Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Rachel Statistics are an interesting conundrum. What most Kenyans experience when they are out in the counties belies this report. For example when I'm my home counties of Kilifi and Lamu I simply CANNOT get connectivity of maana 6 kms from the County Headquarters. In Lamu, the County HQ is on intermittent bundles from Safaricom. Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together. I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please.. Considering that most government services are now online how do we propose someone in Pokot, Wajir or Marsabit to use these services if someone in Nairobi is finding it a major challenge to access the ecitizen portal? The USF has alot to answer for and these statistics do nothing for me. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Yes Kivuva, that is correct. The coverage in the report is population-based, but the requirement for election coverage was land-based because the polling stations are spread across locations. The land -based coverage stands at 45%. Hope this helps you contextualize the statistics.
Regards,
Rachel
On 2/26/18, 5:23 PM, "lordmwesh@gmail.com on behalf of Mwendwa Kivuva" <lordmwesh@gmail.com on behalf of Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
This is great feedback Rachel, and avoids misreprepresentation.
I digress a little, but some of these statistics come to haunt CA during the August elections when the State declared that we did not have coverage for electronic tranmission of elections.
"To support the foregoing, the Authority in May 2016 concluded a Study on ICTs Access Gaps which established that population coverage in Kenya for 2G and 3G stands at 94.4% and 78% respectively, while the land coverage for 2G and 3G is at 45% and 17% respectively for all the three Mobile Network Operators i.e Safaricom (K) Limited, Airtel (K) Limited and Telkom Kenya Limited." ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
Hello listers,
The narrative that CA has just set aside a budget of Ksh. 85 million to link remote areas with mobile voice is erroneous and misleading. The Universal Service Fund is a huge programme whose activities are guided by detailed research. A lot has been achieved so far in line with the mandate given to CA by the Law.
As a reminder, the Kenya Information Communications Amendment Act of 2009 (KICA 2009) created the Universal Service Fund (USF) whose objective is to support widespread access to ICTs including related human capacity building and technological innovations in the ICT sector. The Act mandates the Communication Authority of Kenya (CA) with the administrative and management responsibility of promoting universal access and services with respect to the provision of communication services in Kenya.
The USF is expected to provide incentives for infrastructure roll-out in unserved and underserved areas. To support the foregoing, the Authority in May 2016 concluded a Study on ICTs Access Gaps which established that population coverage in Kenya for 2G and 3G stands at 94.4% and 78% respectively, while the land coverage for 2G and 3G is at 45% and 17% respectively for all the three Mobile Network Operators i.e Safaricom (K) Limited, Airtel (K) Limited and Telkom Kenya Limited.
To close the identified gaps in the different service areas, Authority has developed a 5-year USF Implemetation Strategy to guide the activities of the Fund for the next five years FY 2017/18 to FY2022/23. One of the five strategic focus area is basic voice infrastructure program whose objective is to facilitate development of basic mobile infrastructure to the whole country Turkana and Marsabit Counties included.
The ICTs Access Gaps study using GIS and Access Gap Model methodology identified 348 sub-locations, which were established to meet the critical performance criteria suited for “smart subsidies”, meaning that the projects would be sustainable. In the FY 2017/18, the Access Gaps Study prioritized the closing of gaps in 202 prime sub-locations, covering an unserved population of approximately 700,000 persons. The project design took into consideration the 2016/18 licence obligations of Safaricom and Airtel for network expansion, together with which, the project targeted reducing the coverage gap of basic voice services from 5.6% of the population to 2.8% by 2018.
Update on the Voice Infrastructure Projects
The voice infrastructure projects were developed and tendered in the FY 2017/18 and as single or multiple bidding lots to Network Facility Providers (NFP) Tier 1. The 202 sub-locations were tendered in 105 bidding lots. The licensed mobile network operators were invited to bid competitively for as many or few of the Lots as of interest to them.
The Authority has awarded contracts to Safaricom and Telkom Kenya to close the voice gaps in 78 sub-locations at a cost of Kshs 1.245 Billion. Among the beneficiary counties in Kenya are Turkana, Samburu, West Pokot, Baringo, Marsabit, Isiolo, Wajir, Mandera, Garissa, Tana River, Kwale, Kajiado and Narok.
