BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online
Hello, This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat... ---- Kind regards, Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) *T: 0733522229, 0704090471* | *personal - *0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke <http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: <http://twitter.com/uQweli> @cheekynoni <http://twitter.com/cheekynoni> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
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From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
Jane Thanks for sharing. This paragraph in the article stands out:- "Police have frequently used section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." So sending a message that causes annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety is now a criminal offense? If we continue to be intimidated by this then I fear most listers on this list have been offenders many times over. As a country we need to review how we engage and of course decency, decorum and etiquette should be foremost in our minds when we post on social media. The question is how do we deal with supposed offenders. And what measurement do we use? Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jane Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
----
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE)
T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
----
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE)
*T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke <http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/>
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: <http://twitter.com/uQweli> @cheekynoni <http://twitter.com/cheekynoni>
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
Dorcas With all due respect. That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
----
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE)
*T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke <http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/>
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: <http://twitter.com/uQweli> @cheekynoni <http://twitter.com/cheekynoni>
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
Hi Ali, No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers. Best, Muthoni Dorcas With all due respect. That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
----
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE)
*T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke <http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/>
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: <http://twitter.com/uQweli> @cheekynoni <http://twitter.com/cheekynoni>
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
Dorcas That I definitely agree and support. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 26 Jan 2016, at 5:39 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Ali,
No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers.
Best, Muthoni
Dorcas
With all due respect.
That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu.
Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers.
On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
----
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE)
T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
@AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a balance? #Just asking. Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online From: [email protected] CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] To: [email protected] Hi Ali, No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers. Best, Muthoni Dorcas With all due respect. That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association.Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat... Kind regards, Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Listers, This is for your information. Thanks. B. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]>
Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3
To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56
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FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks
-
Yaovi Atohoun
Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa
ICANN ? www.icann.org
Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
Grace We definitely need to find a balance. The answer however is not to blanket condemn bloggers/Journalists. As Voltaire, the French Philosopher, once said:- ' I may not like what you say, but I will defend your right to say it' We must be guided by our constitution whenever we are in doubt. And that constitution is clear about such things. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:49 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
@Ali Does free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a balance? #Just asking.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online From: [email protected] CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] To: [email protected]
Hi Ali,
No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers.
Best, Muthoni
Dorcas
With all due respect.
That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu.
Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association.
Ali Hussein
Principal
Hussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers.
On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
----
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE)
T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
Yes GG, And the constitution actually states those limitations in Chapter 4 of the constitution, article 24, and 33, and there are many other legislation which seek to balance these rights. But we should be very careful not to play into the hands of those who want to limit our rights further. States all over are very good in timing. They make legislation to the law to limit fundamental freedoms when people are scared. Like currently, we are a very scared society, and may want to trade off our rights for a sense of security. But if we do that, it will only be an illusion. On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
@AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a balance? #Just asking.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online From: [email protected] CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] To: [email protected]
Hi Ali, No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers. Best, Muthoni Dorcas With all due respect. That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association.Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE)
T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300
From: Bobs <[email protected]>
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Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]>
Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3
To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56
Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks
-
Yaovi Atohoun
Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa
ICANN ? www.icann.org
Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
Mwendwa, I get and understand your PoV. But, the other side of the coin is that there are those who are also misusing the same laws, just as the state is misusing the same laws, to spread the same fear. Organisations such as BAKE should cut both ways when dealing with misuse of the laws. Rgds On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes GG,
And the constitution actually states those limitations in Chapter 4 of the constitution, article 24, and 33, and there are many other legislation which seek to balance these rights.
But we should be very careful not to play into the hands of those who want to limit our rights further. States all over are very good in timing. They make legislation to the law to limit fundamental freedoms when people are scared. Like currently, we are a very scared society, and may want to trade off our rights for a sense of security. But if we do that, it will only be an illusion.
@AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a balance? #Just asking.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online From: [email protected] CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] To: [email protected]
Hi Ali, No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers. Best, Muthoni Dorcas With all due respect. That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association.Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in
right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I
you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and
On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: the think prosecution
of Kenyans online. Read more here:
http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya
(BAKE)
T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300
From: Bobs <[email protected]>
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Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]>
Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3
To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56
Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks
-
Yaovi Atohoun
Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa
ICANN ? www.icann.org
Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
Hello Dorcas, Please note that not all bloggers are BAKE members but we do condemn the intimidation they are facing. The bloggers named in the article are not our members. ---- Kind regards, Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) *T: 0733522229, 0704090471* | *personal - *0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke <http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: <http://twitter.com/uQweli> @cheekynoni <http://twitter.com/cheekynoni> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <[email protected]> wrote:
But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidat...
----
Kind regards,
Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE)
*T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 800927 e: [email protected] w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke <http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/>
skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: <http://twitter.com/uQweli> @cheekynoni <http://twitter.com/cheekynoni>
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Listers,
This is for your information. Thanks.
B.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Yaovi Atohoun <[email protected]> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <[email protected]>
FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen@ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en
Merci/thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228
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