PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSIONS DAY 3 - ONLINE BULLYING: HOW SAFE IS THE SPACE?
Good morning Listers, Today we want to discuss about Online Bullying. We want to know how safe the space is for us and for our children. In doing this, we will try to answer the following questions. 1) What are the trends? 2) Do we have capacity to adequately respond to cyber crime incidences? 3) What are the challenges in tackling the offence? 4) What should be done to address this offence? Looking forward to a fruitful and lively discussion.
Hi Francis, In regards to online bullying neither us nor our children are safe. There have recently been deaths directly attributable to cyber bullying where a lady committed suicide and online crime waves like the blue whale challenge. In regards to capacity there is need to incvest heavily in cyber crime units in the police force and generally have operations digitised so that our forces are equiped to deal with the new frontier for crime. One of the main challenges in tackling the offense are finding the main perpetrators, like in instances of mass cyber bullying where stories go viral in various channels, it may be impossible to even know the person who originally posted. We as a nation are generally ill prepared. Parents must be made aware of protection mechanisms especially for children. Kind regards, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu.
Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this discussion. Online bullying and its consequences are a reflection of offline realities. Both the children who are the bullies and their victims need counselling and a social support system. Maybe the issue of bullying should be introduced into the school curriculum (eg in Social Ethics) or Say-no-to-bullying clubs started. Charity begins at home...and so does bullying. I think bullies are created, not born, so the family situation also needs to be addressed. Is bullying glorified in Kenyan TV shows and songs? Food for thought. Kenya is a patriarchal society: does gender play a role in who is a bully and who is bullied? In short, this issue cannot be dealt in isolation. All the other interrelated aspects must also be addressed. Regards, Mildred Achoch. On Thursday, June 29, 2017, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Francis,
In regards to online bullying neither us nor our children are safe. There have recently been deaths directly attributable to cyber bullying where a lady committed suicide and online crime waves like the blue whale challenge.
In regards to capacity there is need to incvest heavily in cyber crime units in the police force and generally have operations digitised so that our forces are equiped to deal with the new frontier for crime.
One of the main challenges in tackling the offense are finding the main perpetrators, like in instances of mass cyber bullying where stories go viral in various channels, it may be impossible to even know the person who originally posted.
We as a nation are generally ill prepared. Parents must be made aware of protection mechanisms especially for children.
Kind regards,
Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu.
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Thanks so much Rosemary and Mildred for your contribution. Kenyan adults have been victims of revenge porn. For example Kimindiri and Roshanara Ebrahim. In the case of Roshanara Ebrahim V Ashley Kenya Limited & 3 others (2016), the High Court found that her ex-boyfriend had breached her right to privacy under Article 31 (c). For the breach, the court asked him to pay Ksh. 1 million. Is this a step into the right direction? Do we need criminal law to come and curb online bullying? On 29 Jun 2017 09:37, "Mildred Achoch via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this discussion.
Online bullying and its consequences are a reflection of offline realities. Both the children who are the bullies and their victims need counselling and a social support system. Maybe the issue of bullying should be introduced into the school curriculum (eg in Social Ethics) or Say-no-to-bullying clubs started.
Charity begins at home...and so does bullying. I think bullies are created, not born, so the family situation also needs to be addressed.
Is bullying glorified in Kenyan TV shows and songs? Food for thought.
Kenya is a patriarchal society: does gender play a role in who is a bully and who is bullied?
In short, this issue cannot be dealt in isolation. All the other interrelated aspects must also be addressed.
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Thursday, June 29, 2017, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Francis,
In regards to online bullying neither us nor our children are safe. There have recently been deaths directly attributable to cyber bullying where a lady committed suicide and online crime waves like the blue whale challenge.
In regards to capacity there is need to incvest heavily in cyber crime units in the police force and generally have operations digitised so that our forces are equiped to deal with the new frontier for crime.