The Education Broadband Connectivity Project
Within the current FY 2017/18, the Authority awarded the Education broadband contract to three Tier 2 operators, namely;
1) Ms. Xtranet Communications Limited 284 schools
2) Ms. Commcarrier Satellite Services 291 schools
3) Ms. Liquid Telecommunications Ltd 321 schools
Status of Implementation of the Education Broadband Connectivity Project
To date, the Authority through the contracted firms, has successfully installed broadband connectivity in 843 (94%) of the expected 896 beneficiary schools. The contractors have given strong indication that the remaining 53 schools will be fully connected before end of February 2018. The total contract amount for the Education broadband project is Kshs 837 million.
We hope that this helps to put the fund implementation into perspective. As always, we remain available to respond to any enquiries. We shall be having a stakeholder briefing soon and KICTANET listers as our stakeholders, shall be invited to the forum.
Regards,
Rachel Alwala Assistant Director/Communications and External Affairs Communications Authority of Kenya PO Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
Tel: +254 703042000 Email: alwala@ca.go.ke
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Dear listers,
I hear the conversation going on with respect to the subject matter. There are many developments and very shortly, before COB , I will be posting the implementation status for your information and understanding. Sometimes when we share information, it is picked in piecemeal and potentially distorted. That seems to have been the case in this particular respect.
Regards,
Rachel
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Yes, certainly annual progress reports would be helpful From:Barrack Otieno To:KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Cc:Adam Lane Date:2018-02-26 14:46:38 Subject:Re: [kictanet] CA’s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Hi Adam,
In light of the intense criticism the USF board has received, it needs to come out strongly and clarify what it has achieved unless it is not independent as we are made to beleive.
Regards
On 2/26/18, Adam Lane via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I believe the fund already connected about 70 rural sites (as well as several hundred schools) last year so has begun to make progress. From:Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet To:Adam Lane Cc:Mwendwa Kivuva Date:2018-02-26 14:36:09 Subject:Re: [kictanet] CA’s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Ksh85m is too little too late from a fund that has collected billions. Running a single BTS is resourse intensive. It requires physical security, generators, power lines, road access, human resource ... and much more.
Spending the USF on benchmarking trips and allowances seems the modus operandi of this board. For the upteenth time, I also join Ali's call for the board to be disbanded immediately. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
On 26 February 2018 at 08:09, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Victor
As they say in accounting terms - That’s not even a rounding error in the scheme of things.
CA needs to be more creative than this. Here’s a thought:-
Disband the moribund USF Board and get people who are independent, forward thinking and unafraid to do the right thing.
Let’s stop pussyfooting around such a big issue when a large swath of this country is being disenfranchised by lack of connectivity while we continue to pat ourselves in the back as the ‘Silicon Savannah’.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On 26 Feb 2018, at 7:36 AM, Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) will spend millions to build infrastructure to connect remote villages without mobile voice coverage following an order by President Uhuru Kenyatta to surrender unspent billions to the police.
Mr Kenyatta said the authority had nothing to show for the billions of shillings it has collected for a fund established to support infrastructure in remote areas dubbed the Universal Service Fund (USF).
Now, CA has announced plans to spend Sh85 million in connecting 23,000 residents in six sub-locations in Baringo County to mobile voice coverage.
85m only.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/CA-s-Sh85m-plan-to-
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Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-) You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population. As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
Hi Hussein/Kivuva, These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF. Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day. Regards, Rachel From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke<mailto:alwala@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com<mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together. I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please.. Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-) You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population. As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
Thank you Rachel for the clarification on ICT indicators. Also to reiterate that development is primarily about people not land mass and therefore if an area has more elephants than people then it would not get the same priority as another similar area with higher human population. John Kariuki. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 20:02, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Domain Registration sponsored by www.eacdirectory.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kariuki_jn%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Rachel Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones? Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that? Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Hussein/Kivuva,
These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF.
Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with
non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-)
You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population.
