Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential functioning of its economy. These were: 1. Telecommunications 2. Transportation 3. Water supply 4. Oil and gas production 5. Banking and finance 6. Electrical generation 7. Emergency services, and 8. Essential government functions A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a series of specific recommendations for their protection. What does this have to do with the issue of cut cables? At the height of the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical to achieving these goals. It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security for investments so expensively and patiently built. A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term. My two cents worth. Kind regards Eric -----Original Message----- From: kai wulff [mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke] Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 To: Eric Aligula Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. Frustrated Kai -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von jairah@kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Colleagues What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. Kind regards Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 To: <jairah@kippra.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jairah@kippra.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke
Greetings Eric, Thanks for your enlightening comments, the biggest challenge is that the kind of Information you are sharing should be availed at all levels in Society, at Chiefs Baraza's, Churches, anywhere where people congregate and can be educated since knowledge is power, looking through the eight sectors i can only say we are too ignorant, in short we must marshal resources and educate the public on the issues you have mentioned, Mulika Mwizi might help but it could be a short term measure, i was once taught that "he who knows why is always at the mercy of he who knows how", if we addressed the way we would not have situations where technicians from competing companies mess each others cables as i got it from Kai's post. Awareness is Key On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Eric Aligula <jairah@kippra.or.ke> wrote:
Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential functioning of its economy. These were:
1. Telecommunications 2. Transportation 3. Water supply 4. Oil and gas production 5. Banking and finance 6. Electrical generation 7. Emergency services, and 8. Essential government functions
A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a series of specific recommendations for their protection.
What does this have to do with the issue of cut cables? At the height of the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical to achieving these goals.
It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security for investments so expensively and patiently built.
A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term.
My two cents worth.
Kind regards
Eric
-----Original Message----- From: kai wulff [mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke>] Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 To: Eric Aligula Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues
It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor ..
Frustrated
Kai
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] Im Auftrag von jairah@kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
Colleagues
What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side.
Kind regards
Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Sorry, some correction within the text disregard the earlier post On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Greetings Eric,
Thanks for your enlightening comments, the biggest challenge is that the kind of Information you are sharing should be availed at all levels in Society, at Chiefs Baraza's, Churches, anywhere where people congregate and can be educated since knowledge is power, looking through the eight sectors i can only say we are too ignorant, in short we must marshal resources and educate the public on the issues you have mentioned, Mulika Mwizi might help but it could be a short term measure, i was once taught that "he who knows how is always at the mercy of he who knows why", if we addressed the way we would not have situations where technicians from competing companies mess each others cables as i got it from Kai's post. Awareness is Key
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Eric Aligula <jairah@kippra.or.ke> wrote:
Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential functioning of its economy. These were:
1. Telecommunications 2. Transportation 3. Water supply 4. Oil and gas production 5. Banking and finance 6. Electrical generation 7. Emergency services, and 8. Essential government functions
A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a series of specific recommendations for their protection.
What does this have to do with the issue of “cut cables”? At the height of the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical to achieving these goals.
It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security for investments so expensively and patiently built.
A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term.
My two cents worth.
Kind regards
Eric
-----Original Message----- From: kai wulff [mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke>] Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 To: Eric Aligula Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues
It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor ..
Frustrated
Kai
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] Im Auftrag von jairah@kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
Colleagues
What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side.
Kind regards
Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry®
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We share our maps with TKL, the Municipalities, the Chiefs, the MoR, MoW It takes WILLINGNESS to use the information! The procedure needs to be changed anyway. How come that another operator might still share with the OLD STATE OWNED ENTITIES but not with someone like KDN? How come we show our maps to our competitor but they dont show their maps to us? Private companies still receive a second class treatment! Kai Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Barrack Otieno Gesendet: Sunday, November 08, 2009 15:37 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Greetings Eric, Thanks for your enlightening comments, the biggest challenge is that the kind of Information you are sharing should be availed at all levels in Society, at Chiefs Baraza's, Churches, anywhere where people congregate and can be educated since knowledge is power, looking through the eight sectors i can only say we are too ignorant, in short we must marshal resources and educate the public on the issues you have mentioned, Mulika Mwizi might help but it could be a short term measure, i was once taught that "he who knows why is always at the mercy of he who knows how", if we addressed the way we would not have situations where technicians from competing companies mess each others cables as i got it from Kai's post. Awareness is Key On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Eric Aligula <jairah@kippra.or.ke> wrote: Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential functioning of its economy. These were: 1. Telecommunications 2. Transportation 3. Water supply 4. Oil and gas production 5. Banking and finance 6. Electrical generation 7. Emergency services, and 8. Essential government functions A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a series of specific recommendations for their protection. What does this have to do with the issue of cut cables? At the height of the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical to achieving these goals. It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security for investments so expensively and patiently built. A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term. My two cents worth. Kind regards Eric -----Original Message----- From: kai wulff [mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke] Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 To: Eric Aligula Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. Frustrated Kai -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von jairah@kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Colleagues What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. Kind regards Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 To: <jairah@kippra.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jairah@kippra.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: otieno.barrack@gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail. com -- Barrack O. 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Eric (not I...:-), In 2005 when we did the Open Access study for the WorldBank, your submission below was exactly one of the chapters we put in which did not come out in the final report at http://www.infodev.org/en/Publication.10.html Actually, we made the case for this to be a conditionality for WB facilities going forward, maybe thats not the way to go.... Eric here
Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential functioning of its economy. These were:
1. Telecommunications 2. Transportation 3. Water supply 4. Oil and gas production 5. Banking and finance 6. Electrical generation 7. Emergency services, and 8. Essential government functions
A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a series of specific recommendations for their protection.
What does this have to do with the issue of cut cables? At the height of the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical to achieving these goals.
It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security for investments so expensively and patiently built.
A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term.
My two cents worth.
Kind regards
Eric
-----Original Message----- From: kai wulff [mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke] Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 To: Eric Aligula Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues
It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor ..
Frustrated
Kai
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Colleagues
What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side.
Kind regards
Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry®
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This issue, amongst others was given some attention in Section 5.17 of ICT Policy Guidelines of 2009 and I quote, " Section 5.17 Network Security and Reliability. The Telecommunications infrastructure and networks are critical components of the national infrastructure. Regulations will therefore be developed to ensure that such infrastructure and networks are robust and resilient and have adequate security,redundancy and back-up arrangements." Eng.J.N.Kariuki. --- On Sun, 8/11/09, Eric Aligula <jairah@KIPPRA.OR.KE> wrote: From: Eric Aligula <jairah@KIPPRA.OR.KE> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 12:13 RE: [kictanet] Cable issues Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential functioning of its economy. These were: 1. Telecommunications 2. Transportation 3. Water supply 4. Oil and gas production 5. Banking and finance 6. Electrical generation 7. Emergency services, and 8. Essential government functions A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a series of specific recommendations for their protection. What does this have to do with the issue of “cut cables”? At the height of the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical to achieving these goals. It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security for investments so expensively and patiently built. A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term. My two cents worth. Kind regards Eric -----Original Message----- From: kai wulff [mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke] Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 To: Eric Aligula Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. Frustrated Kai -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von jairah@kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Colleagues What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. Kind regards Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage@nation.co.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 To: <jairah@kippra.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jairah@kippra.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40ya...
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kai wulff