Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources
Zacs, Your intervention is timely and makes a lot of sense, might this involve MOIC in any way, it would be nice to hear what the 'Government' says on this matter, i hope bwana PS comes is listening, and what do the consumers say? On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com> wrote:
allow me to comment on item 2 (a) as raised. my comment come as a layman not as an authority in the field.
Flashback: In order to implement KS1515 (Code of practice for inspection of road vehicles.) i believe it was a concerted effort between the ministry of finance and Kebs. the minister imposed a tax on the importation of vehicles above the age of 8 yrs which made it prohibitively expensive to make such an importation.
Comment: i therefore posit it that both KEBS and KRA (on behalf of the MoF) must work out a formula to implement a "ban" on the importation of none IPv6 compliant equipment.
--- On *Thu, 7/8/10, Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>, "Skunkworks forum" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 2:48 AM
Greetings All,
As we continue with our online discussions, I would like to remind you that you can still post your belated remarks on the previous themes, just remember to click on the right subject/title.
For the next two days (Thursday & Friday) we will be looking at Critical Internet Resources, Kenya perspective:
1) DNSSEC
Definition: introduces security at the infrastructure level through a hierarchy of cryptographic signatures attached to the DNS records. Users are assured that the source of the data is verifiably the stated source, and the mapping of name to IP address is accurate.
The stability, reliability and security of DNS data is paramount to any Top level domain (TLD)
In non- technical terms, what is in it for Kenya? why should we discuss it?
2) IPV6 –
Definition: is the culmination of over a decade's worth of work, mainly inspired by the IPV4 address* exhaustation *and is designed to enable the global expansion of the Internet.(http://www.afrinic.net/IPv6/)
I would like us to delve into IPV6, discussions from two perspectives:
a) Regulatory-
Last year, there was a suggestion that KEBS or KRA should ensure that no hardware or software should be allowed into the country that is not IPV6 compliant.
Any updates on that? Who should be in-charge?
b) How prepared are we (Kenya) any statistics? Are there any benefits? What are they?
In short the challenges and milestone.
I hope that our responses will put Solomon’s mind to rest, as he rightfully asked on day 1:
“One thing that I struggle to understand is IPV6. There are a number of essentials that will help the society fully migrate and adapt the IPV6 equipment. One thing that beats logic is how does one really know an equipment is IPV6 compliant? I posit this question because it emerged that all the so-called digital television in Kenya were not digital after all! “
Your thoughts, inputs, querries, comments, corrections are most welcome!
Kind Regards,
-- “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan
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The ban on the importation of vehicles older than eight years is merrily circumvented by entire car import cartels who just bribe port/customs staff. And from a quick look around our roads, it can't have done much for the general roadworthiness and safety of vehicles. On 09/07/2010, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Zacs,
Your intervention is timely and makes a lot of sense, might this involve MOIC in any way, it would be nice to hear what the 'Government' says on this matter, i hope bwana PS comes is listening, and what do the consumers say?
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com> wrote:
allow me to comment on item 2 (a) as raised. my comment come as a layman not as an authority in the field.
Flashback: In order to implement KS1515 (Code of practice for inspection of road vehicles.) i believe it was a concerted effort between the ministry of finance and Kebs. the minister imposed a tax on the importation of vehicles above the age of 8 yrs which made it prohibitively expensive to make such an importation.
Comment: i therefore posit it that both KEBS and KRA (on behalf of the MoF) must work out a formula to implement a "ban" on the importation of none IPv6 compliant equipment.
--- On *Thu, 7/8/10, Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>, "Skunkworks forum" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 2:48 AM
Greetings All,
As we continue with our online discussions, I would like to remind you that you can still post your belated remarks on the previous themes, just remember to click on the right subject/title.
For the next two days (Thursday & Friday) we will be looking at Critical Internet Resources, Kenya perspective:
1) DNSSEC
Definition: introduces security at the infrastructure level through a hierarchy of cryptographic signatures attached to the DNS records. Users are assured that the source of the data is verifiably the stated source, and the mapping of name to IP address is accurate.
The stability, reliability and security of DNS data is paramount to any Top level domain (TLD)
In non- technical terms, what is in it for Kenya? why should we discuss it?
2) IPV6 –
Definition: is the culmination of over a decade's worth of work, mainly inspired by the IPV4 address* exhaustation *and is designed to enable the global expansion of the Internet.(http://www.afrinic.net/IPv6/)
I would like us to delve into IPV6, discussions from two perspectives:
a) Regulatory-
Last year, there was a suggestion that KEBS or KRA should ensure that no hardware or software should be allowed into the country that is not IPV6 compliant.
Any updates on that? Who should be in-charge?
b) How prepared are we (Kenya) any statistics? Are there any benefits? What are they?
In short the challenges and milestone.
I hope that our responses will put Solomon’s mind to rest, as he rightfully asked on day 1:
“One thing that I struggle to understand is IPV6. There are a number of essentials that will help the society fully migrate and adapt the IPV6 equipment. One thing that beats logic is how does one really know an equipment is IPV6 compliant? I posit this question because it emerged that all the so-called digital television in Kenya were not digital after all! “
Your thoughts, inputs, querries, comments, corrections are most welcome!
