Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist
Dear listers, A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog" This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere? *vexed* Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/*
Ory, The culture of shortcuts, if only you had been consulted. Best Regards On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/*
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Ory Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG? Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. HOWEVER, you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that. RgdsGG Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Dear listers, A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog" This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere? *vexed* Ory I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
kictanet is an open forum, view-able by anybody in the planet who has the capacity, and all emails are accessible by everybody. So where is the harm? On 11 October 2012 13:25, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. *HOWEVER,* you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/*
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Kivuva The harm is that Kictanet is a mailing list which you subscribe to hence you have given explicit permission to carry your emails. Unless there is fine print somewhere that says otherwise which I doubt. Yesterday during the Intermediary Liability breakfast some of these issues were alluded to. I think it is wrong for another medium to pick it up and display your personal email address in a forum that you didn't give it permission to do. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPad On Oct 11, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
kictanet is an open forum, view-able by anybody in the planet who has the capacity, and all emails are accessible by everybody.
So where is the harm?
On 11 October 2012 13:25, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. HOWEVER, you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/
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Ali, Wouldn't anyone with Internet access still see the email address anyway? (As KICTANet is public?) On 11/10/2012, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Kivuva
The harm is that Kictanet is a mailing list which you subscribe to hence you have given explicit permission to carry your emails. Unless there is fine print somewhere that says otherwise which I doubt.
Yesterday during the Intermediary Liability breakfast some of these issues were alluded to. I think it is wrong for another medium to pick it up and display your personal email address in a forum that you didn't give it permission to do.
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 11, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
kictanet is an open forum, view-able by anybody in the planet who has the capacity, and all emails are accessible by everybody.
So where is the harm?
On 11 October 2012 13:25, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. HOWEVER, you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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True. Though at the risk of sounding pedantic its the principle of the matter.. Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:36 PM, "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)" <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali, Wouldn't anyone with Internet access still see the email address anyway? (As KICTANet is public?)
On 11/10/2012, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Kivuva
The harm is that Kictanet is a mailing list which you subscribe to hence you have given explicit permission to carry your emails. Unless there is fine print somewhere that says otherwise which I doubt.
Yesterday during the Intermediary Liability breakfast some of these issues were alluded to. I think it is wrong for another medium to pick it up and display your personal email address in a forum that you didn't give it permission to do.
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 11, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
kictanet is an open forum, view-able by anybody in the planet who has the capacity, and all emails are accessible by everybody.
So where is the harm?
On 11 October 2012 13:25, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. HOWEVER, you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/
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-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh www.transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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Let me clarify with the person who sent it to me. Ory On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. *HOWEVER,* you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/*
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Blog of the week is a columnett in the Business Daily that features interesting blogs as they appeared on the Net...it usually runs on Mondays (I think) and it seems not to be on the online paper. Sometime back Kachwanya of Bloggers Association was also featured. See http://www.kachwanya.com/business-daily-blog-of-the-week-kachwanya-com/ Seems like a collection of stories from the public domain.... On 11/10/2012, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me clarify with the person who sent it to me.
Ory
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. *HOWEVER,* you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/*
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-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu Website: http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu
Thanks Grace. My issue - there's a big difference between including a link to a Blog / Blog post e.g. Kachwanya's - and calling comments on a discussion list a blog. Kivuva, re the harm - its one thing if you search the Kictanet archives online or come across them and see my comments in context of a discussion thread etc. I'm well aware that this is not a private forum Cutting and pasting them into a print publication without context / checking with me is poor journalism, at best. Ory On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>wrote:
Blog of the week is a columnett in the Business Daily that features interesting blogs as they appeared on the Net...it usually runs on Mondays (I think) and it seems not to be on the online paper.
Sometime back Kachwanya of Bloggers Association was also featured. See http://www.kachwanya.com/business-daily-blog-of-the-week-kachwanya-com/
Seems like a collection of stories from the public domain....
Let me clarify with the person who sent it to me.
Ory
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. *HOWEVER,* you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in
On 11/10/2012, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote: the
Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/*
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Ory I totally agree with your sentiments on this. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPad On Oct 11, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace.
