Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical solution
I finally got a sneak preview of the leaked report on telecommunications dominance that has been repeatedly analysed in the media and even made it to editorial pages despite not being officially launched.Given that the ICT cabinet secretary has also jumped into the fray of analysing this report that is yet to be made public, I suppose I can also take advantage and make my analytical contribution. More @ WALUBENGO: Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical | | WALUBENGO: Safaricom dominance report p... | | walu.
When is this report going to be made public? I would like to come to my own conclusions after reading it. I'm getting a little wary on hearing opinions on something I have no access to On 1 March 2017 at 14:35, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I finally got a sneak preview of the leaked report on telecommunications dominance that has been repeatedly analysed <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/consumer-protection-a-means-of-cutting-safaricom-dominance/440808-3822560-jsmlpbz/index.html> in the media and even made it to editorial pages <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/Punishing-success-is-wrong/539548-3825290-u8wtqx/index.html> despite not being officially launched. Given that the ICT cabinet secretary <http://www.nation.co.ke/news/CS-Mucheru-opposes-plan-to-split-Safaricom/1056-3827436-g8u56sz/index.html> has also jumped into the fray of analysing this report that is yet to be made public, I suppose I can also take advantage and make my analytical contribution.
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@Sydney Trust me...I know that feeling :-) CA had earlier confirmed they will share the official report after it has undergone internal review. Unfortunately no timeliness on how long this review would take were offered. walu. From: Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical solution When is this report going to be made public? I would like to come to my own conclusions after reading it. I'm getting a little wary on hearing opinions on something I have no access to On 1 March 2017 at 14:35, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I finally got a sneak preview of the leaked report on telecommunications dominance that has been repeatedly analysed in the media and even made it to editorial pages despite not being officially launched.Given that the ICT cabinet secretary has also jumped into the fray of analysing this report that is yet to be made public, I suppose I can also take advantage and make my analytical contribution. More @ WALUBENGO: Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical | | WALUBENGO: Safaricom dominance report p... | | walu. ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards,Sidney | Twitter: @princelySid | Website: sidneyochieng.co.ke |
WaluHaving seen your comments I have no comment yet until the report is made public. However,the most important determination would be a declaration of dominance in whatever market segments.That is a major admission of market failure under competition law as applied to ICT sector and this would be a significant finding. The remedies proposed to deal with the matter may require other considerations by the regulator rather than rely on a single consultant report.It is like in medicine where DIAGNOSIS is just one very important part but determining the most suitable TREATMENT may require a team of doctors of varying specializations. John Kariuki From: Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: kariuki_JN@yahoo.com Cc: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical solution @Sydney Trust me...I know that feeling :-) CA had earlier confirmed they will share the official report after it has undergone internal review. Unfortunately no timeliness on how long this review would take were offered. walu. From: Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical solution When is this report going to be made public? I would like to come to my own conclusions after reading it. I'm getting a little wary on hearing opinions on something I have no access to On 1 March 2017 at 14:35, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I finally got a sneak preview of the leaked report on telecommunications dominance that has been repeatedly analysed in the media and even made it to editorial pages despite not being officially launched.Given that the ICT cabinet secretary has also jumped into the fray of analysing this report that is yet to be made public, I suppose I can also take advantage and make my analytical contribution. More @ WALUBENGO: Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical | | WALUBENGO: Safaricom dominance report p... | | walu. ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards,Sidney | Twitter: @princelySid | Website: sidneyochieng.co.ke | _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kariuki_jn%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
John I quote you:- "...a declaration of dominance in whatever market segments.That is a major admission of market failure under competition law.." How is Dominance now being equated to market failure? Have we reached a point where we allow free markets and then when someone gains Dominance we declare market failure? How now? Here's an interesting definition of Market Failure:- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_failure Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 2 Mar 2017, at 8:28 PM, John Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
a declaration of dominance in whatever market segments.That is a major admission of market failure under competition law a
Ali, Is the issue about Market Dominance really? Most conversations I have seen are drifting towards just declaring Safaricom as Market Dominant! That's not enough. What is crucial is either the *abuse* and *risks* based on that market dominance, the equivalent of too big to fail! And what is abuse? Say Safaricom based on its dominance as a data provider decided to promote it's LittleCab venture by slowing down Internet traffic for Uber & other competition users (incidentally, I was in a Uber ride not long ago and the driver mentioned strongly that he believes that is so...) The studies that need to be undertaken should relate to whether Safaricom has used its position to advance its interests illegally. However, regulators also should stop sleeping on their job, including CBK who should *mandate* that all Money Transfers Services (M-Pesa et.al) should be inter-operable and have a clearing house similar to banks within at most 6 months. That in one stroke would take most risk off M-Pesa. Regards On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
John
I quote you:-
"...a declaration of dominance in whatever market segments.That is a major admission of market failure under competition law.."
