State cancels the Laptop Project tender process?
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections. Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B. read more @ http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted ~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that! For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful. Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used. I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended. walu.
Walu: I read that what has been cancelled is the tender process. The process can be re-started by inter alia reducing the quantities or alternatively removing certain categories of services such as provision of content, training, bandwidth, etc. I believe that you should be smiling about this since there is a possibility that locals including institutions like yours stand to benefit. Regards James On Thursday, 17 October 2013, 11:33, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections. Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B. read more @ http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted ~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that! For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful. Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used. I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended. walu. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkulubi%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Prof. You have read my mind...I have been trying to get my (public) institution into the Laptop project with little success. I suspect all my government links were disconnected after the March elections and re-connecting them is proving to be more slippery than I thought :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/17/13, James Kulubi <jkulubi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] State cancels the Laptop Project tender process? To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 1:01 PM Walu:I read that what has been cancelled is the tender process. The process can be re-started by inter alia reducing the quantities or alternatively removing certain categories of services such as provision of content, training, bandwidth, etc.I believe that you should be smiling about this since there is a possibility that locals including institutions like yours stand to benefit.RegardsJames On Thursday, 17 October 2013, 11:33, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections. Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B. read more @ http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted ~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that! For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful. Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used. I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended. walu. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkulubi%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Listers, This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him. We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets. Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors. Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity. Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs. If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty. If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities. How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools. How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples. And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi... Regards Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections.
Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B.
read more @
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted
~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that!
For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful.
Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used.
I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended.
walu.
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@Ngigi +++1 I still do not understand why people like you do not sit on these so many Government Boards, Committees, Taskforce, etc. But then again, its perhaps because your ideas add value to the country, while the folks who would be sitting next to you (fellow board members) will be thinking "local pocket"...and your ideas will potentially with the clash with mood around the table...pricking conscience... a.k.a..noisemaker. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/17/13, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] State cancels the Laptop Project tender process? To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 2:42 PM Listers, This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him. We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets. Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors. Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity. Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs. If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty. If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities. How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools. How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples. And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi... RegardsWaithaka NgigiA1.iO On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections. Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B. read more @ http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted ~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that! For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful. Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used. I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended. walu. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Walu, I fully agree about Ngigi. Now, to compare us with Chinese Leadership... which correlates Corruption with Bigamy. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10698026 The decent wife is not the one likely to be sent in some sleazy outfit to test or corrupt "flexible" business men. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-07/24/content_15613932.htm If I recall media reports, the *alleged* mistress of a senior IEBC official was noted as the person used to solicit bribes. Of course this is likely to be a ghost story and ghosts do not exist :) Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ngigi
+++1
I still do not understand why people like you do not sit on these so many Government Boards, Committees, Taskforce, etc.
But then again, its perhaps because your ideas add value to the country, while the folks who would be sitting next to you (fellow board members) will be thinking "local pocket"...and your ideas will potentially with the clash with mood around the table...pricking conscience... a.k.a..noisemaker.
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/17/13, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] State cancels the Laptop Project tender process? To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 2:42 PM
Listers, This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him.
We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets.
Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors. Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity.
Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs.
If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty.
If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities.
How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools.
How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples.
And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi...
RegardsWaithaka NgigiA1.iO
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections.
Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B.
read more @
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted
~~~~
Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that!
For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful.
Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used.
I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended.
walu.