My issue - there's a big difference between including a link to a Blog / Blog post e.g. Kachwanya's - and calling comments on a discussion list a blog.
Kivuva, re the harm - its one thing if you search the Kictanet archives online or come across them and see my comments in context of a discussion thread etc. I'm well aware that this is not a private forum
Cutting and pasting them into a print publication without context / checking with me is poor journalism, at best.
Ory
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Blog of the week is a columnett in the Business Daily that features interesting blogs as they appeared on the Net...it usually runs on Mondays (I think) and it seems not to be on the online paper.
Sometime back Kachwanya of Bloggers Association was also featured. See http://www.kachwanya.com/business-daily-blog-of-the-week-kachwanya-com/
Seems like a collection of stories from the public domain....
On 11/10/2012, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me clarify with the person who sent it to me.
Ory
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. *HOWEVER,* you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in the Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/*
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Hi Ory, Unfortunately many in Kenya. Especially the media as well as Govt have yet to be schooled on internet terminology. Many refer to KICTANET and other mailing lists as a blog - and have little or no idea of the etiquette issues surrounding the same. The error in this case, in my view is that whoever decided to put that in their publication ought to have sought your consent first of all and also enquired as to attribution - do you want to have your personal email published, do you want to have your full name, plus official work title or should it be attributed to you in your personal capacity - do you want any attribution at all or would you rather remain anonymous? Our media folk still have a lot of work to do in terms of styling up - and worst of all, this passed some editors desk and he gave consent without first of all checking on whether all the prerequisites on attribution have been fulfilled. Pole sana, Mblayo [image: logo] *Brian Munyao Longwe* | Mobile: 254715964281 http://mashilingi.blogspot.com <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe Want a signature like mine? <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> Click here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Grace.
My issue - there's a big difference between including a link to a Blog / Blog post e.g. Kachwanya's - and calling comments on a discussion list a blog.
Kivuva, re the harm - its one thing if you search the Kictanet archives online or come across them and see my comments in context of a discussion thread etc. I'm well aware that this is not a private forum
Cutting and pasting them into a print publication without context / checking with me is poor journalism, at best.
Ory
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com
wrote:
Blog of the week is a columnett in the Business Daily that features interesting blogs as they appeared on the Net...it usually runs on Mondays (I think) and it seems not to be on the online paper.
Sometime back Kachwanya of Bloggers Association was also featured. See http://www.kachwanya.com/business-daily-blog-of-the-week-kachwanya-com/
Seems like a collection of stories from the public domain....
Let me clarify with the person who sent it to me.
Ory
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:
Ory
Could kindly clarify. Is this blog in the Business Daily of NMG?
Usually newspapers carry email addresses of authors as a sign of good faith. *HOWEVER,* you should have been informed that the paper intended to carry your comments for you to indicate if you were okay with that.
Rgds GG
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:36:51 +0200 From: ookolloh@gmail.com Subject: [kictanet] Abuse of KICTANET forum by Biz.Daily journalist CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear listers,
A friend in Nairobi just emailed me this print article (attached) in
On 11/10/2012, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh@gmail.com> wrote: the
Biz Daily paper where my comments on the ETNO proposal last week are featured as the "blog of the week" and my personal email address included as the "title of the blog"
This is an outrageous abuse of this forum where the discussion is often open and insightful - do people now have to worry that their comments on Kictanet will be passed off as an article somewhere?
