Being a German living abroad (in Copenhagen, Denmark), where I have been teaching at three universities in media studies and communication since 1996, I agree very much with the points that Andrea raises. Unfortunately the German Academic system is less profession oriented than your input seems to suggest Charles.

best regards

Norbert

From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+norbert=ruc.dk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Andrea Bohnstedt
Sent: 14. marts 2013 09:25
To: Norbert Wildermuth
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] GERMANY SECRET WEAPON

Charles, could you send me the data source for that percentage that two thirds of German students work as apprentices? I think that highly unlikely, not the least because you typically finish A levels (the German Abitur) at age 19, and university studies take around five years (I haven't lived in Germany for ten years, but at least back then, there were few universities that offered the anglophone division of undergraduate and postgraduate studies, so you usually go the whole distance).

Some university students may undergo other vocational training (one of my friends trained as a carpenter before she studied to become an architect), but I doubt it's two thirds.

It's not correct to say that the government arranges apprenticeships. What Germany does have is a relatively well developed vocational training system that is a combination of on-the-job training and parallel classroom training - and this can be anything from banking to carpentry to car mechanics etc.

Germans like to regulate things, so the whole system is very regulated.

The German university system has actually often been accused of producing students that are academically overqualified and of not much use in practical issues. In the anglophone system, in contrast, you can pick up the academic basicsin your undergraduate years and then gain practical experience - unless you do want an academic focus, in which case you continue studying.

I think the takeaway for Kenya would be not to keep proliferating universities, but to focus more on creating a parallel system of vocational training and maybe polytechnics with a far more practical focus. That way, you could harness the energy and skills in the jua kali sector. Mind you, I don't think this is an either-or - for a diversified economy, you need both the high-end academic and research sector and also the vocational training sector.


Andrea

On 14 March 2013 08:15, charles nduati <charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I don't know if you are aware that Germany is the only country in Europe that hasn't so far experienced economic meltdown. There trick is that two thirds of Germany University students work as apprentices which are arranged by the government. In other words, their education policy is that you acquire skills first then sharpen them with degrees later.

For me, all I want is whichever coalition that can implement these kind of policies that are already tried and tested.

me two cents

CHARLES N. NDUATI
DIRECTOR,
REVENUE GENERATION AND ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT -KENYATTA UNIVERSITY
MOBILE:254-722728815
EMIAL:charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk,cnduati@gmail.com,

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