Re: [kictanet] E-Centre in Eastlands-Kimathi Estate
True that Ritah, we partnering with local organized youth groups in Easlands to train them and give them a chance to learn how to run such a centre. Jericho Estate popularly know to as "JERII" watch out for an e-learning centre soon. Hope Ya'all shall find time to come. Best Regards, Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 || ----- Original Message ---- From: munyiva ritah <rmunyiva@yahoo.com> To: ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:20:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] E-Centre in Eastlands-Kimathi Estate Cool idea on the E-centre, maybe we could get more of this in Eastlands. Ritah --- Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> wrote:
This is soo cool...Jose,
I need to link up with you of the list...please....
Kind Regards,
On 2/21/07, Jose' <ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com> wrote:
Checkout,
www.kimathiinformationcentre.com
some of the pages are still under construction
guest book pages.Oh! also the donation page :-)
We reach out to the Easltands community with free ICT lessons also we are a one stop E-centre.
We are in the process of organizing a youth symposium that will focus on preparing youth in creating business
apply for loans and in particular the Youth loan.
All keep y'all posted
Best Regards, Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 ||
----- Original Message ---- From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:45:48 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Sasanet not working?
well, am not a subscriber to them - i got jittery when their registration form had too many of what I
personal questions without equivalent demonstration of how they would secure my data...
Nway, I just checked their website and it is up and running...so what do you mean when you say they are no longer working?
walu.
--- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wouldn't you be curious to find out a very
internet-based www.sasanet.co.ke is now no longer working? I wonder why?
/Alex
Mike Theuri <mike.theuri@gmail.com> wrote: Alex,
Thank you for sharing the blog on the anti-consumer setting in the country. The blog has very useful information that is not being shared with Kenyan consumers and it is key that consumer rights are upheld. Your blog out to be brought to more attention of key stakeholders in ICT and to consumers alike.
Yes, the Ministry and CCK are best placed to authoritatively comment on such an issue. However I believe that what AT&T is discontinuing is the ability to use a "call back" number from Kenya to the US. It is very likely that the call back numbers which are 0800 numbers are no longer profitable for AT&T especially given that they cost as high as $3/min. Technically they are supposed to be cheaper to use than if one was to "call back" the US direct from any other country be it Kenya or the UK. However with AT&T's rate to call the US from Kenya as high as it is and with local providers beating their tariffs they may have opted to drop this service. What this might do, is it might leave AT&T US
customers unable to call the US using their AT&T calling cards for what would otherwise be exorbitant
The wording of the AT&T notice on the lack of no
future
support for calls originating from Kenya wasn't very clear and after some digging around it appears
referred to users of AT&T who utilize call back services while traveling overseas, it might just be due to stiff competition now that VOIP has been deregulated and tariffs have fallen (though not low enough) and
one in their right mind would be willing to pay $3+ per minute for a call to the US when for a extremely small fraction one could make the same phone call at a lower rate.
Even then the tariffs in general are not fair enough for Kenyan consumers and it is an uphill battle to enforce changes when some of the largest tax payers happen to be communication providers. It is unthinkable that
government would do much to jeopardize a large and steady tax revenue stream to save the honorable consumer. Increasingly huge profits in a formerly depressed and now recovering economy like ours raise the question whether the consumer is getting a fair deal. It is akin to oil companies making several times over some nations GDP in profits and claiming that they are struggling
and offering the best prices possible. Price regulation in the industry is something that should be looked into to further to try and strike a fair balance between consumers needs and investors return on equity.
Mike
On 2/18/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote: Mike:
Although this is a consumer issue, you may notice we have quite some domestic wars with the prevailing anti-consumer setting, http://ictconsumer.blogspot.com/ for example.
By engaging foreign networks, I am afraid the ICT Consumers Association of Kenya could be considered acting ultra vires thus the Ministry of Information and Communications, CCK, and perhaps also Foreign Affairs are best suited to comment.