*vexed*
Ory *I try to keep my emails short and to the point: http://emailcharter.org/*
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Listers, I very much know that my post today is not directly ICT but its implications have a great bearing on the decisions we make about our future development in ICT. Page 19 of the Star of Thursday, October 11th, carried a story on Water Hyacinth titled Water hyacinth project threatened by court order. This is apparently a donor funded project in its phase two under Lake Victoria Environmental Management Project (LVEMP). LVEMP II is an eight-year US$254 million (Ksh. 2.1 billion) old regional project being implemented in the five East African Community partner states says the article. Objectives of the project include: improving collaborative management of trans-boundary natural resources of Lake Victoria basin as well as reduce environmental stress in the targeted pollution hotspots and selected degraded sub-catchment areas as a way of improving the livelihoods of communities who depend on the lake basins resources. One will hope that the project is supposed to physically remove water hyacinth from the lake to enable the people access the resources from the lake. However, in the past eight years the spread of this water menace has more than tripled and this is what prompted me we to re-examine the objectives as stated. If these objectives were to be re-stated in simplified English, the real meaning could be to help citizens of East Africa understand how to collaborate and manage their resources as well as reduce their stress. The project therefore has nothing to do with water hyacinth and hence the reason why the people are fighting over it. If the donor language were to be simpler, they would have thought about project sustainability in which case we did not need all the resources that is at the disposal of the fighting citizens. In my view we needed only US$50 (US$10 million for each country) to set up an organic fertilizer factory. Hyacinth has been found to be a good ingredient for organic fertilizer. Just recently I wrote a blog how soil nutrients have been depleted in densely populated districts with excessive land sub-divisions. Studies also show productivity levels dropping significantly that our food security and safety is at its worst threat. Further, chemical fertilizer may be poisoning our ground water and may be likely the cause of increased cancer cases in the region. There is greater urgency than ever before that we exploit every opportunity for developing organic fertilizer like hyacinth that would improve on productivity, ensure sustainable development and reduce its impact on our water resources. Our problems would only be solved by us and as such foreign interventions will not always be a universal remedy to our predicament. Ndemo.
Dr. Ndemo, Hyacinth has become a multibillion dollar industry like Kibera and Mathate slums. Anybody who tries to eradicate it shall be lynched. On 11/10/2012, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, I very much know that my post today is not directly ICT but its implications have a great bearing on the decisions we make about our future development in ICT.
Page 19 of the Star of Thursday, October 11th, carried a story on Water Hyacinth titled “Water hyacinth project threatened by court order”. This is apparently a donor funded project in its phase two under Lake Victoria Environmental Management Project (LVEMP).
LVEMP II is an eight-year US$254 million (Ksh. 2.1 billion) old regional project being implemented in the five East African Community partner states says the article. Objectives of the project include: improving “collaborative management of trans-boundary natural resources of Lake Victoria basin” as well as “reduce environmental stress in the targeted pollution hotspots and selected degraded sub-catchment areas as a way of improving the livelihoods of communities who depend on the lake basin’s resources”.
One will hope that the project is supposed to physically remove water hyacinth from the lake to enable the people access the resources from the lake. However, in the past eight years the spread of this water menace has more than tripled and this is what prompted me we to re-examine the objectives as stated. If these objectives were to be re-stated in simplified English, the real meaning could be to help citizens of East Africa understand how to collaborate and manage their resources as well as reduce their stress. The project therefore has nothing to do with water hyacinth and hence the reason why the people are fighting over it.
If the donor language were to be simpler, they would have thought about project sustainability in which case we did not need all the resources that is at the disposal of the fighting citizens. In my view we needed only US$50 (US$10 million for each country) to set up an organic fertilizer factory. Hyacinth has been found to be a good ingredient for organic fertilizer. Just recently I wrote a blog how soil nutrients have been depleted in densely populated districts with excessive land sub-divisions. Studies also show productivity levels dropping significantly that our food security and safety is at its worst threat.
Further, chemical fertilizer may be poisoning our ground water and may be likely the cause of increased cancer cases in the region. There is greater urgency than ever before that we exploit every opportunity for developing organic fertilizer like hyacinth that would improve on productivity, ensure sustainable development and reduce its impact on our water resources. Our problems would only be solved by us and as such foreign interventions will not always be a universal remedy to our predicament.
Ndemo.
