Security Boost from China - Is it a hit or a miss?
Listers, I have been pondering over this generous offer from the Chinese Tech Group Huawei to enhance our Security Infrastructure in Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret, however with recent cases of Cyber Security how safe are we as a country with such offers?. I have heard of cases of car tracking devices being used to facilitate car jackings against unsuspecting owners, aren't we giving away too much data about ourselves assuming Huawei will be providing support for this Infrastructure?, have we thought of possible backdoors that could give away the tonnes of data collected from the Infrastructure? Before we implement the new system , it would also be good to know whether the one deployed in Nairobi worked as well. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
@Barrack, Assuming they deploy the infrastructure and are actively providing support: 1.I honestly doubt they would give complete access to their equipment. 2.Will there be access to where the data is being stored temporarily/ permanently 3.What happens in the event the agreement/contract is terminated what happens to the data collected or stored? 4.If we do not have complete control/ access can we be sure who does? In my view it is a miss unless we have complete control of the infrastructure deployed and the data collected, i could be wrong but there are too many loopholes by being in the passenger's seat . Kind regards, Brian M. Nyali. brian@kenic.or.ke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: "Brian Nyali" <brian@kenic.or.ke> Cc: "otieno barrack" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 14 May, 2017 21:24:36 Subject: [kictanet] Security Boost from China - Is it a hit or a miss? Listers, I have been pondering over this generous offer from the Chinese Tech Group Huawei to enhance our Security Infrastructure in Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret, however with recent cases of Cyber Security how safe are we as a country with such offers?. I have heard of cases of car tracking devices being used to facilitate car jackings against unsuspecting owners, aren't we giving away too much data about ourselves assuming Huawei will be providing support for this Infrastructure?, have we thought of possible backdoors that could give away the tonnes of data collected from the Infrastructure? Before we implement the new system , it would also be good to know whether the one deployed in Nairobi worked as well. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40kenic.or.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Listers Huawei was the subject of a US Congress Intelligence Committee probe and until today are restricted from doing business in the US due what the US says 'They are susceptible to interference by a foreign state player. Huawei has tried and gone to great lengths to deny that the Chinese Government either owns them or exerts undue influence on them. Read the FT article below and be a judge for yourself. https://www.ft.com/content/469bde20-9eaf-11e3-8663-00144feab7de This reminds me of Star Times, the Chinese Broadcasting entity that now has a presence in 30 odd countries in Africa and in Zambia even took over the National Broadcaster. He who pays the piper calls the tune. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 14 May 2017, at 11:32 PM, Brian Nyali via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Barrack,
Assuming they deploy the infrastructure and are actively providing support: 1.I honestly doubt they would give complete access to their equipment. 2.Will there be access to where the data is being stored temporarily/ permanently 3.What happens in the event the agreement/contract is terminated what happens to the data collected or stored? 4.If we do not have complete control/ access can we be sure who does? In my view it is a miss unless we have complete control of the infrastructure deployed and the data collected, i could be wrong but there are too many loopholes by being in the passenger's seat .
Kind regards, Brian M. Nyali. brian@kenic.or.ke
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: "Brian Nyali" <brian@kenic.or.ke> Cc: "otieno barrack" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 14 May, 2017 21:24:36 Subject: [kictanet] Security Boost from China - Is it a hit or a miss?
Listers,
I have been pondering over this generous offer from the Chinese Tech Group Huawei to enhance our Security Infrastructure in Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret, however with recent cases of Cyber Security how safe are we as a country with such offers?. I have heard of cases of car tracking devices being used to facilitate car jackings against unsuspecting owners, aren't we giving away too much data about ourselves assuming Huawei will be providing support for this Infrastructure?, have we thought of possible backdoors that could give away the tonnes of data collected from the Infrastructure? Before we implement the new system , it would also be good to know whether the one deployed in Nairobi worked as well.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
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Allowing the Chinese to plug into our system is giving away the country. Nothing is free. Cyber Espionage is just about to start with such power being given to them. We will get crippled later. Even if we allow them to help, I will say about 4 different vetting should be done on the systems before go live. ~ze3D~ On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Huawei was the subject of a US Congress Intelligence Committee probe and until today are restricted from doing business in the US due what the US says 'They are susceptible to interference by a foreign state player.
