Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans
Is there a secure way to email them? http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/article/2000123584/tender-to-ai...
Does it have to be super secure? I mean, it's a speech - it'll be read publicly anyway. On 4 June 2014 15:27, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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@Andrea, you make a good point. Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 15:31:37 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans From: andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Does it have to be super secure? I mean, it's a speech - it'll be read publicly anyway. On 4 June 2014 15:27, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Is there a secure way to email them? http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/article/2000123584/tender-to-ai... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40rat... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Andrea Bohnstedt Analyst/Publisherwww.ratio-magazine.com www.africa-assets.com
There are plenty of techniques and tools to cryptographically sign and send documents. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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Worse still if the US can listen to our Presidents conversation (good to know we are the league of German Prime Minister :-), what is it we are trying to hide in a presidential speech that would be public knowledge before the end of the day :-) This question came up in a previous ConnectedKenya summit in Mombasa but was never convincingly answered. But I think the answer is simple. There has been a budget to airlift the presidents speech since independence. What has been changing is not the technology, but who gets (eats?) that budget :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/4/14, Rad! via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 3:36 PM There are plenty of techniques and tools to cryptographically sign and send documents. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Is there a secure way to email them? http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/article/2000123584/tender-to-ai... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.c... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
But surely we are past the mentality of "that's how it has always been done". Given that the bid bond is 500,000, and a bid bond is usually a fraction of the budget, how much money are we spending airlifting speeches where a simple PDF attachment to email will suffice? Especially given we are complaining about runaway government spending? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Worse still if the US can listen to our Presidents conversation (good to know we are the league of German Prime Minister :-), what is it we are trying to hide in a presidential speech that would be public knowledge before the end of the day :-)
This question came up in a previous ConnectedKenya summit in Mombasa but was never convincingly answered. But I think the answer is simple. There has been a budget to airlift the presidents speech since independence. What has been changing is not the technology, but who gets (eats?) that budget :-)
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/4/14, Rad! via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 3:36 PM
There are plenty of techniques and tools to cryptographically sign and send documents.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Is there a secure way to email them?
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@Rad! Wake up. Ofcourse you and I (hassler?) are "past the mentality of thats how it has always been". But believe you me, you would see it differently when you will one day sit on the "greener" side of life :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/4/14, Rad! via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 3:57 PM But surely we are past the mentality of "that's how it has always been done". Given that the bid bond is 500,000, and a bid bond is usually a fraction of the budget, how much money are we spending airlifting speeches where a simple PDF attachment to email will suffice? Especially given we are complaining about runaway government spending? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Worse still if the US can listen to our Presidents conversation (good to know we are the league of German Prime Minister :-), what is it we are trying to hide in a presidential speech that would be public knowledge before the end of the day :-) This question came up in a previous ConnectedKenya summit in Mombasa but was never convincingly answered. But I think the answer is simple. There has been a budget to airlift the presidents speech since independence. What has been changing is not the technology, but who gets (eats?) that budget :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/4/14, Rad! via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 3:36 PM There are plenty of techniques and tools to cryptographically sign and send documents. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Is there a secure way to email them? http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/article/2000123584/tender-to-ai... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.c... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
I imagine this is administrative "debris" from previous administrations where enemies of the state could include in a presidential speech, and consequently turn into "law", whatever they wanted. Such was the power of a President's speech. @Muchiri On Wednesday, June 4, 2014, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Rad!
Wake up. Ofcourse you and I (hassler?) are "past the mentality of thats how it has always been". But believe you me, you would see it differently when you will one day sit on the "greener" side of life :-)
walu.
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans To: jwalu@yahoo.com <javascript:;> Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 3:57 PM
But surely we are past the mentality of "that's how it has always been done". Given that the bid bond is 500,000, and a bid bond is usually a fraction of the budget, how much money are we spending airlifting speeches where a simple PDF attachment to email will suffice? Especially given we are complaining about runaway government spending?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Worse still if the US can listen to our Presidents conversation (good to know we are the league of German Prime Minister :-), what is it we are trying to hide in a presidential speech that would be public knowledge before the end of the day :-)
This question came up in a previous ConnectedKenya summit in Mombasa but was never convincingly answered. But I think the answer is simple. There has been a budget to airlift the presidents speech since independence. What has been changing is not the technology, but who gets (eats?) that budget :-)
walu.
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On Wed, 6/4/14, Rad! via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans
To: jwalu@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 3:36 PM
There are plenty of
techniques and tools to cryptographically sign and send
documents.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at
3:27 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
wrote:
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them?
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But believe you me, you would see it differently when you will one day sit on the "greener" side of life :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/4/14, Rad! via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 3:57 PM But surely we are past the mentality of "that's how it has always been done". Given that the bid bond is 500,000, and a bid bond is usually a fraction of the budget, how much money are we spending airlifting speeches where a simple PDF attachment to email will suffice? Especially given we are complaining about runaway government spending? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: Worse still if the US can listen to our Presidents conversation (good to know we are the league of German Prime Minister :-), what is it we are trying to hide in a presidential speech that would be public knowledge before the end of the day :-) This question came up in a previous ConnectedKenya summit in Mombasa but was never convincingly answered. But I think the answer is simple. There has been a budget to airlift the presidents speech since independence. What has been changing is not the technology, but who gets (eats?) that budget :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/4/14, Rad! via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tender to airlift presidential speeches puzzles kenyans To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 3:36 PM There are plenty of techniques and tools to cryptographically sign and send documents. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Is there a secure way to email them? http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/article/2000123584/tender-to-ai... _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.c... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Andrea Bohnstedt
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Grace Githaiga
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J. R. Kirongothi
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Muchiri Nyaggah
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Rad!
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Walubengo J