As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
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Hi Ali, This is all factual. I am sure you appreciate evidence-based decisions. Just as it is in the commercial world, so is it in the regulatory space too. We cannot do away with statistics. We must measure development in the sector and use that information to draw strategies for the future. Investors too share this opinion. Let us join hands to build our country and not trash the far we have come. By the way the amount of money required to fill all the communication gaps is way much more than there is in the kitty. But certainly as the regulator we respect the opinions of all stakeholders. Regards, Rachel From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Cc: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke<mailto:alwala@ca.go.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice Rachel Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones? Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that? Regards Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Hi Hussein/Kivuva, These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF. Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day. Regards, Rachel From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke<mailto:alwala@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com<mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together. I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please.. Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-) You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population. As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. 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@Ali, I don't think there is a space within 10 Kilometres of Kilifi county HQ, that does not have Safaricom LTE. :-) leave alone Voice. That said, We need CA to be more responsive in building the industry as a whole, and not just the two or three main operators. Regards, Collins Areba, Kilifi, Kenya. Tel: +*254 707 750 788 */ *0731750788* Twitter: @arebacollins. Skype: arebacollins On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
This is all factual. I am sure you appreciate evidence-based decisions. Just as it is in the commercial world, so is it in the regulatory space too. We cannot do away with statistics. We must measure development in the sector and use that information to draw strategies for the future. Investors too share this opinion. Let us join hands to build our country and not trash the far we have come. By the way the amount of money required to fill all the communication gaps is way much more than there is in the kitty. But certainly as the regulator we respect the opinions of all stakeholders.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Rachel
Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones?
Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Hussein/Kivuva,
These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF.
Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with
non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-)
You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population.
As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
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Collins I know you are based in Kilifi. I challenge you to go to Mtondia which is 6kms from the County HQ and report back. Happy to buy you lunch if I’m wrong. :-) Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 26 Feb 2018, at 11:37 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ali,
I don't think there is a space within 10 Kilometres of Kilifi county HQ, that does not have Safaricom LTE. :-) leave alone Voice.
That said, We need CA to be more responsive in building the industry as a whole, and not just the two or three main operators.
Regards,
Collins Areba, Kilifi, Kenya. Tel: +254 707 750 788 / 0731750788 Twitter: @arebacollins. Skype: arebacollins
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hi Ali,
This is all factual. I am sure you appreciate evidence-based decisions. Just as it is in the commercial world, so is it in the regulatory space too. We cannot do away with statistics. We must measure development in the sector and use that information to draw strategies for the future. Investors too share this opinion. Let us join hands to build our country and not trash the far we have come. By the way the amount of money required to fill all the communication gaps is way much more than there is in the kitty. But certainly as the regulator we respect the opinions of all stakeholders.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Rachel
Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones?
Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that?
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hi Hussein/Kivuva,
These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF.
Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-)
You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population.
As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
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Ali, Let us not politicize the issue. People get what the they agitate for. It could be building or even looting of businesses, elsewhere it could be installation or bombing of base stations. Opposite Safaricom, (Shell Petrol Station side) on Waiyaki Way, network connectivity is a major issue. Note, the CA is a few kilometres away on this same highway. Inside many offices, for voice, Kabamba phones often perform better than smartphones. Outside the building, voice signal clearer. Data is spotty. This is less than 100 metres from Safaricom. On Feb 27, 2018 3:57 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Collins
I know you are based in Kilifi. I challenge you to go to Mtondia which is 6kms from the County HQ and report back. Happy to buy you lunch if I’m wrong. :-)
Regards
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Sent from my iPad
On 26 Feb 2018, at 11:37 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ali,
I don't think there is a space within 10 Kilometres of Kilifi county HQ, that does not have Safaricom LTE. :-) leave alone Voice.
That said, We need CA to be more responsive in building the industry as a whole, and not just the two or three main operators.
Regards,
Collins Areba, Kilifi, Kenya. Tel: +*254 707 750 788 */ *0731750788* Twitter: @arebacollins. Skype: arebacollins
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
This is all factual. I am sure you appreciate evidence-based decisions. Just as it is in the commercial world, so is it in the regulatory space too. We cannot do away with statistics. We must measure development in the sector and use that information to draw strategies for the future. Investors too share this opinion. Let us join hands to build our country and not trash the far we have come. By the way the amount of money required to fill all the communication gaps is way much more than there is in the kitty. But certainly as the regulator we respect the opinions of all stakeholders.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Rachel
Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones?
Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Hussein/Kivuva,
These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF.
Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with
non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-)
You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population.
As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
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Muraya Where is the politics? I'm saying it as it is. What I'm saying are facts. You can check them, Statistics not withstanding. This is the bane of this country. When someone speaks up and contradicts Official 'Statistics' it is Politics. When are we going to grow up as a country and speak out that we have billions collected as taxes, you have moribund agencies doing jack and then we talk about Politicizing... *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:15 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali,
Let us not politicize the issue.
