4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right at KENIC
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?" There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both. Brian -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: +254715964281 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com "Give us clear vision that we may know where to stand and what to stand for, because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything."
@Mblayo, this is truly a concern. Not sure why the founding CEO (Mich) left, but I think he was (still is?) exceptional. The second one Vincent N. was equally good but I always thought he left for "geener" pasturers? As for Joe Kiragu (the third guy), I think he was as technical as they come. Didnt get much time to interact with the latest (CEO/Casualty?) Wambua but the few times I did, I found him quite professional...I dont buy the idea that one needs to be Techie in order to run a technical company and so am quite suprised the Wambua is now in the out-tray. So maybe this should be one of the issues that members (stakeholders) should be asking the Chair (whom I have been thinking is Sammuy B, but Becky's report says it is our one and only Alice M.) When is the next AGM, I would not like to miss out this time around . walu. --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right at KENIC To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 6:13 PM Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?" There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both. Brian -- Brian Munyao Longwee-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: +254715964281 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com "Give us clear vision that we may know where to stand and what to stand for, because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N
Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?"
There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both.
Brian
Quoting Rebecca "Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community" I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe *request *is a better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover". "Then there is the problem of board interference. The micro management at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being accused of malice" I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the facts. Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes): http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf *"Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC* *and* *sought clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of its website.* *The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the website redesign required further enquiry."* *So, Mr. Buruchara flanked the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what? *I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members. Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Speaking of reconstituting the board, Members also raised the issue of Who is "DRAKE", and who's issues does it represent in he board? Members were agitated to know how representative DRAKE is but the chairman "hushed" the issue ... Can that also be clarified before the next AGM? *
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
All, What is the metric by which we measure the success of KENIC? For Becky it seem that the number of registrations is critical. For me, not so much. I would rather measure the success of KENIC by the amount of support it gives to Internet development and Internet Governance development in Kenya and the region. By this metric, KENIC has been very successful every year. If the next KENIC CEO doesn't have to be a Kenyan citizen I would gladly take on the role, with the caveat that success metrics be spelled out in advance, and that they not be in conflict with each other. If success is judged by number of registrations, it would be trivial to drop the price dramatically (as KENIC have done this month) and theoretically registrations should go up. However, this would mean a concomitant drop in revenue, which would mean that the NIC can't do many of the things it has done in the past to further Internet development in Kenya. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel On 3/19/12, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Speaking of reconstituting the board, Members also raised the issue of Who is "DRAKE", and who's issues does it represent in he board?
Domain Registrars Association of Kenya (DRAKE), it clearly represents registrars interests, as it should. Members were
agitated to know how representative DRAKE is but the chairman "hushed" the issue ...
Can that also be clarified before the next AGM?
*
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
If the next KENIC CEO doesn't have to be a Kenyan citizen I would gladly take on the role, with the caveat that success metrics be spelled out in advance, and that they not be in conflict with each other.
+1 McTim, given your participation on the Local and Regional Internet development, I have no doubt you will make a great CEO. I hope the board is listening. Regards Mwendwa Kivuva -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
+1 on McTim Difference of opinion on registrations though. That should be one of the major metrics. If ordinary people can't afford domains, and they can't now, then we'll forever be playing catchup in this space. I've seen the annual numbers for KENIC, and they're profitable. No issues there, that's a good thing, but it also shows that they can be more creative with the pricing and still do well. Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com Crowdsourcing Crisis Information [sent via mobile phone] On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
What is the metric by which we measure the success of KENIC? For Becky it seem that the number of registrations is critical. For me, not so much. I would rather measure the success of KENIC by the amount of support it gives to Internet development and Internet Governance development in Kenya and the region. By this metric, KENIC has been very successful every year.
If the next KENIC CEO doesn't have to be a Kenyan citizen I would gladly take on the role, with the caveat that success metrics be spelled out in advance, and that they not be in conflict with each other.
If success is judged by number of registrations, it would be trivial to drop the price dramatically (as KENIC have done this month) and theoretically registrations should go up. However, this would mean a concomitant drop in revenue, which would mean that the NIC can't do many of the things it has done in the past to further Internet development in Kenya.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
On 3/19/12, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Speaking of reconstituting the board, Members also raised the issue of Who is "DRAKE", and who's issues does it represent in he board?