Would a provocative question, like "why has a
telco unilaterally cut-off communication from Kenya to the US jeopardizing both a basic human right and
national outsourcing strategy" earn a quick response from government?
rgds,
Alex
Mike Theuri <mike.theuri@gmail.com> wrote: As an after thought, this may mean calls dialed through
like the forum,chat and proposals,business plans and how to thought were popular free based prices. that it that no the themselves private US the this number
which by itself is a very expensive option and which may reflect the effects of voip and lowered costs of international calls:
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Tell me jose' as in more about the centre. Am a journalist, are you one? Can give some mileage on the project in some magazine-Business Post. Is it a business venture for youth...in eastlands what exactly is it? --- Jose' <ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com> wrote:
True that Ritah, we partnering with local organized youth groups in Easlands to train them and give them a chance to learn how to run such a centre.
Jericho Estate popularly know to as "JERII" watch out for an e-learning centre soon.
Hope Ya'all shall find time to come.
Best Regards, Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 ||
----- Original Message ---- From: munyiva ritah <rmunyiva@yahoo.com> To: ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:20:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] E-Centre in Eastlands-Kimathi Estate
Cool idea on the E-centre, maybe we could get more of this in Eastlands. Ritah --- Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> wrote:
This is soo cool...Jose,
I need to link up with you of the list...please....
Kind Regards,
On 2/21/07, Jose' <ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com> wrote:
Checkout,
www.kimathiinformationcentre.com
some of the pages are still under construction
guest book pages.Oh! also the donation page :-)
We reach out to the Easltands community with free ICT lessons also we are a one stop E-centre.
We are in the process of organizing a youth symposium that will focus on preparing youth in creating business
apply for loans and in particular the Youth loan.
All keep y'all posted
Best Regards, Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 ||
----- Original Message ---- From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:45:48 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Sasanet not working?
well, am not a subscriber to them - i got jittery when their registration form had too many of what I
personal questions without equivalent demonstration of how they would secure my data...
Nway, I just checked their website and it is up and running...so what do you mean when you say they are no longer working?
walu.
--- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wouldn't you be curious to find out a very
internet-based www.sasanet.co.ke is now no longer working? I wonder why?
/Alex
Mike Theuri <mike.theuri@gmail.com> wrote: Alex,
Thank you for sharing the blog on the anti-consumer setting in the country. The blog has very useful information that is not being shared with Kenyan consumers and it is key that consumer rights are upheld. Your blog out to be brought to more attention of key stakeholders in ICT and to consumers alike.
Yes, the Ministry and CCK are best placed to authoritatively comment on such an issue. However I believe that what AT&T is discontinuing is the ability to use a "call back" number from Kenya to the US. It is very likely that the call back numbers which are 0800 numbers are no longer profitable for AT&T especially given that they cost as high as $3/min. Technically they are supposed to be cheaper to use than if one was to "call back" the US direct from any other country be it Kenya or the UK. However with AT&T's rate to call the US from Kenya as high as it is and with local
their tariffs they may have opted to drop this service. What this might do, is it might leave AT&T US
customers unable to call the US using their AT&T calling cards for what would otherwise be exorbitant
The wording of the AT&T notice on the lack of
no future
support for calls originating from Kenya wasn't very clear and after some digging around it appears
referred to users of AT&T who utilize call back services while traveling overseas, it might just be due to stiff competition now that VOIP has been deregulated and tariffs have fallen (though not low enough) and
one in their right mind would be willing to
minute for a call to the US when for a extremely small fraction one could make the same phone call at a lower rate.
