Fwd: [Internet Policy] Blogpost: A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World
Listers, Might be of interest to some of you. Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Internet Policy] Blogpost: A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World To: Internet Policy External <internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org> <https://gurstein.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/a4ai-who-could-oppose-a-more-affo rdable-internet-the-alliance-for-an-affordable-internet-a4ai-and-the-neo-lib eral-stealth-campaign-to-control-the-internet-throughout-the-developing-worl d-and-make/> A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World and Make Big Bucks for the Private Sector While Doing So Given the apparent intense interest on this list in the A4AI this blogpost which looks to identify some of the underlying realities of the Initiative might be of interest to some. M -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno
Barrack,I must thank you very much for drawing attention to Mike Gursten's comments.For me the most telling clause is the following: 'The A4AI “Best Practices” are a clear attempt to superimpose aneo-liberal market fundamentalism on what would otherwise be a well-meaningattempt to reduce the cost of Internet access for the next billions of users.' The subject of "neo-liberal market fundamentalism" is at this time globally 'politically incorrect' despite increasing evidence of its massive failures in a very large number of cases.I would therefore urge listers to take an interest in the comments and discuss them. I would also recommend further reading on the subject in the book 'Market Failure and the Delusions of Privatisation' by Warwick Funnel,Robert Jupe and Jane Andrew.,Pluto Press. John Kariuki From: Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016, 17:13 Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Internet Policy] Blogpost: A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World Listers, Might be of interest to some of you. Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Internet Policy] Blogpost: A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World To: Internet Policy External <internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org> <https://gurstein.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/a4ai-who-could-oppose-a-more-affo rdable-internet-the-alliance-for-an-affordable-internet-a4ai-and-the-neo-lib eral-stealth-campaign-to-control-the-internet-throughout-the-developing-worl d-and-make/> A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World and Make Big Bucks for the Private Sector While Doing So Given the apparent intense interest on this list in the A4AI this blogpost which looks to identify some of the underlying realities of the Initiative might be of interest to some. M -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40y... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Listers, On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:22 PM, John Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Barrack, I must thank you very much for drawing attention to Mike Gursten's comments.For me the most telling clause is the following:
'The A4AI “Best Practices” are a clear attempt to superimpose a neo-liberal market fundamentalism on what would otherwise be a well-meaning attempt to reduce the cost of Internet access for the next billions of users.'
Michael Gurstein is being disingenous, don't fall for his trolling. He has a hidden agenda that has to do with a long and boring history of the Civil society Internet governance Caucus/Best Bits and JustNet Coalition. Suffice it to say that it is a smear campaign that is unfortunately MGs style. Ask yourself where KE would be without the market forces that brought about Safcom and all the other players in fixed and mobile Internet access industries. We would be in the dark ages, a la Addis Ababa. Regards, McTim
The subject of "neo-liberal market fundamentalism" is at this time globally 'politically incorrect' despite increasing evidence of its massive failures in a very large number of cases.I would therefore urge listers to take an interest in the comments and discuss them.
I would also recommend further reading on the subject in the book 'Market Failure and the Delusions of Privatisation' by Warwick Funnel,Robert Jupe and Jane Andrew.,Pluto Press.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 March 2016, 17:13 *Subject:* [kictanet] Fwd: [Internet Policy] Blogpost: A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World
Listers,
Might be of interest to some of you.
Regards
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Internet Policy] Blogpost: A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World To: Internet Policy External <internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org>
< https://gurstein.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/a4ai-who-could-oppose-a-more-affo
rdable-internet-the-alliance-for-an-affordable-internet-a4ai-and-the-neo-lib
eral-stealth-campaign-to-control-the-internet-throughout-the-developing-worl d-and-make/> A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World and Make Big Bucks for the Private Sector While Doing So
Given the apparent intense interest on this list in the A4AI this blogpost which looks to identify some of the underlying realities of the Initiative might be of interest to some.
M
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McTim, Kivuva said, he is overthinking :-), seems there is some sense in the article as Engineer Kariuki postulates. Regards On Mar 23, 2016 9:24 PM, "McTim via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:22 PM, John Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Barrack, I must thank you very much for drawing attention to Mike Gursten's comments.For me the most telling clause is the following:
'The A4AI “Best Practices” are a clear attempt to superimpose a neo-liberal market fundamentalism on what would otherwise be a well-meaning attempt to reduce the cost of Internet access for the next billions of users.'
Michael Gurstein is being disingenous, don't fall for his trolling. He has a hidden agenda that has to do with a long and boring history of the Civil society Internet governance Caucus/Best Bits and JustNet Coalition.
Suffice it to say that it is a smear campaign that is unfortunately MGs style.
Ask yourself where KE would be without the market forces that brought about Safcom and all the other players in fixed and mobile Internet access industries.
We would be in the dark ages, a la Addis Ababa.
Regards,
McTim
The subject of "neo-liberal market fundamentalism" is at this time globally 'politically incorrect' despite increasing evidence of its massive failures in a very large number of cases.I would therefore urge listers to take an interest in the comments and discuss them.
I would also recommend further reading on the subject in the book 'Market Failure and the Delusions of Privatisation' by Warwick Funnel,Robert Jupe and Jane Andrew.,Pluto Press.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 March 2016, 17:13 *Subject:* [kictanet] Fwd: [Internet Policy] Blogpost: A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World
Listers,
Might be of interest to some of you.
Regards
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Internet Policy] Blogpost: A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World To: Internet Policy External <internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org>
< https://gurstein.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/a4ai-who-could-oppose-a-more-affo
rdable-internet-the-alliance-for-an-affordable-internet-a4ai-and-the-neo-lib
eral-stealth-campaign-to-control-the-internet-throughout-the-developing-worl d-and-make/> A4AI: Who Could Oppose a More Affordable Internet? The Alliance for an Affordable Internet (A4AI) and the Neo-liberal Stealth Campaign to Control the Internet Throughout the Developing World and Make Big Bucks for the Private Sector While Doing So
Given the apparent intense interest on this list in the A4AI this blogpost which looks to identify some of the underlying realities of the Initiative might be of interest to some.
M
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