
NEWS Media Council furious at morning show SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@ ke.nationmedia. com Posted Wednesday, February 8 2012 at 18:22 The Media Council of Kenya (MCK) has initiated disciplinary action against one of the country's top radio show for airing offensive material to an inappropriate audience. MCK chairman Levi Obonyo on Wednesday told reporters that the Council, the statutory regulator of media outlets in the country, would forward Classic 105 to its Complaints Commission for possible reprimand. Prof Obonyo said members of the public had complained about the content of a call-in programme on Tuesday morning. The programme's hosts had engaged their audience in a discussion on the use sex for material gain by women and probed the difference between commercial sex workers and married women. “The Media Council registers its strong objection to the broadcast carried by Classic FM on Tuesday and is forwarding the matter to the Complaints Commission for a hearing,” said Prof Obonyo. The MCK chairman said the station had gone against the code of ethics outlined in the Media Act in which offensive, vulgar or obscene language is prohibited. Prof Obonyo told the news conference that Classic FM erred by allowing callers to talk obscenities on air. According to MCK, the topic went against the “core of human moral values” and was abusive to the Kenyan public full story here: www.nation.co.ke/News/Media+Council+furore+over+racy+morning+show/-/1056/1322890/-/4kot32z/-/index.html -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)

Doesn't the CCK have any jurisdiction on this? On 2/8/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
NEWS Media Council furious at morning show SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@ ke.nationmedia. com Posted Wednesday, February 8 2012 at 18:22 The Media Council of Kenya (MCK) has initiated disciplinary action against one of the country's top radio show for airing offensive material to an inappropriate audience. MCK chairman Levi Obonyo on Wednesday told reporters that the Council, the statutory regulator of media outlets in the country, would forward Classic 105 to its Complaints Commission for possible reprimand. Prof Obonyo said members of the public had complained about the content of a call-in programme on Tuesday morning. The programme's hosts had engaged their audience in a discussion on the use sex for material gain by women and probed the difference between commercial sex workers and married women. “The Media Council registers its strong objection to the broadcast carried by Classic FM on Tuesday and is forwarding the matter to the Complaints Commission for a hearing,” said Prof Obonyo. The MCK chairman said the station had gone against the code of ethics outlined in the Media Act in which offensive, vulgar or obscene language is prohibited. Prof Obonyo told the news conference that Classic FM erred by allowing callers to talk obscenities on air. According to MCK, the topic went against the “core of human moral values” and was abusive to the Kenyan public
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The Media wanted freedom, so their relationship with CCK is very limited. Media Council serves the role of enforcing their (media) self regulation. This is really an interesting case, it will serve as a test on self regulation and also on the threshold hours on content that everyone talks about but no one really enforces. rgds 2012/2/8 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
Doesn't the CCK have any jurisdiction on this?
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NEWS Media Council furious at morning show SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@ ke.nationmedia. com Posted Wednesday, February 8 2012 at 18:22 The Media Council of Kenya (MCK) has initiated disciplinary action against one of the country's top radio show for airing offensive material to an inappropriate audience. MCK chairman Levi Obonyo on Wednesday told reporters that the Council, the statutory regulator of media outlets in the country, would forward Classic 105 to its Complaints Commission for possible reprimand. Prof Obonyo said members of the public had complained about the content of a call-in programme on Tuesday morning. The programme's hosts had engaged their audience in a discussion on the use sex for material gain by women and probed the difference between commercial sex workers and married women. “The Media Council registers its strong objection to the broadcast carried by Classic FM on Tuesday and is forwarding the matter to the Complaints Commission for a hearing,” said Prof Obonyo. The MCK chairman said the station had gone against the code of ethics outlined in the Media Act in which offensive, vulgar or obscene language is prohibited. Prof Obonyo told the news conference that Classic FM erred by allowing callers to talk obscenities on air. According to MCK, the topic went against the “core of human moral values” and was abusive to the Kenyan public
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What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country? Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them? On 2/9/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
The Media wanted freedom, so their relationship with CCK is very limited. Media Council serves the role of enforcing their (media) self regulation. This is really an interesting case, it will serve as a test on self regulation and also on the threshold hours on content that everyone talks about but no one really enforces. rgds
2012/2/8 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
Doesn't the CCK have any jurisdiction on this?