How is Dominance now being equated to market failure?
Have we reached a point where we allow free markets and then when someone gains Dominance we declare market failure?
How now?
Here's an interesting definition of Market Failure:-
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_failure
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Thank you Ali. Acquiring a dominant position is not unlawful. It's how you got there and what you do to maintain that position that need interrogation. On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
John
I quote you:-
"...a declaration of dominance in whatever market segments.That is a major admission of market failure under competition law.."
How is Dominance now being equated to market failure?
Have we reached a point where we allow free markets and then when someone gains Dominance we declare market failure?
How now?
Here's an interesting definition of Market Failure:-
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_failure
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a declaration of dominance in whatever market segments.That is a major admission of market failure under competition law a
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the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position? regards Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 at 10:44, kanini mutemi via kictanet<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed. On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
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In other words - Interoperability? Ali Hussein Get Outlook for iOS On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed. On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position? regards Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 at 10:44, kanini mutemi via kictanet<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muriukin%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Yes. I agree with the proposal for interoperability. In my mind, Safaricom communication services and M-PESA are different services. Requiring that one subscribe to the first (Safaricom network) to access the benefits of the second (M-PESA) amounts to tying. This also applies to a lot of the M-products that run exclusively on that platform. On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let
Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
regards
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Its like coming to my house and suggesting that the TV i bought for my family is a public good. Safaricom has rights over Mpesa including terminating its use, we have airtelmoney, Orangemoney, i cant get the argument. If i want Safaricom products i move to the network. Regards On Mar 16, 2017 7:27 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Yes. I agree with the proposal for interoperability. In my mind, Safaricom communication services and M-PESA are different services. Requiring that one subscribe to the first (Safaricom network) to access the benefits of the second (M-PESA) amounts to tying. This also applies to a lot of the M-products that run exclusively on that platform.
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let
Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
regards
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Barrack It's a good economic argument for Safaricom if nothing else. But yes, I do agree this shouldn't be forced on them. They should have that choice. Just like any bank has a choice not to have their ATMs connected to other banks..despite the KBA and the Clearing house. There will come a time that Mpesa will wish they had made the system agnostic to all service provides and charge a small fee for it.. Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 16 Mar 2017, at 9:39 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its like coming to my house and suggesting that the TV i bought for my family is a public good. Safaricom has rights over Mpesa including terminating its use, we have airtelmoney, Orangemoney, i cant get the argument. If i want Safaricom products i move to the network.
Regards
On Mar 16, 2017 7:27 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Yes. I agree with the proposal for interoperability. In my mind, Safaricom communication services and M-PESA are different services. Requiring that one subscribe to the first (Safaricom network) to access the benefits of the second (M-PESA) amounts to tying. This also applies to a lot of the M-products that run exclusively on that platform.
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
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Hussein, If Bank A decided to sell juice there would be an expectation that they sell the juice to everyone not just the ATM holders. Also that they not prevent their customers from buying juice from other juice vendors. No? On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Admin CampusCiti via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Barrack
It's a good economic argument for Safaricom if nothing else. But yes, I do agree this shouldn't be forced on them. They should have that choice. Just like any bank has a choice not to have their ATMs connected to other banks..despite the KBA and the Clearing house. There will come a time that Mpesa will wish they had made the system agnostic to all service provides and charge a small fee for it..
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Its like coming to my house and suggesting that the TV i bought for my family is a public good. Safaricom has rights over Mpesa including terminating its use, we have airtelmoney, Orangemoney, i cant get the argument. If i want Safaricom products i move to the network.
Regards On Mar 16, 2017 7:27 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Yes. I agree with the proposal for interoperability. In my mind, Safaricom communication services and M-PESA are different services. Requiring that one subscribe to the first (Safaricom network) to access the benefits of the second (M-PESA) amounts to tying. This also applies to a lot of the M-products that run exclusively on that platform.
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let
Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
regards
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Yup.. :-) Thats my point exactly.. :-) I'm hoping Safaricom is listening..their customers are asking.. Interoperability.. :-) Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 16 Mar 2017, at 10:30 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hussein,
If Bank A decided to sell juice there would be an expectation that they sell the juice to everyone not just the ATM holders. Also that they not prevent their customers from buying juice from other juice vendors. No?
