Re: [kictanet] Just a thought
We haven't rejected technology, but, technology is not the solution to our problems. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 11:54, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Are the Michuki policies still not in place? Something is clearly not working, and solutions are needed.. I see technology as one solution not 'the solution' and I doubt anyone suggested that. It is quite clear that 'the solution' will take multiple approaches, so why reject technology when it clearly works irrespective of who originated the idea, which by the way does a de-service to the good Daktari since this forum is exactly the space for advancing technological solutions.
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On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Michuki Rules is a good example of what you need to do. Good policy and subsequent execution.
The really important parts were No overloading/standing, Seat Belts, Regular Checks, Speed Governors and more importantly citizens resolve to push through and walk if need be.
We, as a nation then, had believed.
The problem I see with our current approach is where every problem has to be nailed in with our 'Digital Hammer' as its possibly the only tool we have.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 10:29, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Ohaga, Michuki rules reduced PSV accidents by 80%. We all know what happened to the rules after the demise of Michuki. A bus can overtake you while you are travelling at 100KPH
A lot of these responses seem like a cheer match for Dactari. That's not how people are supposed to engage in a productive argument, that the merits n demerits of a point are not truthfully explored just because the originator is held in high esteem. Technology alone is not the solution, why do we have more deaths from accidents on our roads than even before
speed governors were made a prerequisite for PSVs to get their
On 05/01/2014, Ohaga JB <durojb@gmail.com> wrote: the licenses??
Dactari's idea is good, but it does have a lot of demerits as well, swallowing it wholesome like has mostly been proposed here is a recipe
for
a technological tyranny...
JB... On 04 Jan 2014 7:43 PM, "Tony Likhanga" <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Dashboard-mounted Video Cameras (dash cams) are very popular in Russia for the same reasons that motivated Bw. Daktari to install one in his vehicle : http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/
As a champion of local innovation/customisation, the good doc will be pleased to hear that some enterprising young lads recently showcased a similar local solution on a national TV station :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8<; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8>
Tony.
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Technology is an enabler and as a tool cannot be left behind. You and I will never agree on this one so I respectfully agree to disagree. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
We haven't rejected technology, but, technology is not the solution to our problems.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 5 Jan 2014 11:54, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Are the Michuki policies still not in place? Something is clearly not working, and solutions are needed.. I see technology as one solution not 'the solution' and I doubt anyone suggested that. It is quite clear that 'the solution' will take multiple approaches, so why reject technology when it clearly works irrespective of who originated the idea, which by the way does a de-service to the good Daktari since this forum is exactly the space for advancing technological solutions.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Michuki Rules is a good example of what you need to do. Good policy and subsequent execution.
The really important parts were No overloading/standing, Seat Belts, Regular Checks, Speed Governors and more importantly citizens resolve to push through and walk if need be.
We, as a nation then, had believed.
The problem I see with our current approach is where every problem has to be nailed in with our 'Digital Hammer' as its possibly the only tool we have.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 5 Jan 2014 10:29, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Ohaga, Michuki rules reduced PSV accidents by 80%. We all know what happened to the rules after the demise of Michuki. A bus can overtake you while you are travelling at 100KPH
On 05/01/2014, Ohaga JB <durojb@gmail.com> wrote:
A lot of these responses seem like a cheer match for Dactari. That's not how people are supposed to engage in a productive argument, that the merits n demerits of a point are not truthfully explored just because the originator is held in high esteem. Technology alone is not the solution, why do we have more deaths from accidents on our roads than even before the speed governors were made a prerequisite for PSVs to get their licenses??
Dactari's idea is good, but it does have a lot of demerits as well, swallowing it wholesome like has mostly been proposed here is a recipe for a technological tyranny...
JB... On 04 Jan 2014 7:43 PM, "Tony Likhanga" <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Dashboard-mounted Video Cameras (dash cams) are very popular in Russia for the same reasons that motivated Bw. Daktari to install one in his vehicle : http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/
As a champion of local innovation/customisation, the good doc will be pleased to hear that some enterprising young lads recently showcased a similar local solution on a national TV station :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8>
Tony.
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I agree with Ngigi on this. Tech is good but it's not the answer to everything.. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Lkimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Technology is an enabler and as a tool cannot be left behind. You and I will never agree on this one so I respectfully agree to disagree.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
We haven't rejected technology, but, technology is not the solution to our problems.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 5 Jan 2014 11:54, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote: Are the Michuki policies still not in place? Something is clearly not working, and solutions are needed.. I see technology as one solution not 'the solution' and I doubt anyone suggested that. It is quite clear that 'the solution' will take multiple approaches, so why reject technology when it clearly works irrespective of who originated the idea, which by the way does a de-service to the good Daktari since this forum is exactly the space for advancing technological solutions.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Michuki Rules is a good example of what you need to do. Good policy and subsequent execution.