On 2/8/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
NEWS Media Council furious at morning show SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@ ke.nationmedia. com Posted Wednesday, February 8 2012 at 18:22 The Media Council of Kenya (MCK) has initiated disciplinary action against one of the country's top radio show for airing offensive material to an inappropriate audience. MCK chairman Levi Obonyo on Wednesday told reporters that the Council, the statutory regulator of media outlets in the country, would forward Classic 105 to its Complaints Commission for possible reprimand. Prof Obonyo said members of the public had complained about the content of a call-in programme on Tuesday morning. The programme's hosts had engaged their audience in a discussion on the use sex for material gain by women and probed the difference between commercial sex workers and married women. “The Media Council registers its strong objection to the broadcast carried by Classic FM on Tuesday and is forwarding the matter to the Complaints Commission for a hearing,” said Prof Obonyo. The MCK chairman said the station had gone against the code of ethics outlined in the Media Act in which offensive, vulgar or obscene language is prohibited. Prof Obonyo told the news conference that Classic FM erred by allowing callers to talk obscenities on air. According to MCK, the topic went against the “core of human moral values” and was abusive to the Kenyan public
full story here:
www.nation.co.ke/News/Media+Council+furore+over+racy+morning+show/-/1056/1322890/-/4kot32z/-/index.html
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This is definitely not the first time this complaint is coming up. How come nothing happens? Can we conclude CCK and MCK are ineffective? Cleophas On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country?
Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them?
The Media wanted freedom, so their relationship with CCK is very limited. Media Council serves the role of enforcing their (media) self regulation. This is really an interesting case, it will serve as a test on self regulation and also on the threshold hours on content that everyone talks about but no one really enforces. rgds
2012/2/8 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
Doesn't the CCK have any jurisdiction on this?
On 2/8/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
NEWS Media Council furious at morning show SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@ ke.nationmedia. com Posted Wednesday, February 8 2012 at 18:22 The Media Council of Kenya (MCK) has initiated disciplinary action against one of the country's top radio show for airing offensive material to an inappropriate audience. MCK chairman Levi Obonyo on Wednesday told reporters that the Council, the statutory regulator of media outlets in the country, would forward Classic 105 to its Complaints Commission for possible reprimand. Prof Obonyo said members of the public had complained about the content of a call-in programme on Tuesday morning. The programme's hosts had engaged their audience in a discussion on the use sex for material gain by women and probed the difference between commercial sex workers and married women. “The Media Council registers its strong objection to the broadcast carried by Classic FM on Tuesday and is forwarding the matter to the Complaints Commission for a hearing,” said Prof Obonyo. The MCK chairman said the station had gone against the code of ethics outlined in the Media Act in which offensive, vulgar or obscene language is prohibited. Prof Obonyo told the news conference that Classic FM erred by allowing callers to talk obscenities on air. According to MCK, the topic went against the “core of human moral values” and was abusive to the Kenyan public
full story here:
www.nation.co.ke/News/Media+Council+furore+over+racy+morning+show/-/1056/1322890/-/4kot32z/-/index.html
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The Media has a self regulating mechanism that allows for all parties to dialogue and examine such complaints. It does not act like the police rushing to arrest or beat up the offender, accused or suspect. The Media Council has a quasi-judicial body known as "The Complaints Commission" which, like a court, adjudicates on the cases raised by the public, and it has done a number and settled them. You may have seen newspapers publishing apologies (e.g the recent apology over a case involving the immediate former head of the civil service, Francis Muthaura, ). It take time, but certainly less time than the formal courts. A lot is being done through mediation, dialogue- away from public glare and only once in a while does the council come out to issue such warnings. The public is however encouraged to bring up more complaints for the council. You may send your complaints through - info@mediacouncil.or.ke. Also visit the website to see the complaints procedure and role/mandate of the media council. Oloo Janak Member, Media Council of Kenya.. --- On Thu, 2/9/12, Cleophas Barmasai <cbarmasai@gmail.com> wrote: From: Cleophas Barmasai <cbarmasai@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] MEDIA COUNCIL AND CLASSIC105 To: williamjanak@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 3:26 AM This is definitely not the first time this complaint is coming up. How come nothing happens? Can we conclude CCK and MCK are ineffective? Cleophas On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country? Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them? On 2/9/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
The Media wanted freedom, so their relationship with CCK is very limited.