Huawei has tried and gone to great lengths to deny that the Chinese Government either owns them or exerts undue influence on them. Read the FT article below and be a judge for yourself.
https://www.ft.com/content/469bde20-9eaf-11e3-8663-00144feab7de
This reminds me of Star Times, the Chinese Broadcasting entity that now has a presence in 30 odd countries in Africa and in Zambia even took over the National Broadcaster.
*He who pays the piper calls the tune.*
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On 14 May 2017, at 11:32 PM, Brian Nyali via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Barrack,
Assuming they deploy the infrastructure and are actively providing support: 1.I honestly doubt they would give complete access to their equipment. 2.Will there be access to where the data is being stored temporarily/ permanently 3.What happens in the event the agreement/contract is terminated what happens to the data collected or stored? 4.If we do not have complete control/ access can we be sure who does? In my view it is a miss unless we have complete control of the infrastructure deployed and the data collected, i could be wrong but there are too many loopholes by being in the passenger's seat .
Kind regards, Brian M. Nyali. brian@kenic.or.ke
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: "Brian Nyali" <brian@kenic.or.ke> Cc: "otieno barrack" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 14 May, 2017 21:24:36 Subject: [kictanet] Security Boost from China - Is it a hit or a miss?
Listers,
I have been pondering over this generous offer from the Chinese Tech Group Huawei to enhance our Security Infrastructure in Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret, however with recent cases of Cyber Security how safe are we as a country with such offers?. I have heard of cases of car tracking devices being used to facilitate car jackings against unsuspecting owners, aren't we giving away too much data about ourselves assuming Huawei will be providing support for this Infrastructure?, have we thought of possible backdoors that could give away the tonnes of data collected from the Infrastructure? Before we implement the new system , it would also be good to know whether the one deployed in Nairobi worked as well.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 <0721%20325277> +254733206359 <0733%20206359> Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
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Good afternoon, The alarmist posts on this forum on every engagement/activity by the National Government is quite unsettling, bearing the notion that we are 'more' informed or have better access to information to make decisive conclusions. It is important to understand that Huawei is providing telecommunication equipment in the form of new hardware and of course, in-built technology to run it. In broader terms, an integrated CCTV surveillance system that includes video cameras, digital radios connected to a central command conferencing system to enhance security and improve the National Police Service's operational capacity. This essentially means that the equipment is for receiving and recording criminal activity and not a data holding cell for public records. Access to videos and images captured is real time at the command centers which are now to be expanded to other major cities within the country. There is no system that is being plugged into, this is not an upgrade of existing infrastructure, the country is purely creating a new, state of the art digital based surveillance system. Cases in court will no longer be inadmissible based on 'witness account of events' and criminals will no longer be confident hiding under such misgivings of the law. Huawei has been sought as the equipment provider based on the quality and latency of image/video that their hardware provides, which is also cost effective. Cyber crime remains a potential threat to everything connected to a network. Specifically to CCTVs, DDoS attacks are the most prevalent form of cyber crime and this could happen to any surveillance infrastructure irrespective of where it is sourced from, should configuration not be secure. With regard to the US, issue is not only contested from the point of view that the country manufactures its own surveillance equipment but it is a foreign policy matter in itself owing to world power dynamics. As for Kenya, the partnership with Huawei squarely lies on the interest of securing Kenyans and their property in a more advanced environment. Regards, *Eshuchi Richard* On 15 May 2017 at 08:33, BRIGHT GAMELI via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Allowing the Chinese to plug into our system is giving away the country.
Nothing is free. Cyber Espionage is just about to start with such power being given to them. We will get crippled later.
Even if we allow them to help, I will say about 4 different vetting should be done on the systems before go live.
~ze3D~
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Huawei was the subject of a US Congress Intelligence Committee probe and until today are restricted from doing business in the US due what the US says 'They are susceptible to interference by a foreign state player.
Huawei has tried and gone to great lengths to deny that the Chinese Government either owns them or exerts undue influence on them. Read the FT article below and be a judge for yourself.
https://www.ft.com/content/469bde20-9eaf-11e3-8663-00144feab7de
This reminds me of Star Times, the Chinese Broadcasting entity that now has a presence in 30 odd countries in Africa and in Zambia even took over the National Broadcaster.