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Walu, I'll take that as a compliment, thanks. If the Powers that be wanted to, we have in this community persons who, could join such Boards, even at no pay, to work for the betterment of our country. But, as it is, just about everyone recruited nowadays wants to first and foremost make money either from their hefty salaries, allowances or kickbacks. And in such a setting you can be sure no decisions that would rock the boat would be made as everyone is on self-preservation mode and answers to a 'Master' somewhere. We forgot what "Public Service" means. And I often wonder; our grand fathers died and others were willing to do the same, so that our generation could live in an independent state. It wasnt easy. Why can't our generation rise up and free this country, for our sons & daughters from our current economic bondage? If you think about it, everyone of those Ksh 20B about to be used in over-priced hardware has been raised from the backs of our mothers, fathers, wifes, husbands, relatives, friends who toil our soil everyday only to end up paying VAT for bread. When then accumulated at Treasury, the money 'finds' a PS or Cabinet Secretary or a Procurement guy in 'Public Service' who is least bothered to get this country value for money! Just so you know, from my little 'procurement exercise' covering the whole of 10mins, I have a quote on Asus Laptops Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8ghz, 4gb RAM, 200GB Hard Drive for the princely sum of 165 USD per laptop if I pick 20, 000 of them. Go Figure! Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 17 Oct 2013 15:10, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ngigi
+++1
I still do not understand why people like you do not sit on these so many Government Boards, Committees, Taskforce, etc.
But then again, its perhaps because your ideas add value to the country, while the folks who would be sitting next to you (fellow board members) will be thinking "local pocket"...and your ideas will potentially with the clash with mood around the table...pricking conscience... a.k.a..noisemaker.
walu. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/17/13, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] State cancels the Laptop Project tender process? To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 2:42 PM
Listers, This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him.
We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets.
Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors. Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity.
Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs.
If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty.
If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities.
How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools.
How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples.
And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi...
RegardsWaithaka NgigiA1.iO
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections.
Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B.
read more @
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted
~~~~
Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that!
For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful.
Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used.
I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended.
walu.
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Hello Waithaka, Your proposal's sounds great to me if it can happen within an open online procurement platform. However one question I have been wanting to ask in large scale ICT procurements especially within the Education and Health sector, why can't there exist an online platform to handle such procurement? To me this will be a good balancing act that all can see who tendered for what and whatever value added they will bring in especially when it involves schools, because in the long run, for this Laptop project for Kenyan schools, I personally felt in such procurement process value added services must be a must and long term because its an important sector that can be a game changer to the whole education sector in terms of properly inegrating ICT into traditional curriculum,? Just my little 0.0000001% to this interesting discuss Peace Poncelet On 17 October 2013 11:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him.
We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets.
Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors.
Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity.
Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs.
If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty.
If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities.
How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools.
How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples.
And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi...
Regards Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections.
Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B.
read more @
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted
~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that!
For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful.
Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used.
I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended.
walu.
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Poncelet, Yes, an open online procurement platform would bring visibility to the tender process, but, the last time the government tried to implement one, it was mired in controversy when the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA), which was the procuring agent this time , flouted the very procurement rules it is supposed to uphold. So lets just say, there is currently none! But, even without one, if someone was willing to think just a little bit, you can still procure this in a cost effective manner, with reduced risk and get great value for money. Regards On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji@ymca.gm> wrote:
Hello Waithaka,
Your proposal's sounds great to me if it can happen within an open online procurement platform. However one question I have been wanting to ask in large scale ICT procurements especially within the Education and Health sector, why can't there exist an online platform to handle such procurement? To me this will be a good balancing act that all can see who tendered for what and whatever value added they will bring in especially when it involves schools, because in the long run, for this Laptop project for Kenyan schools, I personally felt in such procurement process value added services must be a must and long term because its an important sector that can be a game changer to the whole education sector in terms of properly inegrating ICT into traditional curriculum,?
Just my little 0.0000001% to this interesting discuss
Peace
Poncelet
On 17 October 2013 11:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him.
We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets.
Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors.
Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity.
Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs.
If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty.
If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities.
How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools.
How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples.
And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi...
Regards Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections.
Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B.
read more @
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted
~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that!
For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful.
Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used.
I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended.
walu.
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Great words there Ngigi, FREEDOM, VALUE FOR MONEY! Sound familiar? On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Poncelet,
Yes, an open online procurement platform would bring visibility to the tender process, but, the last time the government tried to implement one, it was mired in controversy when the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA), which was the procuring agent this time , flouted the very procurement rules it is supposed to uphold.
So lets just say, there is currently none!
But, even without one, if someone was willing to think just a little bit, you can still procure this in a cost effective manner, with reduced risk and get great value for money.
