Dear Pius, I'm not sure that I see any pasha and digital villages around. We "talk" about them, yes. The study shows that we need to do more than "talk". Rwanda stands tall when it comes to universal access while they are struggling with human capital. We stand tall on human capital, but unfortunately don't have these services penetrating to the rural and remote areas (bottom of the pyramid) where they can begin to make a difference in addressing the multi-dimensional aspects of poverty! Edith. From: Pius Walela [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:42 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Key challenge is the implementation. Its true there is substantial progress (Pasha ,Digital villages etc) what is lacking is the necessary structure and impetus to actually do what is necessary. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:10 PM To: Pius Walela Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Listers, For those of you who missed the ICT/Poverty conference this morning, one of the prominent issues that came out is the fact that Kenya is NOT doing enough to address universal access to communication services! As a result, issues of vulnerability, asset poverty and physical poverty (access to services) persist! Comparative results from our neighbours in East Africa shows that they are scoring on some of these issues. There's talk of digital villages and the UA Fund - yet there is no delivery! what's not going right? Edith ________________________________ Strathmore University provides all-round education in an atmosphere of freedom and responsibility. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for use by the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this email and/or any files attached to it from your computer. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Strathmore University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email and/or its attachments. The University warrants neither the integrity of the e-mail nor its freedom from errors, viruses, interception or any other form of interference. ............................................................................ Website: www.strathmore.edu<http://www.strathmore.edu>

I couldn't agree more. We have spent years working on models that work for rural communities in Kenya only to face challenge after challenge. The sad part is that while the models were developed for Kenya and have limited deployment here and are in great demand by other countries. You can see examples of our work at www.voicesofafrica.org. On 12/2/10, Pius Walela <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Edith ,

Concur there is sufficient human capital contrary to Rwanda , ironically there is no actual dissemination of services to the BOP....there is dire need to hasten the trickle down effect. However mobile technologies can serve as a key to overcome this challenge...

Regards.

From: Edith Adera [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:04 PM To: Pius Walela Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?)

Dear Pius,

I'm not sure that I see any pasha and digital villages around. We "talk" about them, yes. The study shows that we need to do more than "talk". Rwanda stands tall when it comes to universal access while they are struggling with human capital. We stand tall on human capital, but unfortunately don't have these services penetrating to the rural and remote areas (bottom of the pyramid) where they can begin to make a difference in addressing the multi-dimensional aspects of poverty!

Edith.

From: Pius Walela [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:42 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: RE: Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?)

Key challenge is the implementation. Its true there is substantial progress (Pasha ,Digital villages etc) what is lacking is the necessary structure and impetus to actually do what is necessary.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:10 PM To: Pius Walela Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?)

Listers,

For those of you who missed the ICT/Poverty conference this morning, one of the prominent issues that came out is the fact that Kenya is NOT doing enough to address universal access to communication services! As a result, issues of vulnerability, asset poverty and physical poverty (access to services) persist! Comparative results from our neighbours in East Africa shows that they are scoring on some of these issues.

There's talk of digital villages and the UA Fund - yet there is no delivery! what's not going right?

Edith

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Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational. This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out. IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs. The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people. I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions. We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it. On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: John Kieti <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 10:36:25 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke

Almost all our sports celebrities are non Kikuyu e.g. McDonald Mariga, David Rudisha, Nancy Lagat, Janeth Jepkosgei .. Why not use them to spread the news about some of these youth initiatives & funds via mainstream media or via regional media channels e.g. Kass FM, Ramogi FM etc .. Make radio announcements during sports events eg. Kenya vs .. ? On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Edith Adera <[email protected]> wrote:

Bwana Ndemo,

The mood on the universal access issue was that of "frustration" at the workshop, and no one seemed to be aware that " one operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs" - is this information available within the public domain? Where are these DVs? Which operator? Are there targets and a penalty for the rest not rolling out given that this is in lieu of paying for UA - which is a citizen right?

I can't agree with you more on the need to have young people bold enough to " take the appropriate risks to innovate and develop successful enterprises". I dare to add that we need "A new breed of young people" that will:- * exude self-confidence; *will demonstrate effective leadership with integrity; *will have the ethos of community service; *and will take risks, innovative and build mega businesses.