Domain Registrars Association of Kenya (DRAKE), it clearly represents registrars interests, as it should.
Members were
agitated to know how representative DRAKE is but the chairman "hushed" the issue ...
Can that also be clarified before the next AGM?
*
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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On 3/19/12, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote:
+1 on McTim
Thanks Hash (and Mwendwa)
Difference of opinion on registrations though. That should be one of the major metrics. If ordinary people can't afford domains, and they can't now, then we'll forever be playing catchup in this space.
Due to blogspot/FB/other free website opportunities, "we" may be playing catchup forever. I'm not saying domains are dead, but it's hard to compete with freemium. What if domains were indeed no (fixed) cost from KENIC? Would registrars cough up 50% of their domain revenue to sustain KENIC? 30%? What might be a sustainable level using an alternative model? Let's see if the current promotion (1000 bob from KeNIC to registrars, max 1500 bob from registrars to registrants) works: http://www.kenic.or.ke/index.php/registrars/commitment By providing your Registrar details you agree to lower the cost of registering or renewing domain names ie. .co.ke, .or.ke and .ne.ke, to all registrants to a maximum price of Ksh1,500(VAT Exclusive) for the duration of the promotion starting from 19th March to 19th April 2012. Kindly send the registrar details below from your official email address to marketing@kenic.or.keThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it . Registrar Name: Registrar Official Email Address: Contact Person: -------------------------------------------------- "In order to make the digital marketing campaign a massive success, KeNIC proposes to lower the cost of registering or renewing domain names ie. .co.ke,.or.ke and .ne.ke, for all registrars to Kshs 1,000( VAT Exclusive) for the duration of the promotion. However, in so doing, KeNIC wants end-users to benefit from this price discount when purchasing or renewing domain names from KeNIC registrars by also offering the domains at a maximum price of Kshs 1,500( VAT Exclusive). We anticipate that more domain names will be registered during the campaign whilst at the same time ensuring that sales margins for registrars are unaffected. This time-bound offer will run only for the duration of the promotion and registrars who are ready to support this initiative need to communicate explicitly to by sending their details as requested above so that they may be featured on an exclusive list of registrars offering the discounted rate on our web site, and other communication channels. The duration of the promotion runs from 19th March to 19th April 2012. " -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel I've seen the annual
numbers for KENIC, and they're profitable. No issues there, that's a good thing, but it also shows that they can be more creative with the pricing and still do well.
Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com Crowdsourcing Crisis Information
[sent via mobile phone]
On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
What is the metric by which we measure the success of KENIC? For Becky it seem that the number of registrations is critical. For me, not so much. I would rather measure the success of KENIC by the amount of support it gives to Internet development and Internet Governance development in Kenya and the region. By this metric, KENIC has been very successful every year.
If the next KENIC CEO doesn't have to be a Kenyan citizen I would gladly take on the role, with the caveat that success metrics be spelled out in advance, and that they not be in conflict with each other.
If success is judged by number of registrations, it would be trivial to drop the price dramatically (as KENIC have done this month) and theoretically registrations should go up. However, this would mean a concomitant drop in revenue, which would mean that the NIC can't do many of the things it has done in the past to further Internet development in Kenya.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
On 3/19/12, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Speaking of reconstituting the board, Members also raised the issue of Who is "DRAKE", and who's issues does it represent in he board?
Domain Registrars Association of Kenya (DRAKE), it clearly represents registrars interests, as it should.
Members were
agitated to know how representative DRAKE is but the chairman "hushed" the issue ...
Can that also be clarified before the next AGM?
*
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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My only concern with the KENIC proposal is that when those domains come up for renewal, there may be a huge jump in abandoned domains. The gains may be very short term. However, since the barrier to entry has been dropped, some of us may be more willing experiment. Kind regards, Muchiri Nyaggah | PRINCIPAL PARTNER @muchiri Cell: +254 722 506400 eGovernance, Healthcare, ICT and Financial Services Innovation for Africa SEMACRAFT CONSULTING PARTNERS Nairobi, Kenya. www.semacraft.com | www.semacraft.com/blog twitter: @semacraft On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:23 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/19/12, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote:
+1 on McTim
Thanks Hash (and Mwendwa)
Difference of opinion on registrations though. That should be one of the major metrics. If ordinary people can't afford domains, and they can't
now,
then we'll forever be playing catchup in this space.