Regards
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji@ymca.gm>wrote:
Hello Waithaka,
Your proposal's sounds great to me if it can happen within an open online procurement platform. However one question I have been wanting to ask in large scale ICT procurements especially within the Education and Health sector, why can't there exist an online platform to handle such procurement? To me this will be a good balancing act that all can see who tendered for what and whatever value added they will bring in especially when it involves schools, because in the long run, for this Laptop project for Kenyan schools, I personally felt in such procurement process value added services must be a must and long term because its an important sector that can be a game changer to the whole education sector in terms of properly inegrating ICT into traditional curriculum,?
Just my little 0.0000001% to this interesting discuss
Peace
Poncelet
On 17 October 2013 11:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him.
We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets.
Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors.
Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity.
Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs.
If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty.
If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities.
How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools.
How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples.
And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi...
Regards Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections.
Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B.
read more @
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted
~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that!
For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful.
Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used.
I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended.
walu.
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Envisioning a 21st Century Organization to Coordinate the Internet Addressing System: A Shared, Global Public Resource Last week the seven, international members of the ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder Innovation convened online. The panel includes: Chair: Beth Simone Noveck Panelists: Allison Gilwald, Joi Ito, Karim Lakhani, Guo Liang, Geoff Mulgan, Bitange Ndemo GovLab Support Team: Stefaan Verhulst, Jillian Raines, Antony Declercq The Multistakeholder Innovation Panel is an external advisory group formed to bring fresh insights and outside perspective to ICANNs ongoing process of planning its own evolution. It has been almost 15 years since the creation of ICANN in 1998. At that time, ICANN was perceived as an experiment in translating the principles of participatory democracy or what is known in Internet governance parlance as multi-stakeholderism into practice. Since then the Internets usage has exploded and the process of managing the unique identifier system that enables communications to flow seamlessly across a unified, global Internet is facing numerous challenges. At the same time, innovations in governance from big and open data, open innovation, open contracting, open peer review, crowdsourcing to expert discovery allowing for more participatory, open, and transparent processes of governance have emerged. The Innovation Panel supported by the GovLab is working to make recommendations to the ICANN Community for how to evolve the ways ICANN manages and coordinates the domain name space. Starting with the principles of multi-stakeholder governance including transparency, accountability, accessibility and inclusiveness the goal of the panel is to address new ways to realize this vision more effectively. The aim of the panel isnt to tackle global issues of Internet governance but to articulate what a 21st century ICANN, whose functions are quite narrow, could look like and how it could operate given the innovations in governance happening across the world, added Panel Chair Prof. Beth Simone Noveck. During the call, members discussed how to capture the principles, platforms, practices and strategies for opening up ICANN and how to make its processes more effective and more legitimate at each stage of a policymaking process from issue-identification to agenda setting to solution-development and implementation to evaluation and review. Members agreed that the seven of them alone do not possess all the wisdom, know-how and insights necessary but, rather, their highest and best role is in stewarding a broader conversation around the question: what might it mean to manage and coordinate a shared, global public resource in the 21st century? To that end, the Panel wants input as it starts to map: The technologies and platforms that exist for identifying know-how and enabling participatory decision-making across stakeholders. The best models for leveraging collective intelligence, open innovation and open data around the world that could be applied to the ICANN processes; The variables that are important to consider when designing innovative ways to manage and coordinate using new technologies. To help frame the discussion, members also discussed three current topics on which ICANN is working. The goal being to help frame how to experiment around participatory decision-making on these issues: Next-Generation Registry Directory Services/Thick Whois: ◦ The NextGen Registry Directory Services is a proposed successor for todays Whois database (a publicly searchable repository of data on domain name registrations). This proposed new system would collect, validate and disclose