People get what the they agitate for. It could be building or even looting of businesses, elsewhere it could be installation or bombing of base stations.
Opposite Safaricom, (Shell Petrol Station side) on Waiyaki Way, network connectivity is a major issue. Note, the CA is a few kilometres away on this same highway.
Inside many offices, for voice, Kabamba phones often perform better than smartphones. Outside the building, voice signal clearer. Data is spotty. This is less than 100 metres from Safaricom.
On Feb 27, 2018 3:57 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Collins
I know you are based in Kilifi. I challenge you to go to Mtondia which is 6kms from the County HQ and report back. Happy to buy you lunch if I’m wrong. :-)
Regards
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On 26 Feb 2018, at 11:37 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ali,
I don't think there is a space within 10 Kilometres of Kilifi county HQ, that does not have Safaricom LTE. :-) leave alone Voice.
That said, We need CA to be more responsive in building the industry as a whole, and not just the two or three main operators.
Regards,
Collins Areba, Kilifi, Kenya. Tel: +*254 707 750 788 */ *0731750788* Twitter: @arebacollins. Skype: arebacollins
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
This is all factual. I am sure you appreciate evidence-based decisions. Just as it is in the commercial world, so is it in the regulatory space too. We cannot do away with statistics. We must measure development in the sector and use that information to draw strategies for the future. Investors too share this opinion. Let us join hands to build our country and not trash the far we have come. By the way the amount of money required to fill all the communication gaps is way much more than there is in the kitty. But certainly as the regulator we respect the opinions of all stakeholders.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Rachel
Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones?
Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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Chiromo Road, Westlands,
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Hussein/Kivuva,
These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF.
Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with
non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-)
You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population.
As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
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Dear Ali, Well said, you just have to look around , most of the state and private entities doing well take criticism positively and are always looking for ways to engage, it not politics most of us suffer directly from poor QOS. Best Regards On 2/27/18, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Muraya
Where is the politics? I'm saying it as it is. What I'm saying are facts. You can check them, Statistics not withstanding.
This is the bane of this country. When someone speaks up and contradicts Official 'Statistics' it is Politics. When are we going to grow up as a country and speak out that we have billions collected as taxes, you have moribund agencies doing jack and then we talk about Politicizing...
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:15 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali,
Let us not politicize the issue.
People get what the they agitate for. It could be building or even looting of businesses, elsewhere it could be installation or bombing of base stations.
Opposite Safaricom, (Shell Petrol Station side) on Waiyaki Way, network connectivity is a major issue. Note, the CA is a few kilometres away on this same highway.
Inside many offices, for voice, Kabamba phones often perform better than smartphones. Outside the building, voice signal clearer. Data is spotty. This is less than 100 metres from Safaricom.
On Feb 27, 2018 3:57 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Collins
I know you are based in Kilifi. I challenge you to go to Mtondia which is 6kms from the County HQ and report back. Happy to buy you lunch if I’m wrong. :-)
Regards
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Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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On 26 Feb 2018, at 11:37 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ali,
I don't think there is a space within 10 Kilometres of Kilifi county HQ, that does not have Safaricom LTE. :-) leave alone Voice.
That said, We need CA to be more responsive in building the industry as a whole, and not just the two or three main operators.
Regards,
Collins Areba, Kilifi, Kenya. Tel: +*254 707 750 788 */ *0731750788* Twitter: @arebacollins. Skype: arebacollins
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
This is all factual. I am sure you appreciate evidence-based decisions. Just as it is in the commercial world, so is it in the regulatory space too. We cannot do away with statistics. We must measure development in the sector and use that information to draw strategies for the future. Investors too share this opinion. Let us join hands to build our country and not trash the far we have come. By the way the amount of money required to fill all the communication gaps is way much more than there is in the kitty. But certainly as the regulator we respect the opinions of all stakeholders.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Rachel
Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones?
Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*AHK & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Hussein/Kivuva,
These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF.
Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with
non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-)
You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population.
