Walu You have clearly chosen to ignore my mention of IATA etc...Let me refresh your memory by repeating the gist of the message below. The airline industry rules and regulations are governed by IATA (International Air Travel Association) and the airlines follow these rules strictly on pain of death. Literally. What governs the Telcos' rules and regulations about the expiry of bundles? Is it in the ITU regulations perhaps? Or the Communications Authority perhaps? These arbitrary ways of dealing with people's hard-earned money need to stop and policymakers and regulators need to step in. Once we know what the rules of the game are then we can make wise wallet decisions. Meanwhile, we continue to suffer bila chuki. Regards *Ali Hussein* Fintech | Digital Transformation Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim LinkedIn: Ali's Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 7:11 PM Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ali
what of the 'air-ticket' analogy?
Would the airlines be acting harshly if they expired your ticket? As in you must use it within a certain timeframe otherwise it becomes null and void...aka 'hot-air' ;-)
walu
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 02:53:48 PM GMT+3, Ali Hussein via KICTANet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Boss. Wrong analogy. I pay my rent for the month. I don't expect my landlord to tell me my rent has expired before the end of the month!
As for operating costs, please plan ahead and cost it accordingly. Your lack of planning or understanding of your operating costs should not be the reason you become unfair to me.
I don't understand why the Telco industry thinks that if they use jargon we'll all be awed and be ok with it. This is 2022! We are not awed. We are asking the right questions. And it seems the Legislators are too. Time to review this archaic rule.
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 2:26 PM Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Chairman @Ali Hussein <ahussein@kictanet.or.ke> even house rent is not perpetual to guarantee engagement between the landlord and tenant, expiry ensures that engagement between the service providers and the customer is maintained. Operating costs are also elastic.
Regards
On Wed, 30 Nov 2022, 2:11 pm Ali Hussein, <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
@Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> I vehemently disagree.
This is absolutely insane. No argument can deter me from my conviction that this is wrong. Once bought there should be no expiry date.
@Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>, @Walubengo, and all you proponents of this expiry manenos. Let me ask you this - What exactly is the issue here? Why do telcos want to expire our bundles when we have paid for them? What are the technical limitations here? Or financial? Please explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old.
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:34 PM Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I agree with @John Walubengo <jwalubengo@kictanet.or.ke>. Sustainability is a key issue for any infrastructure or application service provider. I guess it is a component of digital literacy that end users should be made aware of continually.
Best Regards
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 8:48 AM David Indeje via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Should Internet Data Bundles Expire? This week’s article by Mr John Walubengo reviews the issues from the customers’, mobile operators, and regulatory (and legal) points of view. https://bit.ly/3ONagcU
On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:22 AM Ali Hussein via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Victor
Thanks for sharing this. This is what happens when we lack a clear policy on Net Neutrality and the usage in general. What the lawmakers are doing is what we in Kiswahili call 'kutapatapa' or in English to be all over the place.
Let this be something that we as an industry take up with the lawmakers and work with them to come up with solid policies to address this issue.
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On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 4:40 PM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Parliament will probe telecommunications firms for imposing expiry dates on data bundles, airtime and loyalty programmes such as Safaricom’s Bonga Points, setting the stage for a fresh battle between the lawmakers and the operators.
The National Assembly’s committee on Communications, Information and Innovation says it will also inquire into the widespread Internet speed throttling practice by internet service providers (ISPs).
*Read more: * https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/mps-open-probe-on-data-expiry...
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