generic top-level domain (gTLD) registration data for permissible purposes only, with some data elements accessible only to authenticated requestors. Name Collisions: ◦ During implementation of ICANNs decision to open up and allow for new generic top-level domains (gTLDs), the likelihood that name space collisions between existing gTLD strings, applied for new gTLD strings, and non-delegated TLDs became apparent. Specifically, local top level domains used internally by private enterprises may potentially conflict with names yet to be allocated. Internationalized Domain Name Variants: ◦ Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) use character sets such as Chinese, Arabic, Cyrillic or other non-Latin characters. An IDN variant TLD can be defined as one that may look like or be considered exchangeable with another TLD by a user of the related writing system. For example, a string in traditional Chinese characters commonly has an equivalent string in simplified Chinese characters. The issues that need to be resolved around supporting IDN variants in the root zone include how to avoid visual confusion and how to construct a lookup table in the root so that all variant queries are properly directed. Well soon be launching an online platform to gather input and ideas and reach out widely to the global audience focused on innovations in governance. In the meantime, I am requesting you to give us your input on what type of multistakeholder arrangements you want to see ICANN adopt. Ndemo. University of Nairobi Business School, Lower Kabete Campus
Congrats on being included in the Multi-stakeholder Innovation panel. This is a great initiative by ICANN, we will strive to give feedback as the community. Regards ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 18 October 2013 20:39, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Envisioning a 21st Century Organization to Coordinate the Internet Addressing System: A Shared, Global Public Resource
Last week the seven, international members of the ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder Innovation convened online. The panel includes: Chair: Beth Simone Noveck Panelists: Allison Gilwald, Joi Ito, Karim Lakhani, Guo Liang, Geoff Mulgan, Bitange Ndemo GovLab Support Team: Stefaan Verhulst, Jillian Raines, Antony Declercq
The Multistakeholder Innovation Panel is an external advisory group formed to bring fresh insights and outside perspective to ICANN’s ongoing process of planning its own evolution.
It has been almost 15 years since the creation of ICANN in 1998. At that time, ICANN was perceived as an experiment in translating the principles of participatory democracy – or what is known in Internet governance parlance as “multi-stakeholderism” – into practice. Since then the Internet’s usage has exploded and the process of managing the unique identifier system that enables communications to flow seamlessly across a unified, global Internet is facing numerous challenges. At the same time, innovations in governance from big and open data, open innovation, open contracting, open peer review, crowdsourcing to expert discovery allowing for more participatory, open, and transparent processes of governance have emerged.
The Innovation Panel supported by the GovLab is working to make recommendations to the ICANN Community for how to evolve the ways ICANN manages and coordinates the domain name space. Starting with the principles of multi-stakeholder governance – including transparency, accountability, accessibility and inclusiveness – the goal of the panel is to address new ways to realize this vision more effectively. “The aim of the panel isn’t to tackle global issues of Internet governance but to articulate what a 21st century ICANN, whose functions are quite narrow, could look like and how it could operate given the innovations in governance happening across the world,” added Panel Chair Prof. Beth Simone Noveck.
During the call, members discussed how to capture the principles, platforms, practices and strategies for opening up ICANN and how to make its processes more effective and more legitimate at each stage of a policymaking process from issue-identification to agenda setting to solution-development and implementation to evaluation and review.
Members agreed that the seven of them alone do not possess all the wisdom, know-how and insights necessary but, rather, their highest and best role is in stewarding a broader conversation around the question: what might it mean to manage and coordinate a shared, global public resource in the 21st century?
To that end, the Panel wants input as it starts to map: • The technologies and platforms that exist for identifying know-how and enabling participatory decision-making across stakeholders.
• The best models for leveraging collective intelligence, open innovation and open data around the world – that could be applied to the ICANN processes;
• The variables that are important to consider when designing innovative ways to manage and coordinate – using new technologies.
To help frame the discussion, members also discussed three current topics on which ICANN is working. The goal being to help frame how to experiment around participatory decision-making on these issues:
• Next-Generation Registry Directory Services/“Thick” Whois:
◦ The NextGen Registry Directory Services is a proposed successor for today’s Whois database (a publicly searchable repository of data on domain name registrations). This proposed new system would collect, validate and disclose generic top-level domain (gTLD) registration data for permissible purposes only, with some data elements accessible only to authenticated requestors.
