Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV
Macharia, I assumed you have been following the debate. Ordinariry we have been broadcasting in Standard Definition or SD. This format is oll technology that makes people look fat on the screen. High Definition or HD tends to give you an image closer to what you look in real life. Better we now have 3D that is is even better but you will have to use special glass to see the effect. Research is getting closer to get rid of the special glasses. Soon we shall get even better technologies in broadcasting. In transmission we have several technologies including Satelitte or Direct to Home (DTH) and Digital Terrestrial TV (DTT) which removes the aspect of multiple infrastructure for Analogue TV the one we are used to. To convert the digital signal to analogue TV you need a converter called a Set Top Box (STB). This is a temporary measure until new digital TVs are in the market. The question was whether the set top can transmit both the SD and HD using the current STBs in the market. I then responded that in DTH, the Personal Video Recorder (PVR) does that easily. PVR is a generic term for a device that is similar to a VCR but records television data in digital format as opposed to the VCRs analog format. VCRs utilize analog tapes to record and play programs broadcast over television, but PVRs encode video data in MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 formats and store the data in a hard drive. PVRs have all of the same functionality of VCRs (recording, playback, fast forwarding, rewinding, and pausing) plus the ability to instantly jump to any part of the program without having to rewind or fast forward the data stream. I hope this helps. Ndemo.
Hi, Confirmed, there are currently no free to air digital channels. My subscription expired yesterday and there was no single channel available. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012, 13:10 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV Macharia, I assumed you have been following the debate. Ordinariry we have been broadcasting in Standard Definition or SD. This format is oll technology that makes people look fat on the screen. High Definition or HD tends to give you an image closer to what you look in real life. Better we now have 3D that is is even better but you will have to use special glass to see the effect. Research is getting closer to get rid of the special glasses. Soon we shall get even better technologies in broadcasting. In transmission we have several technologies including Satelitte or Direct to Home (DTH) and Digital Terrestrial TV (DTT) which removes the aspect of multiple infrastructure for Analogue TV the one we are used to. To convert the digital signal to analogue TV you need a converter called a Set Top Box (STB). This is a temporary measure until new digital TVs are in the market. The question was whether the set top can transmit both the SD and HD using the current STBs in the market. I then responded that in DTH, the Personal Video Recorder (PVR) does that easily. PVR is a generic term for a device that is similar to a VCR but records television data in digital format as opposed to the VCRs analog format. VCRs utilize analog tapes to record and play programs broadcast over television, but PVRs encode video data in MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 formats and store the data in a hard drive. PVRs have all of the same functionality of VCRs (recording, playback, fast forwarding, rewinding, and pausing) plus the ability to instantly jump to any part of the program without having to rewind or fast forward the data stream. I hope this helps. Ndemo.
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Hi Robert, There are several FTA channels. They are those prefixed with SIGNET-* I have a Garmin device which has built-in DVB-T1 which is receiving these channels. When this issue came up, I went to DSTv offices and asked them what would happen with my STB suppose I did not renew my subscription and they said that I would still be able to view those FTA channels prefixed with SIGNET. I therefore think your experience is solely a misnomer on the part of the vendor who provided you with the STB and I think you should sue! ;-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:47 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
cck is still the regulator in yawe's case and just to test if that process works, i say lodge a complaint (assuming the service provider is actually non compliant) and lets see where this rabbit hole ends. For the last two weeks now I have been asking where these policy documents are. are they part of open data and i missed something? It will be way harder to sort things out once 20 million set top boxes are in the market. in a discussion yesterday a friend asked whether you can do a remote firmware update on an STB. a seemingly silly question but very valid considering the rapid change of technology. we do need to have a look at those requirements/policy documents if only to satisfy my curiosity. gitau On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
-- **Gitau
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:23 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I am sure Bobby will pick this with DMS (Digital Migration Secretariat), if not Dr. Ndemo :-)
For the last two weeks now I have been asking where these policy documents are. are they part of open data and i missed something?
I remember the PS mentioned that he will have someone from the Digital Migration Secretariat to respond to your issues. He might have forgotten.