Media Council serves the role of enforcing their (media) self regulation.
This is really an interesting case, it will serve as a test on self
regulation and also on the threshold hours on content that everyone talks
about but no one really enforces.
rgds
2012/2/8 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
Doesn't the CCK have any jurisdiction on this?
On 2/8/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
NEWS
Media Council furious at morning show
SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING
By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@
ke.nationmedia. com
Posted Wednesday, February 8 2012 at 18:22
The Media Council of Kenya (MCK) has initiated
disciplinary action against one of the country's top
radio show for airing offensive material to an
inappropriate audience.
MCK chairman Levi Obonyo on Wednesday told
reporters that the Council, the statutory regulator
of media outlets in the country, would forward
Classic 105 to its Complaints Commission for
possible reprimand.
Prof Obonyo said members of the public had
complained about the content of a call-in
programme on Tuesday morning.
The programme's hosts had engaged their
audience in a discussion on the use sex for
material gain by women and probed the difference
between commercial sex workers and married
women.
“The Media Council registers its strong objection to
the broadcast carried by Classic FM on Tuesday
and is forwarding the matter to the Complaints
Commission for a hearing,” said Prof Obonyo.
The MCK chairman said the station had gone
against the code of ethics outlined in the Media Act
in which offensive, vulgar or obscene language is
prohibited.
Prof Obonyo told the news conference that Classic
FM erred by allowing callers to talk obscenities on
air.
According to MCK, the topic went against the “core
of human moral values” and was abusive to the
Kenyan public
full story here:
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The KICA 1998 places regulation of broadcasting solely on the shoulders of CCK.If there is any limitations,then they can only be provided for in that Act or the Constitution and nowhere else. John Kariuki ________________________________ From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2012, 8:43 Subject: Re: [kictanet] MEDIA COUNCIL AND CLASSIC105 What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country? Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them? On 2/9/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
The Media wanted freedom, so their relationship with CCK is very limited. Media Council serves the role of enforcing their (media) self regulation. This is really an interesting case, it will serve as a test on self regulation and also on the threshold hours on content that everyone talks about but no one really enforces. rgds
2012/2/8 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
Doesn't the CCK have any jurisdiction on this?
On 2/8/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
NEWS Media Council furious at morning show SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@ ke.nationmedia. com Posted Wednesday, February 8 2012 at 18:22 The Media Council of Kenya (MCK) has initiated disciplinary action against one of the country's top radio show for airing offensive material to an inappropriate audience. MCK chairman Levi Obonyo on Wednesday told reporters that the Council, the statutory regulator of media outlets in the country, would forward Classic 105 to its Complaints Commission for possible reprimand. Prof Obonyo said members of the public had complained about the content of a call-in programme on Tuesday morning. The programme's hosts had engaged their audience in a discussion on the use sex for material gain by women and probed the difference between commercial sex workers and married women. “The Media Council registers its strong objection to the broadcast carried by Classic FM on Tuesday and is forwarding the matter to the Complaints Commission for a hearing,” said Prof Obonyo. The MCK chairman said the station had gone against the code of ethics outlined in the Media Act in which offensive, vulgar or obscene language is prohibited. Prof Obonyo told the news conference that Classic FM erred by allowing callers to talk obscenities on air. According to MCK, the topic went against the “core of human moral values” and was abusive to the Kenyan public
full story here:
www.nation.co.ke/News/Media+Council+furore+over+racy+morning+show/-/1056/1322890/-/4kot32z/-/index.html
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I think the Communication Act 2008/9? has provision for some body called Broadcasting Council that is mandate to oversee the Content aspects on behalf of the Regulator (CCK). That said, there is also the Media Council and is it Media Complaints Board? that are also mandated to do the same thing but from a "self-regulatory" perspective. It is amazing that with all these agencies on Tax-payers money, our Media (esp FM stations) have continued to spew adult content at hours that are internationally considered to be "family-hours". Ofcourse, the usual argument that if you dont like what you hear, you can switch to another station does not work because sometimes you are hearing all these in a matutu/public transport that does not belong to you. walu. --- On Thu, 2/9/12, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] MEDIA COUNCIL AND CLASSIC105 To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, February 9, 2012, 10:43 AM What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country? Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them? On 2/9/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
The Media wanted freedom, so their relationship with CCK is very limited. Media Council serves the role of enforcing their (media) self regulation. This is really an interesting case, it will serve as a test on self regulation and also on the threshold hours on content that everyone talks about but no one really enforces. rgds
2012/2/8 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
Doesn't the CCK have any jurisdiction on this?