The really important parts were No overloading/standing, Seat Belts, Regular Checks, Speed Governors and more importantly citizens resolve to push through and walk if need be.
We, as a nation then, had believed.
The problem I see with our current approach is where every problem has to be nailed in with our 'Digital Hammer' as its possibly the only tool we have.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 5 Jan 2014 10:29, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote: Ohaga, Michuki rules reduced PSV accidents by 80%. We all know what happened to the rules after the demise of Michuki. A bus can overtake you while you are travelling at 100KPH
On 05/01/2014, Ohaga JB <durojb@gmail.com> wrote:
A lot of these responses seem like a cheer match for Dactari. That's not how people are supposed to engage in a productive argument, that the merits n demerits of a point are not truthfully explored just because the originator is held in high esteem. Technology alone is not the solution, why do we have more deaths from accidents on our roads than even before the speed governors were made a prerequisite for PSVs to get their licenses??
Dactari's idea is good, but it does have a lot of demerits as well, swallowing it wholesome like has mostly been proposed here is a recipe for a technological tyranny...
JB... On 04 Jan 2014 7:43 PM, "Tony Likhanga" <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dashboard-mounted Video Cameras (dash cams) are very popular in Russia > for > the same reasons that motivated Bw. Daktari to install one in his vehicle > : > http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/ > > As a champion of local innovation/customisation, the good doc will be > pleased to hear that some enterprising young lads recently showcased a > similar local solution on a national TV station : > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8> > > Tony. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/durojb%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >
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JB, Technology will assist in enforcing the law, i witnessed 4 accidents while driving to the coast last week that occured out of sheer ignorance and recklessness. Unfortunately majority were perpetuated by public service vehicles, there is blatant disregard for the law and disrespect of other road users as is the case in Dr. Ndemos analogy, i like what Citizen TV has been doing showing the traffic offenders on tv, beyond naming and shaming we need to act on those cases. Best Regards On Jan 5, 2014 12:53 PM, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Technology is an enabler and as a tool cannot be left behind. You and I will never agree on this one so I respectfully agree to disagree.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
We haven't rejected technology, but, technology is not the solution to our problems.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 11:54, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Are the Michuki policies still not in place? Something is clearly not working, and solutions are needed.. I see technology as one solution not 'the solution' and I doubt anyone suggested that. It is quite clear that 'the solution' will take multiple approaches, so why reject technology when it clearly works irrespective of who originated the idea, which by the way does a de-service to the good Daktari since this forum is exactly the space for advancing technological solutions.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Michuki Rules is a good example of what you need to do. Good policy and subsequent execution.
The really important parts were No overloading/standing, Seat Belts, Regular Checks, Speed Governors and more importantly citizens resolve to push through and walk if need be.
We, as a nation then, had believed.
The problem I see with our current approach is where every problem has to be nailed in with our 'Digital Hammer' as its possibly the only tool we have.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 10:29, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Ohaga, Michuki rules reduced PSV accidents by 80%. We all know what happened to the rules after the demise of Michuki. A bus can overtake you while you are travelling at 100KPH
A lot of these responses seem like a cheer match for Dactari. That's not how people are supposed to engage in a productive argument, that the merits n demerits of a point are not truthfully explored just because the originator is held in high esteem. Technology alone is not the solution, why do we have more deaths from accidents on our roads than even before the speed governors were made a prerequisite for PSVs to get their
On 05/01/2014, Ohaga JB <durojb@gmail.com> wrote: licenses??
Dactari's idea is good, but it does have a lot of demerits as well, swallowing it wholesome like has mostly been proposed here is a
a technological tyranny...
JB... On 04 Jan 2014 7:43 PM, "Tony Likhanga" <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Dashboard-mounted Video Cameras (dash cams) are very popular in Russia for the same reasons that motivated Bw. Daktari to install one in his vehicle : http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/
As a champion of local innovation/customisation, the good doc will be pleased to hear that some enterprising young lads recently showcased a similar local solution on a national TV station :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8<; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8>
Tony.
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I also think technology goes a long way to regulating our behavior as drivers. Having Dashcams on all PSVs would show what happened during accidents instead of the regular staple of bystanders saying it was speeding(Not that I deny that this is what causes accidents but there is a multiplicity of variables which are best captured by a dashcam.) The embarrassment from a video of you overlapping or being an idiot on the road uploaded on YouTube will make you think twice of using your mothers or company's car to misbehave. Court proceedings and insurance claims will be far easier too. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
JB,
Technology will assist in enforcing the law, i witnessed 4 accidents while driving to the coast last week that occured out of sheer ignorance and recklessness. Unfortunately majority were perpetuated by public service vehicles, there is blatant disregard for the law and disrespect of other road users as is the case in Dr. Ndemos analogy, i like what Citizen TV has been doing showing the traffic offenders on tv, beyond naming and shaming we need to act on those cases.