The issue of targeting the age of 15-29 years was prominent in the discussions at the workshop. Unfortunately, not many young people know that these funds exist or even how to access them (this was evident in a recent regional forum we organized on youth and ICTs and youth from Kibera and rural Kenya were shocked to learn of it!).

Indeed, the idea of the research work is to "emphasize evidence based decision-making" - the prominence and active participation of representatives from the Ministry of Planning, Poverty Unit and Vision 2030 was very welcome by participants! and it's our hope that some of the ideas that came out of the forum will be taken up. The PS challenged the academia to partner with govt. to do further analysis on the census data (which has now been released) to further explore the issues on ICTs and poverty (since ICT questions were quite prominent in the census).

We look forward to more information on the 500 DVs.

Edith

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: kictanet-bounces+eadera <kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.or.ke@ lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:34 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?)

Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational.

This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out.

IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs.

The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people.

I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions.

We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it.

On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL.

Ndemo.

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And indeed we remain very committed to the continued rollout of the DV. Betty Mwangi from my team is responsible for this initiative. Betty can be reached via [email protected]. Bob On 12/3/10 4:05 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

Edith, Safaricom moved with speed to roll out. I will find out the new person responsible for DVs in Safaricom and link her/him to you.

It is unfortunate that I did not attend the function. I understand these were study findings that did not find out in detail what we as the implenters were doing and where. IBM study which visted several DVs started from our offices and the findings have direct impact because we shall seek to implement all the recommendations.

It is criminal that there are youth and women in this country who do not know that there is money available for setting up business. It is also equally inexusable that we have unemployed graduates who should be trained to write business plans for youth and women enterprises. There is enough money in CDF to provide such training.

We (all of us) must begin to dirty our hands by moving from conference rooms to begin hands on training in rural Kenya. In 1963 we agreed that ignorance is one of the diseases we wanted to eliminate but 47 years down the road a Kenyan is suffering somewhere yet there is plenty of resources to move us forward. I fail to understand for example, how we tolerate a dirty city, uncollected rates and a high unemployment.

We have agency banking law that would make DVs an instant success as remote banking facilities but even the most educated Kenyan sometimes has no idea this law exists. How can we move from complaining to discussing such issues that are bound to signicantly affect our lifes?

Ndemo.

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Bwana Ndemo,

The mood on the universal access issue was that of "frustration" at the workshop, and no one seemed to be aware that " one operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs" - is this information available within the public domain? Where are these DVs? Which operator? Are there targets and a penalty for the rest not rolling out given that this is in lieu of paying for UA - which is a citizen right?

I can't agree with you more on the need to have young people bold enough to " take the appropriate risks to innovate and develop successful enterprises". I dare to add that we need "A new breed of young people" that will:- * exude self-confidence; *will demonstrate effective leadership with integrity; *will have the ethos of community service; *and will take risks, innovative and build mega businesses.

The issue of targeting the age of 15-29 years was prominent in the discussions at the workshop. Unfortunately, not many young people know that these funds exist or even how to access them (this was evident in a recent regional forum we organized on youth and ICTs and youth from Kibera and rural Kenya were shocked to learn of it!).

Indeed, the idea of the research work is to "emphasize evidence based decision-making" - the prominence and active participation of representatives from the Ministry of Planning, Poverty Unit and Vision 2030 was very welcome by participants! and it's our hope that some of the ideas that came out of the forum will be taken up. The PS challenged the academia to partner with govt. to do further analysis on the census data (which has now been released) to further explore the issues on ICTs and poverty (since ICT questions were quite prominent in the census).

We look forward to more information on the 500 DVs.

Edith

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:34 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?)

Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational.

This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out.

IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs.

The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people.

I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions.

We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it.

On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL.

Ndemo.

