CS Kipchumba Murkomen's directive on Dashcams
Following the Londiani accident recently, CS Murkomen says all PSVs, school buses, and vans must be fitted with dash cams and telematics [0] to help curb road accidents. Being one of those who have dashcams on a private vehicle, I have been wondering how the above suggestion (yes, it is just that for now, I think) will help curb road accidents. Technically, it's possible to connect thousands of devices in real-time. The question is HOW and at WHOSE EXPENSE. We're looking at data connectivity which isn't available everywhere in this country. We're looking at the data bundle cost - who will foot the bill for connectivity? Lastly, we're looking at data storage. It's doable on AWS, GCP, or MS Cloud (Azure), but at whose cost? And is that cost necessary? Who will be the custodian of this data and how useful is it in preventing accidents? Personally, I believe it suffices to enforce the Speed Governors directive to the hilt. That has a direct way of curbing accidents related to speeding. But how do we prevent deaths from such vehicles as that trailer that lose control on a descent section? Such road sections should have an exit point for such vehicles and humans made to understand that they are supposed to stay away from those emergency exits. [0] Telematics is a term that combines the words telecommunications and informatics to describe the use of communications and IT to transmit, store and receive information from devices to remote objects over a network. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
I agree with you,,, nothing these cameras will help let them put their heads together and know better ways of curbing accidents because at the same time who will be monitoring the cameras and how does the monitors of the cameras help if for example the person mornitoring the cameras is in Nairobi CBD and the Vehicle for example is along the busy Thika road will he be able to control the driver that may be there is something ahead and may be the driver is busy driving will he bother may be to listen to him or drive? This is just a story we are creating that may be we can curb accidents by putting cameras,,, On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:15 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Following the Londiani accident recently, CS Murkomen says all PSVs, school buses, and vans must be fitted with dash cams and telematics [0] to help curb road accidents.
Being one of those who have dashcams on a private vehicle, I have been wondering how the above suggestion (yes, it is just that for now, I think) will help curb road accidents.
Technically, it's possible to connect thousands of devices in real-time. The question is HOW and at WHOSE EXPENSE. We're looking at data connectivity which isn't available everywhere in this country. We're looking at the data bundle cost - who will foot the bill for connectivity? Lastly, we're looking at data storage. It's doable on AWS, GCP, or MS Cloud (Azure), but at whose cost? And is that cost necessary? Who will be the custodian of this data and how useful is it in preventing accidents?
Personally, I believe it suffices to enforce the Speed Governors directive to the hilt. That has a direct way of curbing accidents related to speeding. But how do we prevent deaths from such vehicles as that trailer that lose control on a descent section? Such road sections should have an exit point for such vehicles and humans made to understand that they are supposed to stay away from those emergency exits.
[0] Telematics is a term that combines the words telecommunications and informatics to describe the use of communications and IT to transmit, store and receive information from devices to remote objects over a network. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] _______________________________________________ KICTANet mailing list -- kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To unsubscribe send an email to kictanet-leave@lists.kictanet.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at: https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/mm/lists/kictanet.lists.kictanet.or.ke/
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The directive is already causing a lot of confusion in the sector. Apart from the questions raised above, there are the issues of installation and maintenance. Plus standardization and protocols for the hardware and software, not to mention data privacy. One company, 'Roadwise Solutions' has a camera and 'telematics' solution in place and with several hundred clients, mostly long distance buses and trucks and schools. they told me the biggest question they are getting is; will their clients have to buy a new system or does their qualify? Before their innovation and creation of their own system from ground up ( including soldering hardware locally) there were no real technical standards set out. They are waiting to see whats rolled out. No one has spoken to them, or to any of the other operators, body builders or suppliers that they work with. The have data on installation, utilization, effectiveness, costs, accident rates and more going back 6 years. They have been working with companies to monitor driving behavior, speed, location as well as environment around the bus/truck through the cameras, which are not just dash cams but also cameras focusing on the drive and around the vehicle for environment data in case of an accident. This is accompanied by a blackbox that collects various other data points before transmission wirelessly. Video feeds have to be monitored real time or viewed periodically, or at least called up on a system if a check is triggered for some reason. Imagine doing this for thousands of PSV. Then what about access control, desired anonymity and data security? What about equipment and software? who owns and runs it and pays for costs? I have a hard time believing that this can be done especially by the seedier more rundown parts of our matatu industry like the Lunga Lunga and KIbera matatus. there is also installation. When i checked, it took almost 4 hours to wire one vehicle up properly before testing the system. This is more technical that just installing the speed governor/blackbox/data recorder. Do we have sufficient talent to undertake this? I think the Minister may already have a system in mind, but needs to clarify further just what the solution is and will fully entail. Finally, is more technology the answer? what about enforcement? and values? and governance and corruption and factor like counterfeit vehicle parts and products like brake pads and poor maintenance and cutting corners, and vehicle age and road conditions universally across the region and a jua kali approach to vehicle servicing? what role does that play in road carnage? On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 1:50 PM Sheriff via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I agree with you,,, nothing these cameras will help let them put their heads together and know better ways of curbing accidents because at the same time who will be monitoring the cameras and how does the monitors of the cameras help if for example the person mornitoring the cameras is in Nairobi CBD and the Vehicle for example is along the busy Thika road will he be able to control the driver that may be there is something ahead and may be the driver is busy driving will he bother may be to listen to him or drive? This is just a story we are creating that may be we can curb accidents by putting cameras,,,
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 1:15 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Following the Londiani accident recently, CS Murkomen says all PSVs, school buses, and vans must be fitted with dash cams and telematics [0] to help curb road accidents.
