"It then follows that whoever sits on the AfriNIC board enjoys a privileged, unique position in as far as the development and evolution of the Internet in Africa is concerned, which is why Kenya's failure to present a candidate is worrying."

Walu, It is my understanding (I may be wrong), that Kenya presented a candidate, who was not shortlisted. I think as much as the local stakeholders have not succeeded in lobbying for our own to the Afrinic board (Its not only the government that has failed, but all other stakeholders collectively), we have also failed on directing the heat at Afrinic who for lack of a better word "have belittled our country". I agree with you on the bigger picture where government needs to see the importance of being more proactive. They dropped the ball, and nobody seems keen on picking it ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson On 26 May 2015 at 13:05, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Barrack

Thanks for sharing this information.

Walu, thanks for bringing up this critical issue.

My humble view is this has been a major bone of discussion on this list.

Policy makers in this country are abdicating their responsibilities by not addressing these critical issues. We have asked and discussed issues of critical importance to this country without their participation. These ‘soft’ issues don’t seem to be at the forefront of the key decision makers in this country.

Its high time these issues are given the importance they deserve.

Thanks & Regards

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On May 26, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Barrack Otieno via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Listers,

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2729620/-/yrlji4...

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On May 26, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

@Barrack, @Ali,

I give free advice. Unfortunately, some folks prefer to procure expensive advise from international consultants. Perhaps I should also start charging, then folks might listen :-)

walu.

From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Why is Kenya indifferent to how Africa's internet is managed?

Barrack

Thanks for sharing this information.

Walu, thanks for bringing up this critical issue.

My humble view is this has been a major bone of discussion on this list.

Policy makers in this country are abdicating their responsibilities by not addressing these critical issues. We have asked and discussed issues of critical importance to this country without their participation. These ‘soft’ issues don’t seem to be at the forefront of the key decision makers in this country.

Its high time these issues are given the importance they deserve.

Thanks & Regards

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...

On May 26, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Barrack Otieno via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke>> wrote:

Listers,

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2729620/-/yrlji4... <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2729620/-/yrlji4z/-/index.html>

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@ Barrack @Ali I read Walu’s article with interest but I think he has left out some pertinent details. Walu has been representing the East African region alongside myself on the Afrinic board. He first joined the board in 2010 and was re-elected as an alternate board member in 2013. The same time I was also elected on the board as a primary board member. When the incident of disconnection happened all board members were given prior notice to inform members not in good standing to fix or make solid commitments. Unfortunately for Kenya this was not done in time. In fact Walu played a key role in getting Kenya back online. And it helped that Kenya was represented an board level. Board representation is not by country but by Region. I have been the board member for the region since 2013 and the region has been represented. I’have business interest in the Telecom space in all East African countries and I have been active in the region for over 8 years. I believe the whole region is represented. I would say Kenya has been well represented over that period. A number of kenyans have also been very active in the Africa internet space for quite a long time. I remember I was introduced into the Internet space back in the 2002 by kenyans like, Michuki, Mucheru, Lwongwe, Alice to name but a few. These and many are names that make us in the East African Region proud. So I think the article is slightly not fare to the many kenyans very active and making the internet what is today. The issue with government The internet community have this love hate relationship. On one side we want them near but on the other we do not want them anywhere near the internet. Its like come but please just seat in the corner and look pretty. We are definitely a strong community in the African internet space and as Board member I have made sure that our impact is felt and as they say the struggle continues, we have to build on what our many veterans like the one I named above to build our regional internet in a proactive and co-operative way. I’m standing for re-election this year and hope to be given the mandate to continue representing the entire region. If the community feels they are areas key I have and continue to listen thus my being active on various lists. I hope this helps us clarify. regards [cid:D9F8540D-0BFB-4285-92BC-A2FB38FEFF3D] On 5/26/15, 11:05 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Barrack Thanks for sharing this information. Walu, thanks for bringing up this critical issue. My humble view is this has been a major bone of discussion on this list. Policy makers in this country are abdicating their responsibilities by not addressing these critical issues. We have asked and discussed issues of critical importance to this country without their participation. These ‘soft’ issues don’t seem to be at the forefront of the key decision makers in this country. Its high time these issues are given the importance they deserve. Thanks & Regards Ali Hussein ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke> +254 770 906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: Abu-Jomo LinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com<http://www.alyhussein.com> On May 26, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Barrack Otieno via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke>> wrote: Listers, http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2729620/-/yrlji4... Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc

