Re: [kictanet] Media Bill 2007.
Dear All I can't say that i have read the media bill,but the little that i have read in the media is lopsided and based on their side of the story.The only complains that i keep on hearing in the numerous talkshows that are aired on the TV only highlights the point that the coposition of the media council is not good or is made up of people who are not of that proffession.They dont come up to say anything else about the various clauses which will hinder their progress or how the government is trying to oppress them,am not trying to say that its not there but those are the things which should be highlighted for us to be able to support their arguments well.One funny thing that came out in one of those talkshows is that the KUJ was not with the media owners and that the bill would be very good for the them(KUJ).i believe that the bringing in of models and comedians as journalist has set the precedence for the government to bring in non-media guys to regulate the media,we should not kill this bill just because the owners of the media are not happy,their first obligation is to their shareholders and not to the general public.
----- Original Message ----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke To: yussuf@lawyer.com Subject: [kictanet] Media Bill 2007. Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:03:12 +0300 (EAT)
Dear All, If you read today's papers, you have everything to worry. It is being alledged that the ICT Bill is worse than the Media Bill and That Government did not consult. I know you all participated in many ICT fora discussing just what is being criticised. After the first reading we have another go at it but not to kill it at inception.
I need not tell anyone that this Bill will unlock the ICT potential in this country. Where were these people when you sacrificed your time to have a just legislation in place?
On Broadcasting, Kenya has one of the most liberal laws in place. We have tried to have a frequency in Britain, China, the USA on reciprical relations in vain. We toned down stakeholder's requirement on restrictive cross media ownership by adopting South Africa Model but these people want nothing but jungle laws in a democratic country.
Since you access internet, please check, there is no country in the world that does not have some sort of media regulation. In fact opponents of these Bills should be asked to name at least one country that has no regulation in media.
Regards
Ndemo.
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if what happened during the referendum is anything to go by, then we should read this bill, not wait for somebody else to tell us what it says, (media bill and KCA (amendment) bills were sent to the list last week) this is underlined by the fact that the media is only debating what is perceived to be wrong and does not give what else is right in the bill, the debate between KUJ and MOA and the support of opposing views underscores the unspoken war between journalists and the media owners, the struggle is there, there are unspoken feelings, but as long as union officials work in the media house, such challenges and problems are not spoken of, so i suggest we read the bill then discuss it in a more balanced way, the views are welcome regards ibrahim yussuf <yussuf@lawyer.com> wrote: Dear All I can't say that i have read the media bill,but the little that i have read in the media is lopsided and based on their side of the story.The only complains that i keep on hearing in the numerous talkshows that are aired on the TV only highlights the point that the coposition of the media council is not good or is made up of people who are not of that proffession.They dont come up to say anything else about the various clauses which will hinder their progress or how the government is trying to oppress them,am not trying to say that its not there but those are the things which should be highlighted for us to be able to support their arguments well.One funny thing that came out in one of those talkshows is that the KUJ was not with the media owners and that the bill would be very good for the them(KUJ).i believe that the bringing in of models and comedians as journalist has set the precedence for the government to bring in non-media guys to regulate the media,we should not kill this bill just because the owners of the media are not happy,their first obligation is to their shareholders and not to the general public.
----- Original Message ----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke To: yussuf@lawyer.com Subject: [kictanet] Media Bill 2007. Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:03:12 +0300 (EAT)
Dear All, If you read today's papers, you have everything to worry. It is being alledged that the ICT Bill is worse than the Media Bill and That Government did not consult. I know you all participated in many ICT fora discussing just what is being criticised. After the first reading we have another go at it but not to kill it at inception.
I need not tell anyone that this Bill will unlock the ICT potential in this country. Where were these people when you sacrificed your time to have a just legislation in place?
On Broadcasting, Kenya has one of the most liberal laws in place. We have tried to have a frequency in Britain, China, the USA on reciprical relations in vain. We toned down stakeholder's requirement on restrictive cross media ownership by adopting South Africa Model but these people want nothing but jungle laws in a democratic country.
Since you access internet, please check, there is no country in the world that does not have some sort of media regulation. In fact opponents of these Bills should be asked to name at least one country that has no regulation in media.
Regards
Ndemo.
