Censorship - Telegram
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy. An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year. Is it a coincidence? Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power. Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again. "After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?" What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.* *Regards* *Michael Felix*
Are we now normalising internet shutdowns? Whag does the law say about network disruptions? Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 at 20:45, Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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Dear Listers, In 2023, Telegram was blocked for over a week, ostensibly to prevent exam cheating. Now, in 2024, the platform is once again inaccessible, highlighting a troubling trend of using internet shutdowns as a tool for censorship. https://www.kictanet.or.ke/telegram-access-blocked-in-kenya/ *Kind Regards,* *David Indeje *_____________________________________ +254 (0) 711 385 945 | +254 (0) 734 024 856 <https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-indeje/>
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable. We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no? [image: 686053e3-b435-4c80-89b8-5d249d90344f.jpeg] On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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But is this not proof that the Kenya National Examinations Council and its agencies have been unable to safeguard the integrity of these exams ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grace Githaiga Twitter: @ggithaiga Skype: gracegithaiga Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga ...the most important office in a democracy is the citizen. So, you see, that’s what our democracy demands. It needs you!----Barrack Obama. ________________________________ From: arebacollins--- via KICTANet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: 09 November 2024 12:24 PM To: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Cc: arebacollins@gmail.com <arebacollins@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] Re: Censorship - Telegram To effectively curb exam cheating, those telcos that chose to comply should disable mobile internet for the duration of the exam. Why take the risk of them using VPNs when we can just shut this thing alltogether ? Sent from my iPhone On 9 Nov 2024, at 12:21, Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable. We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no? <686053e3-b435-4c80-89b8-5d249d90344f.jpeg> On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy. An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year. Is it a coincidence? Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power. Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again. "After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?" What are your thoughts? -- Thank you. 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That's the challenge they are facing. It's not easy to beat a human to a goal they've set out to reach. So the govt is using technology to beat them to it :-) On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 12:38 PM Grace Githaiga via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
But is this not proof that the Kenya National Examinations Council and its agencies have been unable to safeguard the integrity of these exams
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To effectively curb exam cheating, those telcos that chose to comply should disable mobile internet for the duration of the exam.
Why take the risk of them using VPNs when we can just shut this thing alltogether ?
Sent from my iPhone
On 9 Nov 2024, at 12:21, Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable.
We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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Listers My concerns are as follows:- 1. The government should exercise transparency and issue a statement outlining the measures it is using to curb cheating in exams. This includes blocking Telegram, etc. 2. The Players in the Telecom Sector, through their official Lobby Group, TESPOK, should also issue a statement confirming or denying that the government has ordered them to institute this blockade of Internet Services, specifically Telegram. Why not WhatsApp and other platforms? 3. Tespok should further tell the public how many times its members have received these government orders and whether they have complied with them. The above measures will go a long way to allay fears and build confidence in how the Government uses its powers to protect its citizens. Regards *Ali Hussein* Fintech | Digital Transformation Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 12:21 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable.
We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no?
[image: 686053e3-b435-4c80-89b8-5d249d90344f.jpeg]
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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Agreed... The answer may just be in that one question >> "Why not WhatsApp and other platforms?" 😎 Regards, -- Wainaina On Sun, Nov 10, 2024, 1:40 PM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
My concerns are as follows:-
1. The government should exercise transparency and issue a statement outlining the measures it is using to curb cheating in exams. This includes blocking Telegram, etc. 2. The Players in the Telecom Sector, through their official Lobby Group, TESPOK, should also issue a statement confirming or denying that the government has ordered them to institute this blockade of Internet Services, specifically Telegram. Why not WhatsApp and other platforms? 3. Tespok should further tell the public how many times its members have received these government orders and whether they have complied with them.
The above measures will go a long way to allay fears and build confidence in how the Government uses its powers to protect its citizens.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 12:21 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable.
We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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Yup. *Ali Hussein* Fintech | Digital Transformation Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 2:10 PM Wainaina Mungai <wainaina.mungai@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed...
The answer may just be in that one question >> "Why not WhatsApp and other platforms?" 😎
Regards,
-- Wainaina
On Sun, Nov 10, 2024, 1:40 PM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
My concerns are as follows:-
1. The government should exercise transparency and issue a statement outlining the measures it is using to curb cheating in exams. This includes blocking Telegram, etc. 2. The Players in the Telecom Sector, through their official Lobby Group, TESPOK, should also issue a statement confirming or denying that the government has ordered them to institute this blockade of Internet Services, specifically Telegram. Why not WhatsApp and other platforms? 3. Tespok should further tell the public how many times its members have received these government orders and whether they have complied with them.