+1. walu. From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Why is Kenya indifferent to how Africa's internet is managed? Badru Thanks for your response. I read Walu's article and I saw it a little bit differently. For me the issue is more meaningful discourse between government and the private sector on the softer issues of policy and engagement on critical ICT Infrastructure. And here I don't necessarily mean the 'dishing' out of board seats, tenders on installation and management of critical infrastructure.  I mean softer but equally important issues to do with Net Neutrality, Multi-Stakeholder engagement etc. These are being ignored. Or people who engage in them labelled 'Activists'.Let me explain:- 1. Internet.org. Is the regulator even interested in the damage this can do to our painstakingly built startup ecosystem? Not to mention the issue of potentially killing local content? We have asked what the country position is on this. We will probably discuss it at the Kenya IGF in July but without meaningful participation by the government side this will be another exercise in futility. 2. Net Neutrality. The telcos in this country are breaking all sorts of rules regarding Net-Neutrality. What is the regulator's response? Nothing. Let me rephrase this. What is our position on this? There has been very vigorous debate in India on this issue. We have the same (Albeit much smaller) ecosystem as them. Why are we not paying hid to this important issue? I can go on and on.. Badru, I think the point Walu was trying to bring across is this malaise in government and the private sector in our region regarding these critical issues. And there I think he hit the Bulls Eye. Ali HusseinHussein & Associates+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On May 30, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Badru Ntege via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @ Barrack @Ali I read Walu’s article with interest but I think he has left out some pertinent details.   Walu has been representing the East African region alongside myself on the Afrinic board.  He first joined the board in 2010 and was re-elected as an alternate board member in 2013.  The same time I was also elected on the board as a primary board member. When the incident of disconnection happened all board members were given prior notice to inform members not in good standing to fix or make solid commitments.  Unfortunately for Kenya this was not done in time. In fact Walu played a key role in getting Kenya back online.   And it helped that Kenya was represented an board level. Board representation is not by country but by Region.  I have been the board member for the region since 2013 and the region has been represented.  I’have business interest in the Telecom space in all East African countries and I have been active in the region for over 8 years.    I believe the whole region is represented. I would say Kenya has been well represented over that period.   A number of kenyans have also been very active in the Africa internet space for quite a long time.  I remember I was introduced into the Internet space back in the 2002 by kenyans like, Michuki, Mucheru, Lwongwe, Alice to name but a few.   These and many are names that make us in the East African Region proud. So I think the article is slightly not fare to the many kenyans very active and making the internet what is today. The issue with government The internet community have this love hate relationship.  On one side we want them near but on the other we do not want them anywhere near the internet.  Its like come but please just seat in the corner and look pretty. We are definitely a strong community in the African internet space and as Board member I have made sure that our impact is felt and as they say the struggle continues, we have to build on what our many veterans like the one I named above to build our regional internet in a proactive and co-operative way. I’m standing for re-election this year and hope to be given the mandate to continue representing the entire region.  If the community feels they are areas key I have and continue to listen thus my being active on various lists. I hope this helps us clarify. regards <A6B4555D-F867-4A2F-A9F9-BAF29039D12B[5].png> On 5/26/15, 11:05 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Barrack Thanks for sharing this information.  Walu, thanks for bringing up this critical issue. My humble view is this has been a major bone of discussion on this list. Policy makers in this country are abdicating their responsibilities by not addressing these critical issues. We have asked and discussed issues of critical importance to this country without their participation. These ‘soft’ issues don’t seem to be at the forefront of the key decision makers in this country. Its high time these issues are given the importance they deserve. Thanks & Regards Ali Hussein ali@hussein.me.ke +254 770 906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: Abu-JomoLinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com On May 26, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Barrack Otieno via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers, http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2729620/-/yrlji4... Regards -- Barrack O. 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