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Admin CampusCiti via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Barrack
It's a good economic argument for Safaricom if nothing else. But yes, I do agree this shouldn't be forced on them. They should have that choice. Just like any bank has a choice not to have their ATMs connected to other banks..despite the KBA and the Clearing house. There will come a time that Mpesa will wish they had made the system agnostic to all service provides and charge a small fee for it..
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On 16 Mar 2017, at 9:39 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its like coming to my house and suggesting that the TV i bought for my family is a public good. Safaricom has rights over Mpesa including terminating its use, we have airtelmoney, Orangemoney, i cant get the argument. If i want Safaricom products i move to the network.
Regards
On Mar 16, 2017 7:27 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Yes. I agree with the proposal for interoperability. In my mind, Safaricom communication services and M-PESA are different services. Requiring that one subscribe to the first (Safaricom network) to access the benefits of the second (M-PESA) amounts to tying. This also applies to a lot of the M-products that run exclusively on that platform.
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
> On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position? > > regards > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 at 10:44, kanini mutemi via kictanet > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muriukin%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Agreed Ali, thanks Kanini for the feedback I think some of them are business decisions that will determine the survival or collapse of the enterprise. What is your take on the new interbank service by KBA in light of this dominance debate? Regards On Mar 16, 2017 8:24 AM, "Admin CampusCiti" <info@campusciti.com> wrote:
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It's a good economic argument for Safaricom if nothing else. But yes, I do agree this shouldn't be forced on them. They should have that choice. Just like any bank has a choice not to have their ATMs connected to other banks..despite the KBA and the Clearing house. There will come a time that Mpesa will wish they had made the system agnostic to all service provides and charge a small fee for it..
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On 16 Mar 2017, at 9:39 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its like coming to my house and suggesting that the TV i bought for my family is a public good. Safaricom has rights over Mpesa including terminating its use, we have airtelmoney, Orangemoney, i cant get the argument. If i want Safaricom products i move to the network.
Regards On Mar 16, 2017 7:27 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Yes. I agree with the proposal for interoperability. In my mind, Safaricom communication services and M-PESA are different services. Requiring that one subscribe to the first (Safaricom network) to access the benefits of the second (M-PESA) amounts to tying. This also applies to a lot of the M-products that run exclusively on that platform.
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let
Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
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Barrack You've raised a very pertinent question. This new Interbank thingi.. I have said many times before that the Regulators of the world need to update their tools to fit the new reality. Let me explain. Until last month I used to take the tortuous route (it takes 12 steps minimum to make a payment via mpesa) of paying my bills via mpesa. Then came Mula. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cellulant.consumerapp&hl=en So now I use Mula to pay all my bills. And I suspect that soon I will use it for all other payment related activities. Why did I do this? 1. Because I own Mula or just like them? NO. It's because they have dealt with a serious issue that plagues payment platforms in this country - User Experience. Seamless. It even reminds me when my bills are due..And the integration with billers? (KPLC, Zulu etc) Sweet.. 2. Did I need CA, CAK, MOICT and other acronyms to tell me about Mula? Or to Vuka? Again NO. Did Mpesa get forced to integrate with Mula? Nope. You get my drift.. Dominance is for the lazy..Safaricom will either be forced by market forces to improve (as they continue to do) or they will go the way of YU and the Dodo..It's that simple.. Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 16 Mar 2017, at 10:32 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed Ali, thanks Kanini for the feedback
I think some of them are business decisions that will determine the survival or collapse of the enterprise. What is your take on the new interbank service by KBA in light of this dominance debate?
Regards
On Mar 16, 2017 8:24 AM, "Admin CampusCiti" <info@campusciti.com> wrote: Barrack
It's a good economic argument for Safaricom if nothing else. But yes, I do agree this shouldn't be forced on them. They should have that choice. Just like any bank has a choice not to have their ATMs connected to other banks..despite the KBA and the Clearing house. There will come a time that Mpesa will wish they had made the system agnostic to all service provides and charge a small fee for it..
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On 16 Mar 2017, at 9:39 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Its like coming to my house and suggesting that the TV i bought for my family is a public good. Safaricom has rights over Mpesa including terminating its use, we have airtelmoney, Orangemoney, i cant get the argument. If i want Safaricom products i move to the network.
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On Mar 16, 2017 7:27 AM, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Yes. I agree with the proposal for interoperability. In my mind, Safaricom communication services and M-PESA are different services. Requiring that one subscribe to the first (Safaricom network) to access the benefits of the second (M-PESA) amounts to tying. This also applies to a lot of the M-products that run exclusively on that platform.