Kind Regards,
-- “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan
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I know the discussion is not about cars..When I needed to bring in a car over 8 yrs old (one can if they have been working or studying in a foreign country), I had to obtain a letter signed by the Minister of Trade. The freight company and related govt officials were obviously not in the loop of the corrupt. regards, Wamuyu ________________________________ From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> To: wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke-users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Sent: Fri, 9 July, 2010 14:27:03 Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources The ban on the importation of vehicles older than eight years is merrily circumvented by entire car import cartels who just bribe port/customs staff. And from a quick look around our roads, it can't have done much for the general roadworthiness and safety of vehicles. On 09/07/2010, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Zacs,
Your intervention is timely and makes a lot of sense, might this involve MOIC in any way, it would be nice to hear what the 'Government' says on this matter, i hope bwana PS comes is listening, and what do the consumers say?
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com> wrote:
allow me to comment on item 2 (a) as raised. my comment come as a layman not as an authority in the field.
Flashback: In order to implement KS1515 (Code of practice for inspection of road vehicles.) i believe it was a concerted effort between the ministry of finance and Kebs. the minister imposed a tax on the importation of vehicles above the age of 8 yrs which made it prohibitively expensive to make such an importation.
Comment: i therefore posit it that both KEBS and KRA (on behalf of the MoF) must work out a formula to implement a "ban" on the importation of none IPv6 compliant equipment.
--- On Thu, 7/8/10, Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>, "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 2:48 AM
Greetings All, As we continue with our online discussions, I would like to remind you that you can still post your belated remarks on the previous themes, just remember to click on the right subject/title. For the next two days (Thursday & Friday) we will be looking at Critical Internet Resources, Kenya perspective: 1) DNSSEC Definition: introduces security at the infrastructure level through a hierarchy of cryptographic signatures attached to the DNS records. Users are assured that the source of the data is verifiably the stated source, and the mapping of name to IP address is accurate. The stability, reliability and security of DNS data is paramount to any Top level domain (TLD) In non- technical terms, what is in it for Kenya? why should we discuss it? 2) IPV6 – Definition: is the culmination of over a decade's worth of work, mainly inspired by the IPV4 addressexhaustation and is designed to enable the global expansion of the Internet.(http://www.afrinic.net/IPv6/) I would like us to delve into IPV6, discussions from two perspectives: a) Regulatory- Last year, there was a suggestion that KEBS or KRA should ensure that no hardware or software should be allowed into the country that is not IPV6 compliant. Any updates on that? Who should be in-charge? b) How prepared are we (Kenya) any statistics? Are there any benefits? What are they? In short the challenges and milestone. I hope that our responses will put Solomon’s mind to rest, as he rightfully asked on day 1: “One thing that I struggle to understand is IPV6. There are a number of essentials that will help the society fully migrate and adapt the IPV6 equipment. One thing that beats logic is how does one really know an equipment is IPV6 compliant? I posit this question because it emerged that all the so-called digital television in Kenya were not digital after all! “ Your thoughts, inputs, querries, comments, corrections are most welcome! Kind Regards, -- “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan
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Dear Wamuyu, I suppose the issue becomes more complicated considering the fact that we still rely a lot on used computers and related equipment, it might not be as easy as it appears on paper. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
I know the discussion is not about cars..When I needed to bring in a car over 8 yrs old (one can if they have been working or studying in a foreign country), I had to obtain a letter signed by the Minister of Trade. The freight company and related govt officials were obviously not in the loop of the corrupt.
regards, Wamuyu
------------------------------ *From:* Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> *To:* wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke-users < ke-internetusers@bdix.net> *Sent:* Fri, 9 July, 2010 14:27:03 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources
The ban on the importation of vehicles older than eight years is merrily circumvented by entire car import cartels who just bribe port/customs staff.
And from a quick look around our roads, it can't have done much for the general roadworthiness and safety of vehicles.
On 09/07/2010, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Zacs,
Your intervention is timely and makes a lot of sense, might this involve MOIC in any way, it would be nice to hear what the 'Government' says on this matter, i hope bwana PS comes is listening, and what do the consumers say?
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com> wrote:
allow me to comment on item 2 (a) as raised. my comment come as a layman not as an authority in the field.
Flashback: In order to implement KS1515 (Code of practice for inspection of road vehicles.) i believe it was a concerted effort between the ministry of finance and Kebs. the minister imposed a tax on the importation of vehicles above the age of 8 yrs which made it prohibitively expensive to make such an importation.
Comment: i therefore posit it that both KEBS and KRA (on behalf of the MoF) must work out a formula to implement a "ban" on the importation of none IPv6 compliant equipment.
--- On *Thu, 7/8/10, Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>, "Skunkworks forum" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 2:48 AM
Greetings All,
As we continue with our online discussions, I would like to remind you that you can still post your belated remarks on the previous themes, just remember to click on the right subject/title.