Best Regards On Jan 5, 2014 12:53 PM, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Technology is an enabler and as a tool cannot be left behind. You and I will never agree on this one so I respectfully agree to disagree.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
We haven't rejected technology, but, technology is not the solution to our problems.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 11:54, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Are the Michuki policies still not in place? Something is clearly not working, and solutions are needed.. I see technology as one solution not 'the solution' and I doubt anyone suggested that. It is quite clear that 'the solution' will take multiple approaches, so why reject technology when it clearly works irrespective of who originated the idea, which by the way does a de-service to the good Daktari since this forum is exactly the space for advancing technological solutions.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Michuki Rules is a good example of what you need to do. Good policy and subsequent execution.
The really important parts were No overloading/standing, Seat Belts, Regular Checks, Speed Governors and more importantly citizens resolve to push through and walk if need be.
We, as a nation then, had believed.
The problem I see with our current approach is where every problem has to be nailed in with our 'Digital Hammer' as its possibly the only tool we have.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 10:29, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Ohaga, Michuki rules reduced PSV accidents by 80%. We all know what happened to the rules after the demise of Michuki. A bus can overtake you while you are travelling at 100KPH
A lot of these responses seem like a cheer match for Dactari. That's not how people are supposed to engage in a productive argument, that the merits n demerits of a point are not truthfully explored just because the originator is held in high esteem. Technology alone is not the solution, why do we have more deaths from accidents on our roads than even before the speed governors were made a prerequisite for PSVs to get their
On 05/01/2014, Ohaga JB <durojb@gmail.com> wrote: licenses??
Dactari's idea is good, but it does have a lot of demerits as well, swallowing it wholesome like has mostly been proposed here is a
a technological tyranny...
JB... On 04 Jan 2014 7:43 PM, "Tony Likhanga" <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Dashboard-mounted Video Cameras (dash cams) are very popular in Russia for the same reasons that motivated Bw. Daktari to install one in his vehicle : http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/
As a champion of local innovation/customisation, the good doc will be pleased to hear that some enterprising young lads recently showcased a similar local solution on a national TV station :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8<; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8>
Tony.
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I doubt if a camera mounted on one of the vehicles will be able to authenticate which vehicle was stationary and which one was moving. Basic theory of relativity requires that the camera should be mounted outside the two vehicles to establish the offending vehicle. The poor lady could have stuck to her guns and given daktari a hard time. On the positive side, the use of appropriately mounted digital cameras is indeed very helpful. Have a digital new year. James On Sunday, 5 January 2014, 21:22, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: I also think technology goes a long way to regulating our behavior as drivers. Having Dashcams on all PSVs would show what happened during accidents instead of the regular staple of bystanders saying it was speeding(Not that I deny that this is what causes accidents but there is a multiplicity of variables which are best captured by a dashcam.) The embarrassment from a video of you overlapping or being an idiot on the road uploaded on YouTube will make you think twice of using your mothers or company's car to misbehave. Court proceedings and insurance claims will be far easier too. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: JB,
Technology will assist in enforcing the law, i witnessed 4 accidents while driving to the coast last week that occured out of sheer ignorance and recklessness. Unfortunately majority were perpetuated by public service vehicles, there is blatant disregard for the law and disrespect of other road users as is the case in Dr. Ndemos analogy, i like what Citizen TV has been doing showing the traffic offenders on tv, beyond naming and shaming we need to act on those cases. Best Regards On Jan 5, 2014 12:53 PM, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Technology is an enabler and as a tool cannot be left behind. You and I will never agree on this one so I respectfully agree to disagree.
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On Jan 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
We haven't rejected technology, but, technology is not the solution to our problems.
Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 11:54, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Are the Michuki policies still not in place? Something is clearly not working, and solutions are needed.. I see technology as one solution not 'the solution' and I doubt anyone suggested that. It is quite clear that 'the solution' will take multiple approaches, so why reject technology when it clearly works irrespective of who originated the idea, which by the way does a de-service to the good Daktari since this forum is exactly the space for advancing technological solutions.
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On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Michuki Rules is a good example of what you need to do. Good policy and subsequent execution.
