Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89
Alice, On the ITU national consultation process, I could be wrong but I'm yet to see even one national process in Africa...the positions seem to have been consolidated within the ATU process, and not sure how bottom up or open to comment that is. So the rhetoric that the ITU is trying to fight is not being helped by the opaqueness re the process by people can contribute / participate. Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/* On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote:
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1. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] (Ali Hussein) 2. Re: Articles, Speeches, Blogs and Publications about ITU and the ITRs] (alice@apc.org) 3. Broadcast, Film & Music Africa Conference, Nairobi 10-11 July (Sean Moroney)
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Alice
Very useful and vindication of the process we have started. Thanks!
Ali Hussein
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, <alice@apc.org> wrote:
Dear All,
I could send to you a much longer list of similar articles, blogs and publications about alleged ITU plans to take control of the Internet. I could also send to you many which state the contrary. But none of this will be of any use.
The last meeting of the Council Working Group (CWG) for WCIT started this morning 20 June and ends on 22 June. Find attached the speech of ITU Secretary-General, Dr. Hamadoun I. Tour?, delivered today at the opening of this last CWG WCIT meeting.
ITU has 193 Member States. The decision on the content of the revised
ITRs
will be made by ITU Membership at the end of this year (3-14 December) during the WCIT in Dubai. For those of you who represent your countries in ITU, I would encourage you to increase the involvement of the citizens of your countries in your national consultations during this process. I would also hope that your positions and views regarding ITU and the process to review the ITRs are based on actual proposals and discussions taking place in the appropriate ITU forums dealing with this subject and not necessarily on blogs, publications, speeches and media reports many of which do not accurately reflect the facts.
Also, please find attached a WCIT background brief which I hope will be helpful to have a basic understanding of what the ITRs are and the roles of sovereign states in the process leading to the review of this Treaty (the ITRs). Please feel free to share this brief and the speech of ITU Secretary-General as you consider appropriate.
For reliable and up-to-date information about ITU, the ITRs and WCIT, please visit www.itu.int/wcit<http://www.itu.int/wcit>
Regards,
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@ Ory, why can't we as stakeholders meet and come up with a position, I attended an ATU meeting in Feb and I noted that there is very little interest in the ITR processes in Africa it is upon this generation to reverse this trend, I propose that we discuss this issue during the forthcoming IGF meeting and come up with resolutions. We will then decide the next steps. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:20:21 To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Reply-To: ookolloh@gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Barrack and all I totally agree and I thought that we had kind of agreed to use that forum for this, Alice, I'm encouraged by the Dutch example and hope that we in Kenya can emulate that and come up with a National Position. At this juncture it would foolhardy to think that Africa as a continent can come up with a unified position. Forgive me but it would be akin to to herding cats! Regards Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:48 PM, otieno.barrack@gmail.com wrote:
@ Ory, why can't we as stakeholders meet and come up with a position, I attended an ATU meeting in Feb and I noted that there is very little interest in the ITR processes in Africa it is upon this generation to reverse this trend, I propose that we discuss this issue during the forthcoming IGF meeting and come up with resolutions. We will then decide the next steps. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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I totally agree and I thought that we had kind of agreed to use that forum for this,
Alice, I'm encouraged by the Dutch example and hope that we in Kenya can emulate that and come up with a National Position. At this juncture it would foolhardy to think that Africa as a continent can come up with a unified position. Forgive me but it would be akin to to herding cats!
Ali Hussein, you are using very tough euphemism on our brothers! We have seen Africa unite in the past.
Regards
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
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On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:48 PM, otieno.barrack@gmail.com wrote:
@ Ory, why can't we as stakeholders meet and come up with a position, I attended an ATU meeting in Feb and I noted that there is very little interest in the ITR processes in Africa it is upon this generation to reverse this trend, I propose that we discuss this issue during the forthcoming IGF meeting and come up with resolutions. We will then decide the next steps. Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:20:21 To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Reply-To: ookolloh@gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 61, Issue 89
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Kivuva I would agree with you that it's tough..Though its more on the 'tough love' side of things than anything else. May be that will make all of us realize our roles in all of this. Having said that I also believe in the old Scout Motto - Be Prepared! I am rooting for the day that we all in Africa will speak in one voice. We must work towards that and never loose hope. But meanwhile life must also continue. Regards Ali Hussein On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
I totally agree and I thought that we had kind of agreed to use that forum for this,
Alice, I'm encouraged by the Dutch example and hope that we in Kenya can emulate that and come up with a National Position. At this juncture it would foolhardy to think that Africa as a continent can come up with a unified position. Forgive me but it would be akin to to herding cats!
Ali Hussein, you are using very tough euphemism on our brothers! We have seen Africa unite in the past.
Regards
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:48 PM, otieno.barrack@gmail.com wrote:
@ Ory, why can't we as stakeholders meet and come up with a position, I attended an ATU meeting in Feb and I noted that there is very little interest in the ITR processes in Africa it is upon this generation to reverse this trend, I propose that we discuss this issue during the forthcoming IGF meeting and come up with resolutions. We will then decide the next steps. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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