Sent from my BlackBerry(r)

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Thanks Edith. I know all other operators are on this list. I want to urge them to provide names of their DVs implementers as Safaricom has done so the civil society can conduct a public audit. I do not always have to be the intermediary. We must be careful in defining Universal Access to avoid misleading the public. As I said, we must embrace evidence based decision making and as we tackle poverty, the past has a lot to offer. Some our serios challenges include the NGOs. They have completely messed up our rural folks to the extent we need serious intervention. We were not able to train on DVs as many people as we wanted since majority made demands to be paid just as it is done with NGOs. You start a class with 40 and end up with 5. Appearing in some rural villages elists a Puvlovian tendencies. We must not make our people dependent. In my view this must be criminalized. Politicians have perfected this habbit. If we want to succeed, hard work and rebuilding our value systems must flow through our systems like blood. I am reading a Hopper brothers book, The Puritan Gift. If I had the powers I would make it a mandatory read for every soul in Kenya. It reveals how a reformist movement from the Catholic Church to Anglican fought through hard work, fear of God and values to overcome 15th century European problems (surprisingly similar our today problems) to become so wealthy in the new world. The Puritan Ethic to which they subsribed to, was implanted in Japan by Macuther and spread through NICs of Asia including China and brought enormous success. In a roundabout way, I am introducing our shortcomings and how we can move from a fragmented (tribalized) lot as defined by politicians to reformists brought together by a common value system or ideology. Success as a people is pipe dream if logic and understanding are on the periphery. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Edith Adera <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:06:46 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Bwana Ndemo, Safaricom and their partners need to do a better job to let people know that these DVs exist and exactly where they are (especially in this case when they have been asked to do so in lieu of paying for UA funds!!). I would love to see one of these DVs and what model is being used. Operators who have not met the target and deadline (I hope a deadline was given) should be penalized and asked to pay up the 1% as Kenyans at the bottom of the pyramid are not getting the services. The study was specifically targetting households in the poorest enumeration areas of Kenya (level 4 and 5 according the KNBS classification) - it was a rigourous study design in which two panels were conducted in 2007/2008 and 2009/2010 and the same households were traced to assess impact over time. It tells you that these services are yet to reach the most remote areas. We must also recognize that there are other areas where Kenya did better than its neighbors in the study especially in the area of human capital, income, inclusion etc. But clearly, the area of universal access requires more work. Once we've consolidated the findings at the regional level, we'll have clear recommendations on what Kenya could do differently to tilt the balance in favor of the poor. I agree with you, absolutely, on the need to identify some of these practical (pragmatic ideas) to get them implemented and tested! Within the context of the Counties, we can do alot to achieve universal access. It was unfortunate that you could not attend the meeting, but there will be another opportunity when we will share the final findings (and provide regional comparisons) Nice weekend! Edith ________________ Edith Ofwona Adera Senior Program Specialist ICT4D Program and Climate Change & Water Program International Development Research Centre | Centre de recherches pour le développement international Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa Tel: +254202713160 | Fax/Téléc: +254202711063 | Skype: edithadera [email protected] | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2010 16:05 