• Name Collisions:
◦ During implementation of ICANN’s decision to open up and allow for new generic top-level domains (gTLDs), the likelihood that name space collisions between existing gTLD strings, applied for new gTLD strings, and non-delegated TLDs became apparent. Specifically, local top level domains used internally by private enterprises may potentially conflict with names yet to be allocated.
• Internationalized Domain Name Variants: ◦ Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) use character sets such as Chinese, Arabic, Cyrillic or other non-Latin characters. An IDN variant TLD can be defined as one that may look like or be considered exchangeable with another TLD by a user of the related writing system. For example, a string in traditional Chinese characters commonly has an equivalent string in simplified Chinese characters. The issues that need to be resolved around supporting IDN variants in the root zone include how to avoid “visual confusion” and how to construct a “lookup table” in the root so that all variant queries are properly directed.
We’ll soon be launching an online platform to gather input and ideas and reach out widely to the global audience focused on innovations in governance. In the meantime, I am requesting you to give us your input on what type of multistakeholder arrangements you want to see ICANN adopt.
Ndemo.
University of Nairobi Business School, Lower Kabete Campus
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Nice one Bitange, Congrats and good work going on more feed backs expected Regards On 18 October 2013 22:25, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Congrats on being included in the Multi-stakeholder Innovation panel. This is a great initiative by ICANN, we will strive to give feedback as the community.
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On 18 October 2013 20:39, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Envisioning a 21st Century Organization to Coordinate the Internet Addressing System: A Shared, Global Public Resource
Last week the seven, international members of the ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder Innovation convened online. The panel includes: Chair: Beth Simone Noveck Panelists: Allison Gilwald, Joi Ito, Karim Lakhani, Guo Liang, Geoff Mulgan, Bitange Ndemo GovLab Support Team: Stefaan Verhulst, Jillian Raines, Antony Declercq
The Multistakeholder Innovation Panel is an external advisory group formed to bring fresh insights and outside perspective to ICANN’s ongoing process of planning its own evolution.
It has been almost 15 years since the creation of ICANN in 1998. At that time, ICANN was perceived as an experiment in translating the principles of participatory democracy – or what is known in Internet governance parlance as “multi-stakeholderism” – into practice. Since then the Internet’s usage has exploded and the process of managing the unique identifier system that enables communications to flow seamlessly across a unified, global Internet is facing numerous challenges. At the same time, innovations in governance from big and open data, open innovation, open contracting, open peer review, crowdsourcing to expert discovery allowing for more participatory, open, and transparent processes of governance have emerged.
The Innovation Panel supported by the GovLab is working to make recommendations to the ICANN Community for how to evolve the ways ICANN manages and coordinates the domain name space. Starting with the principles of multi-stakeholder governance – including transparency, accountability, accessibility and inclusiveness – the goal of the panel is to address new ways to realize this vision more effectively. “The aim of the panel isn’t to tackle global issues of Internet governance but to articulate what a 21st century ICANN, whose functions are quite narrow, could look like and how it could operate given the innovations in governance happening across the world,” added Panel Chair Prof. Beth Simone Noveck.
During the call, members discussed how to capture the principles, platforms, practices and strategies for opening up ICANN and how to make its processes more effective and more legitimate at each stage of a policymaking process from issue-identification to agenda setting to solution-development and implementation to evaluation and review.
Members agreed that the seven of them alone do not possess all the wisdom, know-how and insights necessary but, rather, their highest and best role is in stewarding a broader conversation around the question: what might it mean to manage and coordinate a shared, global public resource in the 21st century?
To that end, the Panel wants input as it starts to map: • The technologies and platforms that exist for identifying know-how and enabling participatory decision-making across stakeholders.
• The best models for leveraging collective intelligence, open innovation and open data around the world – that could be applied to the ICANN processes;
• The variables that are important to consider when designing innovative ways to manage and coordinate – using new technologies.
To help frame the discussion, members also discussed three current topics on which ICANN is working. The goal being to help frame how to experiment around participatory decision-making on these issues:
• Next-Generation Registry Directory Services/“Thick” Whois:
◦ The NextGen Registry Directory Services is a proposed successor for today’s Whois database (a publicly searchable repository of data on domain name registrations). This proposed new system would collect, validate and disclose generic top-level domain (gTLD) registration data for permissible purposes only, with some data elements accessible only to authenticated requestors.