One of the main challenges in tackling the offense are finding the main perpetrators, like in instances of mass cyber bullying where stories go viral in various channels, it may be impossible to even know the person who originally posted.
We as a nation are generally ill prepared. Parents must be made aware of protection mechanisms especially for children.
Kind regards,
Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu.
-- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
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Dear all, The sentiments expressed above by Rosemary are very alarming. It appears that the Mob mentality which usually leads to lynching is being played out online. One of the essentials for online users, would be emergency numbers to the cyber-crime division of the CID. I totally agree with the suggestion of training people generally and mostly children. Cyber bullies should be called criminals and there should be a stigma attached to such behaviour . The problem is that our society seems to be idolising the criminals instead of the other way round. Regards. GERTRUDE MATATA CO. ADVOCATES COMMISSIONERS FOR OATHS NOTARY PUBLIC HILLSIDE APARTMENTS 4TH FLOOR, Apartments 11 RAGATI ROAD,Opposite N.H.I.F NEAR CAPITOL HILL POLICE STATION P.O. Box 517-00517 Nairobi Mobile:0722-374109/0729-556523, Wireless 020-2159837 DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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In the case of Roshanara Ebrahim V Ashley Kenya Limited & 3 others (2016), the High Court found that her ex-boyfriend had breached her right to privacy under Article 31 (c). For the breach, the court asked him to pay Ksh. 1 million. Is this a step into the right direction? Do we need criminal law to come and curb online bullying? On 29 Jun 2017 09:37, "Mildred Achoch via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this discussion. Online bullying and its consequences are a reflection of offline realities. Both the children who are the bullies and their victims need counselling and a social support system. Maybe the issue of bullying should be introduced into the school curriculum (eg in Social Ethics) or Say-no-to-bullying clubs started. Charity begins at home...and so does bullying. I think bullies are created, not born, so the family situation also needs to be addressed. Is bullying glorified in Kenyan TV shows and songs? Food for thought. Kenya is a patriarchal society: does gender play a role in who is a bully and who is bullied? In short, this issue cannot be dealt in isolation. All the other interrelated aspects must also be addressed. Regards,Mildred Achoch. On Thursday, June 29, 2017, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Hi Francis,In regards to online bullying neither us nor our children are safe. There have recently been deaths directly attributable to cyber bullying where a lady committed suicide and online crime waves like the blue whale challenge.In regards to capacity there is need to incvest heavily in cyber crime units in the police force and generally have operations digitised so that our forces are equiped to deal with the new frontier for crime.One of the main challenges in tackling the offense are finding the main perpetrators, like in instances of mass cyber bullying where stories go viral in various channels, it may be impossible to even know the person who originally posted.We as a nation are generally ill prepared. 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Hi all, Thanks for starting off this important discussion. Cyber-bullying is now available on a range of platforms including new interactive apps, games consoles,social networks etc where most young people spend their time. I believe that we are not taking advantage of the various channels that we can use to address this menace. Parents , older students/siblings,and clubs as mentioned earlier can be harnessed to tackle cyber-bullying but unfortunately, this hasn’t been the case. Lets face it, cyber-bullying has not be taken seriously by the Kenyan society until recently when the Bluewhale game that led to a number of suicides came into focus. Do teens who are bullies recognise the ramifications of their actions? cyberbullying becomes viral once it starts, can this be nipped in the bud? Our law enforcement officers, parents, teachers and children should be kept updated on the evolving state of online behaviour to enable them effectively address this issue. CAK produced some nice educational materials on how to handle this issue…how is the enforcement?? Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be used to monitor their children’s online activities. Parents should go back to the ABCs of raising their children based on the principles of good morals, this would help a great deal. e.g have open discussions with the teens and children. Regards
On Jun 29, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Francis Monyango via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
1) What are the trends?
2) Do we have capacity to adequately respond to cyber crime incidences?
3) What are the challenges in tackling the offence?