*He who pays the piper calls the tune.*
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On 14 May 2017, at 11:32 PM, Brian Nyali via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Barrack,
Assuming they deploy the infrastructure and are actively providing support: 1.I honestly doubt they would give complete access to their equipment. 2.Will there be access to where the data is being stored temporarily/ permanently 3.What happens in the event the agreement/contract is terminated what happens to the data collected or stored? 4.If we do not have complete control/ access can we be sure who does? In my view it is a miss unless we have complete control of the infrastructure deployed and the data collected, i could be wrong but there are too many loopholes by being in the passenger's seat .
Kind regards, Brian M. Nyali. brian@kenic.or.ke
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: "Brian Nyali" <brian@kenic.or.ke> Cc: "otieno barrack" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 14 May, 2017 21:24:36 Subject: [kictanet] Security Boost from China - Is it a hit or a miss?
Listers,
I have been pondering over this generous offer from the Chinese Tech Group Huawei to enhance our Security Infrastructure in Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret, however with recent cases of Cyber Security how safe are we as a country with such offers?. I have heard of cases of car tracking devices being used to facilitate car jackings against unsuspecting owners, aren't we giving away too much data about ourselves assuming Huawei will be providing support for this Infrastructure?, have we thought of possible backdoors that could give away the tonnes of data collected from the Infrastructure? Before we implement the new system , it would also be good to know whether the one deployed in Nairobi worked as well.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 <0721%20325277> +254733206359 <0733%20206359> Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
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Richard I personally take exception to your statement:- 'The alarmist posts on this forum on every engagement/activity by the National Government is quite unsettling, bearing the notion that we are 'more' informed or have better access to information to make decisive conclusions.' This forum is about informing, querying and engaging. When we raise issues like this it is because we are informed. The onus is on the relevant person, corporate or Govt agency to respond and inform. Like you just did. (Not sure by the way which hat you are wearing when you responded. Maybe you can enlighten us) Also, when guys post on this list it is not to criticize or to be alarmist. It is to seek to engage, inform and learn more. Sometimes forums like this are the only avenue to engage. The Government definitely needs to do a better job in engaging. Some agencies like the CA is getting pretty good at it. Even though we may not agree with them and may still hold contrarian views that engagement helps to understand how they operate and how they execute on their mandate. It is an example worth emulating especially considering the new constitution gives the citizenry the right to information. Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 15 May 2017, at 2:01 PM, Eshuchi Richard via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good afternoon,
The alarmist posts on this forum on every engagement/activity by the National Government is quite unsettling, bearing the notion that we are 'more' informed or have better access to information to make decisive conclusions.
It is important to understand that Huawei is providing telecommunication equipment in the form of new hardware and of course, in-built technology to run it. In broader terms, an integrated CCTV surveillance system that includes video cameras, digital radios connected to a central command conferencing system to enhance security and improve the National Police Service's operational capacity.
This essentially means that the equipment is for receiving and recording criminal activity and not a data holding cell for public records. Access to videos and images captured is real time at the command centers which are now to be expanded to other major cities within the country.
There is no system that is being plugged into, this is not an upgrade of existing infrastructure, the country is purely creating a new, state of the art digital based surveillance system. Cases in court will no longer be inadmissible based on 'witness account of events' and criminals will no longer be confident hiding under such misgivings of the law.
Huawei has been sought as the equipment provider based on the quality and latency of image/video that their hardware provides, which is also cost effective. Cyber crime remains a potential threat to everything connected to a network. Specifically to CCTVs, DDoS attacks are the most prevalent form of cyber crime and this could happen to any surveillance infrastructure irrespective of where it is sourced from, should configuration not be secure.
With regard to the US, issue is not only contested from the point of view that the country manufactures its own surveillance equipment but it is a foreign policy matter in itself owing to world power dynamics. As for Kenya, the partnership with Huawei squarely lies on the interest of securing Kenyans and their property in a more advanced environment.
Regards, Eshuchi Richard
On 15 May 2017 at 08:33, BRIGHT GAMELI via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Allowing the Chinese to plug into our system is giving away the country.
Nothing is free. Cyber Espionage is just about to start with such power being given to them. We will get crippled later.
Even if we allow them to help, I will say about 4 different vetting should be done on the systems before go live.