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Edith, Safaricom moved with speed to roll out. I will find out the new person responsible for DVs in Safaricom and link her/him to you. It is unfortunate that I did not attend the function. I understand these were study findings that did not find out in detail what we as the implenters were doing and where. IBM study which visted several DVs started from our offices and the findings have direct impact because we shall seek to implement all the recommendations. It is criminal that there are youth and women in this country who do not know that there is money available for setting up business. It is also equally inexusable that we have unemployed graduates who should be trained to write business plans for youth and women enterprises. There is enough money in CDF to provide such training. We (all of us) must begin to dirty our hands by moving from conference rooms to begin hands on training in rural Kenya. In 1963 we agreed that ignorance is one of the diseases we wanted to eliminate but 47 years down the road a Kenyan is suffering somewhere yet there is plenty of resources to move us forward. I fail to understand for example, how we tolerate a dirty city, uncollected rates and a high unemployment. We have agency banking law that would make DVs an instant success as remote banking facilities but even the most educated Kenyan sometimes has no idea this law exists. How can we move from complaining to discussing such issues that are bound to signicantly affect our lifes? Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Edith Adera <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 14:33:03 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Bwana Ndemo, The mood on the universal access issue was that of "frustration" at the workshop, and no one seemed to be aware that " one operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs" - is this information available within the public domain? Where are these DVs? Which operator? Are there targets and a penalty for the rest not rolling out given that this is in lieu of paying for UA - which is a citizen right? I can't agree with you more on the need to have young people bold enough to " take the appropriate risks to innovate and develop successful enterprises". I dare to add that we need "A new breed of young people" that will:- * exude self-confidence; *will demonstrate effective leadership with integrity; *will have the ethos of community service; *and will take risks, innovative and build mega businesses. The issue of targeting the age of 15-29 years was prominent in the discussions at the workshop. Unfortunately, not many young people know that these funds exist or even how to access them (this was evident in a recent regional forum we organized on youth and ICTs and youth from Kibera and rural Kenya were shocked to learn of it!). Indeed, the idea of the research work is to "emphasize evidence based decision-making" - the prominence and active participation of representatives from the Ministry of Planning, Poverty Unit and Vision 2030 was very welcome by participants! and it's our hope that some of the ideas that came out of the forum will be taken up. The PS challenged the academia to partner with govt. to do further analysis on the census data (which has now been released) to further explore the issues on ICTs and poverty (since ICT questions were quite prominent in the census). We look forward to more information on the 500 DVs. Edith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:34 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational. This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out. IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs. The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people. I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions. We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it. On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry(r) -----Original Message----- From: John Kieti <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 10:36:25 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eadera%40idrc.or.ke ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world"