The above measures will go a long way to allay fears and build confidence in how the Government uses its powers to protect its citizens.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 12:21 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable.
We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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My concern is if you can bypass the ban with a VPN then what exactly is the reason. My cents dont't add up Jorum On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 2:38 PM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Yup.
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On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 2:10 PM Wainaina Mungai <wainaina.mungai@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed...
The answer may just be in that one question >> "Why not WhatsApp and other platforms?" 😎
Regards,
-- Wainaina
On Sun, Nov 10, 2024, 1:40 PM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
My concerns are as follows:-
1. The government should exercise transparency and issue a statement outlining the measures it is using to curb cheating in exams. This includes blocking Telegram, etc. 2. The Players in the Telecom Sector, through their official Lobby Group, TESPOK, should also issue a statement confirming or denying that the government has ordered them to institute this blockade of Internet Services, specifically Telegram. Why not WhatsApp and other platforms? 3. Tespok should further tell the public how many times its members have received these government orders and whether they have complied with them.
The above measures will go a long way to allay fears and build confidence in how the Government uses its powers to protect its citizens.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 12:21 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable.
We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no?
[image: 686053e3-b435-4c80-89b8-5d249d90344f.jpeg]
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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Agree entirely with Ali. Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society. Rgds, A. Siaya. On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 1:40 PM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
My concerns are as follows:-
1. The government should exercise transparency and issue a statement outlining the measures it is using to curb cheating in exams. This includes blocking Telegram, etc. 2. The Players in the Telecom Sector, through their official Lobby Group, TESPOK, should also issue a statement confirming or denying that the government has ordered them to institute this blockade of Internet Services, specifically Telegram. Why not WhatsApp and other platforms? 3. Tespok should further tell the public how many times its members have received these government orders and whether they have complied with them.
The above measures will go a long way to allay fears and build confidence in how the Government uses its powers to protect its citizens.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 12:21 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable.
We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no?
[image: 686053e3-b435-4c80-89b8-5d249d90344f.jpeg]
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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Kindly unsubscribe me from your mailing list On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, 15:01 Alloys Siaya via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Agree entirely with Ali.
Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society.
Rgds, A. Siaya.
On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 1:40 PM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
My concerns are as follows:-
1. The government should exercise transparency and issue a statement outlining the measures it is using to curb cheating in exams. This includes blocking Telegram, etc. 2. The Players in the Telecom Sector, through their official Lobby Group, TESPOK, should also issue a statement confirming or denying that the government has ordered them to institute this blockade of Internet Services, specifically Telegram. Why not WhatsApp and other platforms? 3. Tespok should further tell the public how many times its members have received these government orders and whether they have complied with them.
The above measures will go a long way to allay fears and build confidence in how the Government uses its powers to protect its citizens.
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 12:21 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable.
We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, 15:01 Alloys Siaya via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Agree entirely with Ali.
Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society.
Rgds, A. Siaya.
On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 1:40 PM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
My concerns are as follows:-
1. The government should exercise transparency and issue a statement outlining the measures it is using to curb cheating in exams. This includes blocking Telegram, etc. 2. The Players in the Telecom Sector, through their official Lobby Group, TESPOK, should also issue a statement confirming or denying that the government has ordered them to institute this blockade of Internet Services, specifically Telegram. Why not WhatsApp and other platforms? 3. Tespok should further tell the public how many times its members have received these government orders and whether they have complied with them.
The above measures will go a long way to allay fears and build confidence in how the Government uses its powers to protect its citizens.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
Fintech | Digital Transformation
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
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On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 12:21 PM Odhiambo Washington via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
As the Defo's (devil) advocate, I have these questions: 1. Do we support the government's efforts to curb Exam cheating? 2. Do we allow the government to use every way possible to achieve (1) above? For me, I suppose (2) is agreeable.
We all know that the govt has the ability, legal or otherwise, to effect censorship of the Internet. In this case, only Mobile Network Operators were directed to do the 'censorship'. Zuku, Liquid Telecom, China Telecom, etc were left out. I saw a letter from the CA (I can't attest to its authenticity) that purportedly gave this directive. I think in such a case where the govt is open about the censorship, it should not be an issue, no?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 8:45 PM Michael Felix via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's been 72hrs and Telegram is not currently available in Kenya unless you are using a VPN or proxy.
An article by Kictanet https://posts.kictanet.or.ke/tele-gone-telegram-down-is-it-an-internet-shutd... noted this same time last year.
Is it a coincidence?
Some say it's to STOP exam cheating, others say it's a show of the government's mighty power.