For the next two days (Thursday & Friday) we will be looking at Critical Internet Resources, Kenya perspective:
1) DNSSEC
Definition: introduces security at the infrastructure level through a hierarchy of cryptographic signatures attached to the DNS records. Users are assured that the source of the data is verifiably the stated source, and the mapping of name to IP address is accurate.
The stability, reliability and security of DNS data is paramount to any Top level domain (TLD)
In non- technical terms, what is in it for Kenya? why should we discuss it?
2) IPV6 –
Definition: is the culmination of over a decade's worth of work, mainly inspired by the IPV4 address* exhaustation *and is designed to enable the global expansion of the Internet.(http://www.afrinic.net/IPv6/)
I would like us to delve into IPV6, discussions from two perspectives:
a) Regulatory-
Last year, there was a suggestion that KEBS or KRA should ensure that no hardware or software should be allowed into the country that is not IPV6 compliant.
Any updates on that? Who should be in-charge?
b) How prepared are we (Kenya) any statistics? Are there any benefits? What are they?
In short the challenges and milestone.
I hope that our responses will put Solomon’s mind to rest, as he rightfully asked on day 1:
“One thing that I struggle to understand is IPV6. There are a number of essentials that will help the society fully migrate and adapt the IPV6 equipment. One thing that beats logic is how does one really know an equipment is IPV6 compliant? I posit this question because it emerged that all the so-called digital television in Kenya were not digital after all! “
Your thoughts, inputs, querries, comments, corrections are most welcome!
Kind Regards,
-- “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan
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Dear All, thank you, for your informative inputs.... Zacs, I hope that the respective persons will be able to take up your challenge and put things in place....this is the success of IGF bring together Multi-stakeholders on the same table/discussion, identify the issue and probable way forward. Kind Regards, On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear Wamuyu,
I suppose the issue becomes more complicated considering the fact that we still rely a lot on used computers and related equipment, it might not be as easy as it appears on paper.
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
I know the discussion is not about cars..When I needed to bring in a car over 8 yrs old (one can if they have been working or studying in a foreign country), I had to obtain a letter signed by the Minister of Trade. The freight company and related govt officials were obviously not in the loop of the corrupt.
regards, Wamuyu
------------------------------ *From:* Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com> *To:* wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; ke-users < ke-internetusers@bdix.net> *Sent:* Fri, 9 July, 2010 14:27:03 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources
The ban on the importation of vehicles older than eight years is merrily circumvented by entire car import cartels who just bribe port/customs staff.
And from a quick look around our roads, it can't have done much for the general roadworthiness and safety of vehicles.
On 09/07/2010, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Zacs,
Your intervention is timely and makes a lot of sense, might this involve MOIC in any way, it would be nice to hear what the 'Government' says on this matter, i hope bwana PS comes is listening, and what do the consumers say?
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com> wrote:
allow me to comment on item 2 (a) as raised. my comment come as a layman not as an authority in the field.
Flashback: In order to implement KS1515 (Code of practice for inspection of road vehicles.) i believe it was a concerted effort between the ministry of finance and Kebs. the minister imposed a tax on the importation of vehicles above the age of 8 yrs which made it prohibitively expensive to make such an importation.
Comment: i therefore posit it that both KEBS and KRA (on behalf of the MoF) must work out a formula to implement a "ban" on the importation of none IPv6 compliant equipment.
--- On *Thu, 7/8/10, Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 4 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>, "Skunkworks forum" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 2:48 AM
Greetings All,
As we continue with our online discussions, I would like to remind you that you can still post your belated remarks on the previous themes, just remember to click on the right subject/title.
For the next two days (Thursday & Friday) we will be looking at Critical Internet Resources, Kenya perspective:
1) DNSSEC
Definition: introduces security at the infrastructure level through a hierarchy of cryptographic signatures attached to the DNS records. Users are assured that the source of the data is verifiably the stated source, and the mapping of name to IP address is accurate.
The stability, reliability and security of DNS data is paramount to any Top level domain (TLD)
In non- technical terms, what is in it for Kenya? why should we discuss it?
2) IPV6 –
Definition: is the culmination of over a decade's worth of work, mainly inspired by the IPV4 address* exhaustation *and is designed to enable the global expansion of the Internet.(http://www.afrinic.net/IPv6/)
I would like us to delve into IPV6, discussions from two perspectives:
a) Regulatory-
Last year, there was a suggestion that KEBS or KRA should ensure that no hardware or software should be allowed into the country that is not IPV6 compliant.
Any updates on that? Who should be in-charge?
b) How prepared are we (Kenya) any statistics? Are there any benefits? What are they?
In short the challenges and milestone.
I hope that our responses will put Solomon’s mind to rest, as he rightfully asked on day 1:
“One thing that I struggle to understand is IPV6. There are a number of essentials that will help the society fully migrate and adapt the IPV6 equipment. One thing that beats logic is how does one really know an equipment is IPV6 compliant? I posit this question because it emerged that all the so-called digital television in Kenya were not digital after all! “
Your thoughts, inputs, querries, comments, corrections are most welcome!
Kind Regards,
-- “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan
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