On 2/8/12, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
NEWS Media Council furious at morning show SHARE BOOKMARK PRINT EMAIL RATING By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@ ke.nationmedia. com Posted Wednesday, February 8 2012 at 18:22 The Media Council of Kenya (MCK) has initiated disciplinary action against one of the country's top radio show for airing offensive material to an inappropriate audience. MCK chairman Levi Obonyo on Wednesday told reporters that the Council, the statutory regulator of media outlets in the country, would forward Classic 105 to its Complaints Commission for possible reprimand. Prof Obonyo said members of the public had complained about the content of a call-in programme on Tuesday morning. The programme's hosts had engaged their audience in a discussion on the use sex for material gain by women and probed the difference between commercial sex workers and married women. “The Media Council registers its strong objection to the broadcast carried by Classic FM on Tuesday and is forwarding the matter to the Complaints Commission for a hearing,” said Prof Obonyo. The MCK chairman said the station had gone against the code of ethics outlined in the Media Act in which offensive, vulgar or obscene language is prohibited. Prof Obonyo told the news conference that Classic FM erred by allowing callers to talk obscenities on air. According to MCK, the topic went against the “core of human moral values” and was abusive to the Kenyan public
full story here:
www.nation.co.ke/News/Media+Council+furore+over+racy+morning+show/-/1056/1322890/-/4kot32z/-/index.html
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country?
Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them?
One person's "filth" is another person's "public discourse on a pressing social issue." -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

de ja vu - I know for certain we discussed this issue about media regulating themselves....and I recall we had some input from industry players/journalists - I also recall saying they cannot EVER self regulate - not effectively - there are too many commercial considerations to allow them to address such issues squarely and fairly. Ah yes - i recall at the time it was all about press freedom and all that BS - I call it BS because its under the guise of press freedom that media houses and journalists give themselves so much latitude to decide what is in public interest and which public figures they can deface or which issues they can sensationalise. BTW I am not saying this applies to all media houses or journalists. Again I say the media should be regulated - as long as the govt has the right people, people beyond reproach, this can be done. On 9 February 2012 11:56, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country?
Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them?
One person's "filth" is another person's "public discourse on a pressing social issue."
- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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Francis has a point right there. We need another solution. MCK will not help concerning this perennial problem. Cleophas On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
de ja vu - I know for certain we discussed this issue about media regulating themselves....and I recall we had some input from industry players/journalists - I also recall saying they cannot EVER self regulate - not effectively - there are too many commercial considerations to allow them to address such issues squarely and fairly.
Ah yes - i recall at the time it was all about press freedom and all that BS - I call it BS because its under the guise of press freedom that media houses and journalists give themselves so much latitude to decide what is in public interest and which public figures they can deface or which issues they can sensationalise. BTW I am not saying this applies to all media houses or journalists.
Again I say the media should be regulated - as long as the govt has the right people, people beyond reproach, this can be done.
On 9 February 2012 11:56, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country?
Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them?
One person's "filth" is another person's "public discourse on a pressing social issue."
- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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I've also come across this<http://www.kenyanpatriot.com/an-open-letter-to-maina-kageni-classic-fm-show/>link on Facebook condemning the same media house and I think it is high time some sense is put in the media once and for all, Radio Africa to be more specific. Solomon On 9 February 2012 13:29, Cleophas Barmasai <cbarmasai@gmail.com> wrote:
Francis has a point right there.
We need another solution. MCK will not help concerning this perennial problem.
Cleophas
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
de ja vu - I know for certain we discussed this issue about media regulating themselves....and I recall we had some input from industry players/journalists - I also recall saying they cannot EVER self regulate - not effectively - there are too many commercial considerations to allow them to address such issues squarely and fairly.
Ah yes - i recall at the time it was all about press freedom and all that BS - I call it BS because its under the guise of press freedom that media houses and journalists give themselves so much latitude to decide what is in public interest and which public figures they can deface or which issues they can sensationalise. BTW I am not saying this applies to all media houses or journalists.
Again I say the media should be regulated - as long as the govt has the right people, people beyond reproach, this can be done.
On 9 February 2012 11:56, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country?
Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them?
One person's "filth" is another person's "public discourse on a pressing social issue."
- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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The Constitution, which envisages the amendment of KICA provides for Freedom of the Media. CCK / Government is only limited to establishment of media (licensing). Under Article 34 of the Constitution (freedom of the media) content control seems to be limited to hate speech, incitement etc In any case, the functions of the commission as far as media/broadcasting is concerned under KICA seem to be more policy and not to police the media..... 2012/2/9 Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>
de ja vu - I know for certain we discussed this issue about media regulating themselves....and I recall we had some input from industry players/journalists - I also recall saying they cannot EVER self regulate - not effectively - there are too many commercial considerations to allow them to address such issues squarely and fairly.
Ah yes - i recall at the time it was all about press freedom and all that BS - I call it BS because its under the guise of press freedom that media houses and journalists give themselves so much latitude to decide what is in public interest and which public figures they can deface or which issues they can sensationalise. BTW I am not saying this applies to all media houses or journalists.
Again I say the media should be regulated - as long as the govt has the right people, people beyond reproach, this can be done.
On 9 February 2012 11:56, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country?
Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them?
One person's "filth" is another person's "public discourse on a pressing social issue."
- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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Well having been directed by an illustrious colleague to the CCK website, I found the following documents. http://cck.go.ke/links/consultations/current_consultations/draft_programme_c... http://cck.go.ke/links/consultations/current_consultations/Broadcasting_comp... In my view these show that though the CCK doesn't directly want to meddle in complaints issues, it is solidly in charge. In my view, the buck stops with them. They are responsible for regulating the technical aspects of transmission and content on the airwaves. Self regulation is like telling the Mungiki to regulate themselves. Not very realistic. On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>wrote:
The Constitution, which envisages the amendment of KICA provides for Freedom of the Media. CCK / Government is only limited to establishment of media (licensing). Under Article 34 of the Constitution (freedom of the media) content control seems to be limited to hate speech, incitement etc In any case, the functions of the commission as far as media/broadcasting is concerned under KICA seem to be more policy and not to police the media.....
2012/2/9 Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>
de ja vu - I know for certain we discussed this issue about media regulating themselves....and I recall we had some input from industry players/journalists - I also recall saying they cannot EVER self regulate - not effectively - there are too many commercial considerations to allow them to address such issues squarely and fairly.
Ah yes - i recall at the time it was all about press freedom and all that BS - I call it BS because its under the guise of press freedom that media houses and journalists give themselves so much latitude to decide what is in public interest and which public figures they can deface or which issues they can sensationalise. BTW I am not saying this applies to all media houses or journalists.
Again I say the media should be regulated - as long as the govt has the right people, people beyond reproach, this can be done.
On 9 February 2012 11:56, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you mean their relationship with the CCK is limited? Isn't the body a regulator for all communication companies in the country?
Granted they are more concerned with technical issues but broadcasting what can only be termed as filth doesn't bother them?
One person's "filth" is another person's "public discourse on a pressing social issue."
- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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participants (9)
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Cleophas Barmasai
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Francis Hook
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Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)
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John Kariuki
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Mark Mwangi
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McTim
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Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
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Walubengo J
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william janak