[kictanet] Re: AFRNIC is Currently on its Deathbed!!

20 Mar 2023

      Hopefully much of AFRINICs work can move online.  This would
significantly reduce participation cost (both time and money).  IETF
does well for this - participation of companies such as Huawei in this
has been of very high quality.  Some of the behavior in online AFRINIC
meetings and mailing lists has been very disappointing.  Many of the
governments are elected, but the citizens probably do not know enough to
hold them to account and/or have more immediate concerns.

From https://stats.afrinic.net/member/ Kenya has 160 Afrinic members,
South Africa 662, Nigeria 234, Ghana 93 and Egypt 74.  These are the
countries likely to exert most pressure to get things resolved.

If control moves out, we may end up in one of the situations described at:
https://archive.psg.com/150613.on-technocolonialism.html

On 3/20/23 14:51, Ali Hussein via KICTANet wrote:
...
George
You are on point. What surprises me more than anything else is the
silence of ALL AFRICAN GOVERNMENTS in the unfolding event. A Chinese
National, hiding behind a Seychelles based company employing Africans is
behind this fiasco. 
I have just one question for all of us - What is wrong with us? Is there
a more valuable resource today than IP Addresses? This article by John
Walubengo should make us all sit and pay attention.
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:33 PM George Morara Nyabuga via KICTANet
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I had not finished typing ... my apologies.
... I hope AFRINIC survives and continues to serve Africans because
    the resources belong to Africans. The worst case scenario is that it
    is taken over by another RIR which means the resources will not be
    managed by Africans for Africans. It will also perhaps demonstrate
    our inability to take care and safeguard our resources.
----
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:29 PM George Morara Nyabuga
    <gnyabuga@uonbi.ac.ke <mailto:gnyabuga@uonbi.ac.ke>> wrote:
I worked at AFRINIC and I should say the problem started when
        the company reclaimed some IPV4 resources held by some Asian
        company with deep pockets. The Asian company has employed all
        sorts of tactics, including of course going to court, to
        challenge the decision which has frustrated the work of AFRINIC.
        It is such a sad state of affairs. I hope AFRINIC 
----
        Prof. George Nyabuga
        Department of Journalism & Mass Communication
        Faculty of Social Sciences
        University of Nairobi
        Education Building
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:17 PM Benson Muite via KICTANet
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This is quite sad.  Courts should generally be a last
            resort.  Locally
            funded community driven organizations seem to be difficult
            to develop in
            Africa, many are quite weak. Perhaps documenting good
            examples of strong
            organizations (ideally in Africa, but also other parts of
            the world
            where income is not high) is a good starting point. AFRINIC
            seems to
            have a lot of infighting, and long term participation
            requires financial
            resources that usually only large companies or governments
            can provide.
            Much of the participation is driven by telecommunication
            companies,
            which is different from other parts of the world.  Part of
            the problem
            may be that not enough discussion is open and subject to
            external
            inspection.  This allows creation of community norms and
            enables easy
            compliance.  Maybe it is worth comparing with LACNIC? 
            Should KICTANET
            and other organizations participate? The communications
            authority does
            not seem to play an active role, but perhaps should.
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