Due to blogspot/FB/other free website opportunities, "we" may be playing catchup forever.
I'm not saying domains are dead, but it's hard to compete with freemium. What if domains were indeed no (fixed) cost from KENIC? Would registrars cough up 50% of their domain revenue to sustain KENIC? 30%? What might be a sustainable level using an alternative model?
Let's see if the current promotion (1000 bob from KeNIC to registrars, max 1500 bob from registrars to registrants) works:
http://www.kenic.or.ke/index.php/registrars/commitment
By providing your Registrar details you agree to lower the cost of registering or renewing domain names ie. .co.ke, .or.ke and .ne.ke, to all registrants to a maximum price of Ksh1,500(VAT Exclusive) for the duration of the promotion starting from 19th March to 19th April 2012. Kindly send the registrar details below from your official email address to marketing@kenic.or.keThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .
Registrar Name: Registrar Official Email Address: Contact Person:
--------------------------------------------------
"In order to make the digital marketing campaign a massive success, KeNIC proposes to lower the cost of registering or renewing domain names ie. .co.ke,.or.ke and .ne.ke, for all registrars to Kshs 1,000( VAT Exclusive) for the duration of the promotion. However, in so doing, KeNIC wants end-users to benefit from this price discount when purchasing or renewing domain names from KeNIC registrars by also offering the domains at a maximum price of Kshs 1,500( VAT Exclusive).
We anticipate that more domain names will be registered during the campaign whilst at the same time ensuring that sales margins for registrars are unaffected. This time-bound offer will run only for the duration of the promotion and registrars who are ready to support this initiative need to communicate explicitly to by sending their details as requested above so that they may be featured on an exclusive list of registrars offering the discounted rate on our web site, and other communication channels. The duration of the promotion runs from 19th March to 19th April 2012. "
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
I've seen the annual
numbers for KENIC, and they're profitable. No issues there, that's a good thing, but it also shows that they can be more creative with the pricing and still do well.
Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com Crowdsourcing Crisis Information
[sent via mobile phone]
On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
What is the metric by which we measure the success of KENIC? For Becky it seem that the number of registrations is critical. For me, not so much. I would rather measure the success of KENIC by the amount of support it gives to Internet development and Internet Governance development in Kenya and the region. By this metric, KENIC has been very successful every year.
If the next KENIC CEO doesn't have to be a Kenyan citizen I would gladly take on the role, with the caveat that success metrics be spelled out in advance, and that they not be in conflict with each other.
If success is judged by number of registrations, it would be trivial to drop the price dramatically (as KENIC have done this month) and theoretically registrations should go up. However, this would mean a concomitant drop in revenue, which would mean that the NIC can't do many of the things it has done in the past to further Internet development in Kenya.
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
On 3/19/12, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Speaking of reconstituting the board, Members also raised the issue of Who is "DRAKE", and who's issues does it represent in he board?
Domain Registrars Association of Kenya (DRAKE), it clearly represents registrars interests, as it should.
Members were
agitated to know how representative DRAKE is but the chairman "hushed" the issue ...
Can that also be clarified before the next AGM?
*
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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Dear Colleagues, I wish to thank you all for the ongoing discussions of KeNIC. We have acknowledged and taken note of the very substantive issues raised and proposed recommendations. We acknowledge that KeNIC, has had its challenges as a growing organisation in the internet ecosystem. With this in mind we are currently undergoing an institutional assessment process to identify problems across the organisation and opportunities to help us make improvements. As we strive to improve KeNiC's effectiveness as a multi-stakeholder organisation, in an ever changing technical and policy environment, we would encourage and be very grateful if all stakeholders would attend the next AGM planed for July 2012, and make similar and/or new contributions. Voicing these issues at the AGM and in other processes will continue to strengthen KeNIC in achieving our mission and contribution to internet growth. We look forward to receiving more constructive comments and recommendations during this period as well as this year's AGM in July. We will keep stakeholders informed of developments in the process and dates for this years AGM. Best Regards Alice Munyua On 19/03/2012 22:23, McTim wrote:
On 3/19/12, Erik Hersman<erik@zungu.com> wrote:
+1 on McTim Thanks Hash (and Mwendwa)
Difference of opinion on registrations though. That should be one of the major metrics. If ordinary people can't afford domains, and they can't now, then we'll forever be playing catchup in this space.