• Name Collisions:
◦ During implementation of ICANN’s decision to open up and allow for new generic top-level domains (gTLDs), the likelihood that name space collisions between existing gTLD strings, applied for new gTLD strings, and non-delegated TLDs became apparent. Specifically, local top level domains used internally by private enterprises may potentially conflict with names yet to be allocated.
• Internationalized Domain Name Variants: ◦ Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) use character sets such as Chinese, Arabic, Cyrillic or other non-Latin characters. An IDN variant TLD can be defined as one that may look like or be considered exchangeable with another TLD by a user of the related writing system. For example, a string in traditional Chinese characters commonly has an equivalent string in simplified Chinese characters. The issues that need to be resolved around supporting IDN variants in the root zone include how to avoid “visual confusion” and how to construct a “lookup table” in the root so that all variant queries are properly directed.
We’ll soon be launching an online platform to gather input and ideas and reach out widely to the global audience focused on innovations in governance. In the meantime, I am requesting you to give us your input on what type of multistakeholder arrangements you want to see ICANN adopt.
Ndemo.
University of Nairobi Business School, Lower Kabete Campus
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Who is the Ministry of Education pointman who was dealing with this projects? Can we get him to listen to these useful suggestions. I, for one agree, this contract cannot be given to a single supplier and even if it was, he would sub contract the same guys who could have been contracted initially anyway. James On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
Great words there Ngigi, FREEDOM, VALUE FOR MONEY! Sound familiar?
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Poncelet,
Yes, an open online procurement platform would bring visibility to the tender process, but, the last time the government tried to implement one, it was mired in controversy when the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA), which was the procuring agent this time , flouted the very procurement rules it is supposed to uphold.
So lets just say, there is currently none!
But, even without one, if someone was willing to think just a little bit, you can still procure this in a cost effective manner, with reduced risk and get great value for money.
Regards
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji@ymca.gm>wrote:
Hello Waithaka,
Your proposal's sounds great to me if it can happen within an open online procurement platform. However one question I have been wanting to ask in large scale ICT procurements especially within the Education and Health sector, why can't there exist an online platform to handle such procurement? To me this will be a good balancing act that all can see who tendered for what and whatever value added they will bring in especially when it involves schools, because in the long run, for this Laptop project for Kenyan schools, I personally felt in such procurement process value added services must be a must and long term because its an important sector that can be a game changer to the whole education sector in terms of properly inegrating ICT into traditional curriculum,?
Just my little 0.0000001% to this interesting discuss
Peace
Poncelet
On 17 October 2013 11:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him.
We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets.
Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors.
Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity.
Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs.
If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty.
If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities.
How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools.
How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples.
And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi...
Regards Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections.
Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B.
read more @
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted
~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that!
For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful.
Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used.
I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended.
walu.
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It is now clear why the project has been having all this hiccups http://www.techweez.com/2013/11/15/intel-explore-learn-kenyas-platform-digit... http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education-solutions/tablet-7-atom-bri... I bnow understand why no one in government was interested in what the rest of us were offering. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 On Tuesday, 22 October 2013, 15:24, James Mbugua <jgmbugua@gmail.com> wrote: Who is the Ministry of Education pointman who was dealing with this projects? Can we get him to listen to these useful suggestions. I, for one agree, this contract cannot be given to a single supplier and even if it was, he would sub contract the same guys who could have been contracted initially anyway. James On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote: Great words there Ngigi, FREEDOM, VALUE FOR MONEY! Sound familiar?
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Poncelet,
Yes, an open online procurement platform would bring visibility to the tender process, but, the last time the government tried to implement one, it was mired in controversy when the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA), which was the procuring agent this time , flouted the very procurement rules it is supposed to uphold.
So lets just say, there is currently none!
But, even without one, if someone was willing to think just a little bit, you can still procure this in a cost effective manner, with reduced risk and get great value for money.