Being one of those who have dashcams on a private vehicle, I have been wondering how the above suggestion (yes, it is just that for now, I think) will help curb road accidents.
Technically, it's possible to connect thousands of devices in real-time. The question is HOW and at WHOSE EXPENSE. We're looking at data connectivity which isn't available everywhere in this country. We're looking at the data bundle cost - who will foot the bill for connectivity? Lastly, we're looking at data storage. It's doable on AWS, GCP, or MS Cloud (Azure), but at whose cost? And is that cost necessary? Who will be the custodian of this data and how useful is it in preventing accidents?
Personally, I believe it suffices to enforce the Speed Governors directive to the hilt. That has a direct way of curbing accidents related to speeding. But how do we prevent deaths from such vehicles as that trailer that lose control on a descent section? Such road sections should have an exit point for such vehicles and humans made to understand that they are supposed to stay away from those emergency exits.
[0] Telematics is a term that combines the words telecommunications and informatics to describe the use of communications and IT to transmit, store and receive information from devices to remote objects over a network. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] _______________________________________________ KICTANet mailing list -- kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To unsubscribe send an email to kictanet-leave@lists.kictanet.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at: https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/mm/lists/kictanet.lists.kictanet.or.ke/
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An opinion on the attached screenshot... Warm regards, Mutemi wa Kiama Team Captain, This Is Africa: https://thisisafrica.me Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public Intellectual, Social Justice & Social Accountability Entrepreneur, Strategic Planning & Organizational Development Facilitator, Strategic Communications, Movement Building Coach, Human Rights Defender, #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion. The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya) Ordinary, fearless Kenyans. https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwin-mutemi-wa-kiama-1aa51615/ Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt https://twitter.com/MutemiWaKiama http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 13:15 Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Following the Londiani accident recently, CS Murkomen says all PSVs, school buses, and vans must be fitted with dash cams and telematics [0] to help curb road accidents.
Being one of those who have dashcams on a private vehicle, I have been wondering how the above suggestion (yes, it is just that for now, I think) will help curb road accidents.
Technically, it's possible to connect thousands of devices in real-time. The question is HOW and at WHOSE EXPENSE. We're looking at data connectivity which isn't available everywhere in this country. We're looking at the data bundle cost - who will foot the bill for connectivity? Lastly, we're looking at data storage. It's doable on AWS, GCP, or MS Cloud (Azure), but at whose cost? And is that cost necessary? Who will be the custodian of this data and how useful is it in preventing accidents?
Personally, I believe it suffices to enforce the Speed Governors directive to the hilt. That has a direct way of curbing accidents related to speeding. But how do we prevent deaths from such vehicles as that trailer that lose control on a descent section? Such road sections should have an exit point for such vehicles and humans made to understand that they are supposed to stay away from those emergency exits.
[0] Telematics is a term that combines the words telecommunications and informatics to describe the use of communications and IT to transmit, store and receive information from devices to remote objects over a network. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] _______________________________________________ KICTANet mailing list -- kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To unsubscribe send an email to kictanet-leave@lists.kictanet.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at: https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/mm/lists/kictanet.lists.kictanet.or.ke/
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Someone analysed that the operability of the system is not a priority but the opportunity to supply and install the devices is the cherry on top. So expecting a well thought out plan is setting yourself up for disappointment. On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 17:29, Mutemi wa Kiama via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
An opinion on the attached screenshot...
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On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 13:15 Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Following the Londiani accident recently, CS Murkomen says all PSVs, school buses, and vans must be fitted with dash cams and telematics [0] to help curb road accidents.
Being one of those who have dashcams on a private vehicle, I have been wondering how the above suggestion (yes, it is just that for now, I think) will help curb road accidents.
Technically, it's possible to connect thousands of devices in real-time. The question is HOW and at WHOSE EXPENSE. We're looking at data connectivity which isn't available everywhere in this country. We're looking at the data bundle cost - who will foot the bill for connectivity? Lastly, we're looking at data storage. It's doable on AWS, GCP, or MS Cloud (Azure), but at whose cost? And is that cost necessary? Who will be the custodian of this data and how useful is it in preventing accidents?
Personally, I believe it suffices to enforce the Speed Governors directive to the hilt. That has a direct way of curbing accidents related to speeding. But how do we prevent deaths from such vehicles as that trailer that lose control on a descent section? Such road sections should have an exit point for such vehicles and humans made to understand that they are supposed to stay away from those emergency exits.
[0] Telematics is a term that combines the words telecommunications and informatics to describe the use of communications and IT to transmit, store and receive information from devices to remote objects over a network. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] _______________________________________________ KICTANet mailing list -- kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To unsubscribe send an email to kictanet-leave@lists.kictanet.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at: https://mm3-lists.kictanet.or.ke/mm/lists/kictanet.lists.kictanet.or.ke/
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