Hi All, Thanks for the fruitful discussion on this issue, for those of us who will soon be moving away to rear chickens and goats for milk this issue might not be live threatening. What about all those fresh graduates coming into the job market are they aware that the goal posts have been moved? My son recently selected his subjects for higher secondary and when going through the career booklet it indicated that ICT job prospects will increase until around 2013 when they will then begin to decline as the demand begins to tapper off. Students are therefore being advised to look at ICT as a minor not a major stream of study. I hope the same information can be shared with our secondary school and university students who are hoping to make careers in the ICT field. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: meshack emakunat <memakunat@yahoo.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Mon, 8 August, 2011 18:38:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] IT posts for full circle Hi Maye For sure u have a good arguement on ict on its not being successful but i lost you on how ict is being commoditized and how this contributes to its failure. Please clarify! thank you Meshack On Mon Aug 8th, 2011 4:17 AM PDT Charles Maye wrote:
Actually, IT on its own cannot create profits. Airtel Kenya has a network that is as good as any. But they are losing cash. Same goes for Telkom Kenya. Africa Online was a great idea born by IT experts. It was ahead of its time and never made money. When a technology is new to the world, it can generate profits. The moment it is duplicated and commoditized and for the rest of its life, it needs another set of skills. That set of skills is what makes organizations select people other than IT experts as CIO's.
Closer home, part of the many reasons the good doctor is so successful at driving our ICT agenda as a country is because he understands how to make technology connect with our aspirations as a people. I stand to be corrected but I believe the good doctor is not an engineer.
Charles Maye
From: kictanet-bounces+cmaye=ke.nationmedia.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+cmaye=ke.nationmedia.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Agosta Liko Sent: 08 August 2011 13:25 To: Charles Maye Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] IT posts for full circle
Toma
About - "Lets face it ICT on its own cannot run or profit an organization"
This is not true, Safaricom, Airtel, Access Kenya, Zuku etc etc etc are ALL about IT.
It can create mad profits or drive them
Look at agency banking - its all about branding, float and a device (android app) ... with that a bank cuts on capex
Look at Mobile Money - its all IT, Money moves from one account to the other and there are fees for that
For old school corporates - IT is gives massive distribution ... an insurance company does not have to have offices and agents all over the country, all they need is mobile/web interfaces
A good CIO is the difference between USD10,000 for SugarCRM and USD3,000,000 for Siebel ... etc etc etc
Thanks On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Thomas Kibui <thomas.kibui@gmail.com<mailto:thomas.kibui@gmail.com>> wrote: Initially ICT was considered a necessary cost centre within many organizations. It was usually placed under Operations division or sometimes under the stingy Finance division to control its cost.
Lets face it ICT on its own cannot run or profit an organization. It is a business enabler and unless the ICT division within an organization is able to show the management of that organization that it can operate as a profit centre and actually generate tangible profits OR at least reduce the cost or making profit within other divisions , .. it will never have say in the organization.
Bottom line .. the shareholders want "profits"
Another line of argument that I have heard inside a board room is that .. most of what the ICT team refer to as "ICT Technology" are actually "nice to have" gizmos e.g. iPADs.. But I have reservation about this argument .. simply because those who were saying it were fidgeting with their blackberries ...
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