Partinet questions were asked on the article but since we did not get answers, it is back. No consequences. But I ask the same questions again.
"After Telegram, what else will be shut down? What will be the next excuse? What direction do we want to take as a country?"
What are your thoughts? -- *Thank you.*
*Regards*
*Michael Felix*
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On 11/11/2024 2.57 pm, Alloys Siaya via KICTANet wrote:
Agree entirely with Ali.
Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society.
Probably the exam process needs to be updated. As the new curriculum has a significant continuous assessment component, a significant part of the exams could be automated. Ideally each school (or schools within a ward) would have a computer lab that could be connected to the internet and many tests could be given remotely and marked automatically. This would mean that most tests would not need to be printed, and that the questions could differ by candidate. Of course for some subjects, automated testing is difficult, for example free response essay and comprehension questions, but where multiple choice or other similar formats can be used, this would curb cheating and reduce test costs.
Rgds, A. Siaya.
Meanwhile, Telegram is still blocked on some networks. Someone still thinks it's a brilliant move. No more exam cheating... Well Done! 🤦🏿♂️ On Wed, 13 Nov 2024, 13:55 Benson Muite via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 11/11/2024 2.57 pm, Alloys Siaya via KICTANet wrote:
Agree entirely with Ali.
Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society.
Probably the exam process needs to be updated. As the new curriculum has a significant continuous assessment component, a significant part of the exams could be automated. Ideally each school (or schools within a ward) would have a computer lab that could be connected to the internet and many tests could be given remotely and marked automatically. This would mean that most tests would not need to be printed, and that the questions could differ by candidate. Of course for some subjects, automated testing is difficult, for example free response essay and comprehension questions, but where multiple choice or other similar formats can be used, this would curb cheating and reduce test costs.
Rgds, A. Siaya.
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We all need civic education. And I’m trying to be polite to brothers and sisters who feel its okay for the government to wake up and schedule a network disruption because they have failed to curb exam cheating and because they feel they owe nothing to other citizens who depend on the network for their businesses and other things. Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 at 19:52, Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Meanwhile, Telegram is still blocked on some networks. Someone still thinks it's a brilliant move.
No more exam cheating...
Well Done! 🤦🏿♂️
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024, 13:55 Benson Muite via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 11/11/2024 2.57 pm, Alloys Siaya via KICTANet wrote:
Agree entirely with Ali.
Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society.
Probably the exam process needs to be updated. As the new curriculum has a significant continuous assessment component, a significant part of the exams could be automated. Ideally each school (or schools within a ward) would have a computer lab that could be connected to the internet and many tests could be given remotely and marked automatically. This would mean that most tests would not need to be printed, and that the questions could differ by candidate. Of course for some subjects, automated testing is difficult, for example free response essay and comprehension questions, but where multiple choice or other similar formats can be used, this would curb cheating and reduce test costs.
Rgds, A. Siaya.
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Do we close highways that have accident blackspots? And while that is an option, would it be a sustainable one? Is blocking Telegram year in year out going to solve national exams leakage/cheating? Or is it just a lazy way of trying to look like you are doing something to curb the leakage/cheating while indeed there are many other platforms that work in a similar way that candidates can use to achieve the vice? If we continue to encourage this, the next thing they'll block is the entire internet as they are aware that blocking platforms is easily bypassed by VPNs which is a well known strategy by the perpetrators of exam leaks. A possible solution is making High School Exam grading to be similar to University Exam grading where every exam from the start counts on your final results which is attained by averaging all end of term/sem marks for each unit to attain the final grade. This I postulate will reduce the demand for exam leakage. On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:36 AM Liz Orembo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We all need civic education. And I’m trying to be polite to brothers and sisters who feel its okay for the government to wake up and schedule a network disruption because they have failed to curb exam cheating and because they feel they owe nothing to other citizens who depend on the network for their businesses and other things.
Best regards. Liz.
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 at 19:52, Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Meanwhile, Telegram is still blocked on some networks. Someone still thinks it's a brilliant move.
No more exam cheating...
Well Done! 🤦🏿♂️
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024, 13:55 Benson Muite via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 11/11/2024 2.57 pm, Alloys Siaya via KICTANet wrote:
Agree entirely with Ali.
Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society.
Probably the exam process needs to be updated. As the new curriculum has a significant continuous assessment component, a significant part of the exams could be automated. Ideally each school (or schools within a ward) would have a computer lab that could be connected to the internet and many tests could be given remotely and marked automatically. This would mean that most tests would not need to be printed, and that the questions could differ by candidate. Of course for some subjects, automated testing is difficult, for example free response essay and comprehension questions, but where multiple choice or other similar formats can be used, this would curb cheating and reduce test costs.