~ze3D~
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers
Huawei was the subject of a US Congress Intelligence Committee probe and until today are restricted from doing business in the US due what the US says 'They are susceptible to interference by a foreign state player.
Huawei has tried and gone to great lengths to deny that the Chinese Government either owns them or exerts undue influence on them. Read the FT article below and be a judge for yourself.
https://www.ft.com/content/469bde20-9eaf-11e3-8663-00144feab7de
This reminds me of Star Times, the Chinese Broadcasting entity that now has a presence in 30 odd countries in Africa and in Zambia even took over the National Broadcaster.
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
On 14 May 2017, at 11:32 PM, Brian Nyali via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Barrack,
Assuming they deploy the infrastructure and are actively providing support: 1.I honestly doubt they would give complete access to their equipment. 2.Will there be access to where the data is being stored temporarily/ permanently 3.What happens in the event the agreement/contract is terminated what happens to the data collected or stored? 4.If we do not have complete control/ access can we be sure who does? In my view it is a miss unless we have complete control of the infrastructure deployed and the data collected, i could be wrong but there are too many loopholes by being in the passenger's seat .
Kind regards, Brian M. Nyali. brian@kenic.or.ke
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: "Brian Nyali" <brian@kenic.or.ke> Cc: "otieno barrack" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 14 May, 2017 21:24:36 Subject: [kictanet] Security Boost from China - Is it a hit or a miss?
Listers,
I have been pondering over this generous offer from the Chinese Tech Group Huawei to enhance our Security Infrastructure in Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret, however with recent cases of Cyber Security how safe are we as a country with such offers?. I have heard of cases of car tracking devices being used to facilitate car jackings against unsuspecting owners, aren't we giving away too much data about ourselves assuming Huawei will be providing support for this Infrastructure?, have we thought of possible backdoors that could give away the tonnes of data collected from the Infrastructure? Before we implement the new system , it would also be good to know whether the one deployed in Nairobi worked as well.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
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Allowing the Chinese to plug into our system is giving away the country.
Nothing is free. Cyber Espionage is just about to start with such power being given to them. We will get crippled later.
Even if we allow them to help, I will say about 4 different vetting should be done on the systems before go live.
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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Huawei was the subject of a US Congress Intelligence Committee probe and until today are restricted from doing business in the US due what the US says 'They are susceptible to interference by a foreign state player.
Huawei has tried and gone to great lengths to deny that the Chinese Government either owns them or exerts undue influence on them. Read the FT article below and be a judge for yourself.
https://www.ft.com/content/469bde20-9eaf-11e3-8663-00144feab7de
This reminds me of Star Times, the Chinese Broadcasting entity that now has a presence in 30 odd countries in Africa and in Zambia even took over the National Broadcaster.
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On 14 May 2017, at 11:32 PM, Brian Nyali via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Barrack,
Assuming they deploy the infrastructure and are actively providing support: 1.I honestly doubt they would give complete access to their equipment. 2.Will there be access to where the data is being stored temporarily/ permanently 3.What happens in the event the agreement/contract is terminated what happens to the data collected or stored? 4.If we do not have complete control/ access can we be sure who does? In my view it is a miss unless we have complete control of the infrastructure deployed and the data collected, i could be wrong but there are too many loopholes by being in the passenger's seat .
Kind regards, Brian M. Nyali. brian@kenic.or.ke
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: "Brian Nyali" <brian@kenic.or.ke> Cc: "otieno barrack" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 14 May, 2017 21:24:36 Subject: [kictanet] Security Boost from China - Is it a hit or a miss?
Listers,
I have been pondering over this generous offer from the Chinese Tech Group Huawei to enhance our Security Infrastructure in Nakuru, Kisumu and Eldoret, however with recent cases of Cyber Security how safe are we as a country with such offers?. I have heard of cases of car tracking devices being used to facilitate car jackings against unsuspecting owners, aren't we giving away too much data about ourselves assuming Huawei will be providing support for this Infrastructure?, have we thought of possible backdoors that could give away the tonnes of data collected from the Infrastructure? Before we implement the new system , it would also be good to know whether the one deployed in Nairobi worked as well.
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Admin CampusCiti -
Ali Hussein -
Barrack Otieno -
Brian Nyali -
BRIGHT GAMELI -
Eshuchi Richard -
Mutemi wa Kiama