Hi Edith I wish to give a context to the IBM Corporate Social Corps (CSC) study mentioned by PS Dr Ndemo and the findings. IBM CSC is a leadership social give-back initiative designed to expose high performing IBM employees to emerging business markets, diverse cultures , global teams and complex policy environments. The programme focuses on several priorities which include 1. Economic development and innovation,2. Raising global standards in education, 3. Broadening cultural awareness,4. Promoting openness and transparency, and brings together teams of IBM leaders with a diverse set of skills from around the world and different business units. These teams are placed in growth markets to tackle important social and economic issues in collaboration with government and NGO partners from around the world. This year Kenya was a beneficiary of the CSC programme and IBM CSC deployed 11 experts selected from across the globe for one month on pro-bono basis. The first beneficiary and really exploited the opportunity was MOIC under Dr Ndemo who wanted the team to undertake an in-depth review of digital villages. The Team arrived in Kenya on September 17th for one month who carried out an in-depth review through visits to digital villages, pasha centres, telecentres and community knowledge centres and addressed the following areas . Strategic Positioning of Digital Villages as Centres for Rural Empowerment and Development . Strategic Framework: Rural IT Enabled Services (ITES) for Digital Villages . Empowering Entrepreneurs to Successfully Operate their Digital Villages The output is an detailed analysis of the status, challenges and very concise framework to go forward. In particular, the teams indentified many opportunities on outsourcing services in the rural areas some of which are indentified as low lying fruits---. In short, DV are the confluence of rural development and empowerment and a tool to eradicate the digital divide and exclusion. With the universal access well advanced - over 80% of population with afordable coverage -- DV are an opportunity to unlock sustainable growth in the rural areas. It is certainly gratifying to note that Kenyan corporates are already taking advantage of the outcome of the study and is a mark of confidence on digital villages and the exemplary vision of Dr Ndemo to banish digital exclusion. IBM contracted Digital Opportunity Trust (DOT) ( www.dotrust.org) to manage the Kenyan programme in addition to other similar programmes in China, Turkey, Lebanon and Egypt .I am responsible for the kenyan prgramme . Two teams are scheduled in the first half of next year. cheers Muriuki Mureithi What can u do to promote world peace? Go home and love your family. -Mother Teresa -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.k e] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 03 December 2010 16:05 To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Edith, Safaricom moved with speed to roll out. I will find out the new person responsible for DVs in Safaricom and link her/him to you. It is unfortunate that I did not attend the function. I understand these were study findings that did not find out in detail what we as the implenters were doing and where. IBM study which visted several DVs started from our offices and the findings have direct impact because we shall seek to implement all the recommendations. It is criminal that there are youth and women in this country who do not know that there is money available for setting up business. It is also equally inexusable that we have unemployed graduates who should be trained to write business plans for youth and women enterprises. There is enough money in CDF to provide such training. We (all of us) must begin to dirty our hands by moving from conference rooms to begin hands on training in rural Kenya. In 1963 we agreed that ignorance is one of the diseases we wanted to eliminate but 47 years down the road a Kenyan is suffering somewhere yet there is plenty of resources to move us forward. I fail to understand for example, how we tolerate a dirty city, uncollected rates and a high unemployment. We have agency banking law that would make DVs an instant success as remote banking facilities but even the most educated Kenyan sometimes has no idea this law exists. How can we move from complaining to discussing such issues that are bound to signicantly affect our lifes? Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: Edith Adera <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 14:33:03 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Bwana Ndemo, The mood on the universal access issue was that of "frustration" at the workshop, and no one seemed to be aware that " one operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs" - is this information available within the public domain? Where are these DVs? Which operator? Are there targets and a penalty for the rest not rolling out given that this is in lieu of paying for UA - which is a citizen right? I can't agree with you more on the need to have young people bold enough to " take the appropriate risks to innovate and develop successful enterprises". I dare to add that we need "A new breed of young people" that will:- * exude self-confidence; *will demonstrate effective leadership with integrity; *will have the ethos of community service; *and will take risks, innovative and build mega businesses. The issue of targeting the age of 15-29 years was prominent in the discussions at the workshop. Unfortunately, not many young people know that these funds exist or even how to access them (this was evident in a recent regional forum we organized on youth and ICTs and youth from Kibera and rural Kenya were shocked to learn of it!). Indeed, the idea of the research work is to "emphasize evidence based decision-making" - the prominence and active participation of representatives from the Ministry of Planning, Poverty Unit and Vision 2030 was very welcome by participants! and it's our hope that some of the ideas that came out of the forum will be taken up. The PS challenged the academia to partner with govt. to do further analysis on the census data (which has now been released) to further explore the issues on ICTs and poverty (since ICT questions were quite prominent in the census). We look forward to more information on the 500 DVs. Edith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:34 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational. This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out. IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs. The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people. I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions. We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it. On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL. Ndemo. 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Hi Dr. Ndemo, Thank you for the information. I am aware of the DV development by Safaricom and I have had discussions with the persons involved. What about the other operators and service providers? Is there a requirement for them to spent a certain proportion of their revenue on DVs, in line with the way US cointributions are calculated? What happens to those operators who ignore this "invitation" or do not roll out "enough" in line with their revenues? What is the composition and mandate of the committee you mention? What is the role of the regulator (has mandate for USO) in all this? These are some of the issues that bother me. Regards. tim On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational.

