Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Ikua, Indeed it is never too early for ICTs. As the tweeting class, all our Kids have these gadgets at home and its largely beneficial. But trust me, the 'private' experience takes a whole new shape when done nationally and on a public basis. Other than the well known economic concept of the 'tragedy of the commons' there are those are other challenges I highlighted earlier. These risks/challenges are 10 times lower under our high school system when compared to our primary school system. Our high schools already have curricula beyond IT (Harry H?), theres already a small but emerging community of ICT high school teachers and quite a good group of high schools already have substantial Computer Lab Management experience. As a risk management consultant, @Ikua, you will agree with me that this project has a better chance of success and bigger social dividends if it kicked off at high school level rather than at primary level. After all, by the time these standard 1s get to high school, they will get this free device/ict ystem extremely mature. And as these form1s get to University, we shall be ready to graduate the true knowlege workers in just another 8yrs rather than in the next 20yrs- when std1s graduate. So guys, am not fighting the idea, am just increasing its chance of success by suggesting changes to its point of entry within our educational system. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 2:36 PM AST (Arabian) Evans Ikua wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids.
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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In fact, as an example, the one laptop per child concept is not viable for a shorter term roi. But the government cant be in the business of short term gains. That is why we have vision 2030. One of the reasons why Bill Gates is where he is is because he got exposed to computers at an early age. The same can be said of the majority of innovators in the developed world. If a class 1 kid gets a laptop, it will be accessed by his entire family, and neighbours, maybe the whole village. On a lighter note, in one of the beneficiary countries in the one laptop per child programme, the only light in one village at night is from one kid's laptop! On Apr 10, 2013 4:45 PM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ikua,
Indeed it is never too early for ICTs. As the tweeting class, all our Kids have these gadgets at home and its largely beneficial.
But trust me, the 'private' experience takes a whole new shape when done nationally and on a public basis. Other than the well known economic concept of the 'tragedy of the commons' there are those are other challenges I highlighted earlier. These risks/challenges are 10 times lower under our high school system when compared to our primary school system. Our high schools already have curricula beyond IT (Harry H?), theres already a small but emerging community of ICT high school teachers and quite a good group of high schools already have substantial Computer Lab Management experience.
As a risk management consultant, @Ikua, you will agree with me that this project has a better chance of success and bigger social dividends if it kicked off at high school level rather than at primary level. After all, by the time these standard 1s get to high school, they will get this free device/ict ystem extremely mature. And as these form1s get to University, we shall be ready to graduate the true knowlege workers in just another 8yrs rather than in the next 20yrs- when std1s graduate.
So guys, am not fighting the idea, am just increasing its chance of success by suggesting changes to its point of entry within our educational system.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 2:36 PM AST (Arabian) Evans Ikua wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids.
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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But just to throw a spanner in the works. Let me ask, why are we providing laptops to class 1 kids? We might end up providing the laptops then wonder what next. Is it to teach IT literacy, to provide kids with a tool to explore, delivery of syllabus ? We need to define a problem then come up with the use case. On 10 Apr 2013 17:42, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ikua,
Indeed it is never too early for ICTs. As the tweeting class, all our Kids have these gadgets at home and its largely beneficial.
But trust me, the 'private' experience takes a whole new shape when done nationally and on a public basis. Other than the well known economic concept of the 'tragedy of the commons' there are those are other challenges I highlighted earlier. These risks/challenges are 10 times lower under our high school system when compared to our primary school system. Our high schools already have curricula beyond IT (Harry H?), theres already a small but emerging community of ICT high school teachers and quite a good group of high schools already have substantial Computer Lab Management experience.
As a risk management consultant, @Ikua, you will agree with me that this project has a better chance of success and bigger social dividends if it kicked off at high school level rather than at primary level. After all, by the time these standard 1s get to high school, they will get this free device/ict ystem extremely mature. And as these form1s get to University, we shall be ready to graduate the true knowlege workers in just another 8yrs rather than in the next 20yrs- when std1s graduate.
So guys, am not fighting the idea, am just increasing its chance of success by suggesting changes to its point of entry within our educational system.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 2:36 PM AST (Arabian) Evans Ikua wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids.
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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I am of the school of thought that we should give them with such preloaded software and ability for them to interconnect and see what happens. I understand such blind actions are very risky and this will involve billions of dollars but shouldn't the government be the biggest experimenter? What is the other option? Create a boring curriculum which will be outdated the day it is commissioned or encourage exploration and discovery. I dare say I learnt lots more tinkering and reading interesting books on my own than any teachers taught me in class. I am not saying their efforts were useless but the resources outside the classroom will always outweigh the ones inside. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
But just to throw a spanner in the works. Let me ask, why are we providing laptops to class 1 kids?