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Becky, a conflict resolution view. Disputants get down talking not dig any deeper into in their respective trenches, take home negotiated agreements. <http://www.beyondintractability.org/essay/batna/> Otherwise, "Those who dig ideological trenches on this issue are making people nervous and therefore harming the economy," Gerhard Schroeder on ending DaimlerChrysler dispute over cost cuts (in 2004) Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku@yahoo.com> wrote: if what happened during the referendum is anything to go by, then we should read this bill, not wait for somebody else to tell us what it says, (media bill and KCA (amendment) bills were sent to the list last week) this is underlined by the fact that the media is only debating what is perceived to be wrong and does not give what else is right in the bill, the debate between KUJ and MOA and the support of opposing views underscores the unspoken war between journalists and the media owners, the struggle is there, there are unspoken feelings, but as long as union officials work in the media house, such challenges and problems are not spoken of, so i suggest we read the bill then discuss it in a more balanced way, the views are welcome regards ibrahim yussuf <yussuf@lawyer.com> wrote: Dear All I can't say that i have read the media bill,but the little that i have read in the media is lopsided and based on their side of the story.The only complains that i keep on hearing in the numerous talkshows that are aired on the TV only highlights the point that the coposition of the media council is not good or is made up of people who are not of that proffession.They dont come up to say anything else about the various clauses which will hinder their progress or how the government is trying to oppress them,am not trying to say that its not there but those are the things which should be highlighted for us to be able to support their arguments well.One funny thing that came out in one of those talkshows is that the KUJ was not with the media owners and that the bill would be very good for the them(KUJ).i believe that the bringing in of models and comedians as journalist has set the precedence for the government to bring in non-media guys to regulate the media,we should not kill this bill just because the owners of the media are not happy,their first obligation is to their shareholders and not to the general public.
----- Original Message ----- From: bitange@jambo.co.ke To: yussuf@lawyer.com Subject: [kictanet] Media Bill 2007. Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:03:12 +0300 (EAT)
Dear All, If you read today's papers, you have everything to worry. It is being alledged that the ICT Bill is worse than the Media Bill and That Government did not consult. I know you all participated in many ICT fora discussing just what is being criticised. After the first reading we have another go at it but not to kill it at inception.
I need not tell anyone that this Bill will unlock the ICT potential in this country. Where were these people when you sacrificed your time to have a just legislation in place?
On Broadcasting, Kenya has one of the most liberal laws in place. We have tried to have a frequency in Britain, China, the USA on reciprical relations in vain. We toned down stakeholder's requirement on restrictive cross media ownership by adopting South Africa Model but these people want nothing but jungle laws in a democratic country.
Since you access internet, please check, there is no country in the world that does not have some sort of media regulation. In fact opponents of these Bills should be asked to name at least one country that has no regulation in media.
Regards
Ndemo.
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Hi Ibrahim, Pualine here. How sthe going.. congrats ( i saw online that you are nominated with ODM ticket for kamukuji) I wish ya al the best. i ain the ul last 3 months and back home end of Dec just before the elections. I am implementig a telecomproject at the Commonwealth here in London. I wsh you well. We need young turks in parliament!! -- Pauline Muthigani Telecom/ ICT Strategy Analyst Nordic Consulting P.O Box 61191, 00200 Nairobi-Kenya Tel: 254 20 2096227 Cell: 254 722614771, 0733642424 Fax: 254 202731194
Hi all, I posted a mail meant for Ibrahim Yussuf on the forum by mistake.. apologies to you all, rgds, Pauline
Hi Ibrahim, Pualine here. How sthe going.. congrats ( i saw online that you are nominated with ODM ticket for kamukunji) I wish ya all the best. I have been here last 3 months and back home end of Dec just before the elections. I am implementing a telecom project at the Commonwealth here in London. I wsh you well. We need young turks in parliament!!
-- Pauline Muthigani Telecom/ ICT Strategy Analyst Nordic Consulting P.O Box 61191, 00200 Nairobi-Kenya Tel: 254 20 2096227 Cell: 254 722614771, 0733642424 Fax: 254 202731194
-- Pauline Muthigani Telecom/ ICT Strategy Analyst Nordic Consulting P.O Box 61191, 00200 Nairobi-Kenya Tel: 254 20 2096227 Cell: 254 722614771, 0733642424 Fax: 254 202731194
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