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
> On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position? > > regards > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 at 10:44, kanini mutemi via kictanet > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muriukin%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Exactly and the possibility of having the SIM Application Toolkit menu on other providers sim cards on customer request or on the minimun a short code to access the mpesa service on all mobile networks. <https://mailtrack.io/> Sent with Mailtrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=jnjogu@gmail.com&idSignature=22> Regards, Job Muriuki, Skype: heviejob On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let
Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
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Well said Ali, the market is king, where do i find Mula? Regards On Mar 16, 2017 9:57 AM, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Exactly and the possibility of having the SIM Application Toolkit menu on other providers sim cards on customer request or on the minimun a short code to access the mpesa service on all mobile networks.
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let
Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
regards
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Got it, nice solution. Regards On Mar 16, 2017 10:14 AM, "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Well said Ali, the market is king, where do i find Mula?
Regards On Mar 16, 2017 9:57 AM, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Exactly and the possibility of having the SIM Application Toolkit menu on other providers sim cards on customer request or on the minimun a short code to access the mpesa service on all mobile networks.
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
In other words - Interoperability?
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM +0300, "Job Muriuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We might be looking at this Safaricom dominance issue wrongly. Let
Safaricom run mpesa but have the exclusivity to safaricom numbers removed.
On 10 Mar 2017 15:01, "Watila Alex via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
the question a regulator should ask is - is the dominant player abusing it's position? so in what ways is safaricom abusing thier dominant position?
regards
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Eng Kariuki. +1. Totally agree. Especially the bit about the treatment/solution requiring a team of doctors with various specializations. Hope CA will also hire local doctors since they can add some medicine from the local herbs. (Hint: Kazi kwa local vijana na wazee:-). On a serious note, if you got a Malaria attack in the US, you are likely to die faster than if you got it in Siaya (value of local content) walu. From: John Kariuki <kariuki_jn@yahoo.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical solution WaluHaving seen your comments I have no comment yet until the report is made public. However,the most important determination would be a declaration of dominance in whatever market segments.That is a major admission of market failure under competition law as applied to ICT sector and this would be a significant finding. The remedies proposed to deal with the matter may require other considerations by the regulator rather than rely on a single consultant report.It is like in medicine where DIAGNOSIS is just one very important part but determining the most suitable TREATMENT may require a team of doctors of varying specializations. John Kariuki From: Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: kariuki_JN@yahoo.com Cc: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical solution @Sydney Trust me...I know that feeling :-) CA had earlier confirmed they will share the official report after it has undergone internal review. Unfortunately no timeliness on how long this review would take were offered. walu. From: Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical solution When is this report going to be made public? I would like to come to my own conclusions after reading it. I'm getting a little wary on hearing opinions on something I have no access to On 1 March 2017 at 14:35, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I finally got a sneak preview of the leaked report on telecommunications dominance that has been repeatedly analysed in the media and even made it to editorial pages despite not being officially launched.Given that the ICT cabinet secretary has also jumped into the fray of analysing this report that is yet to be made public, I suppose I can also take advantage and make my analytical contribution. More @ WALUBENGO: Safaricom dominance report proposes an impractical | | WALUBENGO: Safaricom dominance report p... | | walu. ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards,Sidney | Twitter: @princelySid | Website: sidneyochieng.co.ke | _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kariuki_jn%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Sidney You and I both. :-) I'm even tired of my own opinion without the benefit (of a 'leaked' report) that Walu, Jaindi and a select few seem to have over us 'Watus' As days go buy I'm beginning to believe my own conspiracy theory..That the report was deliberately 'leaked' to float the proverbial balloon... I'm hoping that it's simply that.. a conspiracy theory.. Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 1 Mar 2017, at 2:44 PM, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
When is this report going to be made public? I would like to come to my own conclusions after reading it. I'm getting a little wary on hearing opinions on something I have no access to
On 1 March 2017 at 14:35, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I finally got a sneak preview of the leaked report on telecommunications dominance that has been repeatedly analysed in the media and even made it to editorial pages despite not being officially launched. Given that the ICT cabinet secretary has also jumped into the fray of analysing this report that is yet to be made public, I suppose I can also take advantage and make my analytical contribution.
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participants (10)
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Admin CampusCiti -
Ali Hussein -
Barrack Otieno -
Job Muriuki -
John Kariuki -
kanini mutemi -
Ngigi Waithaka -
Sidney Ochieng -
Walubengo J -
Watila Alex