We might end up providing the laptops then wonder what next.
Is it to teach IT literacy, to provide kids with a tool to explore, delivery of syllabus ?
We need to define a problem then come up with the use case. On 10 Apr 2013 17:42, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ikua,
Indeed it is never too early for ICTs. As the tweeting class, all our Kids have these gadgets at home and its largely beneficial.
But trust me, the 'private' experience takes a whole new shape when done nationally and on a public basis. Other than the well known economic concept of the 'tragedy of the commons' there are those are other challenges I highlighted earlier. These risks/challenges are 10 times lower under our high school system when compared to our primary school system. Our high schools already have curricula beyond IT (Harry H?), theres already a small but emerging community of ICT high school teachers and quite a good group of high schools already have substantial Computer Lab Management experience.
As a risk management consultant, @Ikua, you will agree with me that this project has a better chance of success and bigger social dividends if it kicked off at high school level rather than at primary level. After all, by the time these standard 1s get to high school, they will get this free device/ict ystem extremely mature. And as these form1s get to University, we shall be ready to graduate the true knowlege workers in just another 8yrs rather than in the next 20yrs- when std1s graduate.
So guys, am not fighting the idea, am just increasing its chance of success by suggesting changes to its point of entry within our educational system.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 2:36 PM AST (Arabian) Evans Ikua wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids.
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
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------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
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Walu, I fully agree with you and this is what I stated earlier in this list. And I do hope the decision makers are receiving these posts. Key question is, do we start where we can get quick gains in 5 years or wait 12 years to get into actualization and turning the knowledge into employment/innovation/entrepreneurship? Gilda Odera -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+godera=skyweb.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:46 PM To: godera@skyweb.co.ke Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Ikua, Indeed it is never too early for ICTs. As the tweeting class, all our Kids have these gadgets at home and its largely beneficial. But trust me, the 'private' experience takes a whole new shape when done nationally and on a public basis. Other than the well known economic concept of the 'tragedy of the commons' there are those are other challenges I highlighted earlier. These risks/challenges are 10 times lower under our high school system when compared to our primary school system. Our high schools already have curricula beyond IT (Harry H?), theres already a small but emerging community of ICT high school teachers and quite a good group of high schools already have substantial Computer Lab Management experience. As a risk management consultant, @Ikua, you will agree with me that this project has a better chance of success and bigger social dividends if it kicked off at high school level rather than at primary level. After all, by the time these standard 1s get to high school, they will get this free device/ict ystem extremely mature. And as these form1s get to University, we shall be ready to graduate the true knowlege workers in just another 8yrs rather than in the next 20yrs- when std1s graduate. So guys, am not fighting the idea, am just increasing its chance of success by suggesting changes to its point of entry within our educational system. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 2:36 PM AST (Arabian) Evans Ikua wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids.
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Why not do both - Standard 1 and Form 1. You can't turn and tell innocent kids they will now not get the laptops when parents have even been sms Presidential duo to remind them of laptops. We teach them to keep promises we have to do the same. After all starting it at the foundational level (class 1) is absolutely critical! -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: April 10, 2013 4:46 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Ikua, Indeed it is never too early for ICTs. As the tweeting class, all our Kids have these gadgets at home and its largely beneficial. But trust me, the 'private' experience takes a whole new shape when done nationally and on a public basis. Other than the well known economic concept of the 'tragedy of the commons' there are those are other challenges I highlighted earlier. These risks/challenges are 10 times lower under our high school system when compared to our primary school system. Our high schools already have curricula beyond IT (Harry H?), theres already a small but emerging community of ICT high school teachers and quite a good group of high schools already have substantial Computer Lab Management experience. As a risk management consultant, @Ikua, you will agree with me that this project has a better chance of success and bigger social dividends if it kicked off at high school level rather than at primary level. After all, by the time these standard 1s get to high school, they will get this free device/ict ystem extremely mature. And as these form1s get to University, we shall be ready to graduate the true knowlege workers in just another 8yrs rather than in the next 20yrs- when std1s graduate. So guys, am not fighting the idea, am just increasing its chance of success by suggesting changes to its point of entry within our educational system. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 2:36 PM AST (Arabian) Evans Ikua wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids.
