of living in the urban areas will seem like a drop in the ocean. Bananas from Tanzania will pass through 3 counties each of which will want to charge a levy so by the time the banana gets to you in Nairobi it will definitely not cost the current 5/- worse still will be those coming from Kisii.
You and I are government so lets stop throwing stones at ourselves and use our education to offer solutions to problems. The government is like a knife therefore what matters is who welds it.
Regards
PS. The ability to shutdown social media is an essential safety device and I strongly believe needs to be put in place not having it is like sending our police to apprehend armed thugs by claiming that the police might use the guns to shoot innocent people. I vote for an internet kill switch just like the rest of the developed nations, do not deceive yourself that the internet has no kill switch. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Dr. Ndemo, That is an excellent illustration that you just gave. To look inward and see what we / I can do to cope or improve my situation during difficult times. And there are other innovations( for example the ICT innovations across different sectors) that have been birthed right here that would help foster job creation and channel positive energy and thinking. If the government showed some support and influential bodies such as the one you cited (Consumer association of Kenya) then we would possibly see some changes in how we handle challenges such as high and raising inflation. But as we speak this only remains a great illustration and the masses are still left at the mercy of those who seem to offer them some reprieve, weather positive or negative so someone has to take the lead and set this ball rolling. SammyG On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Mr. Mutoro, I admire what you are doing but at the same time i tend to agree with what Dr. Ndemo says, in times like this we need strong leadership that will encourage us to be self reliant, social media is just a channel like any other radio stations woe unto you if Mzalendo catches up with you ;-), it is important for COFEK to highlight where resources are being misused or policies that don't favour consumers, at the same time i also expect it to provide direction in terms of alternatives and champion for the use of local innovations through proper engagement with relevant authorities as well as organisations in private sector, we need a balanced view at all times in order to address challenges such as these which will always be there and we have to proud of our own, i keep watching features of biodiesel, Jatropha diesel and other innovations on television on a daily basis, how comes they are just programs and how can COFEK educate consumers on this?, How can the masses be educated on the innovations produced by companies which were awarded by the ICT board in the Connected Summit?, For as long us we are importing Combs from China we will keep wining, i wonder what happened to our wooden combs and our very own Nyayo pioneer car On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Sam Gatere <sam.gatere@gmail.com> wrote:
Dr. Ndemo,
That is an excellent illustration that you just gave. To look inward and see what we / I can do to cope or improve my situation during difficult times. And there are other innovations( for example the ICT innovations across different sectors) that have been birthed right here that would help foster job creation and channel positive energy and thinking. If the government showed some support and influential bodies such as the one you cited (Consumer association of Kenya) then we would possibly see some changes in how we handle challenges such as high and raising inflation. But as we speak this only remains a great illustration and the masses are still left at the mercy of those who seem to offer them some reprieve, weather positive or negative so someone has to take the lead and set this ball rolling.
SammyG
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Washington, The Ugandans are simply using inflation as a proxy to fight President Museveni. We went through this in the 90's.
Our consumer activists are acting selectively on the issue of inflation. I wish we spend more time on acting positively in such difficult times. Let me explain: A young man by the name Evans Wandago invents a Solar Powered LED Lantern and wins the Gorbachev Innovation Award along with Ted Turner and Sir Berns Lee. This Lantern is a sabsititute to some of our Energy requirements.
I had hoped the consumer association will educate Kenyans to boycot fuel and support the Kenyan Innovation. This will have meant that the entire Africa will follow. Making a billion lanterns will mean an industry that will create as much as 100,000 jobs. We should have lobied Kenyans to invest in this new venture instead of buying plots and in the process. We failed on this and blamed the Government on a global crisis. Soon the Chinese would mass produce the Lantern and give us concetional credit to purchase our invention. Let us think positive and make our land a better place to live in. There is no Government that is not gribbed in this inflation mess. We have a chance to lead the world.
Regards
Ndemo.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:05, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is a very pertinent issue.
What is to stop the Kenyan government doing the same thing?
Actually, Kenya is very likely headed towards the protests if the govt doesn't do something on inflation. So let's wait and see how it will deal with the situation when the time comes.
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Agosta Liko -
Andrea Bohnstedt -
Barrack Otieno -
bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
Eng. Wainaina Mungai -
Gichuki John Chuksjonia -
John Gitau -
lordmwesh -
Odhiambo Washington -
Rad! -
robert yawe -
S.Murigi Muraya -
Sam Gatere -
Stephen Mutoro -
william janak