Remote firmware update? Well, I was able to update the firmware of the GoTV STB using their OTA services. Please define the context of this "remote" that your pal asked about, because it could mean many things.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
Hi John, As you have mentioned where are the documents that relate to the migration process as without that I have no basis on which to sue the provider. Fortunately we only have roughly 2.5 million TV sets in the country which could explains why the forerunners are being given a large window of opportunity before either STB competitors finally decide to jump into the fray or the price of digital TVs and TVs with built in decoders drop substantially. The DVB can be upgraded remotely, I have seen it happening as I watch the broadcast, I am also made to believe that you can get one with a USB dongle slot for your 3G modem to enable internet browsing with the modem used for transmission only. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 10:23 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV cck is still the regulator in yawe's case and just to test if that process works, i say lodge a complaint (assuming the service provider is actually non compliant) and lets see where this rabbit hole ends. For the last two weeks now I have been asking where these policy documents are. are they part of open data and i missed something? It will be way harder to sort things out once 20 million set top boxes are in the market. in a discussion yesterday a friend asked whether you can do a remote firmware update on an STB. a seemingly silly question but very valid considering the rapid change of technology. we do need to have a look at those requirements/policy documents if only to satisfy my curiosity. gitau On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Robert,
even better technologies in broadcasting. transmit lets say NTV in HD that transmission list policy
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Hi, I believe one of the strong points of the country migrating to digital TV broadcast was that it is not susceptible to interference by rain, so I wonder why the signal from StarTimes went dead during todays downpour? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Fri, 20/7/12, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, 20 July, 2012, 10:31 Hi John, As you have mentioned where are the documents that relate to the migration process as without that I have no basis on which to sue the provider. Fortunately we only have roughly 2.5 million TV sets in the country which could explains why the forerunners are being given a large window of opportunity before either STB competitors finally decide to jump into the fray or the price of digital TVs and TVs with built in decoders drop substantially. The DVB can be upgraded remotely, I have seen it happening as I watch the broadcast, I am also made to believe that you can get one with a USB dongle slot for your 3G modem to enable internet browsing with the modem used for transmission only. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 From: John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 10:23 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV cck is still the regulator in yawe's case and just to test if that process works, i say lodge a complaint (assuming the service provider is actually non compliant) and lets see where this rabbit hole ends. For the last two weeks now I have been asking where these policy documents are. are they part of open data and i missed something? It will be way harder to sort things out once 20 million set top boxes are in the market. in a discussion yesterday a friend asked whether you can do a remote firmware update on an STB. a seemingly silly question but very valid considering the rapid change of technology. we do need to have a look at those requirements/policy documents if only to satisfy my curiosity. gitau On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Robert, There are several FTA channels. They are those prefixed with SIGNET-* I have a Garmin device which has built-in DVB-T1 which is receiving these channels. When this issue came up, I went to DSTv offices and asked them what would happen with my STB suppose I did not renew my subscription and they said that I would still be able to view those FTA channels prefixed with SIGNET. I therefore think your experience is solely a misnomer on the part of the vendor who provided you with the STB and I think you should sue! ;-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:47 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi, Confirmed, there are currently no free to air digital channels. My subscription expired yesterday and there was no single channel available. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012, 13:10 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV Macharia, I assumed you have been following the debate. Ordinariry we have been broadcasting in Standard Definition or SD. This format is oll technology that makes people look fat on the screen. High Definition or HD tends to give you an image closer to what you look in real life. Better we now have 3D that is is even better but you will have to use special glass to see the effect. Research is getting closer to get rid of the special glasses. Soon we shall get even better technologies in broadcasting. In transmission we have several technologies including Satelitte or Direct to Home (DTH) and Digital Terrestrial TV (DTT) which removes the aspect of multiple infrastructure for Analogue TV the one we are used to. To convert the digital signal to analogue TV you need a converter called a Set Top Box (STB). This is a temporary measure until new digital TVs are in the market. The question was whether the set top can transmit both the SD and HD using the current STBs in the market. I then responded that in DTH, the Personal Video Recorder (PVR) does that easily. PVR is a generic term for a device that is similar to a VCR but records television data in digital format as opposed to the VCRs analog format. VCRs utilize analog tapes to record and play programs broadcast over television, but PVRs encode video data in MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 formats and store the data in a hard drive. PVRs have all of the same functionality of VCRs (recording, playback, fast forwarding, rewinding, and pausing) plus the ability to instantly jump to any part of the program without having to rewind or fast forward the data stream. I hope this helps. Ndemo.
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Hi Othiambo, The issue is not my provider its what is the official GOK/CCK position on the current free to air channels once the analogue transmission is effected? I asked a number of what I believed to be pertinent issues as relates to the migration but as usual the discussion was hijacked and went off on a tangent. Until the issues are clear it will be very difficult to convince local or foreign investors to participate in this migration process. There is too much cloud which I believe is being done intentionally for what reason I will remain silent. Regards Has facebook and twitter reduced our ability to keep a topic alive to 5 messages? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012, 10:14 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe migrates to Digital TV Hi Robert, There are several FTA channels. They are those prefixed with SIGNET-* I have a Garmin device which has built-in DVB-T1 which is receiving these channels. When this issue came up, I went to DSTv offices and asked them what would happen with my STB suppose I did not renew my subscription and they said that I would still be able to view those FTA channels prefixed with SIGNET. I therefore think your experience is solely a misnomer on the part of the vendor who provided you with the STB and I think you should sue! ;-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:47 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi,
even better technologies in broadcasting.
and transmit lets say NTV in HD that transmission list policy
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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