Due to blogspot/FB/other free website opportunities, "we" may be playing catchup forever.
I'm not saying domains are dead, but it's hard to compete with freemium. What if domains were indeed no (fixed) cost from KENIC? Would registrars cough up 50% of their domain revenue to sustain KENIC? 30%? What might be a sustainable level using an alternative model?
Let's see if the current promotion (1000 bob from KeNIC to registrars, max 1500 bob from registrars to registrants) works:
http://www.kenic.or.ke/index.php/registrars/commitment
By providing your Registrar details you agree to lower the cost of registering or renewing domain names ie. .co.ke, .or.ke and .ne.ke, to all registrants to a maximum price of Ksh1,500(VAT Exclusive) for the duration of the promotion starting from 19th March to 19th April 2012. Kindly send the registrar details below from your official email address to marketing@kenic.or.keThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .
Registrar Name: Registrar Official Email Address: Contact Person:
--------------------------------------------------
"In order to make the digital marketing campaign a massive success, KeNIC proposes to lower the cost of registering or renewing domain names ie. .co.ke,.or.ke and .ne.ke, for all registrars to Kshs 1,000( VAT Exclusive) for the duration of the promotion. However, in so doing, KeNIC wants end-users to benefit from this price discount when purchasing or renewing domain names from KeNIC registrars by also offering the domains at a maximum price of Kshs 1,500( VAT Exclusive).
We anticipate that more domain names will be registered during the campaign whilst at the same time ensuring that sales margins for registrars are unaffected. This time-bound offer will run only for the duration of the promotion and registrars who are ready to support this initiative need to communicate explicitly to by sending their details as requested above so that they may be featured on an exclusive list of registrars offering the discounted rate on our web site, and other communication channels. The duration of the promotion runs from 19th March to 19th April 2012. "
Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office... Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems? Brian On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N
Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?"
There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both.
Brian
Quoting Rebecca
"Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community"
I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe *request *is a better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover".
"Then there is the problem of board interference. The micro management at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being accused of malice"
I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the facts.
Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes): http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf
*"Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC* *and* *sought clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of its website.* *The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the website redesign required further enquiry."* *So, Mr. Buruchara flanked the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what?
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
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@Brian,
From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics. I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not they are performing. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office...
Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems?
Brian
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N
Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?"
There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both.
Brian
Quoting Rebecca
"Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community"
I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe *request *is a better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover".
"Then there is the problem of board interference. The micro management at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being accused of malice"
I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the facts.
Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes): http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf
*"Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC* *and* *sought clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of its website.* *The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the website redesign required further enquiry."* *So, Mr. Buruchara flanked the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what?
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
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@Brian et al, Wait a minute. From the minutes of the last Board Meeting, Alice was amongst those "absent with apologies", so obviously she was NOT the chair of this meeting, right? *I have a feeling something is quite a miss with the minutes as posted and would like to take the earliest opportunity to apologise to Alice for this misrepresentation I have made.* Another glaring thing I have noted from the minutes is the Board Membership as constituted. CCK has such a significant number of membership in the KENIC Board. Now, seeing as things are going, I'd like to imagine that KENIC operates in the same space as the ISPs - or almost. With the recently introduced Kenya Communications Bill 2009, I suppose KENIC is supposed to be licensed just like the ISPs, and by this, it calls for all those in the KENIC board who are associated with CCK to step aside, right? Their continued presence in the KENIC Board seems like an illegality. Last but not least, what does the KENIC constitution say as regards the tenure of the Board Members? Can they sit there forever or is there a time limit? Good night, members. I must sit to enjoy my kumi-kumi now. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:06, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Brian,
From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics.
I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not they are performing.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office...
Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems?
Brian
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N
Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?"
There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both.
Brian
Quoting Rebecca
"Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community"
I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe *request *is a better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover".
"Then there is the problem of board interference. The micro management at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being accused of malice"
I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the facts.
Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes): http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf
*"Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC* *and* *sought clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of its website.* *The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the website redesign required further enquiry."* *So, Mr. Buruchara flanked the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what?
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
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@Wash, I think you zeroed in on the issue. What KENIC needs is a mechanism to limit the tenure of the board members to maximum two terms. It is standard practice in corporates and has even been embraced in our political life. Why not in KENIC? @ Brian, you hinted on calling an Extra-ordinary General Meeting (EGM). But my question has not been answered - when is the next AGM due? It could be next week and so no need for the EGM. Further, where is the KENIC constitution. Perhaps we need to review it before suggesting things that maybe good but "illegal" as far as the KENIC constituion is concerned. walu. --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right at KENIC To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:30 PM @Brian et al, Wait a minute. From the minutes of the last Board Meeting, Alice was amongst those "absent with apologies", so obviously she was NOT the chair of this meeting, right? I have a feeling something is quite a miss with the minutes as posted and would like to take the earliest opportunity to apologise to Alice for this misrepresentation I have made. Another glaring thing I have noted from the minutes is the Board Membership as constituted. CCK has such a significant number of membership in the KENIC Board. Now, seeing as things are going, I'd like to imagine that KENIC operates in the same space as the ISPs - or almost. With the recently introduced Kenya Communications Bill 2009, I suppose KENIC is supposed to be licensed just like the ISPs, and by this, it calls for all those in the KENIC board who are associated with CCK to step aside, right? Their continued presence in the KENIC Board seems like an illegality. Last but not least, what does the KENIC constitution say as regards the tenure of the Board Members? Can they sit there forever or is there a time limit? Good night, members. I must sit to enjoy my kumi-kumi now. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:06, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: @Brian,
From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics. I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not they are performing. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office... Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems? Brian On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?" There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both. Brian Quoting Rebecca "Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community" I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe request is a better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover". "Then there is the problem of board interference. The micro management at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being accused of malice" I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the facts. Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes): http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf "Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC and sought clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of its website. The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the website redesign required further enquiry." So, Mr. Buruchara flanked the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what? I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members. Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Brian Munyao Longwee-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: +254715964281 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com "Give us clear vision that we may know where to stand and what to stand for, because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. 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As you discuss KENIC performance, here is a good benchmark in terms of numbers: *Landmark 10 millionth .uk site registered* See details here:* * *http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17393008 * On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wash,
I think you zeroed in on the issue. What KENIC needs is a mechanism to limit the tenure of the board members to maximum two terms. It is standard practice in corporates and has even been embraced in our political life. Why not in KENIC?
@ Brian, you hinted on calling an Extra-ordinary General Meeting (EGM). But my question has not been answered - when is the next AGM due? It could be next week and so no need for the EGM. Further, where is the KENIC constitution. Perhaps we need to review it before suggesting things that maybe good but "illegal" as far as the KENIC constituion is concerned.
walu.
--- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right at KENIC
To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:30 PM
@Brian et al,
Wait a minute. From the minutes of the last Board Meeting, Alice was amongst those "absent with apologies", so obviously she was NOT the chair of this meeting, right? *I have a feeling something is quite a miss with the minutes as posted and would like to take the earliest opportunity to apologise to Alice for this misrepresentation I have made.*
Another glaring thing I have noted from the minutes is the Board Membership as constituted. CCK has such a significant number of membership in the KENIC Board. Now, seeing as things are going, I'd like to imagine that KENIC operates in the same space as the ISPs - or almost. With the recently introduced Kenya Communications Bill 2009, I suppose KENIC is supposed to be licensed just like the ISPs, and by this, it calls for all those in the KENIC board who are associated with CCK to step aside, right? Their continued presence in the KENIC Board seems like an illegality.
Last but not least, what does the KENIC constitution say as regards the tenure of the Board Members? Can they sit there forever or is there a time limit?
Good night, members. I must sit to enjoy my kumi-kumi now.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:06, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
@Brian,
From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics.
I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not they are performing.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office...
Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems?
Brian
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N
Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?"
There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both.
Brian
Quoting Rebecca
"Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community"
I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe *request *is a better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover".
"Then there is the problem of board interference. The micro management at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being accused of malice"
I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the facts.
Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes): http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf
*"Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC* *and* *sought clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of its website.* *The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the website redesign required further enquiry."* *So, Mr. Buruchara flanked the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what?