Even then the tariffs in general are not fair enough for Kenyan consumers and it is an uphill battle to enforce changes when some of the largest tax payers happen to be communication providers. It is unthinkable
government would do much to jeopardize a large and steady tax revenue stream to save the honorable consumer. Increasingly huge profits in a formerly depressed and now recovering economy like ours raise the question whether the consumer is getting a fair deal. It is akin to oil companies making several times over some nations GDP in profits and claiming that they are struggling
like the forum,chat and proposals,business plans and how to thought were popular free providers beating based prices. that it that no pay $3+ per that the themselves
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Tell me jose' as in more about the centre. Am a journalist, are you one? Can give some mileage on the project in some magazine-Business Post. Is it a business venture for youth...in eastlands what exactly is it? --- Jose' <ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com> wrote:
True that Ritah, we partnering with local organized youth groups in Easlands to train them and give them a chance to learn how to run such a centre.
Jericho Estate popularly know to as "JERII" watch out for an e-learning centre soon.
Hope Ya'all shall find time to come.
Best Regards, Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 ||
----- Original Message ---- From: munyiva ritah <rmunyiva@yahoo.com> To: ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:20:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] E-Centre in Eastlands-Kimathi Estate
Cool idea on the E-centre, maybe we could get more of this in Eastlands. Ritah --- Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> wrote:
This is soo cool...Jose,
I need to link up with you of the list...please....
Kind Regards,
On 2/21/07, Jose' <ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com> wrote:
Checkout,
www.kimathiinformationcentre.com
some of the pages are still under construction
guest book pages.Oh! also the donation page :-)
We reach out to the Easltands community with free ICT lessons also we are a one stop E-centre.
We are in the process of organizing a youth symposium that will focus on preparing youth in creating business
apply for loans and in particular the Youth loan.
All keep y'all posted
Best Regards, Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 ||
----- Original Message ---- From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: ngunjirijnr@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:45:48 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Sasanet not working?
well, am not a subscriber to them - i got jittery when their registration form had too many of what I
personal questions without equivalent demonstration of how they would secure my data...
Nway, I just checked their website and it is up and running...so what do you mean when you say they are no longer working?
walu.
--- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wouldn't you be curious to find out a very
internet-based www.sasanet.co.ke is now no longer working? I wonder why?
/Alex
Mike Theuri <mike.theuri@gmail.com> wrote: Alex,
Thank you for sharing the blog on the anti-consumer setting in the country. The blog has very useful information that is not being shared with Kenyan consumers and it is key that consumer rights are upheld. Your blog out to be brought to more attention of key stakeholders in ICT and to consumers alike.
Yes, the Ministry and CCK are best placed to authoritatively comment on such an issue. However I believe that what AT&T is discontinuing is the ability to use a "call back" number from Kenya to the US. It is very likely that the call back numbers which are 0800 numbers are no longer profitable for AT&T especially given that they cost as high as $3/min. Technically they are supposed to be cheaper to use than if one was to "call back" the US direct from any other country be it Kenya or the UK. However with AT&T's rate to call the US from Kenya as high as it is and with local
their tariffs they may have opted to drop this service. What this might do, is it might leave AT&T US
customers unable to call the US using their AT&T calling cards for what would otherwise be exorbitant
The wording of the AT&T notice on the lack of
no future
support for calls originating from Kenya wasn't very clear and after some digging around it appears
referred to users of AT&T who utilize call back services while traveling overseas, it might just be due to stiff competition now that VOIP has been deregulated and tariffs have fallen (though not low enough) and
one in their right mind would be willing to
minute for a call to the US when for a extremely small fraction one could make the same phone call at a lower rate.
Even then the tariffs in general are not fair enough for Kenyan consumers and it is an uphill battle to enforce changes when some of the largest tax payers happen to be communication providers. It is unthinkable
government would do much to jeopardize a large and steady tax revenue stream to save the honorable consumer. Increasingly huge profits in a formerly depressed and now recovering economy like ours raise the question whether the consumer is getting a fair deal. It is akin to oil companies making several times over some nations GDP in profits and claiming that they are struggling
like the forum,chat and proposals,business plans and how to thought were popular free providers beating based prices. that it that no pay $3+ per that the themselves
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