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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Valid point Edith- kids cannot be taken for a ride. I rest my case on that issue on this regard- promises must be kept. But how do we get the high school students included? In my view they need it even more and the country does need this lot to kick into usage of ICT at this stage and not after O level surely! Yet I doubt the budgets will allow this- or can it? I still do wish it was structured differently so they start with high school students then roll out to primary once this capacity is established. I assure you we would see amazing innovations by the time they finish form 4 and we would see great strides in self employment- unemployment is bursting on the seams. Can they think of both then? Gilda -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+godera=skyweb.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:20 AM To: godera@skyweb.co.ke Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants Why not do both - Standard 1 and Form 1. You can't turn and tell innocent kids they will now not get the laptops when parents have even been sms Presidential duo to remind them of laptops. We teach them to keep promises we have to do the same. After all starting it at the foundational level (class 1) is absolutely critical! -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: April 10, 2013 4:46 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Ikua, Indeed it is never too early for ICTs. As the tweeting class, all our Kids have these gadgets at home and its largely beneficial. But trust me, the 'private' experience takes a whole new shape when done nationally and on a public basis. Other than the well known economic concept of the 'tragedy of the commons' there are those are other challenges I highlighted earlier. These risks/challenges are 10 times lower under our high school system when compared to our primary school system. Our high schools already have curricula beyond IT (Harry H?), theres already a small but emerging community of ICT high school teachers and quite a good group of high schools already have substantial Computer Lab Management experience. As a risk management consultant, @Ikua, you will agree with me that this project has a better chance of success and bigger social dividends if it kicked off at high school level rather than at primary level. After all, by the time these standard 1s get to high school, they will get this free device/ict ystem extremely mature. And as these form1s get to University, we shall be ready to graduate the true knowlege workers in just another 8yrs rather than in the next 20yrs- when std1s graduate. So guys, am not fighting the idea, am just increasing its chance of success by suggesting changes to its point of entry within our educational system. walu. ------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 2:36 PM AST (Arabian) Evans Ikua wrote:
A good place to start would be to get the laptops installed with Qimo for Kids.
Qimo is a desktop operating system designed for kids. Based on the open source Ubuntu Linux <http://www.ubuntu.com/> desktop, Qimo comes pre-installed with educational games for children aged 3 and up. Qimo’s interface has been designed to be intuitive and easy to use, providing large icons for all installed games, so that even the youngest users have no trouble selecting the activity they want. My kids use it and the one in class 1 has really improved his grades because of its educational games that improve memory, language and maths skills, not mention that his keyboarding and mouse skills are very good. For those who think class 1 is too early, he started using this about 2 years ago. and i wish I had discovered it earlier.
Also, I hope and pray that my tax money will not be used to pay for any software that we do not need at all.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Harry!
As you can see on literacy (*age 15 and over can read and write*) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate , Kenya is one of the leading countries in Africa but still a distant from getting it to the best level.
There is no world map indicating IT literacy by country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_literacy, we should support this move by the new government so that come 2030, we shall be leading on this space.
We should begin now.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Harry Hare < harry@africanedevelopment.org> wrote:
Hey Walu et al,
I do not expect the President to have answers to your questions below. You know the workings in government, what has been made is a high level policy pronouncement now it will be unto the technocrats like yourself to craft a working strategy and plan for this to work.
I expect that a team within the Ministry (may be include KIE and the ICT Integration Unit) will be set up to work on the detail of how to deliver this policy. And on your point "1", shouldn't we be targeting IT for Eduction and not IT education? Why would yu need an IT curriculum for class one?
Kindest Regards
Harry Hare
Director | African eDevelopment Resource Centre PO Box 49475 00100 | Nairobi, Kenya Tel +254 20 4041646 | Cel +254 725 650044
From: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Owino Jakakaeta <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Cio_Magazine Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
50 + 1 @ walu
Owino Jakakaeta Life is too SHORT to eat Green BANANAS!
------------------------------ *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *To:* "mpodhiambo@yahoo.com" <mpodhiambo@yahoo.com> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:40 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
@Yawe,
I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons.
1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.?
2. IT Teachers. Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
3. Examinations. It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this exam?
4. Security/Theft. If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about laptops hanging either in staffrooms or on standard 1 pupils? What about a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for other purposes? This is not far fetched since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off at market price.
5. Maintenance\Disposal program. Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and so our buget for laptops will double -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little returns to the taxpayer.
walu.
------------------------------ On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
Hi,
I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or would low power touchscreen tablets be more practical and appropriate? However .com that the two principles are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
Regards
PS. A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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participants (6)
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Dennis Kioko -
Edith Adera -
Evans Ikua -
Gilda Odera -
Mark Mwangi -
Walubengo J