+1 Alex, there needs to be more effort in getting behind the router, i have read of people who have recovered their Mac's but after almost a year and rigorous tracking, the thing is the authorities must be involved in the process. Which i believe n Kenya would need quite some training and equipment as well. I lost my good laptop sometimes last year and up until now, i have never recovered it. The telcos could also help especially identifying the perpetrators once they are plugged through dongles or the phones. Thanks, Gideon Rop DotConnectAfrica On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:29 PM, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote:
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@ Evans the cost implication might be astronomical no? interesting ideas though.
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
I know of software solutions that can help track your lost laptop. The software resides in the bios, so uninstalling the OS won't help. This only works once the laptop is plugged into the Internet. From this point, you need the cooperation of the Telco/ISP and the police to track the laptop using the IPs. I have never tried it though.
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Michael Bullut <main@kipsang.com> wrote:
*@Alex* + 1
On 17 October 2012 14:32, Alex Comninos <alex.comninos@gmail.com> wrote:
It can be quite easy to track USB modems (dongles) through the IEMI number, like in a cellphone. It is easy to block IEMI numbers and punish the criminal by rendering the device useless. Whether geolocating the devices through triangulation of GSM reception is possible depends on whether this type of tracking is allowed by legislation. This would probably need a warrant to prevent abuse.
Detecting a laptop is however virtually impossible. Laptops transmit two MAC adresses over networks (the wired and wireless connection) that can identify them. However the MAC address can only be detected by LANs or wireless networks. Once the device is in a local network (LAN) it is behind a router, which has its own MAC address, rendering the MAC adress of the laptop undetectable. Thus the telcos can only track USB modems and phones, but not laptops. There are simply no technological methods available to have telcos cooperate in finding laptops.
I would suggest if one is afraid of losing a laptop: 1- one insures it 2- one encrypts the harddrive (Windows can do this now) as to not have sensitive data stolen 3- one backs up their data regularly, either to a harddrive, or online to the cloud.
Muraya, This is a serious concern as we kenyans save their hard earned income to purchase laptops.
The amount of agony and disorientation one experiences upon losing not just the hardware resource but more importantly the information is enormous.
I was a victim of this heinous act and telcos did not appear to be of help.
I would be delighted to offer ideas towards realising a solution for
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