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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As you discuss KENIC performance, here is a good benchmark in terms of numbers:
Landmark 10 millionth .uk site registered See details here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17393008
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wash,
I think you zeroed in on the issue. What KENIC needs is a mechanism to
@ Brian, you hinted on calling an Extra-ordinary General Meeting (EGM). But my
question has not been answered - when is the next AGM due? It could be next week and so no need for the EGM. Further, where is the KENIC constitution. Perhaps we need to review it before suggesting things that maybe good but "illegal" as far as the KENIC constituion is concerned.
walu.
--- On Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right
at KENIC
To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:30 PM
@Brian et al,
Wait a minute. From the minutes of the last Board Meeting, Alice was amongst those "absent with apologies", so obviously she was NOT the chair of this meeting, right? I have a feeling something is quite a miss with the minutes as posted and would like to take the earliest opportunity to apologise to Alice for
Another glaring thing I have noted from the minutes is the Board
Membership as constituted. CCK has such a significant number of membership in the KENIC Board. Now, seeing as things are going, I'd like to imagine
Last but not least, what does the KENIC constitution say as regards the
tenure of the Board Members? Can they sit there forever or is there a time
Good night, members. I must sit to enjoy my kumi-kumi now.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:06, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
@Brian,
From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on
someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics.
I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they
always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not
Hi Dorcas, I would say that comparing the UK and KE isn't realistic due to different populations, median income, Internet history and penetration, etc. Rgds, McTim On Tuesday, March 20, 2012, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote: limit the tenure of the board members to maximum two terms. It is standard practice in corporates and has even been embraced in our political life. Why not in KENIC? this misrepresentation I have made. that KENIC operates in the same space as the ISPs - or almost. With the recently introduced Kenya Communications Bill 2009, I suppose KENIC is supposed to be licensed just like the ISPs, and by this, it calls for all those in the KENIC board who are associated with CCK to step aside, right? Their continued presence in the KENIC Board seems like an illegality. limit? they are performing.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on
when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office...
Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems? Brian
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On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N Having previously served a
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McTim.
I would say that comparing the UK and KE isn't realistic due to different populations, median income, Internet history and penetration, etc.
Rgds,
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McTim, Well, checking out the success factors of Nominet could form a good case study. Of course it is not and copy and paste situation. Nominet took over the TLD in 1996 at 26K domains and this is definitely impressive growth. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dorcas,
I would say that comparing the UK and KE isn't realistic due to different populations, median income, Internet history and penetration, etc.
Rgds,
McTim
As you discuss KENIC performance, here is a good benchmark in terms of numbers:
Landmark 10 millionth .uk site registered See details here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17393008
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wash,
I think you zeroed in on the issue. What KENIC needs is a mechanism to
@ Brian, you hinted on calling an Extra-ordinary General Meeting (EGM). But my
question has not been answered - when is the next AGM due? It could be next week and so no need for the EGM. Further, where is the KENIC constitution. Perhaps we need to review it before suggesting things that maybe good but "illegal" as far as the KENIC constituion is concerned.
walu.
--- On Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right
at KENIC
To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:30 PM
@Brian et al,
Wait a minute. From the minutes of the last Board Meeting, Alice was amongst those "absent with apologies", so obviously she was NOT the chair of this meeting, right? I have a feeling something is quite a miss with the minutes as posted and would like to take the earliest opportunity to apologise to Alice for
Another glaring thing I have noted from the minutes is the Board
Membership as constituted. CCK has such a significant number of membership in the KENIC Board. Now, seeing as things are going, I'd like to imagine
Last but not least, what does the KENIC constitution say as regards the
tenure of the Board Members? Can they sit there forever or is there a time
Good night, members. I must sit to enjoy my kumi-kumi now.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:06, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
@Brian,
From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on
someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics.
I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they
always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not
On Tuesday, March 20, 2012, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote: limit the tenure of the board members to maximum two terms. It is standard practice in corporates and has even been embraced in our political life. Why not in KENIC? this misrepresentation I have made. that KENIC operates in the same space as the ISPs - or almost. With the recently introduced Kenya Communications Bill 2009, I suppose KENIC is supposed to be licensed just like the ISPs, and by this, it calls for all those in the KENIC board who are associated with CCK to step aside, right? Their continued presence in the KENIC Board seems like an illegality. limit? they are performing.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on
when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office...
Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems? Brian
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On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N Having previously served a
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I think trying to compare KE with any other country brings in so many variables to consider that it just doesn't make sense - in his particular aspect. Kenyans walked into the .com generation and never walked out. I remember how difficult it was to convince a Kenyan that a .KE domain was as good as a .COM domain - they always thought .COM is it, everything else inferior. The uptake of e-mail addresses (and the people who use e-mail addresses are the same ones you expect to take up domain names) in the .COM (yahoo|hotmail) space will definately be higher than, say, najivuniakuwamkenya.co.ke Is the .UK registry structured along the same principles as the .KE one? I doubt. Using any other registry's performance as a benchmark to measure the performance of the .KE would be setting a very unrealistic target for KENIC. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:26, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
As you discuss KENIC performance, here is a good benchmark in terms of numbers:
*Landmark 10 millionth .uk site registered* See details here:* * *http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17393008 *
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wash,
I think you zeroed in on the issue. What KENIC needs is a mechanism to limit the tenure of the board members to maximum two terms. It is standard practice in corporates and has even been embraced in our political life. Why not in KENIC?
@ Brian, you hinted on calling an Extra-ordinary General Meeting (EGM). But my question has not been answered - when is the next AGM due? It could be next week and so no need for the EGM. Further, where is the KENIC constitution. Perhaps we need to review it before suggesting things that maybe good but "illegal" as far as the KENIC constituion is concerned.
walu.
--- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right at KENIC
To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:30 PM
@Brian et al,
Wait a minute. From the minutes of the last Board Meeting, Alice was amongst those "absent with apologies", so obviously she was NOT the chair of this meeting, right? *I have a feeling something is quite a miss with the minutes as posted and would like to take the earliest opportunity to apologise to Alice for this misrepresentation I have made.*
Another glaring thing I have noted from the minutes is the Board Membership as constituted. CCK has such a significant number of membership in the KENIC Board. Now, seeing as things are going, I'd like to imagine that KENIC operates in the same space as the ISPs - or almost. With the recently introduced Kenya Communications Bill 2009, I suppose KENIC is supposed to be licensed just like the ISPs, and by this, it calls for all those in the KENIC board who are associated with CCK to step aside, right? Their continued presence in the KENIC Board seems like an illegality.
Last but not least, what does the KENIC constitution say as regards the tenure of the Board Members? Can they sit there forever or is there a time limit?
Good night, members. I must sit to enjoy my kumi-kumi now.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:06, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
@Brian,
From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics.
I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not they are performing.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office...
Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems?
Brian
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N
Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?"
There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both.
Brian
Quoting Rebecca
"Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community"
I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe *request *is a better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover".
"Then there is the problem of board interference. The micro management at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being accused of malice"
I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the facts.
Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes): http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf
*"Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC* *and* *sought clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of its website.* *The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the website redesign required further enquiry."* *So, Mr. Buruchara flanked the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what?
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
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We are coming up with excuses rather than tackling the issue. I have a .me.ke and 2.coms for the same site, yet I have decided to shut down the .me.ke as I see it having little value than the .com How has South Africa and the UK convinced their users of the importance of their domains?
Aren't all registries in the same business? Selling domain names at an annually renewable fee? I have said many times before, I don't think KENIC is in a such bad position after-all. They have exclusive rights to sell a service at KES. 2000 (i would recommend a lower price) to 40m Kenyans and more than 1,000,000 entities be it a corporate, sme, schools and colleges, government agency etc. I think their performance has lots of room for creativity in business development for the local market, corporate governance, customer protection from unethical registrars, best practice awareness in the market, and other areas. I did not get a chance to be their last AGM but I know others will agree that KENIC is better known out there than locally. Thats how I see it. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
I think trying to compare KE with any other country brings in so many variables to consider that it just doesn't make sense - in his particular aspect.
Kenyans walked into the .com generation and never walked out. I remember how difficult it was to convince a Kenyan that a .KE domain was as good as a .COM domain - they always thought .COM is it, everything else inferior. The uptake of e-mail addresses (and the people who use e-mail addresses are the same ones you expect to take up domain names) in the .COM (yahoo|hotmail) space will definately be higher than, say, najivuniakuwamkenya.co.ke
Is the .UK registry structured along the same principles as the .KE one? I doubt.