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Daktari, if I had my way I would invite you to Laikipia and amke you Governor. We need someone with ideas and a good development agenda out there. Consider Yourself invited. :-)
Daktari, if I had my way I would invite you to Laikipia and make you Governor. We need someone with ideas and a good development agenda out there. Consider Yourself invited. :-)
Daktari, Some very deep insights right there. A couple of problems though: 1. Any attempt to encroach on the very lucrative chemical fertilizer business will be met with very stiff resistance from the business ecosystems behind the fertilizer imports - may even lead to diplomatic problems with the countries where these fertilizers come from. 2. Job creation around the lake basin and (eventually) wealth creation on the scale at which is possible based on your recommendations to set up Hyacinth processsing facilities that will produce organic fertilizer are not in line with the objectives of donors who (seemingly) want to have places where they can deploy their "development" dollars These kinds of solutions and interventions can only be home-grown. What is $10 million for one or two of our regions mobile operators - if it will create a larger, paying market by creating employment and wealth in these areas? We do not need to go and look for money outside. We do not even need to ask any of the five EAC countries governments for money to do this. All we need is a vision and the dedication and commitment to see such an undertaking come to the fore. Nonetheless, I guess we are all rather busy doing other things to put bread on our tables.... Best regards, Mblayo [image: logo] *Brian Munyao Longwe* | Mobile: 254715964281 http://mashilingi.blogspot.com <http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/brianmunyao> <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/blongwe> <http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> LinkedIn<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/brian-munyao-longwe/0/32/254> Contact me: [image: Skype] blongwe Want a signature like mine? <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> Click here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=16&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_16> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, I very much know that my post today is not directly ICT but its implications have a great bearing on the decisions we make about our future development in ICT.
Page 19 of the Star of Thursday, October 11th, carried a story on Water Hyacinth titled “Water hyacinth project threatened by court order”. This is apparently a donor funded project in its phase two under Lake Victoria Environmental Management Project (LVEMP).
LVEMP II is an eight-year US$254 million (Ksh. 2.1 billion) old regional project being implemented in the five East African Community partner states says the article. Objectives of the project include: improving “collaborative management of trans-boundary natural resources of Lake Victoria basin” as well as “reduce environmental stress in the targeted pollution hotspots and selected degraded sub-catchment areas as a way of improving the livelihoods of communities who depend on the lake basin’s resources”.
One will hope that the project is supposed to physically remove water hyacinth from the lake to enable the people access the resources from the lake. However, in the past eight years the spread of this water menace has more than tripled and this is what prompted me we to re-examine the objectives as stated. If these objectives were to be re-stated in simplified English, the real meaning could be to help citizens of East Africa understand how to collaborate and manage their resources as well as reduce their stress. The project therefore has nothing to do with water hyacinth and hence the reason why the people are fighting over it.
If the donor language were to be simpler, they would have thought about project sustainability in which case we did not need all the resources that is at the disposal of the fighting citizens. In my view we needed only US$50 (US$10 million for each country) to set up an organic fertilizer factory. Hyacinth has been found to be a good ingredient for organic fertilizer. Just recently I wrote a blog how soil nutrients have been depleted in densely populated districts with excessive land sub-divisions. Studies also show productivity levels dropping significantly that our food security and safety is at its worst threat.
Further, chemical fertilizer may be poisoning our ground water and may be likely the cause of increased cancer cases in the region. There is greater urgency than ever before that we exploit every opportunity for developing organic fertilizer like hyacinth that would improve on productivity, ensure sustainable development and reduce its impact on our water resources. Our problems would only be solved by us and as such foreign interventions will not always be a universal remedy to our predicament.
Ndemo.
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Kenya Investment Authority has been advertising the opportunity for manufacture of fertilizer http://www.investmentkenya.com/opportunities/manufacturing I hope they are aware of this opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, I very much know that my post today is not directly ICT but its implications have a great bearing on the decisions we make about our future development in ICT.
Page 19 of the Star of Thursday, October 11th, carried a story on Water Hyacinth titled “Water hyacinth project threatened by court order”. This is apparently a donor funded project in its phase two under Lake Victoria Environmental Management Project (LVEMP).
LVEMP II is an eight-year US$254 million (Ksh. 2.1 billion) old regional project being implemented in the five East African Community partner states says the article. Objectives of the project include: improving “collaborative management of trans-boundary natural resources of Lake Victoria basin” as well as “reduce environmental stress in the targeted pollution hotspots and selected degraded sub-catchment areas as a way of improving the livelihoods of communities who depend on the lake basin’s resources”.