4) What should be done to address this offence?
Dear all, Thanks for the very enlightening discussion on cyber bullying. The key take-aways of the discussion are as follows: 1) What are the trends? - There have been deaths attributed to cyber bullying? - Adults are victims of revenge pornography - Cyber bullying is rampant on a range of platforms - Mob mentality is playing out online 2) Do we have capacity to adequately respond to cyber crime incidences? - Need to invest heavily in cyber-crime units in the police force and have them digitized. - Other social channels that can be used to address this issue are not addressing it. 3) What are the challenges in tackling the offence? - Finding the perpetrators is hard especially in mass bullying. 4) What should be done to address this offence? - Parents should be made aware of protection mechanisms especially for children. - Bullying victims and perpetrators need counseling. - Family situation needs to be addressed. - Interrelated issues need to be addressed as bullying cannot be handled in isolation. - Law enforcement officers should be kept updated on the evolving state of online behavior - Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be used to monitor their children’s online activities - Provision of cyber-crime unit emergency numbers to online users. Open issues to be addressed. - Is bullying gloried in Kenyan TV shows and songs? - Should criminal law be used to curb cyber bullying? Tomorrow we shall be having an interesting discussion on the Fintech ecosystem moderated by Rosemary. Looking forward to it =) Do have a blessed evening. Regards, Ronald Ojino
On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> wrote:
Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be used to monitor their children’s online activities
Ojino I think in the open issues to be addressed, we should also consider the question of when does cyber bullying move dangerously from abuse to hate and incitement? This is in light of Internet trawlers who personalize and polarize any and every discussion or news item. Best regards Githaiga, Grace On Thursday, 29-06-2017 at 23:41 Ronald Ojino via kictanet wrote: Dear all, Thanks for the very enlightening discussion on cyber bullying. The key take-aways of the discussion are as follows: 1) What are the trends? - There have been deaths attributed to cyber bullying? - Adults are victims of revenge pornography - Cyber bullying is rampant on a range of platforms - Mob mentality is playing out online 2) Do we have capacity to adequately respond to cyber crime incidences? - Need to invest heavily in cyber-crime units in the police force and have them digitized. - Other social channels that can be used to address this issue are not addressing it. 3) What are the challenges in tackling the offence? - Finding the perpetrators is hard especially in mass bullying. 4) What should be done to address this offence? - Parents should be made aware of protection mechanisms especially for children. - Bullying victims and perpetrators need counseling. - Family situation needs to be addressed. - Interrelated issues need to be addressed as bullying cannot be handled in isolation. - Law enforcement officers should be kept updated on the evolving state of online behavior - Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be used to monitor their children’s online activities - Provision of cyber-crime unit emergency numbers to online users. Open issues to be addressed. - Is bullying gloried in Kenyan TV shows and songs? - Should criminal law be used to curb cyber bullying? Tomorrow we shall be having an interesting discussion on the Fintech ecosystem moderated by Rosemary. Looking forward to it =) Do have a blessed evening. Regards, Ronald Ojino On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Ronald Ojino wrote: Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be used to monitor their children’s online activities Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke "Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged and come together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama.
Noted and appended Grace, Best regards. On 30-Jun-2017 12:37 AM, "Grace Githaiga" <ggithaiga@kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ojino I think in the open issues to be addressed, we should also consider the question of when does cyber bullying move dangerously from abuse to hate and incitement? This is in light of Internet trawlers who personalize and polarize any and every discussion or news item.
Best regards
Githaiga, Grace
On Thursday, 29-06-2017 at 23:41 Ronald Ojino via kictanet wrote:
Dear all,
Thanks for the very enlightening discussion on cyber bullying. The key take-aways of the discussion are as follows:
*1) What are the trends? *
- There have been deaths attributed to cyber bullying?