The really important parts were No overloading/standing, Seat Belts, Regular Checks, Speed Governors and more importantly citizens resolve to push through and walk if need be. We, as a nation then, had believed. The problem I see with our current approach is where every problem has to be nailed in with our 'Digital Hammer' as its possibly the only tool we have. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 10:29, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Ohaga, Michuki rules reduced PSV accidents by 80%. We all know what
happened to the rules after the demise of Michuki. A bus can overtake you while you are travelling at 100KPH
On 05/01/2014, Ohaga JB <durojb@gmail.com> wrote: > A lot of these responses seem like a cheer match for Dactari. That's not > how people are supposed to engage in a productive argument, that the merits > n demerits of a point are not truthfully explored just because the > originator is held in high esteem. Technology alone is not the solution, > why do we have more deaths from accidents on our roads than even before the > speed governors were made a prerequisite for PSVs to get their licenses?? > > Dactari's idea is good, but it does have a lot of demerits as well, > swallowing it wholesome like has mostly been proposed here is a recipe for > a technological tyranny... > > JB... > On 04 Jan 2014 7:43 PM, "Tony Likhanga" <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dashboard-mounted Video Cameras (dash cams) are very popular in Russia >> for >> the same reasons that motivated Bw. Daktari to install one in his vehicle >> : >> http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/ >> >> As a champion of local innovation/customisation, the good doc will be >> pleased to hear that some enterprising young lads recently showcased a >> similar local solution on a national TV station : >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8> >> >> Tony. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/durojb%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >
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I think relative to other stationary objects in the field of view relative movement can be ascertained. Its rather difficult to give anyone a hard time if video evidence exists. the reason we have long drawn out negotiations by the roadside is because no-one wants to take the blame. There is an insurance firm that tells its clients to call them first before calling the police and to never accept liability. Such tech would invalidate such hysterics. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:40 AM, James Kulubi <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I doubt if a camera mounted on one of the vehicles will be able to authenticate which vehicle was stationary and which one was moving. Basic theory of relativity requires that the camera should be mounted outside the two vehicles to establish the offending vehicle. The poor lady could have stuck to her guns and given daktari a hard time. On the positive side, the use of appropriately mounted digital cameras is indeed very helpful. Have a digital new year. James
On Sunday, 5 January 2014, 21:22, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: I also think technology goes a long way to regulating our behavior as drivers. Having Dashcams on all PSVs would show what happened during accidents instead of the regular staple of bystanders saying it was speeding(Not that I deny that this is what causes accidents but there is a multiplicity of variables which are best captured by a dashcam.)
The embarrassment from a video of you overlapping or being an idiot on the road uploaded on YouTube will make you think twice of using your mothers or company's car to misbehave.
Court proceedings and insurance claims will be far easier too.
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
JB, Technology will assist in enforcing the law, i witnessed 4 accidents while driving to the coast last week that occured out of sheer ignorance and recklessness. Unfortunately majority were perpetuated by public service vehicles, there is blatant disregard for the law and disrespect of other road users as is the case in Dr. Ndemos analogy, i like what Citizen TV has been doing showing the traffic offenders on tv, beyond naming and shaming we need to act on those cases. Best Regards On Jan 5, 2014 12:53 PM, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Technology is an enabler and as a tool cannot be left behind. You and I will never agree on this one so I respectfully agree to disagree.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
We haven't rejected technology, but, technology is not the solution to our problems. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io <http://www.a1.io/> On 5 Jan 2014 11:54, "Lkimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Are the Michuki policies still not in place? Something is clearly not working, and solutions are needed.. I see technology as one solution not 'the solution' and I doubt anyone suggested that. It is quite clear that 'the solution' will take multiple approaches, so why reject technology when it clearly works irrespective of who originated the idea, which by the way does a de-service to the good Daktari since this forum is exactly the space for advancing technological solutions.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Michuki Rules is a good example of what you need to do. Good policy and subsequent execution. The really important parts were No overloading/standing, Seat Belts, Regular Checks, Speed Governors and more importantly citizens resolve to push through and walk if need be. We, as a nation then, had believed. The problem I see with our current approach is where every problem has to be nailed in with our 'Digital Hammer' as its possibly the only tool we have. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io <http://www.a1.io/> On 5 Jan 2014 10:29, "Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Ohaga, Michuki rules reduced PSV accidents by 80%. We all know what happened to the rules after the demise of Michuki. A bus can overtake you while you are travelling at 100KPH
A lot of these responses seem like a cheer match for Dactari. That's not how people are supposed to engage in a productive argument, that the merits n demerits of a point are not truthfully explored just because the originator is held in high esteem. Technology alone is not the solution, why do we have more deaths from accidents on our roads than even before
On 05/01/2014, Ohaga JB <durojb@gmail.com> wrote: the
speed governors were made a prerequisite for PSVs to get their licenses??
Dactari's idea is good, but it does have a lot of demerits as well, swallowing it wholesome like has mostly been proposed here is a recipe for a technological tyranny...
JB... On 04 Jan 2014 7:43 PM, "Tony Likhanga" <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Dashboard-mounted Video Cameras (dash cams) are very popular in Russia for the same reasons that motivated Bw. Daktari to install one in his vehicle : http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/
As a champion of local innovation/customisation, the good doc will be pleased to hear that some enterprising young lads recently showcased a similar local solution on a national TV station :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8<; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCuQNgENQ8>
Tony.
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