While we discuss policy, I think the challenge will remain who really are the policy makers?

Came across this and was a real eye opener, felt the gentleman was a bit clueless

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36682694



On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 10:38 AM, awatila--- via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

The policy could encourage the adoption of the standards.

I was informed the countries are actually competing on the number of professionals and organizations certified on the various standards.

Sent from Samsung tablet

On Jul 4, 2016 12:20 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
on KEBS, I would say the do have various and serious ICT standards as adopted from the global ISO standards.

However, these standards would be useful from a regulatory level.  Perhaps at a policy level we just need to throw in a clause to point the regulator to enforce these standards as and when applicable.

The other challenge ofcourse is that the ISO standards tend to be optional - except those that are health/safety related. So in some cases, a trade-off may need to be acknowledged by the regulator.

walu.


From: Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
To: jwalu@yahoo.com
Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] National ICT Policy Discussions: Day 9 of 10: Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework

@ Alex,

You bring in a very important point Kenya Bureu of Standards
Kenyanizes hundreds of International Standards that are very good yet
are hardly used within the local context. I think Standards play a
critical role in the developement of the sector and ought to be
enforced to say the least?, i wonder what @ Walu or @ Kivuva can say
from a KEBS and ISACA perspective. I would also have liked to hear the
opinion of Waudo Siganga, (CSK), Kamotho Njenga ICT Association of
Kenya and the ISACA Kenya Chapter President Roy or Preston on this
matter.

Finally i have gone through the standard and did not see anything on
Consumer protection, did i miss something?

Regards

On 7/4/16, Alex Watila via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Could the representatives of egov, icta, CA, Min of ICT clarify share their
> main mandates to make the discussion more informed.
>
>
>
> I also still have the feeling that other relevant bodies need to be roped in
> so that the policy is aligned .e.g.
>
> *        Standards – KEBS is the custodian of ISO related standards that
> include many with impact on ICT. E.g. Information Security Management
> Standards, Record Management Standards, IT Services Management etc
>
> *        Archiving – we discussed the role of KCB but also Kenya National
> Archives has a mandate and needs to be encouraged to provide this archived
> information in a digital format.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
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> From: kictanet
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf
> Of Ali Hussein via kictanet
> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 10:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] National ICT Policy Discussions: Day 9 of 10:
> Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework
>
>
>
> @Walu and all
>
>
>
> I have always find it very confusing to remember all the various players and
> their roles in the ICT Ministry. Might there be a justification to
> rationalize them? Like the process that the eGovernment Dept and the
> predecessor to the ICT Authority went through?
>
>
>
> The other issue is one of independence and confusion of the different
> players in the sector. We see the CA sometimes dabbling in policy and the
> Ministry in regulations. Sometimes the line is murky true..but we must
> endeavor to respect those roles.
>
>
>
> How does the policy address this issue?
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 4 Jul 2016, at 8:58 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet
> <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >
> wrote:
>
> Listers,
>
>
>
> @Barrack had introduced the above theme over the weekend but looks like
> folks were on a family day off. So agreed to have today to see if we can get
> views on this matter and then wrap up everthting tomorrow.
>
> ----
>
> Day 9 of 10: Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework
>
> Role of Regulator, USAC, CERTs, NCS, ICTA, PCK, CSO, Professional Bodies
> etc
>
> Needed Legislation, Data Protection, eTransaction, Intermediary Liability
> etc
>
>
>
> The Background:
>
> Now that we have discussed most of the issues, it is time to look at the
> governance framework for the same. Traditionally, the key governance actors
> have been the ICT Parliamentary Committees, the ICT Ministry, the National
> Communication Secretariate (NCS), the ICT regulator, the ICT Authority, the
> ICT (Multimedia) Appeals Tribunal,etc.
>
>
>
> The market players have been the Operators, Postal Agency, Courier Services,
> Application Service Providers.
>
>
>
> Have these entities worked well for us or do we want to delete, add or
> restructures some of them?  Is there a need to define and bring in specific
> roles for Professional bodies, Civil Society and others within the ICT
> space?
>
>
>
> What are the legal & regulatory gaps we find moving forward?
>
>
>
> We have 1 Day on this as usual.
>
>
>
> walu.
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