- Adults are victims of revenge pornography
- Cyber bullying is rampant on a range of platforms
- Mob mentality is playing out online
*2) Do we have capacity to adequately respond to cyber crime incidences?*
- Need to invest heavily in cyber-crime units in the police force and have them digitized.
- Other social channels that can be used to address this issue are not addressing it.
*3) What are the challenges in tackling the offence?*
- Finding the perpetrators is hard especially in mass bullying.
*4) What should be done to address this offence?*
- Parents should be made aware of protection mechanisms especially for children.
- Bullying victims and perpetrators need counseling.
- Family situation needs to be addressed.
- Interrelated issues need to be addressed as bullying cannot be handled in isolation.
- Law enforcement officers should be kept updated on the evolving state of online behavior
- Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be used to monitor their children’s online activities
- Provision of cyber-crime unit emergency numbers to online users.
* Open issues to be addressed.*
- Is bullying gloried in Kenyan TV shows and songs?
- Should criminal law be used to curb cyber bullying?
Tomorrow we shall be having an interesting discussion on the Fintech ecosystem moderated by Rosemary.
Looking forward to it =)
Do have a blessed evening.
Regards,
Ronald Ojino
On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> wrote:
Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be used to monitor their children’s online activities
Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke
"Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged and come together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama.
The space is as safe as you engage in what is the "Internet design of Fair trade"; go receiving free (and paid up) cookies on the streets of WWW and allow the strangers to harvest you and follow you! It is interesting to hear the Private Investigator's take on privacy; every hippie, young person getting into this virgin space should have a whole tutorial then make their choices. The PI has pulled out a whole family data from one of the members very active internet trail. Enjoy listening in! A great clip here with Mozilla Podcast IRL Podcast | | | | | | | | | | | IRL Podcast Veronica Belmont explores real stories of life online – and real talk about how we can all keep the Internet hea... | | | | Be blessed Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Friday, 30 June 2017, 4:37, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Noted and appended Grace,Best regards. On 30-Jun-2017 12:37 AM, "Grace Githaiga" <ggithaiga@kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Ojino I think in the open issues to be addressed, we should also consider the question of when does cyber bullying move dangerously from abuse to hate and incitement? This is in light of Internet trawlers who personalize and polarize any and every discussion or news item. Best regards Githaiga, Grace On Thursday, 29-06-2017 at 23:41 Ronald Ojino via kictanet wrote: Dear all,Thanks for the very enlightening discussion on cyber bullying. The key take-aways of the discussion are as follows:1) What are the trends? - There have been deaths attributed to cyber bullying? - Adults are victims of revenge pornography - Cyber bullying is rampant on a range of platforms - Mob mentality is playing out online2) Do we have capacity to adequately respond to cyber crimeincidences? - Need to invest heavily in cyber-crime units in thepolice force and have them digitized. - Other social channels that can be used to address this issue arenot addressing it.3) What are the challenges in tackling the offence? - Finding the perpetrators is hard especially inmass bullying.4) What should be done to address this offence? - Parents should be made aware of protection mechanisms especiallyfor children. - Bullying victims and perpetrators need counseling. - Family situation needs to be addressed. - Interrelated issues need to be addressed as bullying cannot behandled in isolation. - Law enforcement officers should be kept updated on the evolvingstate of online behavior - Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be usedto monitor their children’s online activities - Provision of cyber-crime unit emergency numbers to online users. Open issues to be addressed. - Is bullying gloried in Kenyan TV shows and songs? - Should criminal law be used to curb cyberbullying?Tomorrow we shall be having an interesting discussion on the Fintech ecosystem moderated by Rosemary. Looking forward to it =)Do have a blessed evening.Regards,Ronald Ojino On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> wrote: Parents and teachers should have access to tools that can be used to monitor their children’s online activities Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke "Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged and come together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wangarikabiru%40yahoo.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Francis Monyango -
gertrude matata -
Grace Githaiga -
Mildred Achoch -
Ronald Ojino -
Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu -
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