Rgds, A. Siaya.
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Kelvin Kariuki's comment..."A possible solution is making High School Exam grading to be similar to University Exam grading where every exam from the start counts on your final results which is attained by averaging all end of term/sem marks for each unit to attain the final grade. This I postulate will reduce the demand for exam leakage." ...brings up some questions about our education system, especially in light of this artificial intelligence era that we are entering. To reference a popular saying, is our education system equipping students to bring knives to a gun fight? I understand there is already some controversy regarding CBC but with the fast pace of technological advancements, it is not remiss to review/update the education curriculum regularly. Regards, Mildred Achoch. On Thursday, November 14, 2024, Kelvin Kariuki via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Do we close highways that have accident blackspots? And while that is an option, would it be a sustainable one?
Is blocking Telegram year in year out going to solve national exams leakage/cheating? Or is it just a lazy way of trying to look like you are doing something to curb the leakage/cheating while indeed there are many other platforms that work in a similar way that candidates can use to achieve the vice?
If we continue to encourage this, the next thing they'll block is the entire internet as they are aware that blocking platforms is easily bypassed by VPNs which is a well known strategy by the perpetrators of exam leaks.
A possible solution is making High School Exam grading to be similar to University Exam grading where every exam from the start counts on your final results which is attained by averaging all end of term/sem marks for each unit to attain the final grade. This I postulate will reduce the demand for exam leakage.
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:36 AM Liz Orembo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We all need civic education. And I’m trying to be polite to brothers and sisters who feel its okay for the government to wake up and schedule a network disruption because they have failed to curb exam cheating and because they feel they owe nothing to other citizens who depend on the network for their businesses and other things.
Best regards. Liz.
PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 at 19:52, Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Meanwhile, Telegram is still blocked on some networks. Someone still thinks it's a brilliant move.
No more exam cheating...
Well Done! 🤦🏿♂️
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024, 13:55 Benson Muite via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 11/11/2024 2.57 pm, Alloys Siaya via KICTANet wrote:
Agree entirely with Ali.
Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society.
Probably the exam process needs to be updated. As the new curriculum has a significant continuous assessment component, a significant part of the exams could be automated. Ideally each school (or schools within a ward) would have a computer lab that could be connected to the internet and many tests could be given remotely and marked automatically. This would mean that most tests would not need to be printed, and that the questions could differ by candidate. Of course for some subjects, automated testing is difficult, for example free response essay and comprehension questions, but where multiple choice or other similar formats can be used, this would curb cheating and reduce test costs.
Rgds, A. Siaya.
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Listers, I agree with Mildred and teacher Karis. its a systemic problem that needs to be addressed, Best Regards On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 11:42 AM Mildred Achoch via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kelvin Kariuki's comment..."A possible solution is making High School Exam grading to be similar to University Exam grading where every exam from the start counts on your final results which is attained by averaging all end of term/sem marks for each unit to attain the final grade. This I postulate will reduce the demand for exam leakage."
...brings up some questions about our education system, especially in light of this artificial intelligence era that we are entering. To reference a popular saying, is our education system equipping students to bring knives to a gun fight? I understand there is already some controversy regarding CBC but with the fast pace of technological advancements, it is not remiss to review/update the education curriculum regularly.
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Thursday, November 14, 2024, Kelvin Kariuki via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Do we close highways that have accident blackspots? And while that is an option, would it be a sustainable one?
Is blocking Telegram year in year out going to solve national exams leakage/cheating? Or is it just a lazy way of trying to look like you are doing something to curb the leakage/cheating while indeed there are many other platforms that work in a similar way that candidates can use to achieve the vice?
If we continue to encourage this, the next thing they'll block is the entire internet as they are aware that blocking platforms is easily bypassed by VPNs which is a well known strategy by the perpetrators of exam leaks.
A possible solution is making High School Exam grading to be similar to University Exam grading where every exam from the start counts on your final results which is attained by averaging all end of term/sem marks for each unit to attain the final grade. This I postulate will reduce the demand for exam leakage.
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:36 AM Liz Orembo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We all need civic education. And I’m trying to be polite to brothers and sisters who feel its okay for the government to wake up and schedule a network disruption because they have failed to curb exam cheating and because they feel they owe nothing to other citizens who depend on the network for their businesses and other things.
Best regards. Liz.
PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 at 19:52, Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Meanwhile, Telegram is still blocked on some networks. Someone still thinks it's a brilliant move.
No more exam cheating...
Well Done! 🤦🏿♂️
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024, 13:55 Benson Muite via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 11/11/2024 2.57 pm, Alloys Siaya via KICTANet wrote:
Agree entirely with Ali.
Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And that doesn't augur well for the industry/society.
Probably the exam process needs to be updated. As the new curriculum has a significant continuous assessment component, a significant part of the exams could be automated. Ideally each school (or schools within a ward) would have a computer lab that could be connected to the internet and many tests could be given remotely and marked automatically. This would mean that most tests would not need to be printed, and that the questions could differ by candidate. Of course for some subjects, automated testing is difficult, for example free response essay and comprehension questions, but where multiple choice or other similar formats can be used, this would curb cheating and reduce test costs.
Rgds, A. Siaya.
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CA as a regulator or any other agency should not adopt blocking and censorship as an option. Let us not get distracted by the details of the exam cheating & other allegations else we will build houses without dooors and windows because that is where burglers access our homes. Privacy should be an absolute right (except in a Court sanctioned case after valid reason has been presented to a Judge). That's not what we are dealing with. After observing humans for half a century, Privacy and Data Protection provisions were hard-fought achievements that if compromised at the altar of our personal biases and religious/self-righteousness preferences, we would find ourselves where the MAGA USA finds itself with amoral humans like Trump, Gaetz, Bannon, Juliani etc are imposing twisted standards of morality and denying science, privacy and common sense. -- Wainaina On Thu, Nov 14, 2024, 1:43 PM Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
I agree with Mildred and teacher Karis. its a systemic problem that needs to be addressed,
Best Regards
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 11:42 AM Mildred Achoch via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kelvin Kariuki's comment..."A possible solution is making High School Exam grading to be similar to University Exam grading where every exam from the start counts on your final results which is attained by averaging all end of term/sem marks for each unit to attain the final grade. This I postulate will reduce the demand for exam leakage."
...brings up some questions about our education system, especially in light of this artificial intelligence era that we are entering. To reference a popular saying, is our education system equipping students to bring knives to a gun fight? I understand there is already some controversy regarding CBC but with the fast pace of technological advancements, it is not remiss to review/update the education curriculum regularly.
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
On Thursday, November 14, 2024, Kelvin Kariuki via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Do we close highways that have accident blackspots? And while that is an option, would it be a sustainable one?
Is blocking Telegram year in year out going to solve national exams leakage/cheating? Or is it just a lazy way of trying to look like you are doing something to curb the leakage/cheating while indeed there are many other platforms that work in a similar way that candidates can use to achieve the vice?
If we continue to encourage this, the next thing they'll block is the entire internet as they are aware that blocking platforms is easily bypassed by VPNs which is a well known strategy by the perpetrators of exam leaks.
A possible solution is making High School Exam grading to be similar to University Exam grading where every exam from the start counts on your final results which is attained by averaging all end of term/sem marks for each unit to attain the final grade. This I postulate will reduce the demand for exam leakage.
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:36 AM Liz Orembo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We all need civic education. And I’m trying to be polite to brothers and sisters who feel its okay for the government to wake up and schedule a network disruption because they have failed to curb exam cheating and because they feel they owe nothing to other citizens who depend on the network for their businesses and other things.
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 at 19:52, Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Meanwhile, Telegram is still blocked on some networks. Someone still thinks it's a brilliant move.
No more exam cheating...
Well Done! 🤦🏿♂️
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024, 13:55 Benson Muite via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 11/11/2024 2.57 pm, Alloys Siaya via KICTANet wrote: > Agree entirely with Ali. > > Good governance requires transparency, communication, clear explanation. > Otherwise people doubt your intentions and competence, however good. And > that doesn't augur well for the industry/society. >
Probably the exam process needs to be updated. As the new curriculum has a significant continuous assessment component, a significant part of the exams could be automated. Ideally each school (or schools within a ward) would have a computer lab that could be connected to the internet and many tests could be given remotely and marked automatically. This would mean that most tests would not need to be printed, and that the questions could differ by candidate. Of course for some subjects, automated testing is difficult, for example free response essay and comprehension questions, but where multiple choice or other similar formats can be used, this would curb cheating and reduce test costs.
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participants (17)
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Ali Hussein
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Alloys Siaya
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arebacollins@gmail.com
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Barrack Otieno
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Benson Muite
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David Indeje
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David Indeje
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Grace Githaiga
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Jorum Odiemo
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Kelvin Kariuki
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Liz Orembo
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Michael Felix
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Mildred Achoch
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Odhiambo Washington
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Victor Kapiyo
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Victor Wahinya
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Wainaina Mungai