As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
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Rachel I want to raise something here that is not directly linked to the current discussions on this thread but which I think is equally important. I want to appreciate you and the CA and the way you engage stakeholders. It is not often we get such passioned engagement. Even when we agree to disagree we learn from each other and the paramount reason we engage - to better this country. So thank you and I hope that your mother Ministry and other Agencies within the ministry will understand and appreciate that engagements like these are for the good of this country and not a witch hunt against any particular individual or Agency. Keep up the good work and we promise to engage objectively and listen in return. Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 26 Feb 2018, at 10:29 PM, Alwala, Rachel <Alwala@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
This is all factual. I am sure you appreciate evidence-based decisions. Just as it is in the commercial world, so is it in the regulatory space too. We cannot do away with statistics. We must measure development in the sector and use that information to draw strategies for the future. Investors too share this opinion. Let us join hands to build our country and not trash the far we have come. By the way the amount of money required to fill all the communication gaps is way much more than there is in the kitty. But certainly as the regulator we respect the opinions of all stakeholders.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Rachel
Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones?
Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that?
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hi Hussein/Kivuva,
These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF.
Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-)
You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population.
As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
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Rachel, This is a great step. My five cents......It might help gain the confidence of the stakeholders if the CA were to share the gaps, regions most affected against the population, and the roadmap to close these gaps over time, of course palling against time, and available resources, now and in the future. Best wishes, Dick On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,
This is all factual. I am sure you appreciate evidence-based decisions. Just as it is in the commercial world, so is it in the regulatory space too. We cannot do away with statistics. We must measure development in the sector and use that information to draw strategies for the future. Investors too share this opinion. Let us join hands to build our country and not trash the far we have come. By the way the amount of money required to fill all the communication gaps is way much more than there is in the kitty. But certainly as the regulator we respect the opinions of all stakeholders.
Regards,
Rachel
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Rachel
Thank you for your spirited defence of the USF. We can agree to disagree on this. I specifically mentioned areas that are inhabited by humans not elephants within a 10 km radius of County HQs. What is the USF for if not to ensure such areas are covered. Could it be because some of these areas are considered Opposition zones?
Let us be circumspect and say it as it is. Statistics are for academicians. They won't get us connectivity to areas where they are needed. As a way forward I would like to see statistics going forward that say ALL County HQs are covered by High Speed Broadband for at least a 10km radius. Now that would be a statistic to celebrate. Can your report tell us that?
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Hussein/Kivuva,
These are not strange terms in industry. We subscribe to global statistics principles which are considered best practice. The World Telecommunications/ICT indicators Guidelines issued by the ITU clearly define what we would refer to as the percentage of population covered by a particular service and on the other the land mass covered by the same service. Generally in network expansion, even in commercial considerations, population coverage takes precedence. This is the same consideration in use in the USF.
Additionally, beyond this , there are always initiatives to ensure extended coverage especially in what is referred to as shadow areas. For instance Kilifi and Lamu counties are covered with a 2G and 3G signals . But due to vast geographical area, the 3G network which utilises the 2.1 Ghz band is limited in coverage. This situation can be improved through rollout the 3G network using re-farmed 900 Mhz (U900) band instead of using the 2100 Mhz which was originally allocated for that purpose. It helps reduce the network shadow areas using minimum investments on the side of the operators. These are ongoing initiatives that bear fruit not in a day Ali but over time. I hope you appreciate the efforts of CA and industry players at large. Lets us celebrate milestones and the positive gains made. Rome was not built in a day.
Regards,
Rachel
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+alwala=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, February 26, 2018 at 7:14 PM To: Rachel <alwala@ca.go.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA¹s Sh85m plan to link remote areas with mobile voice
Honestly, as Kenyans we are super tired of being strung along with
non-existent statistics. We simply need to get our act together.
I'm also keen to understand the difference between land based and population based statistics/connectivity.. Let's dispense with semantics please..
Can this forum have a clap feature like in Medium? :-)
You have got that correct Ali. CA is being Machiavellianon its reporting. So that it can meet it's target, it reports that it has 94.4% coverage on 2G and 78% coverage on 3G. There, it has reached it's Performace Contracting targets. When now the user who know nothing about numbers asks about connectivity, they spring up new jargons like land mass vs population.
As an end user, I would actually say I want connectivity on my phone, or computer. Land mass, water mass, population, wharathos?
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participants (8)
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Ali Hussein -
Alwala, Rachel -
Barrack Otieno -
Collins Areba -
Dick Omondi -
John Kariuki -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
S.M. Muraya