This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out.

IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs.

The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people.

I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions.

We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it.

On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL.

Ndemo.

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Prof. I am in the US till the 15th. The committee is chaired by Paul and cmposed of the operators and CCK. Please ask Paul how far they have gone. We did in such a way that they become the losers if they dfo not deploy but let us hear from Paul. Ndemoz. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Mwololo Tim <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 20:33:54 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Hi Dr. Ndemo, Thank you for the information. I am aware of the DV development by Safaricom and I have had discussions with the persons involved. What about the other operators and service providers? Is there a requirement for them to spent a certain proportion of their revenue on DVs, in line with the way US cointributions are calculated? What happens to those operators who ignore this "invitation" or do not roll out "enough" in line with their revenues? What is the composition and mandate of the committee you mention? What is the role of the regulator (has mandate for USO) in all this? These are some of the issues that bother me. Regards. tim On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational.

This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out.

IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs.

The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people.

I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions.

We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it.

On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL.

Ndemo.

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Tim Indeed I will provide an answer tomorrow. Today has been unusually busy day and I have been unable to get round to this. I will provide 2 updates. On the pasha project of the board and the updates from our earlier meetings with the operators as well as an update from speaking to them on their latest progress. Regards Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Mwololo Tim <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected]: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:09:49 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pkukubo%40ict.go.ke

Bwana Ndemo, It would be nice to get a definition of what we mean by digital villages? I would want to imagine that this does NOT mean a traditional telecentre model (with one-point access). Communities have since moved on to innovate and build their own networks bottom-up! What we refer to as the first mile. So you have a "cloud of connectivity" which can be used to connect various corporate and individual users under that "cloud" rather than the traditional one-point access centre. Local skills are used to design, build and maintain the network, to run it as a social enterprise (on business terms) and to link it to development outcomes. I've attached a presentation I made last week in S. Sudan to show how this has been done in Nigeria, Uganda, Angola, SA, Mozambique and Zimbabwe. In Uganda, we also established a community wireless resource centre at the Electrical engineering dept of Makerere University to integrate the training into the University curriculum, to provide ongoing technical backstopping to the community deployments and also to offer short-term courses for ordinary citizens to acquire skills in community wireless networking. So you can grow local skills and critical mass quickly! This is now institutionalized and running way beyond the donor funding. Tanzania has an interesting community-owned fibre model using existing fibre owned by the Water company - the dark fibre is in use to provide connectivity to neighboring villages! (this is a partnership between the Science and technology council of TZ and a Swedish University). The TZ fibre model is very impressive - given we have lots of fibre lying idle along railway lines, power lines, water companies, NOFBI etc We need more innovation than we are putting our UA funds to...this will help reach UA much faster while building local skills! I worry about our approach to UA. And can we have more "public domain" feedback on UA in Kenya (it's too quiet!). Edith From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:46 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Prof. I am in the US till the 15th. The committee is chaired by Paul and cmposed of the operators and CCK. Please ask Paul how far they have gone. We did in such a way that they become the losers if they dfo not deploy but let us hear from Paul. Ndemoz. Sent from my BlackBerry(r) ________________________________ From: Mwololo Tim <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 20:33:54 -0800 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Hi Dr. Ndemo, Thank you for the information. I am aware of the DV development by Safaricom and I have had discussions with the persons involved. What about the other operators and service providers? Is there a requirement for them to spent a certain proportion of their revenue on DVs, in line with the way US cointributions are calculated? What happens to those operators who ignore this "invitation" or do not roll out "enough" in line with their revenues? What is the composition and mandate of the committee you mention? What is the role of the regulator (has mandate for USO) in all this? These are some of the issues that bother me. Regards. tim On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:34 AM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational. This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out. IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs. The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people. I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions. We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it. On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL. Ndemo. 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Edith et. al., This makes for very interesting reading; I am also very concerned about this Universal access issue...even the simple understanding of what it means to those who are supposed to provide it and ultimately to the consumers. I go back to two of Tim's questions that I would also like to get responses for: 1. What happens to those operators who ignore this "invitation" or do not roll out "enough" in line with their revenues? 