Using any other registry's performance as a benchmark to measure the performance of the .KE would be setting a very unrealistic target for KENIC.
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:26, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
As you discuss KENIC performance, here is a good benchmark in terms of numbers:
*Landmark 10 millionth .uk site registered* See details here:* * *http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17393008 *
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wash,
I think you zeroed in on the issue. What KENIC needs is a mechanism to limit the tenure of the board members to maximum two terms. It is standard practice in corporates and has even been embraced in our political life. Why not in KENIC?
@ Brian, you hinted on calling an Extra-ordinary General Meeting (EGM). But my question has not been answered - when is the next AGM due? It could be next week and so no need for the EGM. Further, where is the KENIC constitution. Perhaps we need to review it before suggesting things that maybe good but "illegal" as far as the KENIC constituion is concerned.
walu.
--- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right at KENIC
To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:30 PM
@Brian et al,
Wait a minute. From the minutes of the last Board Meeting, Alice was amongst those "absent with apologies", so obviously she was NOT the chair of this meeting, right? *I have a feeling something is quite a miss with the minutes as posted and would like to take the earliest opportunity to apologise to Alice for this misrepresentation I have made.*
Another glaring thing I have noted from the minutes is the Board Membership as constituted. CCK has such a significant number of membership in the KENIC Board. Now, seeing as things are going, I'd like to imagine that KENIC operates in the same space as the ISPs - or almost. With the recently introduced Kenya Communications Bill 2009, I suppose KENIC is supposed to be licensed just like the ISPs, and by this, it calls for all those in the KENIC board who are associated with CCK to step aside, right? Their continued presence in the KENIC Board seems like an illegality.
Last but not least, what does the KENIC constitution say as regards the tenure of the Board Members? Can they sit there forever or is there a time limit?
Good night, members. I must sit to enjoy my kumi-kumi now.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:06, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
@Brian,
From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics.
I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not they are performing.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which Chairperson was in office...
Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to address the problems?
Brian
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC http://ht.ly/9K21N
Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask "what is amiss?"
There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or both.
Brian
Quoting Rebecca
"Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community"
I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe *request *is a better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover".
"Then there is the problem of board interference. The micro management at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being accused of malice"
I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the facts.
Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes): http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf
*"Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC* *and* *sought clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of its website.* *The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the website redesign required further enquiry."* *So, Mr. Buruchara flanked the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what?
*I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be replaced.
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On 3/20/12, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
Aren't all registries in the same business? Selling domain names at an annually renewable fee?
One would have thought that, but there seems to be some creativity in pricing possible: http://domainnamewire.com/2012/03/20/new-tld-pricing-model/ -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
Issues raised in this thread should not go to waste. Is it possible for member to sponsor a motion to the KENIC company secretary two months before the AGM so that Board members can only sit for a MAXIMUM of two years. This will bring synergy to KENIC and ensure new ideas are incorporated to this national strategic resource. Any reactions? -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva a.k.a lordmwesh For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
all i can say is, it wouldnt hurt to price .ke domains more competitively. On 3/29/12, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Issues raised in this thread should not go to waste.
Is it possible for member to sponsor a motion to the KENIC company secretary two months before the AGM so that Board members can only sit for a MAXIMUM of two years. This will bring synergy to KENIC and ensure new ideas are incorporated to this national strategic resource.
Any reactions?
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@Kivuva, two years is too little (that tells you am quite old ;-) anyway, you need to modify your proposal. Board members should server a term of 2-3yrs, renewable ONLY ONCE. That should ensure continuity (from old members) while allowing for new ideas (from newer board members) regards. walu. --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote: From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right at KENIC To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 29, 2012, 4:58 PM Issues raised in this thread should not go to waste. Is it possible for member to sponsor a motion to the KENIC company secretary two months before the AGM so that Board members can only sit for a MAXIMUM of two years. This will bring synergy to KENIC and ensure new ideas are incorporated to this national strategic resource. Any reactions? -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva a.k.a lordmwesh For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (12)
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Alice Munyua -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Collins Areba -
Dennis Kioko -
Dorcas Muthoni -
Erik Hersman -
Kivuva -
lordmwesh -
McTim -
Muchiri Nyaggah -
Odhiambo Washington -
Walubengo J