Regards
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji@ymca.gm> wrote:
Hello Waithaka,
Your proposal's sounds great to me if it can happen within an open online procurement platform. However one question I have been wanting to ask in large scale ICT procurements especially within the Education and Health sector, why can't there exist an online platform to handle such procurement? To me this will be a good balancing act that all can see who tendered for what and whatever value added they will bring in especially when it involves schools, because in the long run, for this Laptop project for Kenyan schools, I personally felt in such procurement process value added services must be a must and long term because its an important sector that can be a game changer to the whole education sector in terms of properly inegrating ICT into traditional curriculum,? Just my little 0.0000001% to this interesting discuss Peace Poncelet
On 17 October 2013 11:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
This is probably the most important decision Kaimenyi has made to date and also that will define his 5 year term in Education. And I totally agree with him.
We are being let down by lack of creativity in our Procurement processes, yet we have persons who profess to have Masters & PHDs in Procurement, but they they can't think beyond their pockets.
Thing is, in large scale procurement, you have to look at how to not only get the best value, but how to manage the risk and also, how to ensure fair play amongst the vendors.
Any tender for a country-wide project just can't be awarded to a single vendor. This doesn't happen in industries like roads (Can you imagine GoK saying that they are issuing out a tender to tarmac every road in Kenya that will end up with a single vendor?), but in ICT we do it with impunity.
Since this is a Country Wide Project, the first thing that needs to be made are the standards and specifications for these laptops. Lock them down and then ask Original Equipment Manufacturers to quote on how much it would cost to supply these laptops in batches of 1,000. You do not need HP, IBM, Lenovo. Go and talk to the OEM Manufacturers directly, and let them give you Laptops branded KenyaONE with those specs.
If you are buying 20K Laptops, you can make Laptops to be made to your specification, unbranded at almost half the cost. How do I know, we once had special hardware made for a client here, who was buying just 500 pieces with full support and warranty.
If you think I am kidding, just take a look here http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/oem-laptop.html. You get laptops with Intel Core 2 Duo Chips & Motherboards at between 100 - 200 USD depending on quantities.
How do you support them? Give those contracts to every University, College and Youth Group that gets registered and the parts can be bought centrally then the local guys can buy them from there and resell to the schools.
How do you ensure quality? Ask KEBS to approve Samples. Give kids in select schools to play around with them for a month and get feedback, Once approved, then every laptop after that has to meet those specs as per those Samples.
And before anyone screams that China makes 'cheap' products, remember every major manufacturer including the one that makes your treasured iPad, manufacturers them in China. Even one DJ CK was shocked how our average perception of China is during a recent visit http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/08/lessons-from-uhurus-landmark-chi...
Regards Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
NAIROBI, KENYA: The Government has now cancelled the Laptop Project tender for schools over a budget deficit as bidders exceeded the budgetary projections.
Education Cabinet Secretary Prof Jacob Kaimenyi announced that the tender process was canceled as lowest bidder quoted Ksh 32B against an anticipated budget of Ksh 20B.
read more @ http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000095732&story_title=jubilee-laptop-project-halted
~~~~ Not sure if it is true but I think Kenyans need to ask serious questions on this. We cannot spend our time and effort putting forward ideas on how to best implement a high-risk project and then suddenly we are told it is over...kapput.. finito..go home. just like that!
For example If money is the problem why not modify the project to fit 20B the budget? I still think 20B would be sufficient if this project was tilted and tweaked towards the form1 student labs or even university students. The idea was noble and timely but execution and target audience for me (not Yawe :-) has always been doubtful.
Right now we are told suppliers asked for 32B Ksh and but we had 20B so cancel the project, no questions asked and perhaps wait for 2-3yrs later to read from the Auditor General about how the 20B was (mis?)used.
I think the CS for ICT should make a pitch to salvage the project in the modified form - assuming ofcourse the project was truly intended.
walu.
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participants (10)
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Bitange Ndemo -
Evans Ikua -
James Kulubi -
James Mbugua -
Kivuva -
Ngigi Waithaka -
Poncelet Ileleji -
robert yawe -
S.M. Muraya -
Walubengo J