Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: Invitation to the 2009 Kenya Internet GovernanceForum (Kenya IGF); 19th August 2009
Oops! looks like we need some conflict-resolution mechanism for KICTAnet Listers...lately something seems to be hurting this Alex of ours and he has gone ballistic on most lists. walu. --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Gakuru Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Gakuru Alex <[email protected]> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet] Invitation to the 2009 Kenya Internet GovernanceForum (Kenya IGF); 19th August 2009 To: "Evans J. Nyagah" <[email protected]> Cc: "ke-users" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:03 AM Evans,
I obtained the attached confidentially. Last year I was accused of speaking about 'bad things' (i.e. stated the local problems facing consumers) when there were international visitors around.... The ICT Consumers Association is NOT welcome to kictanet internet governance meetings...
Go for the 'Kenya IGF' if just wish 'fill-up the room' - Maybe the organisers have already written their international IGF speeches and decided who will read them? The way things are done in Kenya...... most dissapointing, the "New Generation" is perpetuation old system ways...
everyone, please understand and excuse my silence on this henceforth...
Alex
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Evans J. Nyagah<[email protected]> wrote:
Talking of ICANN, Alex who would regulate an east Africa domain, i.e. dot co.ea, et al? Do we have a body looking at this with the talk of ea federation?
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Walubengo of theirs:), I am just upset by the lie of life led by them elites. The real question is are you one of them sustaining the status-quo or one of us, deep down here at the trenches? at some point one decides where they belong and assert their position. regards Alex On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Walubengo J<[email protected]> wrote:
Oops!
looks like we need some conflict-resolution mechanism for KICTAnet Listers...lately something seems to be hurting this Alex of ours and he has gone ballistic on most lists.
walu.
--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Gakuru Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Gakuru Alex <[email protected]> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet] Invitation to the 2009 Kenya Internet GovernanceForum (Kenya IGF); 19th August 2009 To: "Evans J. Nyagah" <[email protected]> Cc: "ke-users" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:03 AM Evans,
I obtained the attached confidentially. Last year I was accused of speaking about 'bad things' (i.e. stated the local problems facing consumers) when there were international visitors around.... The ICT Consumers Association is NOT welcome to kictanet internet governance meetings...
Go for the 'Kenya IGF' if just wish 'fill-up the room' - Maybe the organisers have already written their international IGF speeches and decided who will read them? The way things are done in Kenya...... most dissapointing, the "New Generation" is perpetuation old system ways...
everyone, please understand and excuse my silence on this henceforth...
Alex
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Evans J. Nyagah<[email protected]> wrote:
Talking of ICANN, Alex who would regulate an east Africa domain, i.e. dot co.ea, et al? Do we have a body looking at this with the talk of ea federation?
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Alex, I feel like am trial here, but I can say that the only reason I am NEITHER in the "trenches" NOR with the "elites" is because I am in the Academics. From that perspective am obliged to dissect, process and disseminate the ICT issues as they are - even when it may hurt the so called elites and occasionally those in the "trenches" ;-) The moment I feel compelled to do otherwise, I will quickly join any of those who have chosen to "hibernate" and eventually disengage from KICTAnet accordingly. walu. --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Gakuru Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Gakuru Alex <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet] Invitation to the 2009 Kenya Internet GovernanceForum (Kenya IGF); 19th August 2009 To: "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> Cc: "Evans J. Nyagah" <[email protected]>, "ke-users" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 4:00 PM Walubengo of theirs:),
I am just upset by the lie of life led by them elites. The real question is are you one of them sustaining the status-quo or one of us, deep down here at the trenches? at some point one decides where they belong and assert their position.
regards
Alex
Oops!
looks like we need some conflict-resolution mechanism for KICTAnet Listers...lately something seems to be hurting
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Walubengo J<[email protected]> wrote: this Alex of ours and he has gone ballistic on most lists.
walu.
--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Gakuru Alex <[email protected]>
wrote:
From: Gakuru Alex <[email protected]> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet]
To: "Evans J. Nyagah" <[email protected]> Cc: "ke-users" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:03 AM Evans,
I obtained the attached confidentially. Last year I was accused of speaking about 'bad things' (i.e. stated the local
facing consumers) when there were international visitors around.... The ICT Consumers Association is NOT welcome to kictanet internet governance meetings...
Go for the 'Kenya IGF' if just wish 'fill-up the room' - Maybe the organisers have already written their international IGF speeches and decided who will read them? The way things are done in Kenya...... most dissapointing, the "New Generation" is
system ways...
everyone, please understand and excuse my silence on this henceforth...
Alex
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Evans J. Nyagah<[email protected]> wrote:
Talking of ICANN, Alex who would regulate an east Africa domain, i.e. dot co.ea, et al? Do we have a body looking at this with the talk of ea federation?
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Invitation to the 2009 Kenya Internet GovernanceForum (Kenya IGF); 19th August 2009 problems perpetuation old protection around
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Walubengo J<[email protected]> wrote:
I feel like am trial here
why should you? when just posted very pleasant remarks onlist:-
this Alex of ours and he has gone ballistic on most lists.
but I can say that the only reason I am NEITHER in the "trenches" NOR with the "elites" is because I am in the Academics. From that perspective am obliged to dissect, process and disseminate the ICT issues as they are - even when it may hurt the so called elites and occasionally those in the "trenches" ;-)
it's a matter of individual's decision.... it's your call.
The moment I feel compelled to do otherwise, I will quickly join any of those who have chosen to "hibernate" and eventually disengage from KICTAnet accordingly.
Excuse my history's poor record of running away from facing issues or challenges head on.
--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Gakuru Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
The real question is are you one of them sustaining the status-quo or one of us, deep down here at the trenches?
Children, Why does this sound like reggae to me?? Anyway, quality junk to help pass a slow friday afternoon. If I escape a timely response from Onyango Hatari, I will drink milk the whole night.
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Walubengo J