One will hope that the project is supposed to physically remove water hyacinth from the lake to enable the people access the resources from the lake. However, in the past eight years the spread of this water menace has more than tripled and this is what prompted me we to re-examine the objectives as stated. If these objectives were to be re-stated in simplified English, the real meaning could be to help citizens of East Africa understand how to collaborate and manage their resources as well as reduce their stress. The project therefore has nothing to do with water hyacinth and hence the reason why the people are fighting over it.
If the donor language were to be simpler, they would have thought about project sustainability in which case we did not need all the resources that is at the disposal of the fighting citizens. In my view we needed only US$50 (US$10 million for each country) to set up an organic fertilizer factory. Hyacinth has been found to be a good ingredient for organic fertilizer. Just recently I wrote a blog how soil nutrients have been depleted in densely populated districts with excessive land sub-divisions. Studies also show productivity levels dropping significantly that our food security and safety is at its worst threat.
Further, chemical fertilizer may be poisoning our ground water and may be likely the cause of increased cancer cases in the region. There is greater urgency than ever before that we exploit every opportunity for developing organic fertilizer like hyacinth that would improve on productivity, ensure sustainable development and reduce its impact on our water resources. Our problems would only be solved by us and as such foreign interventions will not always be a universal remedy to our predicament.
Ndemo.
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Hey All, Dr. Ndemo has an acute eye of spotting killer plans that have potential. Some time back there was a feature on the news of a lady making chairs out of woven hyacinth fibers but that just died off. Why the local moguls and their attendant overlords over in nairobi did not push for market in the govt offices I have no idea. The opportunities are uncountable but we all go to do CPAs and get degrees with little intention of aplying the academics. I believe the German way of doing thing is superior. have people specialize very early in their life befor committing to university programs that add little to their value and employability. Apprenticeship and for those that want to train further go to university. Killing our polytechnics and colleges is detrimental to all. Hyacinth is currently a problem. Why not turn it into a resource? On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
Kenya Investment Authority has been advertising the opportunity for manufacture of fertilizer http://www.investmentkenya.com/opportunities/manufacturing
I hope they are aware of this opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:37 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Listers, I very much know that my post today is not directly ICT but its implications have a great bearing on the decisions we make about our future development in ICT.
Page 19 of the Star of Thursday, October 11th, carried a story on Water Hyacinth titled “Water hyacinth project threatened by court order”. This is apparently a donor funded project in its phase two under Lake Victoria Environmental Management Project (LVEMP).
LVEMP II is an eight-year US$254 million (Ksh. 2.1 billion) old regional project being implemented in the five East African Community partner states says the article. Objectives of the project include: improving “collaborative management of trans-boundary natural resources of Lake Victoria basin” as well as “reduce environmental stress in the targeted pollution hotspots and selected degraded sub-catchment areas as a way of improving the livelihoods of communities who depend on the lake basin’s resources”.
One will hope that the project is supposed to physically remove water hyacinth from the lake to enable the people access the resources from the lake. However, in the past eight years the spread of this water menace has more than tripled and this is what prompted me we to re-examine the objectives as stated. If these objectives were to be re-stated in simplified English, the real meaning could be to help citizens of East Africa understand how to collaborate and manage their resources as well as reduce their stress. The project therefore has nothing to do with water hyacinth and hence the reason why the people are fighting over it.
If the donor language were to be simpler, they would have thought about project sustainability in which case we did not need all the resources that is at the disposal of the fighting citizens. In my view we needed only US$50 (US$10 million for each country) to set up an organic fertilizer factory. Hyacinth has been found to be a good ingredient for organic fertilizer. Just recently I wrote a blog how soil nutrients have been depleted in densely populated districts with excessive land sub-divisions. Studies also show productivity levels dropping significantly that our food security and safety is at its worst threat.
Further, chemical fertilizer may be poisoning our ground water and may be likely the cause of increased cancer cases in the region. There is greater urgency than ever before that we exploit every opportunity for developing organic fertilizer like hyacinth that would improve on productivity, ensure sustainable development and reduce its impact on our water resources. Our problems would only be solved by us and as such foreign interventions will not always be a universal remedy to our predicament.
Ndemo.
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Ali Hussein -
Barrack Otieno -
bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Dorcas Muthoni -
Grace Githaiga -
Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
Kivuva -
Mark Mwangi -
Ory Okolloh -
Peter Wakaba