2. What is the role of the regulator (has mandate for USO) in all this? I also want to add the concern Edith has about not going back to the old telecentre models (enough lessons learnt about many that failed), there is enough empirical evidence to show why these cannot work. The challenge is that many people have not clearly understood the Digital Villages concept...I would like to write more about this but I think this sentence says it all. I also agree with Edith that we need more innovation in the way we are dealing with this Universal Access issue. I do not think the problem is lack of innovators...innovative ideas for roll out...Kenya has plenty. The real problem is................. I rest my case, Nyaki ________________________________ From: Edith Adera <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 1:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Bwana Ndemo, It would be nice to get a definition of what we mean by digital villages? I would want to imagine that this does NOT mean a traditional telecentre model (with one-point access). Communities have since moved on to innovate and build their own networks bottom-up! What we refer to as the first mile. So you have a “cloud of connectivity” which can be used to connect various corporate and individual users under that “cloud” rather than the traditional one-point access centre. Local skills are used to design, build and maintain the network, to run it as a social enterprise (on business terms) and to link it to development outcomes. I’ve attached a presentation I made last week in S. Sudan to show how this has been done in Nigeria, Uganda, Angola, SA, Mozambique and Zimbabwe. In Uganda, we also established a community wireless resource centre at the Electrical engineering dept of Makerere University to integrate the training into the University curriculum, to provide ongoing technical backstopping to the community deployments and also to offer short-term courses for ordinary citizens to acquire skills in community wireless networking. So you can grow local skills and critical mass quickly! This is now institutionalized and running way beyond the donor funding. Tanzania has an interesting community-owned fibre model using existing fibre owned by the Water company – the dark fibre is in use to provide connectivity to neighboring villages! (this is a partnership between the Science and technology council of TZ and a Swedish University). The TZ fibre model is very impressive – given we have lots of fibre lying idle along railway lines, power lines, water companies, NOFBI etc We need more innovation than we are putting our UA funds to…this will help reach UA much faster while building local skills! I worry about our approach to UA. And can we have more “public domain” feedback on UA in Kenya (it’s too quiet!). Edith From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:46 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Prof. I am in the US till the 15th. The committee is chaired by Paul and cmposed of the operators and CCK. Please ask Paul how far they have gone. We did in such a way that they become the losers if they dfo not deploy but let us hear from Paul. Ndemoz. Sent from my BlackBerry® ________________________________ From: Mwololo Tim <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 20:33:54 -0800 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Hi Dr. Ndemo, Thank you for the information. I am aware of the DV development by Safaricom and I have had discussions with the persons involved. What about the other operators and service providers? Is there a requirement for them to spent a certain proportion of their revenue on DVs, in line with the way US cointributions are calculated? What happens to those operators who ignore this "invitation" or do not roll out "enough" in line with their revenues? What is the composition and mandate of the committee you mention? What is the role of the regulator (has mandate for USO) in all this? These are some of the issues that bother me. Regards. tim On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project. I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational. This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept. We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF. One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs. There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out. IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition. As a result we have key corporations willing to participate. For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs. The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency. Most regions folks expect grants. The resources available are for revolving funds. In other words loans to set up the enterprise. There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank. Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise. Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people. I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group. We could not move for obvious reasons. I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions. At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions. We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information. Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people. We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it. On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL. Ndemo. 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Dakatari, Actually my concern is that even those who should understand are constantly asking questions...which means the concept it not very clear to them. Those of us who may understand constantly try to explain but what we get are more questions than answers...maybe that is why I expressed it as a concern...justifiably. I believe many, including Edith, are already doing what they can in the rural areas to get people to understand but I am not sure what is needed to get more people to do more albeit pro bono. Nyaki ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: Catherine Adeya <[email protected]>; [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 12:45:04 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Dakitari, Paul has given some good details. The question now is not whether we understand the concept or not. It is those who are in this list and those would read the advert to find innovative ways of each talking to rural folks from wherever they come from into understang first risk and two enterpreneurialism. Our main goal is to ensure countrywide distribuition. It is hopeless to expect Government to conduct the awareness exercise at this late hour. Government indeed went around the country to train and explaing the concept. As I said before some folks did not find it attractive. On the Opetator DV, the regulator as a member of the taskforce wrote to them. CCK has the figures and the abilty to audit what has been done. Finaly we all have the responsibility to educate our people on such matters "ask not what the country has done to you but what you have done to your country". I think this was what Kennedy roughly said. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Adeya <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:46:23 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke

Dear Listers, It is high time we review our Policy on UA/S to make align it with our national ITC strategies.  The UA fund model, where well managed  has worked quite well in the countries that are scring hgher in the implemetaion of UA strategies. It should be left to operators to decide on which medel to use.  Also there should be an elaborate regulatory compliance returns methodolgy, developed by the regulatory authority to have the data, and even make it posted in their website for the public to have access, not to relying on what the operators would save with respect to the accesibilty of the services. I am not sure whether this DV cocept falls under regulatory requireent as a substitute to UA Fund, and whther the regulator has the powers to enforce it.  Some of the studies could also have purposeful objectives. Regards Vitalis ________________________________ From: Edith Adera <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 1:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) Bwana Ndemo,   It would be nice to get a definition of what we mean by digital villages?   I would want to imagine that this  does NOT mean a traditional telecentre model (with one-point access). Communities have since moved on to innovate and build their own networks bottom-up! What we refer to as the first mile. So you have a “cloud of connectivity” which can be used to connect various corporate and individual users under that “cloud” rather than the traditional one-point access centre. Local skills are used to design, build and maintain the network, to run it as a social enterprise (on business terms) and to link it to development outcomes.   I’ve attached a presentation I made last week in S. Sudan to show how this has been done in Nigeria, Uganda, Angola, SA, Mozambique and Zimbabwe. In Uganda, we also established a community wireless resource centre at the Electrical engineering dept of Makerere University to integrate the training into the University curriculum, to provide ongoing technical backstopping to the community deployments and also to offer short-term courses for ordinary citizens to acquire skills in community wireless networking. So you can grow local skills and critical mass quickly! This is now institutionalized and running way beyond the donor funding.   Tanzania has an interesting community-owned fibre model using existing fibre owned by the Water company – the dark fibre is in use to provide connectivity to neighboring villages! (this is a partnership between the Science and technology council of TZ and a Swedish University). The TZ fibre model is very impressive – given we have lots of fibre lying idle along railway lines, power lines, water companies, NOFBI etc   We need more innovation than we are putting our UA funds to…this will help reach UA much faster while building local skills! I worry about our approach to UA. And can we have more “public domain” feedback on UA in Kenya (it’s too quiet!).   Edith   From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:46 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?)   Prof. I am in the US till the 15th. The committee is chaired by Paul and cmposed of the operators and CCK. Please ask Paul how far they have gone. We did in such a way that they become the losers if they dfo not deploy but let us hear from Paul. Ndemoz. Sent from my BlackBerry® ________________________________ From: Mwololo Tim <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 20:33:54 -0800 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?)   Hi Dr. Ndemo, Thank you for the information. I am aware of the DV development by Safaricom and I have had discussions with the persons involved. What about the other operators and service providers? Is there a requirement for them to spent a certain proportion of their revenue on DVs, in line with the way US cointributions are calculated? What happens to those operators who ignore this "invitation" or do not roll out "enough" in line with their revenues? What is the composition and mandate of the committee you mention? What is the role of the regulator (has mandate for USO) in all this? These are some of the issues that bother me. Regards. tim On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Listers, I am on record several times complaining the slow pace by the World Bank to release the funds for the Pasha project.  I am told that this will happen in January even though their pilot projects are operational. This did not stop us from advancing the digital village concept.  We invited the operators to roll them out in return for not paying the first year USF.  One operator has already rolled out 500 of these DVs.  There is a committee in place to help the rest of the operators roll out. IBM conducted a study on DVs to help further develop the value proposition.  As a result we have key corporations willing to participate.  For example CFC Stanbic want their online share trade to be on DVs. The challenge we have is getting entrepreneurs from every constituency.  Most regions folks expect grants.  The resources available are for revolving funds.  In other words loans to set up the enterprise.  There is plenty of loanable resources from Youth and Women Enterprise to the world bank.  Our people must get to understand risk and enterprise.  Individually we must spend all our energies to educate our people. I must state here that the last time we advertised, 95 percent of the 2000 applications came from one ethnic group.  We could not move for obvious reasons.  I would hope in future listers seek to understand the problem before rushing to making conclusions.  At this time of our development we must emphasize evidence based decisions. We are talking to MPs to assist disseminate some of these information.  Our Parliamentary Chairman Hon. Eng. Spends most of the time explaining and encouraging MPs to sensatize their own people.  We cannot for for example to North Hor and put up a DV without willing people to run it. On NOFBI I do not know what you are talking about because I know some operators are using the network and it is managed by TKL. Ndemo. 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Vitalis, There a dead horse parable which I am pretty sure you may have come accross. We may be wanting to re-examine it, go overseas to establish how dead horses are revived, bring in experts on dead horses .... Let us move to impact the lifes of those UA was meant for. Some two years back we spent inordinately a great deal of time debating this issue. Now it is implementation time. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Vitalis Olunga <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 00:26:30 To: <[email protected]> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Universal Access in Kenya (Is it really working?) _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke