Hi,

It is good to see that someone out there is not scared of giving a detailed response to my posts for a minute I had started taking Walu sentiments to heart.

I use the yahoo account because i can get to my mail reliably irrespective of the ISP as my main mail service is hosted by Orange/Jambo.

It works fine in the office because I have an Orange/Telkom connection but when out of the office the connection from other ISP links to the Orange servers is painfully slow, there I have listed a site.

McTim, we are looking to set up an enabling environment for those developers out here who need reliable connectivity for their web sites, please do not mistake my concern as a selfish agenda. If we keep dealing with individual issues we shall make snail progress, I ranted about local peering over 10 years ago when I used to right in a PC World but instead of the ISPs listening they opted to coin me the village madman.

So can we please look at this situation more holistically and create an environment that is conducive to enabling the up coming developers to cost effectively put up web based solutions. I visited another brilliant site www.naibase.com that is aiming to be the Kenyan Youtube equivalent but unfortunately they are hosted overseas, this is the result of lip service but those responsible for creating an enabling environment.

Why should someone providing information solely for the consumption of a local audience need to pay hosting rates pegged on the international circuit. I previous mentioned the good old days (13 years ago) of Karisi Communications when local email was free but foreign email was charged extra and how it created a vibrant local online community.

Can Tespok implement a minimum STM1 connectivity for each member of the KIXP especially since what we have in the ground is dark fibre, then provide a tariff for those who have no need for their servers to be accessed overseas. We see it with the telephone calling rates where on network charges are lower than cross network.

Regards

Sent from home on the Safaricom Wimax link, its better than nothing.

Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

From: McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com>
To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Thu, 30 September, 2010 16:46:03
Subject: Re: [kictanet] KIXP connectivity

Hi,

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:23 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Fiona,
> Thank you for the response, it helps to clarify an issue

Tis indeed helpful, looks like TESPOK needs help convincing the
government that allowing non-license holders as peers is a good idea.
In fact, it is best current practice, along with carrier neutrality,
open access, etc.

so that some of us
> stone throwers can refrain, but that can only happen when we are in the
> picture.
>
> I believe from this response from KIXP is that the ministry of information
> and by extension the ICTBoard are not being truthful when they keep making
> it seem that the ISPs are refusing to lower their tariffs because they are
> greedy.

I don't see how one infers that from the KIXP reply. Not letting
non-licensed players peer at the IX does not equate with either
government untruthfulness or lower tariffs.

> Can the usual culprits please put this issue to rest, we seriously need to
> keep local content local

Well KIXP is serious about doing just that. If you have a specific
issue where traffic that you think should go over the IX is going
overseas, then please send the traceroutes for diagnostic help.

I find it a bit ironic that someone who uses a .co.uk webmail account
bangs on about this issue. While I use webmail myself, it doesn't
cause me any guilt pangs in this age of (relatively) abundant
bandwidth. In the satellite age, I used a local email address,
which, sadly is no longer available to me.

--
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel